Re: visual perception issues optomitrist's reccomendations vs. opthalmologist's

January 17, 2008

Hi

I just wanted to let you know that we took Madison to a pediatric

opthalmologist in Atlanta, and she adamantly stated that visual

tracking/exercises were pseudoscience and would not endorse any of the NACD

program on the vision stuff. She wants to do surgery. I am so torn as a

pediatric optomotrist recommended vt and that is less invasive, so I prefer to

go that route.The consensus (NACD included ) is vt exercises.

It seems to me, that professionals recommend their specialty, so if you go to

surgeon, they are going to recommend surgery. BTW, I asked her staff 3 x, 2x in

writing if she did vt and could evaluate her for such as the county was paying

for the testing. They assured me 3x that the did evaluate for vt. Just wanted

to give you heads up on this.

best of luck.

sharon

bigcheech91 <bigcheech91@...> wrote:

What are you referring to when you say " visual perception issues " ? We

are considering taking to a pediatric opthamologist because

NACD says he has " mixed visual dominance " . Part of our new program is

occlusion of the left eye for four hours a day. (We haven't started

yet, as we are waiting for a shipment of clings to accomplish this

goal.)

in NJ

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> Has anyone noticed/remediated visual perception issues in their

> schoolager apraxic child?

> Thanks

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January 17, 2008

The vision stuff I hear from NACD does concern me...as would surgery.

I am interested in the replies.

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January 17, 2008

I am always so frustrated by this " Battle of the Experts " that we

have to weed through. Anybody doing NACD and/or DAN biomedical

interventions like we are is used to dealing with it, but that

doesn't make it less annoying. I like our OT and she often has good

information, but the reality is that (a.) I have seen no real

improvement in my youngest son since beginning therapy and (b.) She

isn't always the most well-informed on the alternatives. (e.g. The

McCarthy book was " eye-opening " to her, despite my discussing

these same interventions with her, on and off, for over two years!)

She has recommended a local pediatric optho., but I am a little wary

of following her recommendation. And from your experience, I can see

that these practices aren't always forthcoming about their biases.

Thanks for the heads-up!

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> > schoolager apraxic child?

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January 17, 2008

Janice,

Bob said the same thing and dr weeks said that the window was neurologic not

age based and she thought that she had not passed that window. To be honest the

first ped othalmologist we took her to said not to do a thing for her eyes that

her spacing was differnt and not to worry. We thought other issues were there

as she would not look at you at times when you siad hi. She is not autistic, so

it was definately a muscle tone thing and she can pick a piece of dirt off of an

oriental rug from 20 feet away (even though she is not looking at it). I have

20/10 vision and could not pick upt he dirt from the patterened rug, so we knew

the issue was not acuity.

It seems we have 4 different opinions and obviously the least invasive seems

the most desired, but if there is a windwo, we don't want to delay either. not

sure what we are gong to do, most likely, both.

sharon

Janice <jscott@...> wrote:

Sharon,

My next door neighbor's boy had the surgery but it did not work. He still has

the strabismus.... painful surgery for zero gains. I also understand that the

age of the child is a huge factor in the surgery success rates. It is indeed a

difficult decision since there is a 'time limit' for success.

I did the patching via a Opthemologist when I was a kid for a lazy eye and it

was successful.

On a side point.... Of course, it is the same child who is now on ritalin for

life and is becoming weirder by the day. I can't stand it. I have known this boy

since he was 4 and he is just getting worse and worse with each passing year. He

used to be Mark's best friend but the ritalin has just made him so inflexible,

adament and just plain weird. He seems semi-psychotic almost and very OCD in his

behaviour. I drive him to school 3 days a week and want to cry at how far down

he has dropped since being on the drugs. Mark was considered much further

affected and behind but not any more. Mark rarely plays with him any more

outside of school because he has become so extreme in his temperment.... That

ritalin is really aweful stuff. Yes, he can focus at school, but at what cost?

YIKES!

Sorry..... I digress.

Janice

Mother of Mark, 13

[sPAM]Re: [ ] Re: visual perception issues

optomitrist's reccomendations vs. opthalmologist's

Hi

I just wanted to let you know that we took Madison to a pediatric opthalmologist

in Atlanta, and she adamantly stated that visual tracking/exercises were

pseudoscience and would not endorse any of the NACD program on the vision stuff.

She wants to do surgery. I am so torn as a pediatric optomotrist recommended vt

and that is less invasive, so I prefer to go that route.The consensus (NACD

included ) is vt exercises.

It seems to me, that professionals recommend their specialty, so if you go to

surgeon, they are going to recommend surgery. BTW, I asked her staff 3 x, 2x in

writing if she did vt and could evaluate her for such as the county was paying

for the testing. They assured me 3x that the did evaluate for vt. Just wanted to

give you heads up on this.

best of luck.

sharon

bigcheech91 <bigcheech91@...> wrote:

What are you referring to when you say " visual perception issues " ? We

are considering taking to a pediatric opthamologist because

NACD says he has " mixed visual dominance " . Part of our new program is

occlusion of the left eye for four hours a day. (We haven't started

yet, as we are waiting for a shipment of clings to accomplish this

goal.)

in NJ

>

> Has anyone noticed/remediated visual perception issues in their

> schoolager apraxic child?

> Thanks

>

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January 17, 2008

Vent away. You know a lot and we are learning. The smartest and

wierdest woman in law school was on Ritalin. She had her friend

prescribe it to give her an edge in school. She is currently

unemployed like me. She is the high end of something that I am the

low end of I assure you. I am happy though. She is drug toxic and

unhappy. So sad.

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> > Has anyone noticed/remediated visual perception issues in their

> > schoolager apraxic child?

> > Thanks

> >

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January 17, 2008

Sharon,

My next door neighbor's boy had the surgery but it did not work. He still has

the strabismus.... painful surgery for zero gains. I also understand that the

age of the child is a huge factor in the surgery success rates. It is indeed a

difficult decision since there is a 'time limit' for success.

I did the patching via a Opthemologist when I was a kid for a lazy eye and it

was successful.

On a side point.... Of course, it is the same child who is now on ritalin for

life and is becoming weirder by the day. I can't stand it. I have known this

boy since he was 4 and he is just getting worse and worse with each passing

year. He used to be Mark's best friend but the ritalin has just made him so

inflexible, adament and just plain weird. He seems semi-psychotic almost and

very OCD in his behaviour. I drive him to school 3 days a week and want to cry

at how far down he has dropped since being on the drugs. Mark was considered

much further affected and behind but not any more. Mark rarely plays with him

any more outside of school because he has become so extreme in his

temperment.... That ritalin is really aweful stuff. Yes, he can focus at

school, but at what cost? YIKES!