Guest guest Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Has anyone else had this experience and can anyone shed any light on why eating cheese might do this. I can tolerate the scd yoghurt (with cows milk) really well so thought I might be OK with cheese.Not sure about the drunk part, but I tolerate SCD yogurt fine and can definitely not tolerate cheese. I think it probably has something to do with the long fermentation process making the casein easier to digest in the yogurt than in the cheese. Also, my body (and possibly yours) might just accept the dairy better when taken with probiotics. Maybe you could try a probiotic capsule with your cheese. Or try a different cheese. Peace =)Alyssa 15 yoUC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 Has anyone else had this experience and can anyone shed any light on why eating cheese might do this. I can tolerate the scd yoghurt (with cows milk) really well so thought I might be OK with cheese.Not sure about the drunk part, but I tolerate SCD yogurt fine and can definitely not tolerate cheese. I think it probably has something to do with the long fermentation process making the casein easier to digest in the yogurt than in the cheese. Also, my body (and possibly yours) might just accept the dairy better when taken with probiotics. Maybe you could try a probiotic capsule with your cheese. Or try a different cheese. Peace =)Alyssa 15 yoUC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 I don't feel that way when eating cheese, but I sure had withdrawal symptoms when I stopped eating it. The casein in cheese has small amount of opiates in it that affect some people. Here's a longer explanation. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 I don't feel that way when eating cheese, but I sure had withdrawal symptoms when I stopped eating it. The casein in cheese has small amount of opiates in it that affect some people. Here's a longer explanation. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 At 08:43 PM 2/17/2010, you wrote: I don't feel that way when eating cheese, but I sure had withdrawal symptoms when I stopped eating it. The casein in cheese has small amount of opiates in it that affect some people. Here's a longer explanation. Sorry, I don't buy their explanation -- especially since they're completely wrong about fats and their relation to high cholesterol. Yes, the opiates issue is one of the reasons for it being theorized that GF/CF is good for children on the autism spectrum, but funnily enough, SCD kids for the most part can add back goat yogurt and goat cheeses, and some can even handle cow yogurt and cow cheese after their guts heal. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2010 Report Share Posted February 17, 2010 At 08:43 PM 2/17/2010, you wrote: I don't feel that way when eating cheese, but I sure had withdrawal symptoms when I stopped eating it. The casein in cheese has small amount of opiates in it that affect some people. Here's a longer explanation. Sorry, I don't buy their explanation -- especially since they're completely wrong about fats and their relation to high cholesterol. Yes, the opiates issue is one of the reasons for it being theorized that GF/CF is good for children on the autism spectrum, but funnily enough, SCD kids for the most part can add back goat yogurt and goat cheeses, and some can even handle cow yogurt and cow cheese after their guts heal. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 At 08:43 PM 2/17/2010, you wrote:I don't feel that way when eating cheese, but I sure had withdrawal symptoms when I stopped eating it. The casein in cheese has small amount of opiates in it that affect some people. Here's a longer explanation.Sorry, I don't buy their explanation -- especially since they're completely wrong about fats and their relation to high cholesterol.Yes, the opiates issue is one of the reasons for it being theorized that GF/CF is good for children on the autism spectrum, Why? What are opiates supposed to do to ASD kids? but funnily enough, SCD kids for the most part can add back goat yogurt and goat cheeses, and some can even handle cow yogurt and cow cheese after their guts heal.These seem like different issues to me. I can handle cheese - but I am absolutely, thoroughly addicted to it - almost asaddicted as coffee - and we know how addictive that is. This makes perfect sense to me now - why cheese is harder to give up thenice cream or whipped cream. (though I am not necessarily buying theconspiracy to make people extra addicted through whatever the method is.)Also the issue of opiates in dairy/cheese is the reason that Dr. McCandlessadvises no dairy for people on LDN (because those opiates can block the LDN, orcancel out its effect) - though she has lately taken into consideration that people on SCD do well with SCD yogurt. Mara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 At 08:43 PM 2/17/2010, you wrote:I don't feel that way when eating cheese, but I sure had withdrawal symptoms when I stopped eating it. The casein in cheese has small amount of opiates in it that affect some people. Here's a longer explanation.Sorry, I don't buy their explanation -- especially since they're completely wrong about fats and their relation to high cholesterol.Yes, the opiates issue is one of the reasons for it being theorized that GF/CF is good for children on the autism spectrum, Why? What are opiates supposed to do to ASD kids? but funnily enough, SCD kids for the most part can add back goat yogurt and goat cheeses, and some can even handle cow yogurt and cow cheese after their guts heal.These seem like different issues to me. I can handle cheese - but I am absolutely, thoroughly addicted to it - almost asaddicted as coffee - and we know how addictive that is. This makes perfect sense to me now - why cheese is harder to give up thenice cream or whipped cream. (though I am not necessarily buying theconspiracy to make people extra addicted through whatever the method is.)Also the issue of opiates in dairy/cheese is the reason that Dr. McCandlessadvises no dairy for people on LDN (because those opiates can block the LDN, orcancel out its effect) - though she has lately taken into consideration that people on SCD do well with SCD yogurt. Mara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 ::laughs:: Maybe THAT'S why I still crave it like crazy even though I haven't had any since Thanksgiving! Mmm...cheese. Stacey The casein in cheese has small amount of opiates > in it that affect some people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2010 Report Share Posted February 18, 2010 ::laughs:: Maybe THAT'S why I still crave it like crazy even though I haven't had any since Thanksgiving! Mmm...cheese. Stacey The casein in cheese has small amount of opiates > in it that affect some people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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