Are his feet in there right????

[Guest guest]

My son Aidan was just put in the DBB yesterday. So far so good . . .

we think. He slept through the whole thing when they we're fitting his

feet in the shoes for the first time. We we're warned a few times he

would be MISERABLE, but so far he seems happy to have his legs out of

those casts.

My questions is, how can you tell if his feet are in there correctly?

When we put them on at first his toes are just about the to the end of

the tongue and then after a few minutes or so they have crepts up a

little bit. Can anyone give me any advice? He doesn't have any

pressure spots so far.

Thanks for any help.

[Guest guest]

My son Aidan was just put in the DBB yesterday. So far so good . . .

we think. He slept through the whole thing when they we're fitting his

feet in the shoes for the first time. We we're warned a few times he

would be MISERABLE, but so far he seems happy to have his legs out of

those casts.

My questions is, how can you tell if his feet are in there correctly?

When we put them on at first his toes are just about the to the end of

the tongue and then after a few minutes or so they have crepts up a

little bit. Can anyone give me any advice? He doesn't have any

pressure spots so far.

Thanks for any help.

[Guest guest]

I don't know what is normal for other kids, but Aleksander's feet

always settle back in the shoes after they've been on for a while.

They have been doing this for 3 months now, and he's been just fine

with the shoes too.

We did have some problems at first, but that had more to do with the

shoes not fitting properly, or perhaps that we weren't getting them

on properly.

Believe me, if your son has a problem with the shoes and how they

are fitting, you will know. Aleksander, like your son, slept

through the shoe fitting, but screamed the whole way home from the

clinic and didn't stop until the shoes came off.

Just keep on checking the feet, and at the first sign of any

blisters or deep indentations, check more frequently. Aleksander

ended up in healing casts for three weeks after the first try with

the FAB. Second time around, things were fine, with a few tweaks

with the shoes. Next week we start reducing his hours and I can't

believe how quickly those three months have gone. Good luck, and

before you know it, you'll be seeing more of those beautiful little

feet!

--

> My son Aidan was just put in the DBB yesterday. So far so

good . . .

> we think. He slept through the whole thing when they we're

fitting his

> feet in the shoes for the first time. We we're warned a few times

he

> would be MISERABLE, but so far he seems happy to have his legs out

of

> those casts.

>

> My questions is, how can you tell if his feet are in there

correctly?

> When we put them on at first his toes are just about the to the

end of

> the tongue and then after a few minutes or so they have crepts up

a

> little bit. Can anyone give me any advice? He doesn't have any

> pressure spots so far.

>

> Thanks for any help.

[Guest guest]

I don't know what is normal for other kids, but Aleksander's feet

always settle back in the shoes after they've been on for a while.

They have been doing this for 3 months now, and he's been just fine

with the shoes too.

We did have some problems at first, but that had more to do with the

shoes not fitting properly, or perhaps that we weren't getting them

on properly.

Believe me, if your son has a problem with the shoes and how they

are fitting, you will know. Aleksander, like your son, slept

through the shoe fitting, but screamed the whole way home from the

clinic and didn't stop until the shoes came off.

Just keep on checking the feet, and at the first sign of any

blisters or deep indentations, check more frequently. Aleksander

ended up in healing casts for three weeks after the first try with

the FAB. Second time around, things were fine, with a few tweaks

with the shoes. Next week we start reducing his hours and I can't

believe how quickly those three months have gone. Good luck, and

before you know it, you'll be seeing more of those beautiful little

feet!

--

> My son Aidan was just put in the DBB yesterday. So far so

good . . .

> we think. He slept through the whole thing when they we're

fitting his

> feet in the shoes for the first time. We we're warned a few times

he

> would be MISERABLE, but so far he seems happy to have his legs out

of

> those casts.

>

> My questions is, how can you tell if his feet are in there

correctly?

> When we put them on at first his toes are just about the to the

end of

> the tongue and then after a few minutes or so they have crepts up

a

> little bit. Can anyone give me any advice? He doesn't have any

> pressure spots so far.

>

> Thanks for any help.

[Guest guest]

Kori will probably jump in here with her Tips and Tricks document. It is

wonderful. My son's foot always slipped a bit when we put his shoes on at

first. I wasn't getting his heel down far enough in the shoe. You really have

to dorsiflex the foot and push down on that heel to get it seated well. Oh, and

pull that strap tight and them pull it some more. At first, I think, it helps

to have two people to put the shoes on. One too hold the shoe and buckle the

strap and one to flex the foot and push the heel down. Some also like to take

the shoes off of the bar. I never did that cause by the time I knew I could,

(finding this group) I could get the shoes on by myself and never bothered

trying to take them off the bar.

A few other suggestions. A sock with grippers on the bottom help slippage.

Tenny's good foot never needs it but his club foot still does better with the

grippers. Also our orthotist drew a line in the shoe when we first started and

told to keep Tenny's toes behind the line. It helped cause I could tell at a

glance if his foot had slipped.

Oh, one other thing I don't believe I have ever seen mentioned. Does anyone

have the stick? We call it " the stick " . It looks like a very long thin tongue

depresser out of some slick metal stuff. Our orthotist gave it to us. You push

it between the foot and the shoe after you get them on. You can feel the

pressure from the foot to the sole of the shoe all the way back to the heel. We

checked Tenny's feet often at first and could tell his heel was floating. Now

I'm curious, do anyone else have a stick?

Hope this helps, I am definately not the expert here so you will probably be

getting a few better tips. Good luck.

mom to Tenny rt. cf 7/15/04 FAB 18/7

Are his feet in there right????

My son Aidan was just put in the DBB yesterday. So far so good . . .

we think. He slept through the whole thing when they we're fitting his

feet in the shoes for the first time. We we're warned a few times he

would be MISERABLE, but so far he seems happy to have his legs out of

those casts.

My questions is, how can you tell if his feet are in there correctly?

When we put them on at first his toes are just about the to the end of

the tongue and then after a few minutes or so they have crepts up a

little bit. Can anyone give me any advice? He doesn't have any

pressure spots so far.

Thanks for any help.

[Guest guest]

Kori will probably jump in here with her Tips and Tricks document. It is

wonderful. My son's foot always slipped a bit when we put his shoes on at

first. I wasn't getting his heel down far enough in the shoe. You really have

to dorsiflex the foot and push down on that heel to get it seated well. Oh, and

pull that strap tight and them pull it some more. At first, I think, it helps

to have two people to put the shoes on. One too hold the shoe and buckle the

strap and one to flex the foot and push the heel down. Some also like to take

the shoes off of the bar. I never did that cause by the time I knew I could,

(finding this group) I could get the shoes on by myself and never bothered

trying to take them off the bar.

A few other suggestions. A sock with grippers on the bottom help slippage.

Tenny's good foot never needs it but his club foot still does better with the

grippers. Also our orthotist drew a line in the shoe when we first started and

told to keep Tenny's toes behind the line. It helped cause I could tell at a

glance if his foot had slipped.

Oh, one other thing I don't believe I have ever seen mentioned. Does anyone

have the stick? We call it " the stick " . It looks like a very long thin tongue

depresser out of some slick metal stuff. Our orthotist gave it to us. You push

it between the foot and the shoe after you get them on. You can feel the

pressure from the foot to the sole of the shoe all the way back to the heel. We

checked Tenny's feet often at first and could tell his heel was floating. Now

I'm curious, do anyone else have a stick?

Hope this helps, I am definately not the expert here so you will probably be

getting a few better tips. Good luck.

mom to Tenny rt. cf 7/15/04 FAB 18/7

Are his feet in there right????

My son Aidan was just put in the DBB yesterday. So far so good . . .

we think. He slept through the whole thing when they we're fitting his

feet in the shoes for the first time. We we're warned a few times he

would be MISERABLE, but so far he seems happy to have his legs out of

those casts.

My questions is, how can you tell if his feet are in there correctly?

When we put them on at first his toes are just about the to the end of

the tongue and then after a few minutes or so they have crepts up a

little bit. Can anyone give me any advice? He doesn't have any

pressure spots so far.

Thanks for any help.

[Guest guest]

I've actually printed out the tips and tricks document. As with most

things the first time, your never sure if your getting it right.

Putting a line on the shoe for the toes is a great idea. I might

have our orthotist do that for us.

Our Orthopedic plans to keep Aidan in the DBB full time for 7 - 8

months so I want to be sure I'm doing it correctly.

Thank you.

> Kori will probably jump in here with her Tips and Tricks document.

It is wonderful. My son's foot always slipped a bit when we put his

shoes on at first. I wasn't getting his heel down far enough in the

shoe. You really have to dorsiflex the foot and push down on that

heel to get it seated well. Oh, and pull that strap tight and them

pull it some more. At first, I think, it helps to have two people to

put the shoes on. One too hold the shoe and buckle the strap and one

to flex the foot and push the heel down. Some also like to take the

shoes off of the bar. I never did that cause by the time I knew I

could, (finding this group) I could get the shoes on by myself and

never bothered trying to take them off the bar.

> A few other suggestions. A sock with grippers on the bottom help

slippage. Tenny's good foot never needs it but his club foot still

does better with the grippers. Also our orthotist drew a line in the

shoe when we first started and told to keep Tenny's toes behind the

line. It helped cause I could tell at a glance if his foot had

slipped.

> Oh, one other thing I don't believe I have ever seen mentioned.

Does anyone have the stick? We call it " the stick " . It looks like a

very long thin tongue depresser out of some slick metal stuff. Our

orthotist gave it to us. You push it between the foot and the shoe

after you get them on. You can feel the pressure from the foot to

the sole of the shoe all the way back to the heel. We checked

Tenny's feet often at first and could tell his heel was floating.

Now I'm curious, do anyone else have a stick?

>

> Hope this helps, I am definately not the expert here so you will

probably be getting a few better tips. Good luck.

>

> mom to Tenny rt. cf 7/15/04 FAB 18/7

> Are his feet in there right????

>

>

> My son Aidan was just put in the DBB yesterday. So far so

good . . .

> we think. He slept through the whole thing when they we're

fitting his

> feet in the shoes for the first time. We we're warned a few

times he

> would be MISERABLE, but so far he seems happy to have his legs

out of

> those casts.

>

> My questions is, how can you tell if his feet are in there

correctly?

> When we put them on at first his toes are just about the to the

end of

> the tongue and then after a few minutes or so they have crepts up

a

> little bit. Can anyone give me any advice? He doesn't have any

> pressure spots so far.

>

> Thanks for any help.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I've actually printed out the tips and tricks document. As with most

things the first time, your never sure if your getting it right.

Putting a line on the shoe for the toes is a great idea. I might

have our orthotist do that for us.

Our Orthopedic plans to keep Aidan in the DBB full time for 7 - 8

months so I want to be sure I'm doing it correctly.

Thank you.

> Kori will probably jump in here with her Tips and Tricks document.

It is wonderful. My son's foot always slipped a bit when we put his

shoes on at first. I wasn't getting his heel down far enough in the

shoe. You really have to dorsiflex the foot and push down on that

heel to get it seated well. Oh, and pull that strap tight and them

pull it some more. At first, I think, it helps to have two people to

put the shoes on. One too hold the shoe and buckle the strap and one

to flex the foot and push the heel down. Some also like to take the

shoes off of the bar. I never did that cause by the time I knew I

could, (finding this group) I could get the shoes on by myself and

never bothered trying to take them off the bar.

> A few other suggestions. A sock with grippers on the bottom help

slippage. Tenny's good foot never needs it but his club foot still

does better with the grippers. Also our orthotist drew a line in the

shoe when we first started and told to keep Tenny's toes behind the

line. It helped cause I could tell at a glance if his foot had

slipped.

> Oh, one other thing I don't believe I have ever seen mentioned.

Does anyone have the stick? We call it " the stick " . It looks like a

very long thin tongue depresser out of some slick metal stuff. Our

orthotist gave it to us. You push it between the foot and the shoe

after you get them on. You can feel the pressure from the foot to

the sole of the shoe all the way back to the heel. We checked

Tenny's feet often at first and could tell his heel was floating.

Now I'm curious, do anyone else have a stick?

>

> Hope this helps, I am definately not the expert here so you will

probably be getting a few better tips. Good luck.

>

> mom to Tenny rt. cf 7/15/04 FAB 18/7

> Are his feet in there right????

>

>

> My son Aidan was just put in the DBB yesterday. So far so

good . . .

> we think. He slept through the whole thing when they we're

fitting his

> feet in the shoes for the first time. We we're warned a few

times he

> would be MISERABLE, but so far he seems happy to have his legs

out of

> those casts.

>

> My questions is, how can you tell if his feet are in there

correctly?

> When we put them on at first his toes are just about the to the

end of

> the tongue and then after a few minutes or so they have crepts up

a

> little bit. Can anyone give me any advice? He doesn't have any

> pressure spots so far.

>

> Thanks for any help.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, 7-8 months 23/7?!!!! Please explain further.

Shook

Retail Operations Manager/Baking Instructor

Vie de France Yamazaki, Inc.

2070 Chain Bridge Rd. Suite 500

Vienna, VA 22182

x374

x374

fax

[Guest guest]

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, 7-8 months 23/7?!!!! Please explain further.

Shook

Retail Operations Manager/Baking Instructor

Vie de France Yamazaki, Inc.

2070 Chain Bridge Rd. Suite 500

Vienna, VA 22182

x374

x374

fax

[Guest guest]

Aidan Dr. is Dr. Noonan at the UW Madison. He prefers to keep them in

the DBB full time longer and feels that he sees better results and it

reduces the chances of relapse. I was surprised at first too, but I

feel very confident in his treatment. This is the only thing that

differs with the standard Ponseti method.

> Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, 7-8 months 23/7?!!!! Please explain further.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Shook

> Retail Operations Manager/Baking Instructor

> Vie de France Yamazaki, Inc.

> 2070 Chain Bridge Rd. Suite 500

> Vienna, VA 22182

> x374

> x374

> fax

>

>

[Guest guest]

Aidan Dr. is Dr. Noonan at the UW Madison. He prefers to keep them in

the DBB full time longer and feels that he sees better results and it

reduces the chances of relapse. I was surprised at first too, but I

feel very confident in his treatment. This is the only thing that

differs with the standard Ponseti method.

> Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, 7-8 months 23/7?!!!! Please explain further.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Shook

> Retail Operations Manager/Baking Instructor

> Vie de France Yamazaki, Inc.

> 2070 Chain Bridge Rd. Suite 500

> Vienna, VA 22182

> x374

> x374

> fax

>

>

[Guest guest]

My son's looked the same way but it was really just him curling

under his toes a little. I took them off a couple times and redid

them but then I realize the little bugger was just curling his

toes. I do try and pull on the front of his socks once they are in

the shoe to make sure his toes have wiggling room! Evertime I took

his shoes off his feet looked fine and he really never complained

except the first day or so until he got used to them.

Caroline

Son BCF 23/7 2months so far!!

> My son Aidan was just put in the DBB yesterday. So far so

good . . .

> we think. He slept through the whole thing when they we're

fitting his

> feet in the shoes for the first time. We we're warned a few times

he

> would be MISERABLE, but so far he seems happy to have his legs out

of

> those casts.

>

> My questions is, how can you tell if his feet are in there

correctly?

> When we put them on at first his toes are just about the to the

end of

> the tongue and then after a few minutes or so they have crepts up

a

> little bit. Can anyone give me any advice? He doesn't have any

> pressure spots so far.

>

> Thanks for any help.

[Guest guest]

My son's looked the same way but it was really just him curling

under his toes a little. I took them off a couple times and redid

them but then I realize the little bugger was just curling his

toes. I do try and pull on the front of his socks once they are in

the shoe to make sure his toes have wiggling room! Evertime I took

his shoes off his feet looked fine and he really never complained

except the first day or so until he got used to them.

Caroline

Son BCF 23/7 2months so far!!

> My son Aidan was just put in the DBB yesterday. So far so

good . . .

> we think. He slept through the whole thing when they we're

fitting his

> feet in the shoes for the first time. We we're warned a few times

he

> would be MISERABLE, but so far he seems happy to have his legs out

of

> those casts.

>

> My questions is, how can you tell if his feet are in there

correctly?

> When we put them on at first his toes are just about the to the

end of

> the tongue and then after a few minutes or so they have crepts up

a

> little bit. Can anyone give me any advice? He doesn't have any

> pressure spots so far.

>

> Thanks for any help.

[Guest guest]

Real quick here - sorry for being breif, low on time right now.

A sure way to know is to measure the inside of the heel from the inside

sole to the top of the boot at the ankle. Then, put the shoes on like you

normally do. Let babe wear them for a little bit, kick around an work into

them. Then use a pen and mark at the top of the ankle at the back right

above the seam where the top of the boot ends. Mark on baby's foot. Then

you measure from that mark to the bottom of the heel. It might be

difficult to know where the bottom of the heel is if the heel hasn't form

well enough (common -it will form later) but you should be able to see

where the sole of the foot is against the ruler or tape. Then compare the

measurements. Even a mm or two could be cause for problems.

And, as always you can simply cut a hole in the back of the shoe and look

inside. This is the best way to tell if it's down or not (especially if

nothing else helps). It doesn't hurt the shoes and it always helps in some

way. These shoes will likely only last you for a few months anyway, they

are disposable in this respect. If baby is upset and you are at your wits

end just cut the hole and look inside. There's a reason Markell has mfr.

shoes with holes in them in the 4 smallest sizes. Even if all things look

good on the outside, measurements seem fine and toes stay in place... if

your child is telling you they're in pain, they likely are and you have to

take the next step to discovering what's wrong. We cut the hole in one

pair of shoes and never have since. But I learned a big lesson (lessons -

see DBB tips!) in doing so and I'm very pleased we did it.

Kori

At 11:34 AM 6/24/2005, you wrote:

>My son's looked the same way but it was really just him curling

>under his toes a little. I took them off a couple times and redid

>them but then I realize the little bugger was just curling his

>toes. I do try and pull on the front of his socks once they are in

>the shoe to make sure his toes have wiggling room! Evertime I took

>his shoes off his feet looked fine and he really never complained

>except the first day or so until he got used to them.

>

>Caroline

>Son BCF 23/7 2months so far!!

>

>

> > My son Aidan was just put in the DBB yesterday. So far so

>good . . .

> > we think. He slept through the whole thing when they we're

>fitting his

> > feet in the shoes for the first time. We we're warned a few times

>he

> > would be MISERABLE, but so far he seems happy to have his legs out

>of

> > those casts.

> >

> > My questions is, how can you tell if his feet are in there

>correctly?

> > When we put them on at first his toes are just about the to the

>end of

> > the tongue and then after a few minutes or so they have crepts up

>a

> > little bit. Can anyone give me any advice? He doesn't have any

> > pressure spots so far.

> >

> > Thanks for any help.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Real quick here - sorry for being breif, low on time right now.

A sure way to know is to measure the inside of the heel from the inside

sole to the top of the boot at the ankle. Then, put the shoes on like you

normally do. Let babe wear them for a little bit, kick around an work into

them. Then use a pen and mark at the top of the ankle at the back right

above the seam where the top of the boot ends. Mark on baby's foot. Then

you measure from that mark to the bottom of the heel. It might be

difficult to know where the bottom of the heel is if the heel hasn't form

well enough (common -it will form later) but you should be able to see

where the sole of the foot is against the ruler or tape. Then compare the

measurements. Even a mm or two could be cause for problems.

And, as always you can simply cut a hole in the back of the shoe and look

inside. This is the best way to tell if it's down or not (especially if

nothing else helps). It doesn't hurt the shoes and it always helps in some

way. These shoes will likely only last you for a few months anyway, they

are disposable in this respect. If baby is upset and you are at your wits

end just cut the hole and look inside. There's a reason Markell has mfr.

shoes with holes in them in the 4 smallest sizes. Even if all things look

good on the outside, measurements seem fine and toes stay in place... if

your child is telling you they're in pain, they likely are and you have to

take the next step to discovering what's wrong. We cut the hole in one

pair of shoes and never have since. But I learned a big lesson (lessons -

see DBB tips!) in doing so and I'm very pleased we did it.

Kori

At 11:34 AM 6/24/2005, you wrote:

>My son's looked the same way but it was really just him curling

>under his toes a little. I took them off a couple times and redid

>them but then I realize the little bugger was just curling his

>toes. I do try and pull on the front of his socks once they are in

>the shoe to make sure his toes have wiggling room! Evertime I took

>his shoes off his feet looked fine and he really never complained

>except the first day or so until he got used to them.

>

>Caroline

>Son BCF 23/7 2months so far!!

>

>

> > My son Aidan was just put in the DBB yesterday. So far so

>good . . .

> > we think. He slept through the whole thing when they we're

>fitting his

> > feet in the shoes for the first time. We we're warned a few times

>he

> > would be MISERABLE, but so far he seems happy to have his legs out

>of

> > those casts.

> >

> > My questions is, how can you tell if his feet are in there

>correctly?

> > When we put them on at first his toes are just about the to the

>end of

> > the tongue and then after a few minutes or so they have crepts up

>a

> > little bit. Can anyone give me any advice? He doesn't have any

> > pressure spots so far.

> >

> > Thanks for any help.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

But it's unnecessary. If this was necessary, those of us who have followed

the normal schedule should have children with relapsed feet. If you follow

the schedule, it is plenty. The problems with relapses are due to docs who

reduce too soon, and too much. Going from 23/7 to 12/7 is too drastic and

I would hazard a guess that is what your doc was seeing. If the stricter

reduction schedule is followed the results should be as good as Dr.

Ponseti's research shows.

7-8 mo's is a LONG time in 23/7. I admire that a doc is being cautious,

but that's going to be a tough road to follow. It's good for them to be

out of the brace after a point, standing without it on is good for their

feet. And this way way works, and works well if applied properly. If it

didn't, Dr. Ponseti would not say 3mo's 23/7 only whenever a parent has

asked him about this. I've seen his replies on this a number of times and

he states it's unnecessary each time.

This is something you'll have to decide for yourself if it's worth

questioning, but if it were me I sure as heck would. I'm a long hour

nut... but I wouldn't do 7-8mo 23/7. The schedule is 23/7 for 3 mo, then

18-20 (some go directly to 16-18), 16-18, 14-6 till walking and then 12-14

till release from the brace. Each reduction focusing on the higher number

of course. There is also the consideration that if you follow this

schedule, you'll be reducing around the time he's walking from 23/7 to the

much lower 12-14 so he can get time in on his feet stretching. Which may

possibly cause sleeping issues you don't need to have to deal with. I

assure you, we wouldn't recommend this schedule if it didn't work. The

problems with relapse lie with modifying the Method, following it exactly

works and little more is needed for most all clubfeet regardless of severity.

Do what you think is best for you and your family, that's what it boils

down to of course :~}

Kori

At 07:02 AM 6/24/2005, you wrote:

>Aidan Dr. is Dr. Noonan at the UW Madison. He prefers to keep them in

>the DBB full time longer and feels that he sees better results and it

>reduces the chances of relapse. I was surprised at first too, but I

>feel very confident in his treatment. This is the only thing that

>differs with the standard Ponseti method.

>

>

> > Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, 7-8 months 23/7?!!!! Please explain further.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Shook

> > Retail Operations Manager/Baking Instructor

> > Vie de France Yamazaki, Inc.

> > 2070 Chain Bridge Rd. Suite 500

> > Vienna, VA 22182

> > x374

> > x374

> > fax

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

But it's unnecessary. If this was necessary, those of us who have followed

the normal schedule should have children with relapsed feet. If you follow

the schedule, it is plenty. The problems with relapses are due to docs who

reduce too soon, and too much. Going from 23/7 to 12/7 is too drastic and

I would hazard a guess that is what your doc was seeing. If the stricter

reduction schedule is followed the results should be as good as Dr.

Ponseti's research shows.

7-8 mo's is a LONG time in 23/7. I admire that a doc is being cautious,

but that's going to be a tough road to follow. It's good for them to be

out of the brace after a point, standing without it on is good for their

feet. And this way way works, and works well if applied properly. If it

didn't, Dr. Ponseti would not say 3mo's 23/7 only whenever a parent has

asked him about this. I've seen his replies on this a number of times and

he states it's unnecessary each time.

This is something you'll have to decide for yourself if it's worth

questioning, but if it were me I sure as heck would. I'm a long hour

nut... but I wouldn't do 7-8mo 23/7. The schedule is 23/7 for 3 mo, then

18-20 (some go directly to 16-18), 16-18, 14-6 till walking and then 12-14

till release from the brace. Each reduction focusing on the higher number

of course. There is also the consideration that if you follow this

schedule, you'll be reducing around the time he's walking from 23/7 to the

much lower 12-14 so he can get time in on his feet stretching. Which may

possibly cause sleeping issues you don't need to have to deal with. I

assure you, we wouldn't recommend this schedule if it didn't work. The

problems with relapse lie with modifying the Method, following it exactly

works and little more is needed for most all clubfeet regardless of severity.

Do what you think is best for you and your family, that's what it boils

down to of course :~}

Kori

At 07:02 AM 6/24/2005, you wrote:

>Aidan Dr. is Dr. Noonan at the UW Madison. He prefers to keep them in

>the DBB full time longer and feels that he sees better results and it

>reduces the chances of relapse. I was surprised at first too, but I

>feel very confident in his treatment. This is the only thing that

>differs with the standard Ponseti method.

>

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> > Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, 7-8 months 23/7?!!!! Please explain further.

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[Guest guest]

I think it also depends on the child and their age too. Dr. Ponseti in our case

was very

clear that if we had started earlier he would have kept in the shoes 23/7

longer. But

because of his age and being past the standing up and walking stage, he kept us

in them

for 4 1/2 months 23/7 or 22/7 and we opted for the 23/7. And still has

relapsed.

He was 13 months when he started wearing the s full time. is

now walking,

but Dr. Ponseti still wants him in the shoes 16 hours a day.

But 7-8 months is a very long time. Make sure if you go that long that you

spend that full

hour out, working on standing, and with the bar on too. That standing time in

and out of

the shoes is so important.

10-09-03 3 days walking!!!

> > > Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, 7-8 months 23/7?!!!! Please explain further.

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> > > 2070 Chain Bridge Rd. Suite 500

> > > Vienna, VA 22182

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[Guest guest]

I think it also depends on the child and their age too. Dr. Ponseti in our case

was very

clear that if we had started earlier he would have kept in the shoes 23/7

longer. But

because of his age and being past the standing up and walking stage, he kept us

in them

for 4 1/2 months 23/7 or 22/7 and we opted for the 23/7. And still has

relapsed.

He was 13 months when he started wearing the s full time. is

now walking,

but Dr. Ponseti still wants him in the shoes 16 hours a day.

But 7-8 months is a very long time. Make sure if you go that long that you

spend that full

hour out, working on standing, and with the bar on too. That standing time in

and out of

the shoes is so important.

10-09-03 3 days walking!!!

> > > Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, 7-8 months 23/7?!!!! Please explain further.

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> > > Shook

> > > Retail Operations Manager/Baking Instructor

> > > Vie de France Yamazaki, Inc.

> > > 2070 Chain Bridge Rd. Suite 500

> > > Vienna, VA 22182

> > > x374

> > > x374

> > > fax

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[Guest guest]

Thank you for the advice. Aidan is now just over 3 mos old and was

in the casts for almost the full 3 mos. He has bi-lateral clubfoot

with a difficult rt foot. He starts physical therapy next week. Is

that typical for children with clubfoot? Do they all do physical

therapy followig casting?? How many days a week for how long I

expect him need the in-clinic sessions?

I didn't realize the importance of getting them standing in and out

of the brace. Is there anything that I can do with him right now at

this young age while he is out of the brace other than dorsiflexing

his feet? I am sure that the physcial therapist will have some tips

too.

Thank you for responding.

> > > > Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, 7-8 months 23/7?!!!! Please explain

further.

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> > > > Shook

> > > > Retail Operations Manager/Baking Instructor

> > > > Vie de France Yamazaki, Inc.

> > > > 2070 Chain Bridge Rd. Suite 500

> > > > Vienna, VA 22182

> > > > x374

> > > > x374

> > > > fax

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[Guest guest]

Thank you for the advice. Aidan is now just over 3 mos old and was

in the casts for almost the full 3 mos. He has bi-lateral clubfoot

with a difficult rt foot. He starts physical therapy next week. Is

that typical for children with clubfoot? Do they all do physical

therapy followig casting?? How many days a week for how long I

expect him need the in-clinic sessions?

I didn't realize the importance of getting them standing in and out

of the brace. Is there anything that I can do with him right now at

this young age while he is out of the brace other than dorsiflexing

his feet? I am sure that the physcial therapist will have some tips

too.

Thank you for responding.

> > > > Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, 7-8 months 23/7?!!!! Please explain

further.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Shook

> > > > Retail Operations Manager/Baking Instructor

> > > > Vie de France Yamazaki, Inc.

> > > > 2070 Chain Bridge Rd. Suite 500

> > > > Vienna, VA 22182

> > > > x374

> > > > x374

> > > > fax

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

I don't think a lot of kids go to physical therapy although I personally

recommend they do.

But my son's were very severe bl atypical. He also has a history of 2 surgeries

and almost

a full year of casts. Dr. Ponseti got us into physical therapy when we made the

first trip

out right after the first surgery. was 6 months I think at the time.

Maybe 7 by the

time we got down there. We were primarily in PT because of the scarring, we had

to

stretch the scars as well as his feet to loosen them up. Now, we've remained in

PT at first

it was 4 days a week, then we dropped down to 3, then to 1 because of insurance

issues.

is 21 months old and finally started walking, so we've dropped PT for the

next 2

months to get him walking as much as possible. If his feet don't correct

themselves

naturally as Dr. P is hoping, then we will need to go down for more casting,

then we will

start PT back up again.

PT is a wonderful thing if you find a good therapist and your insurance covers

it. If his

feet look good and you are still stretching them at home, you will probably only

do 2 days

a week if even that. But just keep stretching them, tickle them as often as

possible. get

him used to standing on different textures and work on those leg muscles,

standing and

squatting with him. Oh how fun! Just enjoy this time and be faithful with

those shoes.

And the biggest thing is don't drop down in hours too drastically. We dropped

from 23 to

18 for our first drop, and now we're at 16.

Aidan is still so young he really hasn't lost much time!! That's awesome!

Lord bless you!

10-09-03

s 16 faithfully!

> > > > > Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, 7-8 months 23/7?!!!! Please explain

> further.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Shook

> > > > > Retail Operations Manager/Baking Instructor

> > > > > Vie de France Yamazaki, Inc.

> > > > > 2070 Chain Bridge Rd. Suite 500

> > > > > Vienna, VA 22182

> > > > > x374

> > > > > x374

> > > > > fax

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

I don't think a lot of kids go to physical therapy although I personally

recommend they do.

But my son's were very severe bl atypical. He also has a history of 2 surgeries

and almost

a full year of casts. Dr. Ponseti got us into physical therapy when we made the

first trip

out right after the first surgery. was 6 months I think at the time.

Maybe 7 by the

time we got down there. We were primarily in PT because of the scarring, we had

to

stretch the scars as well as his feet to loosen them up. Now, we've remained in

PT at first

it was 4 days a week, then we dropped down to 3, then to 1 because of insurance

issues.

is 21 months old and finally started walking, so we've dropped PT for the

next 2

months to get him walking as much as possible. If his feet don't correct

themselves

naturally as Dr. P is hoping, then we will need to go down for more casting,

then we will

start PT back up again.

PT is a wonderful thing if you find a good therapist and your insurance covers

it. If his

feet look good and you are still stretching them at home, you will probably only

do 2 days

a week if even that. But just keep stretching them, tickle them as often as

possible. get

him used to standing on different textures and work on those leg muscles,

standing and

squatting with him. Oh how fun! Just enjoy this time and be faithful with

those shoes.

And the biggest thing is don't drop down in hours too drastically. We dropped

from 23 to

18 for our first drop, and now we're at 16.

Aidan is still so young he really hasn't lost much time!! That's awesome!

Lord bless you!

10-09-03

s 16 faithfully!

> > > > > Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, 7-8 months 23/7?!!!! Please explain

> further.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Shook

> > > > > Retail Operations Manager/Baking Instructor

> > > > > Vie de France Yamazaki, Inc.

> > > > > 2070 Chain Bridge Rd. Suite 500

> > > > > Vienna, VA 22182

> > > > > x374

> > > > > x374

> > > > > fax

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