Re: Possible Stupid Question - some possible ans wers/kristin

[Guest guest]

kristin, you now sound like i was at that age. fat and healthy.

BUT, now i am 43, 350 lbs. at 5'5 " , bmi about 58, high blood

pressure, high cholesterol, diabetes, edema, sleep apnea, stress

incontinence, diabetic neuropathy (Numbness in legs, feet, and other

areas desensitized greatly), osteo arthritis in various places, bad

knees, painful hips, sore shoulders, unwanted facial hair, major body

aches all the time,..........

you get the picture, right? this too can be all yours if you only

stay morbidly obese!!!! so do you take door number one? (all of the

above) or door number two (ds and a real life,full length)?

it's really up to you.

choose wisely,

mary y st.,louis

itchin to be switchin

> Hi Kathie,

>

> Thanks for your response. Actually....as of yet....I don't have

any of the

> problems that you mentioned. I'm quite active and don't really

have any

> joint pains or problems. I still fit into regular seats/chairs

with and

> with out arms. By looking at me, you wouldn't know that I was as

heavy as I

> am. I'm 24 years old, about 224-250 and I'm 5'4'' but I also have

quite a

> bit of muscle mass on top of (or below rather) the fat. I'm just

really

> trying to get a grip on this because I don't want to have the

problems that

> I know a lot of the people on this list have. I see people day in

and day

> out that have to suffer with being heavy. I'm trying to get it

under

> control so that I don't go through that. I'm one of those people

though

> that can lose weight on any diet that you put me on...just to put it

> back....every single time. BUT....if you put me on one, I will

lose...none

> the less. I'm just so very tired of being a yo-yo.

>

> As I mentioned in one of my other posts, my blood pressure is

normal, in

> fact, I just had my annual exam and everything is normal. I don't

run out

> of breath all that quickly....I have a fair level of endurance and

stamina.

> I have noticed though that as I get older.....I get heavier and

it's just

> that much harder to lose the weight. If I can control it

now....then I wont

> have to go through all of this later in life....and I can still

enjoy my

> life.

>

> After reading what I've been typing, I feel somewhat like I'm being

selfish.

> I do realize that there are people out there that are in far

greater need of

> this surgery than I am, but at the same time....I want it just as

badly. Is

> that a bad thing??

>

> > Re: Possible Stupid Question - some

> > possible answers

> > Importance: High

> >

> > :

> >

> > I do not know your age, weight, height, or BMI, but if you are

MO (40+

> > BMI)

> > you probably have problems that you've learned to live with

everyday. Can

> > you not fit into most armed chairs, restaurant booths, airline

seats,

> > stadium seats, never trust a folding lawn chair? Standing for

any length

> > of

> > time bothers your back or joints because your large stomach pulls

on you.

> > Cannot walk long distances comfortably without sitting down or

becoming

> > breathless. Cannot kneel at church because you won't fit between

the pews

> > or you know you will have a hell of a time getting up? Trouble

maintain

> > personal hygiene because it is getting harder to reach some

areas? Do you

> > have any of the following: Swollen feet, ankles, rashes in the

folds of

> > your skin, between your thighs, excessive facial hair, hump on

the back

> > of

> > your neck, urine leaking problems, irregular periods or excessive

periods,

> > acid reflux. Have you suffered social discrimination or career

> > advancement

> > discrimination at work because you are MO? Has you blood

pressure and

> > pulse

> > rate been rising through the years? What about you cholesterol

and blood

> > sugar numbers are they moving up? Do you know if you snore?

> >

> > Make sure you recount to your insurance company all of the weight

loss

> > programs that you have participated in all of your life.

Especially those

> > that were doctor or professionally supervised. Take a close look

at your

> > family on both sides. How many people are obese or MO? What did

your

> > family members that are deceased pass away from? Were they

obese or MO?

> > Did that contribute to their demise or impede their recovery (Ask

older

> > member about the family members you never met.) . Are there

members of

> > your

> > family with serious conditions like diabetes, heart conditions,

high blood

> > pressure, etc.?

> >

> > These are the things that your insurance company will look at to

evaluate

> > you. I think if you look more closely at yourself you will find

that you

> > do

> > have many hidden co-morbidities or the potential for serious

conditions

> > base

> > on your family history if you remain MO.

> >

> > Hope this helps. Good luck to you.

> >

> > Kathie from MD

> > Lap DS, Dr. Gagner, NY

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Possible Stupid Question

> >

> >

> > > Okay, this may be a dumb question, but I'm just curious....

> > >

> > > As anybody had this surgery that isn't suffering from problems

due to

> > being

> > > overweight?? What I mean is that I know that BCBS is going to

deny me

> > and

> > > I'm not sure that I really have anything to fight back with. I

don't

> > really

> > > have any other health issues other than being overweight. I

have normal

> > > blood pressure, I'm not diabetic, I don't have any heart

problems,

> > nothing

> > > really. If you look at me on paper....I'm perfectly normal

except for

> > the

> > > weight thing. I was just kind of hoping to nip this in the bud

BEFORE

> > > having any of these other issues come up, but I'm not sure that

they'll

> > go

> > > for that. Not to mention that my current doctor doesn't

believe that

> > I'm

> > at

> > > a point in my life where the risks are worth it since I have no

other

> > > problems. Does anybody have any insight??

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------

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> > >

[Guest guest]

kristin, you now sound like i was at that age. fat and healthy.

BUT, now i am 43, 350 lbs. at 5'5 " , bmi about 58, high blood

pressure, high cholesterol, diabetes, edema, sleep apnea, stress

incontinence, diabetic neuropathy (Numbness in legs, feet, and other

areas desensitized greatly), osteo arthritis in various places, bad

knees, painful hips, sore shoulders, unwanted facial hair, major body

aches all the time,..........

you get the picture, right? this too can be all yours if you only

stay morbidly obese!!!! so do you take door number one? (all of the

above) or door number two (ds and a real life,full length)?

it's really up to you.

choose wisely,

mary y st.,louis

itchin to be switchin

> Hi Kathie,

>

> Thanks for your response. Actually....as of yet....I don't have

any of the

> problems that you mentioned. I'm quite active and don't really

have any

> joint pains or problems. I still fit into regular seats/chairs

with and

> with out arms. By looking at me, you wouldn't know that I was as

heavy as I

> am. I'm 24 years old, about 224-250 and I'm 5'4'' but I also have

quite a

> bit of muscle mass on top of (or below rather) the fat. I'm just

really

> trying to get a grip on this because I don't want to have the

problems that

> I know a lot of the people on this list have. I see people day in

and day

> out that have to suffer with being heavy. I'm trying to get it

under

> control so that I don't go through that. I'm one of those people

though

> that can lose weight on any diet that you put me on...just to put it

> back....every single time. BUT....if you put me on one, I will

lose...none

> the less. I'm just so very tired of being a yo-yo.

>

> As I mentioned in one of my other posts, my blood pressure is

normal, in

> fact, I just had my annual exam and everything is normal. I don't

run out

> of breath all that quickly....I have a fair level of endurance and

stamina.

> I have noticed though that as I get older.....I get heavier and

it's just

> that much harder to lose the weight. If I can control it

now....then I wont

> have to go through all of this later in life....and I can still

enjoy my

> life.

>

> After reading what I've been typing, I feel somewhat like I'm being

selfish.

> I do realize that there are people out there that are in far

greater need of

> this surgery than I am, but at the same time....I want it just as

badly. Is

> that a bad thing??

>

> > Re: Possible Stupid Question - some

> > possible answers

> > Importance: High

> >

> > :

> >

> > I do not know your age, weight, height, or BMI, but if you are

MO (40+

> > BMI)

> > you probably have problems that you've learned to live with

everyday. Can

> > you not fit into most armed chairs, restaurant booths, airline

seats,

> > stadium seats, never trust a folding lawn chair? Standing for

any length

> > of

> > time bothers your back or joints because your large stomach pulls

on you.

> > Cannot walk long distances comfortably without sitting down or

becoming

> > breathless. Cannot kneel at church because you won't fit between

the pews

> > or you know you will have a hell of a time getting up? Trouble

maintain

> > personal hygiene because it is getting harder to reach some

areas? Do you

> > have any of the following: Swollen feet, ankles, rashes in the

folds of

> > your skin, between your thighs, excessive facial hair, hump on

the back

> > of

> > your neck, urine leaking problems, irregular periods or excessive

periods,

> > acid reflux. Have you suffered social discrimination or career

> > advancement

> > discrimination at work because you are MO? Has you blood

pressure and

> > pulse

> > rate been rising through the years? What about you cholesterol

and blood

> > sugar numbers are they moving up? Do you know if you snore?

> >

> > Make sure you recount to your insurance company all of the weight

loss

> > programs that you have participated in all of your life.

Especially those

> > that were doctor or professionally supervised. Take a close look

at your

> > family on both sides. How many people are obese or MO? What did

your

> > family members that are deceased pass away from? Were they

obese or MO?

> > Did that contribute to their demise or impede their recovery (Ask

older

> > member about the family members you never met.) . Are there

members of

> > your

> > family with serious conditions like diabetes, heart conditions,

high blood

> > pressure, etc.?

> >

> > These are the things that your insurance company will look at to

evaluate

> > you. I think if you look more closely at yourself you will find

that you

> > do

> > have many hidden co-morbidities or the potential for serious

conditions

> > base

> > on your family history if you remain MO.

> >

> > Hope this helps. Good luck to you.

> >

> > Kathie from MD

> > Lap DS, Dr. Gagner, NY

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Possible Stupid Question

> >

> >

> > > Okay, this may be a dumb question, but I'm just curious....

> > >

> > > As anybody had this surgery that isn't suffering from problems

due to

> > being

> > > overweight?? What I mean is that I know that BCBS is going to

deny me

> > and

> > > I'm not sure that I really have anything to fight back with. I

don't

> > really

> > > have any other health issues other than being overweight. I

have normal

> > > blood pressure, I'm not diabetic, I don't have any heart

problems,

> > nothing

> > > really. If you look at me on paper....I'm perfectly normal

except for

> > the

> > > weight thing. I was just kind of hoping to nip this in the bud

BEFORE

> > > having any of these other issues come up, but I'm not sure that

they'll

> > go

> > > for that. Not to mention that my current doctor doesn't

believe that

> > I'm

> > at

> > > a point in my life where the risks are worth it since I have no

other

> > > problems. Does anybody have any insight??

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------

------

> > >

[Guest guest]

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You mean the ds surgery will help with unwanted facial hair???!!! LOL.

Not having to get a lip wax every six weeks would almost be worth the pain

of surgery.

Best,

Belinda

[Guest guest]

--

You mean the ds surgery will help with unwanted facial hair???!!! LOL.

Not having to get a lip wax every six weeks would almost be worth the pain

of surgery.

Best,

Belinda