HELP please. Clubfoot+CALCIFICATION during pregnancy.

[Guest guest]

Hello dear parents.

A couple of parents to be in our Israeli clubfoot forum were told that

their baby has Calcification and clubfoot. The Doctors can't say what

the Calcification really suggests and the couple was advised to

consider ending the pregnancy. They are 32 weeks now.

Did any of you experienced Calcification during pregnancy, and is

willing to shear advises?

Thank you, so much.

Idit. Mom to Oshri. Aug 25.03 BL clubfoot.

[Guest guest]

Hello dear parents.

A couple of parents to be in our Israeli clubfoot forum were told that

their baby has Calcification and clubfoot. The Doctors can't say what

the Calcification really suggests and the couple was advised to

consider ending the pregnancy. They are 32 weeks now.

Did any of you experienced Calcification during pregnancy, and is

willing to shear advises?

Thank you, so much.

Idit. Mom to Oshri. Aug 25.03 BL clubfoot.

[Guest guest]

" because this is urgent I'm " jumping the massage again. Thanks. "

>

> Hello dear parents.

> A couple of parents to be in our Israeli clubfoot forum were told

that

> their baby has Calcification and clubfoot. The Doctors can't say

what

> the Calcification really suggests and the couple was advised to

> consider ending the pregnancy. They are 32 weeks now.

> Did any of you experienced Calcification during pregnancy, and is

> willing to shear advises?

>

> Thank you, so much.

>

> Idit. Mom to Oshri. Aug 25.03 BL clubfoot.

[Guest guest]

" because this is urgent I'm " jumping the massage again. Thanks. "

>

> Hello dear parents.

> A couple of parents to be in our Israeli clubfoot forum were told

that

> their baby has Calcification and clubfoot. The Doctors can't say

what

> the Calcification really suggests and the couple was advised to

> consider ending the pregnancy. They are 32 weeks now.

> Did any of you experienced Calcification during pregnancy, and is

> willing to shear advises?

>

> Thank you, so much.

>

> Idit. Mom to Oshri. Aug 25.03 BL clubfoot.

[Guest guest]

what is calcification?

Shook

Retail Operations Manager/Baking Instructor

Vie de France Yamazaki, Inc.

2070 Chain Bridge Rd. Suite 500

Vienna, VA 22182

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x374

fax

[Guest guest]

what is calcification?

Shook

Retail Operations Manager/Baking Instructor

Vie de France Yamazaki, Inc.

2070 Chain Bridge Rd. Suite 500

Vienna, VA 22182

x374

x374

fax

[Guest guest]

Idit, I'm sorry that I missed this the first time that you posted.

During my pregnancy with Owen when I had a routine ultrasound (the

clubfoot was NOT detected!), the doctor detected a calcium deposit in

one of the heart chambers - is this the same thing that you are

talking about? I was told that the calcium deposit wasn't conclusive

but that it was a 'soft marker' for downs syndrome. I was offered an

amnio, which would have been conclusive, but I turned it down.

Instead I did some research on the internet and found that many

doctors argue over the fact of whether or not it actually is a 'soft

marker'. Some doctors argue that the calcium deposit may be present

in 7 out of 10 pregnancies but that only high quality ultrasound

equipment is able to detect them. In our case, I had already had an

early screening for downs syndrome at 11 weeks (which came back

negative) and the maternal syrum testing (at 16 weeks) had come back

normal. Owen was born with clubfoot (a surprise to us) but otherwise

perfectly healthy.

I hope this helps,

Daiga and Owen, 02/04/03

Unilateral LCF, FAB 14/7

> >

> > Hello dear parents.

> > A couple of parents to be in our Israeli clubfoot forum were told

> that

> > their baby has Calcification and clubfoot. The Doctors can't say

> what

> > the Calcification really suggests and the couple was advised to

> > consider ending the pregnancy. They are 32 weeks now.

> > Did any of you experienced Calcification during pregnancy, and is

> > willing to shear advises?

> >

> > Thank you, so much.

> >

> > Idit. Mom to Oshri. Aug 25.03 BL clubfoot.

[Guest guest]

Idit, I'm sorry that I missed this the first time that you posted.

During my pregnancy with Owen when I had a routine ultrasound (the

clubfoot was NOT detected!), the doctor detected a calcium deposit in

one of the heart chambers - is this the same thing that you are

talking about? I was told that the calcium deposit wasn't conclusive

but that it was a 'soft marker' for downs syndrome. I was offered an

amnio, which would have been conclusive, but I turned it down.

Instead I did some research on the internet and found that many

doctors argue over the fact of whether or not it actually is a 'soft

marker'. Some doctors argue that the calcium deposit may be present

in 7 out of 10 pregnancies but that only high quality ultrasound

equipment is able to detect them. In our case, I had already had an

early screening for downs syndrome at 11 weeks (which came back

negative) and the maternal syrum testing (at 16 weeks) had come back

normal. Owen was born with clubfoot (a surprise to us) but otherwise

perfectly healthy.

I hope this helps,

Daiga and Owen, 02/04/03

Unilateral LCF, FAB 14/7

> >

> > Hello dear parents.

> > A couple of parents to be in our Israeli clubfoot forum were told

> that

> > their baby has Calcification and clubfoot. The Doctors can't say

> what

> > the Calcification really suggests and the couple was advised to

> > consider ending the pregnancy. They are 32 weeks now.

> > Did any of you experienced Calcification during pregnancy, and is

> > willing to shear advises?

> >

> > Thank you, so much.

> >

> > Idit. Mom to Oshri. Aug 25.03 BL clubfoot.

[Guest guest]

Hi there

Would like to offer some advice, but I'm afraid that I've never heared of

calcification (is it something to do with build up on the bones) or it's

implications

Sorry! Hope some others can be of some help

--- susan.shook@... wrote:

From: susan.shook@...

Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 06:43:05 -0700

To: nosurgery4clubfoot

Subject: Re: HELP please.

Clubfoot+CALCIFICATION during pregnancy.

what is calcification?

Shook

Retail Operations Manager/Baking Instructor

Vie de France Yamazaki, Inc.

2070 Chain Bridge Rd. Suite 500

Vienna, VA 22182

x374

x374

fax

[Guest guest]

Hi there

Would like to offer some advice, but I'm afraid that I've never heared of

calcification (is it something to do with build up on the bones) or it's

implications

Sorry! Hope some others can be of some help

--- susan.shook@... wrote:

From: susan.shook@...

Date: Thu, 9 Jun 2005 06:43:05 -0700

To: nosurgery4clubfoot

Subject: Re: HELP please.

Clubfoot+CALCIFICATION during pregnancy.

what is calcification?

Shook

Retail Operations Manager/Baking Instructor

Vie de France Yamazaki, Inc.

2070 Chain Bridge Rd. Suite 500

Vienna, VA 22182

x374

x374

fax

[Guest guest]

Idit,

I am not very familiar with fetal Calcification but I do know there

are several different types, arterial and renal are the two main ones

I've heard of. There is also placental calcification but from what

you are saying it is actually affecting the child, not the placenta,

right? From what I know, there are also greatly varying degrees of

calcification but I don't believe there are any links between this and

clubfoot. I can't say what this couple would feel would be the right

thing to do but I personally would not be able to terminate a

pregnancy (especially at 32 weeks) without knowing for sure how this

was going to affect the baby. Would it be possible for them to get a

second opinion? If nothing else another doctor might be able to tell

them more than they've been told so far. Hope this helps some.

> >

> > Hello dear parents.

> > A couple of parents to be in our Israeli clubfoot forum were told

> that

> > their baby has Calcification and clubfoot. The Doctors can't say

> what

> > the Calcification really suggests and the couple was advised to

> > consider ending the pregnancy. They are 32 weeks now.

> > Did any of you experienced Calcification during pregnancy, and is

> > willing to shear advises?

> >

> > Thank you, so much.

> >

> > Idit. Mom to Oshri. Aug 25.03 BL clubfoot.

[Guest guest]

Idit,

I am not very familiar with fetal Calcification but I do know there

are several different types, arterial and renal are the two main ones

I've heard of. There is also placental calcification but from what

you are saying it is actually affecting the child, not the placenta,

right? From what I know, there are also greatly varying degrees of

calcification but I don't believe there are any links between this and

clubfoot. I can't say what this couple would feel would be the right

thing to do but I personally would not be able to terminate a

pregnancy (especially at 32 weeks) without knowing for sure how this

was going to affect the baby. Would it be possible for them to get a

second opinion? If nothing else another doctor might be able to tell

them more than they've been told so far. Hope this helps some.

> >

> > Hello dear parents.

> > A couple of parents to be in our Israeli clubfoot forum were told

> that

> > their baby has Calcification and clubfoot. The Doctors can't say

> what

> > the Calcification really suggests and the couple was advised to

> > consider ending the pregnancy. They are 32 weeks now.

> > Did any of you experienced Calcification during pregnancy, and is

> > willing to shear advises?

> >

> > Thank you, so much.

> >

> > Idit. Mom to Oshri. Aug 25.03 BL clubfoot.

[Guest guest]

,

It is a hardening of different tissues in the body. I understand that

placental calcification is somewhat common, but there are also other

types such as renal and arterial which can affect the fetus.

> what is calcification?

>

>

>

> Shook

> Retail Operations Manager/Baking Instructor

> Vie de France Yamazaki, Inc.

> 2070 Chain Bridge Rd. Suite 500

> Vienna, VA 22182

> x374

> x374

> fax

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

It is a hardening of different tissues in the body. I understand that

placental calcification is somewhat common, but there are also other

types such as renal and arterial which can affect the fetus.

> what is calcification?

>

>

>

> Shook

> Retail Operations Manager/Baking Instructor

> Vie de France Yamazaki, Inc.

> 2070 Chain Bridge Rd. Suite 500

> Vienna, VA 22182

> x374

> x374

> fax

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you . I wonder why I have never heard of it before. Is that

a routine test they do during pregnancy?

Shook

Retail Operations Manager/Baking Instructor

Vie de France Yamazaki, Inc.

2070 Chain Bridge Rd. Suite 500

Vienna, VA 22182

x374

x374

fax

[Guest guest]

Thank you . I wonder why I have never heard of it before. Is that

a routine test they do during pregnancy?

Shook

Retail Operations Manager/Baking Instructor

Vie de France Yamazaki, Inc.

2070 Chain Bridge Rd. Suite 500

Vienna, VA 22182

x374

x374

fax

[Guest guest]

That I am not sure of, I think it is detected on the

ultrasound and then further testing is done but again

I am not totally familiar with it.

allison

--- susan.shook@... wrote:

> Thank you . I wonder why I have never heard

> of it before. Is that

> a routine test they do during pregnancy?

>

>

>

> Shook

> Retail Operations Manager/Baking Instructor

> Vie de France Yamazaki, Inc.

> 2070 Chain Bridge Rd. Suite 500

> Vienna, VA 22182

> x374

> x374

> fax

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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That I am not sure of, I think it is detected on the

ultrasound and then further testing is done but again

I am not totally familiar with it.

allison

--- susan.shook@... wrote:

> Thank you . I wonder why I have never heard

> of it before. Is that

> a routine test they do during pregnancy?

>

>

>

> Shook

> Retail Operations Manager/Baking Instructor

> Vie de France Yamazaki, Inc.

> 2070 Chain Bridge Rd. Suite 500

> Vienna, VA 22182

> x374

> x374

> fax

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

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TO WHOM IT CONCERNS...I was told the same thing please email me and we

can talk but I went to a special teaching hospital in Alabama and it

was just clubbed feet but I too thought I was going to have to end my

pregnancy.

>

> Hello dear parents.

> A couple of parents to be in our Israeli clubfoot forum were told

that

> their baby has Calcification and clubfoot. The Doctors can't say

what

> the Calcification really suggests and the couple was advised to

> consider ending the pregnancy. They are 32 weeks now.

> Did any of you experienced Calcification during pregnancy, and is

> willing to shear advises?

>

> Thank you, so much.

>

> Idit. Mom to Oshri. Aug 25.03 BL clubfoot.

[Guest guest]

TO WHOM IT CONCERNS...I was told the same thing please email me and we

can talk but I went to a special teaching hospital in Alabama and it

was just clubbed feet but I too thought I was going to have to end my

pregnancy.

>

> Hello dear parents.

> A couple of parents to be in our Israeli clubfoot forum were told

that

> their baby has Calcification and clubfoot. The Doctors can't say

what

> the Calcification really suggests and the couple was advised to

> consider ending the pregnancy. They are 32 weeks now.

> Did any of you experienced Calcification during pregnancy, and is

> willing to shear advises?

>

> Thank you, so much.

>

> Idit. Mom to Oshri. Aug 25.03 BL clubfoot.

[Guest guest]

thanks, i past your message to the couple.

hugs

idit

> >

> > Hello dear parents.

> > A couple of parents to be in our Israeli clubfoot forum were

told

> that

> > their baby has Calcification and clubfoot. The Doctors can't say

> what

> > the Calcification really suggests and the couple was advised to

> > consider ending the pregnancy. They are 32 weeks now.

> > Did any of you experienced Calcification during pregnancy, and

is

> > willing to shear advises?

> >

> > Thank you, so much.

> >

> > Idit. Mom to Oshri. Aug 25.03 BL clubfoot.

[Guest guest]

thanks, i past your message to the couple.

hugs

idit

> >

> > Hello dear parents.

> > A couple of parents to be in our Israeli clubfoot forum were

told

> that

> > their baby has Calcification and clubfoot. The Doctors can't say

> what

> > the Calcification really suggests and the couple was advised to

> > consider ending the pregnancy. They are 32 weeks now.

> > Did any of you experienced Calcification during pregnancy, and

is

> > willing to shear advises?

> >

> > Thank you, so much.

> >

> > Idit. Mom to Oshri. Aug 25.03 BL clubfoot.

[Guest guest]

Idit,

Here's an article I just found, thought it may help...It was at:

http://www.greenjournal.org/cgi/content/abstract/86/5/739

Prenatal diagnosis of liver calcifications

M Bronshtein and S Blazer

OBJECTIVE: To report our experience with the prenatal diagnosis of

hepatic calcification. METHODS: Routine ultrasonography was done in

24,600 consecutive pregnancies of 14-26 weeks' gestation. Detailed

sonographic studies, amniocenteses, and chromosomal, bacteriologic,

virologic, and serologic investigations were performed in each case

with calcifications. RESULTS: Hepatic calcifications were diagnosed

in 14 fetuses--an incidence of one in 1750--at gestational ages of

15-26 weeks. Twelve fetuses had one or two calcified foci, one fetus

had four scattered foci, and one had diffuse calcification of the

liver as well as peritoneal and intestinal calcifications. Three

fetuses (21%) had associated severe malformations: two with trisomy

18 and one with dwarfism and hydronephrosis; these fetuses were

aborted. One fetus with polyhydramnios and calcifications within the

bowel died in utero; an autopsy was not allowed, but the external

examination was normal. No case had serologic evidence of recent

infection with Toxoplasma, rubella virus, cytomegalovirus, herpes

simplex virus, or syphilis. Amniotic fluid (and neonatal urine where

applicable) cultures for cytomegalovirus were negative. Ten fetuses

were normal at birth, and nine of them were followed-up for a period

of 4 months to 4.5 years. All were found to be healthy and thriving

children. CONCLUSION: Our experience indicates that fetal hepatic

calcification is not a rare ultrasonographic finding, and each fetus

with such calcifications should be thoroughly evaluated for

malformations, chromosomal anomalies, and viral infection. If the

work-up is negative, subsequent neonatal outcome carries a good

prognosis.

> > >

> > > Hello dear parents.

> > > A couple of parents to be in our Israeli clubfoot forum were

> told

> > that

> > > their baby has Calcification and clubfoot. The Doctors can't

say

> > what

> > > the Calcification really suggests and the couple was advised

to

> > > consider ending the pregnancy. They are 32 weeks now.

> > > Did any of you experienced Calcification during pregnancy, and

> is

> > > willing to shear advises?

> > >

> > > Thank you, so much.

> > >

> > > Idit. Mom to Oshri. Aug 25.03 BL clubfoot.

[Guest guest]

Idit,

Here's an article I just found, thought it may help...It was at:

http://www.greenjournal.org/cgi/content/abstract/86/5/739

Prenatal diagnosis of liver calcifications

M Bronshtein and S Blazer

OBJECTIVE: To report our experience with the prenatal diagnosis of

hepatic calcification. METHODS: Routine ultrasonography was done in

24,600 consecutive pregnancies of 14-26 weeks' gestation. Detailed

sonographic studies, amniocenteses, and chromosomal, bacteriologic,

virologic, and serologic investigations were performed in each case

with calcifications. RESULTS: Hepatic calcifications were diagnosed

in 14 fetuses--an incidence of one in 1750--at gestational ages of

15-26 weeks. Twelve fetuses had one or two calcified foci, one fetus

had four scattered foci, and one had diffuse calcification of the

liver as well as peritoneal and intestinal calcifications. Three

fetuses (21%) had associated severe malformations: two with trisomy

18 and one with dwarfism and hydronephrosis; these fetuses were

aborted. One fetus with polyhydramnios and calcifications within the

bowel died in utero; an autopsy was not allowed, but the external

examination was normal. No case had serologic evidence of recent

infection with Toxoplasma, rubella virus, cytomegalovirus, herpes

simplex virus, or syphilis. Amniotic fluid (and neonatal urine where

applicable) cultures for cytomegalovirus were negative. Ten fetuses

were normal at birth, and nine of them were followed-up for a period

of 4 months to 4.5 years. All were found to be healthy and thriving

children. CONCLUSION: Our experience indicates that fetal hepatic

calcification is not a rare ultrasonographic finding, and each fetus

with such calcifications should be thoroughly evaluated for

malformations, chromosomal anomalies, and viral infection. If the

work-up is negative, subsequent neonatal outcome carries a good

prognosis.

> > >

> > > Hello dear parents.

> > > A couple of parents to be in our Israeli clubfoot forum were

> told

> > that

> > > their baby has Calcification and clubfoot. The Doctors can't

say

> > what

> > > the Calcification really suggests and the couple was advised

to

> > > consider ending the pregnancy. They are 32 weeks now.

> > > Did any of you experienced Calcification during pregnancy, and

> is

> > > willing to shear advises?

> > >

> > > Thank you, so much.

> > >

> > > Idit. Mom to Oshri. Aug 25.03 BL clubfoot.

[Guest guest]

thanks a lot, we too found it last week. i hope it helped the

parents.

idit

> Idit,

> Here's an article I just found, thought it may help...It was at:

> http://www.greenjournal.org/cgi/content/abstract/86/5/739

>

> Prenatal diagnosis of liver calcifications

> M Bronshtein and S Blazer

>

>

> OBJECTIVE: To report our experience with the prenatal diagnosis of

> hepatic calcification. METHODS: Routine ultrasonography was done

in

> 24,600 consecutive pregnancies of 14-26 weeks' gestation. Detailed

> sonographic studies, amniocenteses, and chromosomal,

bacteriologic,

> virologic, and serologic investigations were performed in each

case

> with calcifications. RESULTS: Hepatic calcifications were

diagnosed

> in 14 fetuses--an incidence of one in 1750--at gestational ages of

> 15-26 weeks. Twelve fetuses had one or two calcified foci, one

fetus

> had four scattered foci, and one had diffuse calcification of the

> liver as well as peritoneal and intestinal calcifications. Three

> fetuses (21%) had associated severe malformations: two with

trisomy

> 18 and one with dwarfism and hydronephrosis; these fetuses were

> aborted. One fetus with polyhydramnios and calcifications within

the

> bowel died in utero; an autopsy was not allowed, but the external

> examination was normal. No case had serologic evidence of recent

> infection with Toxoplasma, rubella virus, cytomegalovirus, herpes

> simplex virus, or syphilis. Amniotic fluid (and neonatal urine

where

> applicable) cultures for cytomegalovirus were negative. Ten

fetuses

> were normal at birth, and nine of them were followed-up for a

period

> of 4 months to 4.5 years. All were found to be healthy and

thriving

> children. CONCLUSION: Our experience indicates that fetal hepatic

> calcification is not a rare ultrasonographic finding, and each

fetus

> with such calcifications should be thoroughly evaluated for

> malformations, chromosomal anomalies, and viral infection. If the

> work-up is negative, subsequent neonatal outcome carries a good

> prognosis.

> > > > Idit. Mom to Oshri. Aug 25.03 BL clubfoot.