Re: this list, etc. and a change of heart

July 13, 2001

Yes. I have been converted. I, too, am going to only do things to

make this a " nice list. " I will never again try to provoke thought.

I will never again do what they did at Dr. Rabkin's support group

last week: ask people to become politically involved and contact

their representatives about the HMO Reform Bill. I will never again

point out any flaw in anyone's logic or contribute in any way to make

anyone look at something from another perspective. They have a right

to stay just as they are, regardless of the personal consequences.

Henceforth, I am a new man. I am no longer going to hold my breath

(Sorry Goldstein) and be blue verging on purple. I am only going to

say things that make this a " nice, " albeit intellecually sterile,

list that is totally focused on linear thinking.

Here goes --

The DS is wonderful. This list is wonderful. You are wonderful.

Everything is wonderful. WaaaaaaaHooooooooo. I am doing the happy

dance. Do the happy dance yourselves. Bush is a genius.

Swing 'dem chickens!!!!!!!! "

Very truly yours,

Nick in Sage

> I love this list, but I really look forward to reading it to hear

about

> other's experiences pre and post op and what insurance they got

approval or

> denial from. I wish that those who think they need to make

negative comments

> to each other would do as the listowner has requested and take

those comments

> elsewhere.

> I know many of you were concerned/irritated with , and now

this whatever

> about some other list and some Dr. and some other type of surgery

and some

> money to be donated to someone? I don't even care enough to find

out what it

> is all about. But please lets have this nice list to help each

other not

> tear each other down.

> I am sure many of you, like me, have had enough with judgements of

the skinny

> world and comments made to you about your weight. I'm sure you

have suffered

> discrimination like I have, in the workplace (applying for jobs)

and in the

> social arena (sitting at a table in a bar watching the men look you

over and

> decide you weren't acceptable, while your skinny friends had dances

and dates

> and you sat home alone). I, for one, WANT this surgery. I don't

care if

> had a hard time. I want this surgery. She didn't discourage

me from

> it, though at times I thought that is what her intentions were.

> I want to have the chance to get all the goodies the skinny people

get. Hey

> - if I am not model thin thats ok, but to be able to wear a size 10

(wow) I

> did that once in my life after losing 120 lbs and then gained it

all back.

> And no matter what anyone says, people (the world) in general are

NICER to

> you when you are thin. I couldn't believe how nice everyone was

when I had

> lost that weight, since most of my life I have been overweight.

> Now, as far as supervised diets go, I have asked and asked several

Drs for

> help in dieting (such as diet pills) and none of them would go for

it. Not

> one of them offered any other supervision. Can I mention that to

my

> insurance company as a reason for not having medically supervised

weight

> loss? And does over 40 years of trying diets on my own and with

Drs I can't

> EVEN remember count?

> Thanks to all,

> Carole

July 13, 2001