Re: Doing anti-yeast things while in flair with UC

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> My next question is about lemon juice. I added lemon juice to my diet

yesterday because it is recommended by everyone to kill off yeast, but I am

confused about it. For one, I am in a lot more pain today and worse symptoms (I

also added cayenne pepper to be more aggressive - won't do that again). Not sure

if it's cayenne or lemon juice. I read that lemon juice makes the guts acidic,

and yeasts dont' like that, but I have also read that yeasts love swimming in

their own waste, which is acidic, so you want to alkalinize the body to get rid

of them. Which is it? And have people with bleeding bled worse when acids are

introduced? Or is this part of " symptoms getting worse at first " when doing an

antiyeast diet?

>

lemon and lime and orange are acidic but alkalinize in the body.

Mara

[Guest guest]

> My next question is about lemon juice. I added lemon juice to my diet

yesterday because it is recommended by everyone to kill off yeast, but I am

confused about it. For one, I am in a lot more pain today and worse symptoms (I

also added cayenne pepper to be more aggressive - won't do that again). Not sure

if it's cayenne or lemon juice. I read that lemon juice makes the guts acidic,

and yeasts dont' like that, but I have also read that yeasts love swimming in

their own waste, which is acidic, so you want to alkalinize the body to get rid

of them. Which is it? And have people with bleeding bled worse when acids are

introduced? Or is this part of " symptoms getting worse at first " when doing an

antiyeast diet?

>

lemon and lime and orange are acidic but alkalinize in the body.

Mara

[Guest guest]

you can use coconut oil. I get mine from tropicaltraditions.com I try to take spoonfull every once in a while straight from the jar, or you can use it in recipes/cooking instead of butter.Among the most potent natural yeast-fighting substances are lauric acid and caprylic acid, both derived from coconut oil.

All medium chain fatty acids found in coconut oil kill yeast, viruses and bacteria. Also, oil of oregano.I buy mine from the grocery store, or you can find it online or at health food stores. Make sure it's standardized to have a specific concentration of carvacrol in it. I buy the liquid because it's cheaper, and take a shot glass full of water, drop a few drops of oil on top and shoot it like a shot.Sorry I can't help with any of the other questions. Make sure you post about LDN, i'm going to start that soon too after these roids.-UC - 1+ yearsSCD - 8 months 100% strict and 4 months restricted diet.Asacol - 12 pills a day Prednisone 40mg entocort With vit E mixed inBack to intro/stage 1 for now.To: BTVC-SCD From: evenstrangerquark@...Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 02:24:24 +0000Subject: Doing anti-yeast things while in flair with UC

Hi all,

I feel like I'm stuck in a bit of a pickle. I definitely have yeast overgrowth (I have thrush, and many other symptoms but have never had any tests done). It gets worse with higher doses of prednisone, and I am on prednisone currently at 10mg. I know that in order to start LDN, which I am really looking forward to, I need to get my yeast under control. I also know that when they are going nuts in my guts, they are burrowing in to take footholds, which in my mind might be causing more bleeding, so they really need to go!

I have eliminated all honey, dairy, fermented food, peanut butter, and I am left with beef, fish, chicken, chicken liver when my guts are happy, zucchini, and avocado, pear and blueberries (so mostly fruit carbs). I also eat some onion and garlic on food every other day to fight the yeast. My first question is, on SCD, what veggies do people tolerate best when they have yeast overgrowths? I know everyone is different, but I figure my ecology might be closer to someone with both fungal and bacterial overgrowth. I want to be eating more veggies and less fruits overall if possible.

My next question is about lemon juice. I added lemon juice to my diet yesterday because it is recommended by everyone to kill off yeast, but I am confused about it. For one, I am in a lot more pain today and worse symptoms (I also added cayenne pepper to be more aggressive - won't do that again). Not sure if it's cayenne or lemon juice. I read that lemon juice makes the guts acidic, and yeasts dont' like that, but I have also read that yeasts love swimming in their own waste, which is acidic, so you want to alkalinize the body to get rid of them. Which is it? And have people with bleeding bled worse when acids are introduced? Or is this part of "symptoms getting worse at first" when doing an antiyeast diet?

If anyone has any tricks up their sleeves for combating yeast while on prednisone in order to stop a flair, or just doing anti-yeast while on SCD, I would love to hear them. I've read the files here, but feel like any extra knowledge would really help right now. I have to do this in order to go down on prednisone, in order to fight the yeasts better, in order to get on LDN in order to stop flairs. <scratching head>

Thanks everyone! I just have to say I am really grateful I joined this group. I feel like I complain a lot and have too many questions, but it is sooo helpful to draw from all your experiences while trying to figure all this stuff out. Thank you,

Kat

27

UC since June 09

SCD since Feb 10

prednisone 10mg, acyclovir, multivitamin

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[Guest guest]

you can use coconut oil. I get mine from tropicaltraditions.com I try to take spoonfull every once in a while straight from the jar, or you can use it in recipes/cooking instead of butter.Among the most potent natural yeast-fighting substances are lauric acid and caprylic acid, both derived from coconut oil.

All medium chain fatty acids found in coconut oil kill yeast, viruses and bacteria. Also, oil of oregano.I buy mine from the grocery store, or you can find it online or at health food stores. Make sure it's standardized to have a specific concentration of carvacrol in it. I buy the liquid because it's cheaper, and take a shot glass full of water, drop a few drops of oil on top and shoot it like a shot.Sorry I can't help with any of the other questions. Make sure you post about LDN, i'm going to start that soon too after these roids.-UC - 1+ yearsSCD - 8 months 100% strict and 4 months restricted diet.Asacol - 12 pills a day Prednisone 40mg entocort With vit E mixed inBack to intro/stage 1 for now.To: BTVC-SCD From: evenstrangerquark@...Date: Wed, 24 Mar 2010 02:24:24 +0000Subject: Doing anti-yeast things while in flair with UC

Hi all,

I feel like I'm stuck in a bit of a pickle. I definitely have yeast overgrowth (I have thrush, and many other symptoms but have never had any tests done). It gets worse with higher doses of prednisone, and I am on prednisone currently at 10mg. I know that in order to start LDN, which I am really looking forward to, I need to get my yeast under control. I also know that when they are going nuts in my guts, they are burrowing in to take footholds, which in my mind might be causing more bleeding, so they really need to go!

I have eliminated all honey, dairy, fermented food, peanut butter, and I am left with beef, fish, chicken, chicken liver when my guts are happy, zucchini, and avocado, pear and blueberries (so mostly fruit carbs). I also eat some onion and garlic on food every other day to fight the yeast. My first question is, on SCD, what veggies do people tolerate best when they have yeast overgrowths? I know everyone is different, but I figure my ecology might be closer to someone with both fungal and bacterial overgrowth. I want to be eating more veggies and less fruits overall if possible.

My next question is about lemon juice. I added lemon juice to my diet yesterday because it is recommended by everyone to kill off yeast, but I am confused about it. For one, I am in a lot more pain today and worse symptoms (I also added cayenne pepper to be more aggressive - won't do that again). Not sure if it's cayenne or lemon juice. I read that lemon juice makes the guts acidic, and yeasts dont' like that, but I have also read that yeasts love swimming in their own waste, which is acidic, so you want to alkalinize the body to get rid of them. Which is it? And have people with bleeding bled worse when acids are introduced? Or is this part of "symptoms getting worse at first" when doing an antiyeast diet?

If anyone has any tricks up their sleeves for combating yeast while on prednisone in order to stop a flair, or just doing anti-yeast while on SCD, I would love to hear them. I've read the files here, but feel like any extra knowledge would really help right now. I have to do this in order to go down on prednisone, in order to fight the yeasts better, in order to get on LDN in order to stop flairs. <scratching head>

Thanks everyone! I just have to say I am really grateful I joined this group. I feel like I complain a lot and have too many questions, but it is sooo helpful to draw from all your experiences while trying to figure all this stuff out. Thank you,

Kat

27

UC since June 09

SCD since Feb 10

prednisone 10mg, acyclovir, multivitamin

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[Guest guest]

> lemon and lime and orange are acidic but alkalinize in the body.

>

> Mara

>

Thanks Mara. Do you know if Vitamin C is the same way? I stopped taking it when

my naturopath was concerned about the acidity of it. Somehow I can't find this

stuff online - I need to build my googling skills!

Kat

[Guest guest]

> lemon and lime and orange are acidic but alkalinize in the body.

>

> Mara

>

Thanks Mara. Do you know if Vitamin C is the same way? I stopped taking it when

my naturopath was concerned about the acidity of it. Somehow I can't find this

stuff online - I need to build my googling skills!

Kat