Guest guest Posted July 14, 2001 Report Share Posted July 14, 2001 btw, I am new to this list, joined about a week before started giving us her post-op messages. I never once said anything derogatory about ror anyone who made neagtive comments to her. It upsets me greatly to be put down by (when I didn't put her down) and Nick in Sage for no reason. Is this the way you treat newcomers? I was here when the old group all left due to the bickering and I can understand now. I joined this list for information. I do not mean that I don't want the whole story and just the " nice " stuff. But I hate bickering and name calling and put downs towards anyone and since that is what my original post was meant to convey, it amazes me that I was then made the subject of put downs. Do you want new people here or not? I have since joined other lists and they seem to keep on topic and answer questions and not put people down. Just a note to listowner - did you know you can block anyone from the list who is disruptive? I own a list on yahoo, too, and that is why I know this. No comments on who might or should be blocked, just an informational post in case this continues to get out of hand. Or maybe the people who really want information will just move on by then. Carole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2001 Report Share Posted July 14, 2001 btw, I am new to this list, joined about a week before started giving us her post-op messages. I never once said anything derogatory about ror anyone who made neagtive comments to her. It upsets me greatly to be put down by (when I didn't put her down) and Nick in Sage for no reason. Is this the way you treat newcomers? I was here when the old group all left due to the bickering and I can understand now. I joined this list for information. I do not mean that I don't want the whole story and just the " nice " stuff. But I hate bickering and name calling and put downs towards anyone and since that is what my original post was meant to convey, it amazes me that I was then made the subject of put downs. Do you want new people here or not? I have since joined other lists and they seem to keep on topic and answer questions and not put people down. Just a note to listowner - did you know you can block anyone from the list who is disruptive? I own a list on yahoo, too, and that is why I know this. No comments on who might or should be blocked, just an informational post in case this continues to get out of hand. Or maybe the people who really want information will just move on by then. Carole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2001 Report Share Posted July 14, 2001 Hi Carol - Let me clear something up for you. We left this group to avoid the mentality you have just expressed. You have basically said that anyone who is " disruptive " -- read intense, emotional, diverse, expresses something in a way I don't like -- can be shut out. Ironically, because the other group is based upon open and free communication, people accept others and we all get along very, very well. In this group, people are constantly criticized for talking about things in a way someone doesn't like. Rather than reach out to that person and recognize their frustration and pain, they jump all over them for the way in which they express themselves. The substance of their posts is ignored. At that point people become increasingly frustrated and their posts become still more strident. The circle continues. My posts have not been directed at you, rather they are aimed at the multitude of people here who don't want to read anything other than information that has been Pablumized for their tastes. Best -- Nick in Sage > btw, I am new to this list, joined about a week before started giving > us her post-op messages. I never once said anything derogatory about > ror anyone who made neagtive comments to her. It upsets me greatly to be put > down by (when I didn't put her down) and Nick in Sage for no reason. > Is this the way you treat newcomers? I was here when the old group all left > due to the bickering and I can understand now. > I joined this list for information. I do not mean that I don't want the > whole story and just the " nice " stuff. But I hate bickering and name calling > and put downs towards anyone and since that is what my original post was > meant to convey, it amazes me that I was then made the subject of put downs. > Do you want new people here or not? I have since joined other lists and they > seem to keep on topic and answer questions and not put people down. > Just a note to listowner - did you know you can block anyone from the list > who is disruptive? I own a list on yahoo, too, and that is why I know this. > No comments on who might or should be blocked, just an informational post in > case this continues to get out of hand. Or maybe the people who really want > information will just move on by then. Carole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2001 Report Share Posted July 14, 2001 Hi Carol - Let me clear something up for you. We left this group to avoid the mentality you have just expressed. You have basically said that anyone who is " disruptive " -- read intense, emotional, diverse, expresses something in a way I don't like -- can be shut out. Ironically, because the other group is based upon open and free communication, people accept others and we all get along very, very well. In this group, people are constantly criticized for talking about things in a way someone doesn't like. Rather than reach out to that person and recognize their frustration and pain, they jump all over them for the way in which they express themselves. The substance of their posts is ignored. At that point people become increasingly frustrated and their posts become still more strident. The circle continues. My posts have not been directed at you, rather they are aimed at the multitude of people here who don't want to read anything other than information that has been Pablumized for their tastes. Best -- Nick in Sage > btw, I am new to this list, joined about a week before started giving > us her post-op messages. I never once said anything derogatory about > ror anyone who made neagtive comments to her. It upsets me greatly to be put > down by (when I didn't put her down) and Nick in Sage for no reason. > Is this the way you treat newcomers? I was here when the old group all left > due to the bickering and I can understand now. > I joined this list for information. I do not mean that I don't want the > whole story and just the " nice " stuff. But I hate bickering and name calling > and put downs towards anyone and since that is what my original post was > meant to convey, it amazes me that I was then made the subject of put downs. > Do you want new people here or not? I have since joined other lists and they > seem to keep on topic and answer questions and not put people down. > Just a note to listowner - did you know you can block anyone from the list > who is disruptive? I own a list on yahoo, too, and that is why I know this. > No comments on who might or should be blocked, just an informational post in > case this continues to get out of hand. Or maybe the people who really want > information will just move on by then. Carole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2001 Report Share Posted July 14, 2001 Dear Carole, What other lists do you belong to re: DS surgery that you like? I'd like to join. I, too, begin to weary with some of what goes on here. . . Thanks, Robyn btw > btw, I am new to this list, joined about a week before started giving > us her post-op messages. I never once said anything derogatory about > ror anyone who made neagtive comments to her. It upsets me greatly to be put > down by (when I didn't put her down) and Nick in Sage for no reason. > Is this the way you treat newcomers? I was here when the old group all left > due to the bickering and I can understand now. > I joined this list for information. I do not mean that I don't want the > whole story and just the " nice " stuff. But I hate bickering and name calling > and put downs towards anyone and since that is what my original post was > meant to convey, it amazes me that I was then made the subject of put downs. > Do you want new people here or not? I have since joined other lists and they > seem to keep on topic and answer questions and not put people down. > Just a note to listowner - did you know you can block anyone from the list > who is disruptive? I own a list on yahoo, too, and that is why I know this. > No comments on who might or should be blocked, just an informational post in > case this continues to get out of hand. Or maybe the people who really want > information will just move on by then. Carole > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2001 Report Share Posted July 14, 2001 Dear Carole, What other lists do you belong to re: DS surgery that you like? I'd like to join. I, too, begin to weary with some of what goes on here. . . Thanks, Robyn btw > btw, I am new to this list, joined about a week before started giving > us her post-op messages. I never once said anything derogatory about > ror anyone who made neagtive comments to her. It upsets me greatly to be put > down by (when I didn't put her down) and Nick in Sage for no reason. > Is this the way you treat newcomers? I was here when the old group all left > due to the bickering and I can understand now. > I joined this list for information. I do not mean that I don't want the > whole story and just the " nice " stuff. But I hate bickering and name calling > and put downs towards anyone and since that is what my original post was > meant to convey, it amazes me that I was then made the subject of put downs. > Do you want new people here or not? I have since joined other lists and they > seem to keep on topic and answer questions and not put people down. > Just a note to listowner - did you know you can block anyone from the list > who is disruptive? I own a list on yahoo, too, and that is why I know this. > No comments on who might or should be blocked, just an informational post in > case this continues to get out of hand. Or maybe the people who really want > information will just move on by then. Carole > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2001 Report Share Posted July 14, 2001 Do you want new people here or not? I have since joined other lists and they seem to keep on topic and answer questions and not put people down. Just a note to listowner - did you know you can block anyone from the list who is disruptive? I own a list on yahoo, too, and that is why I know this. No comments on who might or should be blocked, just an informational post in case this continues to get out of hand. Or maybe the people who really want information will just move on by then. >>>>> Carole: Yes, we do welcome newcomers to the list. There have been quite a few heated debates and issues on this list and (the moderator) and myself (the co-moderator) as well as the list owner () have been quite upset about this. A lot of times people just respond and if you were involved in a thread you become the unwitting brunt of someone's reaction to something. I do not think the majority of people on the list are this way. I'm not really sure why some people are rather jumpy and defensive about things in general (or specific topics). Currently, this list is NOT moderated. However, this possibility IS being seriously considered because of some people's inability to let things lie, calm down and stop making personal, barbed attacks at each other. You are totally welcome to join any list(s) you want and being on this list in no way means that you exclusively must stay... But, I wanted to tell you that you are more than welcome. all the best, Noverr-Chin co-moderator lap ds with gallbladder removal January 25, 2001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2001 Report Share Posted July 14, 2001 Do you want new people here or not? I have since joined other lists and they seem to keep on topic and answer questions and not put people down. Just a note to listowner - did you know you can block anyone from the list who is disruptive? I own a list on yahoo, too, and that is why I know this. No comments on who might or should be blocked, just an informational post in case this continues to get out of hand. Or maybe the people who really want information will just move on by then. >>>>> Carole: Yes, we do welcome newcomers to the list. There have been quite a few heated debates and issues on this list and (the moderator) and myself (the co-moderator) as well as the list owner () have been quite upset about this. A lot of times people just respond and if you were involved in a thread you become the unwitting brunt of someone's reaction to something. I do not think the majority of people on the list are this way. I'm not really sure why some people are rather jumpy and defensive about things in general (or specific topics). Currently, this list is NOT moderated. However, this possibility IS being seriously considered because of some people's inability to let things lie, calm down and stop making personal, barbed attacks at each other. You are totally welcome to join any list(s) you want and being on this list in no way means that you exclusively must stay... But, I wanted to tell you that you are more than welcome. all the best, Noverr-Chin co-moderator lap ds with gallbladder removal January 25, 2001 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2001 Report Share Posted July 15, 2001 At 22:18 -0400 7/14/01, ruisha@... wrote: >Currently, this list is NOT moderated. However, this possibility IS being >seriously considered because of some people's inability to let things lie, >calm down and stop making personal, barbed attacks at each other. This is just my own personal bias, but I don't care for lists which are moderated. If you feel you must moderate, I think doing so on a person-by-person basis is better. It may be no great loss, but I for one won't remain on a moderated list. --stella -- Stella Sloop MAILTO:serenn@... 5'3 " BMI 51 Weight 292 BC/BS of TN (denied 6/12/01; in appeal) Dr Booth et al )O( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 15, 2001 Report Share Posted July 15, 2001 At 22:18 -0400 7/14/01, ruisha@... wrote: >Currently, this list is NOT moderated. However, this possibility IS being >seriously considered because of some people's inability to let things lie, >calm down and stop making personal, barbed attacks at each other. This is just my own personal bias, but I don't care for lists which are moderated. If you feel you must moderate, I think doing so on a person-by-person basis is better. It may be no great loss, but I for one won't remain on a moderated list. --stella -- Stella Sloop MAILTO:serenn@... 5'3 " BMI 51 Weight 292 BC/BS of TN (denied 6/12/01; in appeal) Dr Booth et al )O( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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