Re: Vitamin K and childhood cancer

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In a message dated 1/17/2008 2:54:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

lizlaw@... writes:

Congratulation and what eye crap are you referring to?

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> Thanks for posting this.. I'm 15 wks preggo with a toxic 5 year old.

I

> am going to have the baby in a hospital, and will certainly NOT allow

> the ridiculous toxic heb b shot but also considering avoiding vit k

and

> perhaps that eye crap too. I'm investigating. perhaps that

forward

> anything else that you come across that you think fits.

I'm assuming the " eye crap " she's referring to is the antibiotic ointment

that they use on newborns at birth. And yes-- it's definitely something to

totally avoid altogether.

It was started in order to help those babies whose mothers were infected

with an STD, and for some reason " they " decided that it was best to just treat

all the babies born.

Really makes no sense at all

now--if you're infected and have an STD, it's worth checking out, but

otherwise, skip the eye gunk at birth

Becky

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Thanks for posting this.. I'm 15 wks preggo with a toxic 5 year old. I

am going to have the baby in a hospital, and will certainly NOT allow

the ridiculous toxic heb b shot but also considering avoiding vit k and

perhaps that eye crap too. I'm investigating... can you please forward

anything else that you come across that you think fits.

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> http://www.whale.to/a/vitk.html

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Congratulation and what eye crap are you referring to?

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> > http://www.whale.to/a/vitk.html

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Gee, let me guess, I bet it is preserved with mercury as the eye

drops I gave the kids were.

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> > Thanks for posting this.. I'm 15 wks preggo with a toxic 5 year

old.

> I

> > am going to have the baby in a hospital, and will certainly NOT

allow

> > the ridiculous toxic heb b shot but also considering avoiding

vit k

> and

> > perhaps that eye crap too. I'm investigating. perhaps that

> forward

> > anything else that you come across that you think fits.

>

>

>

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>

>

> I'm assuming the " eye crap " she's referring to is the antibiotic

ointment

> that they use on newborns at birth. And yes-- it's definitely

something to

> totally avoid altogether.

> It was started in order to help those babies whose mothers were

infected

> with an STD, and for some reason " they " decided that it was best to

just treat

> all the babies born.

> Really makes no sense at all

>

> now--if you're infected and have an STD, it's worth checking out,

but

> otherwise, skip the eye gunk at birth

>

>

> Becky

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>

>

> **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in

shape.

> http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?

NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

>

>

>

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In a message dated 1/17/2008 5:25:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

lizlaw@... writes:

Gee, let me guess, I bet it is preserved with mercury as the eye

drops I gave the kids were.

I'd have to go back and check with all of my information back when I did my

research with this-- i'm not sure.

I know that one of the larger results that came from using these on babies

were clogged tear ducts and major eye infections.

Becky

**************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in shape.

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lol eye crap - yes, exactly thanks for decoding my poor choice of

words.

I'm really getting nervous about having baby in hospital because I

just don't want to have to engage in the why's I am forbidding these

common place infant maneauvres.

I can hear/see it now... major old lady granola cruncher - room 5.

eye roll, eye roll.

Any advise on how to handle this birth - sounds like some of you

have been there already.

Another one of my " requests " is going to be that they do not take the

baby out of my sight for any reason. Is this unreasonable? Assuming

I have a healthy one - the whole process is done in a birthing room.

With my son, they took him away to do the hep b, and the vit k, but

the eye ointment was done immediately. I recall they took him away

for other unknown reasons and brought him back.

I really don't want my baby to ever be out of my sight.

I can be big bad and bold when need be but, when faced with all that

goes with birthing / a la pain / I can just see myself caving in so

as to not have to deal with conflict.

Anyone? Help!

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> In a message dated 1/17/2008 5:25:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> lizlaw@... writes:

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> Gee, let me guess, I bet it is preserved with mercury as the eye

> drops I gave the kids were.

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> I'd have to go back and check with all of my information back when

I did my

> research with this-- i'm not sure.

> I know that one of the larger results that came from using these

on babies

> were clogged tear ducts and major eye infections.

>

> Becky

>

>

>

> **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in

shape.

> http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?

NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

>

>

>

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1) Birth Plan

2) Be the crazy lady if needed

3) Have someone there to back you up.

4) Recognize what you have already done with your older child.

Surely, hormones and all, you can't possibly care at this point what

anyone thinks. If these are things you believe are necessary to keep

your baby safe it is no one's business but yours.

I commend you. I want a third baby. Hubby is still bending his mind

around the deal with the other two so it is a nogo. Plus I am old,

metallic, yeasty, gutimpaired and God knows what ekse. Still, you are

brave and you can do this.

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> > In a message dated 1/17/2008 5:25:05 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> > lizlaw@ writes:

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> > Gee, let me guess, I bet it is preserved with mercury as the eye

> > drops I gave the kids were.

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> > I'd have to go back and check with all of my information back

when

> I did my

> > research with this-- i'm not sure.

> > I know that one of the larger results that came from using these

> on babies

> > were clogged tear ducts and major eye infections.

> >

> > Becky

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> >

> >

> > **************Start the year off right. Easy ways to stay in

> shape.

> > http://body.aol.com/fitness/winter-exercise?

> NCID=aolcmp00300000002489

> >

> >

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If y ou're nervous about a hospital birth-- the best thing you can do is to

make a BIRTH PLAN for this birth.

They are very simple and you can even google some sample birth plans and

then cater it to what you are wanting.

I've done this with the last 2 babies and it's worked QUITE well. They

actually prefer knowing exactly what is to be done and what is NOT to be done--

and the hospital staff we've always dealt with has LIKED the fact that it's all

right there in front of them for no questions to wonder.

One biggie though-- is present your OB/GYN with the birth plan BEFORE the

actual birth-- discuss all of it with him in detail (not the why's-- that's

not important and isn't any of his business) and tell him that this is your

primary plan for birth-- and also recognize that if an emergency pops up-- your

husband will be the one to decide what to do on the OB's recommendations. etc

DON'T give the details of WHY on the birth plan-- just be simple and keep it

easy to read

bek

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