Re: Fw: [OSSG-IOWA-NEBRASKA] Side effect question for BPD-DS

[Guest guest]

KC,

That happened to me twice in 8 months. It wasnt a whole lot and never got on my clothes. I dont remember it smelling bad......

I think once your bowels get accustomed to doing its plumbing a different way, things settle down and the orange oil leak seems to go away too. If it only happened to me twice might have been due to alot of fat ingestion without thinking but I cant remember what I ate when that happened. I wouldnt worry about it if I were you.....it wont happen on a daily basis, I can say that much!

Judie

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/30/01 3:21:04 PM, duodenalswitch writes:

<< So far, I have yet to find anyone who has described having this problem as

a result of having the DS surgery. I am curious as to whether this is a

problem for DSers. I would love to know the answer to this question, as this

obviously is a side effect that I would not to live with on a daily basis.

Again, sorry to be so graphic.

>>

K.C.: Hi! Congrats on your surgery date next month. I have never been on

Xenical, but I've heard the side effects *can be* similar to that of DS. I

have had a few times when I went to the bathroom and some oily orange

discharge came out (usually accompanied by quite a bit of gas, I don't mean

to be graphic, either! LOL)... I never had an uncontrollable 'leak' or any

noticable problems with it. It occured a few times and didn't persist. It

most likely was related to something really fatty that I ate. In general, I

do not consume a lot of fatty foods, so perhaps my experience is so limited

because of this.

I've read other people having this problems so I know that some post-ops have

dealt with this (uncontrollable 'oil leak'). If you look in the archives and

do a search I'm sure you'll find some older posts that discuss this issue.

There's another board 'DS_postopproblems' and I recall this coming up there

as well.

I don't know whether you would experience this as a DS post-op and/or whether

it would be to a similar degree. However, I know that this is a possible

side effect of the surgery with high fat consumption. It is not a problem

that every post-op deals with but some bodies do react this way with high fat

meals as post-op DSers. I think there was at least one other person who had

taken Xenical and then experienced something similar as a post-op DSer (or

they were wondering about it). Once again, the archive search would reveal

this information for you.

I'm six months post-op and this surgery has been wonderful for my system.

I've had gas pains (especially in the first three weeks), but nothing

outrageous. I've had loose stools (once again, these were par for the first

three weeks but I rarely have them now), but nothing uncontrollable. I've

been able to eat dairy and any other food. I've had high fat foods but I

don't think I've always had an 'oil leak' whenever I ate them. I just recall

having some oily discharge when going to the bathroom a few times (and being

really gassy). It may have been high fat that was the culprit or the fact

that I had just eaten that food and my body hadn't yet gotten used to it?

I think it would be really interesting to see if there is any correlation

between the experiences people have on Xenical and as post-op DSers. The

drug and surgery are not identical but the premise of how weight is lost

through malapsorption is.

all the best,

lap ds with gallbladder removal

January 25, 2001

six months post-op and still feelin' fabu!

pre-op: 307 lbs/bmi 45 (5 9 1/2 " )

now: 229 (oh, man!)

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/31/01 1:21:32 PM, duodenalswitch writes:

<< Thanks for writing back....who did your surgery? >>

Hi - I had my surgery with Dr. Gagner/Mt. Sinai on January 25, 2001.

all the best,

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/31/01 1:21:32 PM, duodenalswitch writes:

<< Thanks for writing back....who did your surgery? >>

Hi - I had my surgery with Dr. Gagner/Mt. Sinai on January 25, 2001.

all the best,

[Guest guest]

,

Thanks for writing back....who did your surgery?

Re: Fw: [OSSG-IOWA-NEBRASKA] Side effect question

for BPD-DS

>

> In a message dated 7/30/01 3:21:04 PM, duodenalswitch

writes:

>

> << So far, I have yet to find anyone who has described having this problem

as

> a result of having the DS surgery. I am curious as to whether this is a

> problem for DSers. I would love to know the answer to this question, as

this

> obviously is a side effect that I would not to live with on a daily

basis.

> Again, sorry to be so graphic.

> >>

>

> K.C.: Hi! Congrats on your surgery date next month. I have never been

on

> Xenical, but I've heard the side effects *can be* similar to that of DS.

I

> have had a few times when I went to the bathroom and some oily orange

> discharge came out (usually accompanied by quite a bit of gas, I don't

mean

> to be graphic, either! LOL)... I never had an uncontrollable 'leak' or

any

> noticable problems with it. It occured a few times and didn't persist.

It

> most likely was related to something really fatty that I ate. In general,

I

> do not consume a lot of fatty foods, so perhaps my experience is so

limited

> because of this.

>

> I've read other people having this problems so I know that some post-ops

have

> dealt with this (uncontrollable 'oil leak'). If you look in the archives

and

> do a search I'm sure you'll find some older posts that discuss this issue.

> There's another board 'DS_postopproblems' and I recall this coming up

there

> as well.

>

> I don't know whether you would experience this as a DS post-op and/or

whether

> it would be to a similar degree. However, I know that this is a possible

> side effect of the surgery with high fat consumption. It is not a problem

> that every post-op deals with but some bodies do react this way with high

fat

> meals as post-op DSers. I think there was at least one other person who

had

> taken Xenical and then experienced something similar as a post-op DSer (or

> they were wondering about it). Once again, the archive search would

reveal

> this information for you.

>

> I'm six months post-op and this surgery has been wonderful for my system.

> I've had gas pains (especially in the first three weeks), but nothing

> outrageous. I've had loose stools (once again, these were par for the

first

> three weeks but I rarely have them now), but nothing uncontrollable. I've

> been able to eat dairy and any other food. I've had high fat foods but I

> don't think I've always had an 'oil leak' whenever I ate them. I just

recall

> having some oily discharge when going to the bathroom a few times (and

being

> really gassy). It may have been high fat that was the culprit or the fact

> that I had just eaten that food and my body hadn't yet gotten used to it?

>

> I think it would be really interesting to see if there is any correlation

> between the experiences people have on Xenical and as post-op DSers. The

> drug and surgery are not identical but the premise of how weight is lost

> through malapsorption is.

>

> all the best,

>

> lap ds with gallbladder removal

> January 25, 2001

>

> six months post-op and still feelin' fabu!

>

> pre-op: 307 lbs/bmi 45 (5 9 1/2 " )

> now: 229 (oh, man!)

>

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

,

Thanks for writing back....who did your surgery?

Re: Fw: [OSSG-IOWA-NEBRASKA] Side effect question

for BPD-DS

>

> In a message dated 7/30/01 3:21:04 PM, duodenalswitch

writes:

>

> << So far, I have yet to find anyone who has described having this problem

as

> a result of having the DS surgery. I am curious as to whether this is a

> problem for DSers. I would love to know the answer to this question, as

this

> obviously is a side effect that I would not to live with on a daily

basis.

> Again, sorry to be so graphic.

> >>

>

> K.C.: Hi! Congrats on your surgery date next month. I have never been

on

> Xenical, but I've heard the side effects *can be* similar to that of DS.

I

> have had a few times when I went to the bathroom and some oily orange

> discharge came out (usually accompanied by quite a bit of gas, I don't

mean

> to be graphic, either! LOL)... I never had an uncontrollable 'leak' or

any

> noticable problems with it. It occured a few times and didn't persist.

It

> most likely was related to something really fatty that I ate. In general,

I

> do not consume a lot of fatty foods, so perhaps my experience is so

limited

> because of this.

>

> I've read other people having this problems so I know that some post-ops

have

> dealt with this (uncontrollable 'oil leak'). If you look in the archives

and

> do a search I'm sure you'll find some older posts that discuss this issue.

> There's another board 'DS_postopproblems' and I recall this coming up

there

> as well.

>

> I don't know whether you would experience this as a DS post-op and/or

whether

> it would be to a similar degree. However, I know that this is a possible

> side effect of the surgery with high fat consumption. It is not a problem

> that every post-op deals with but some bodies do react this way with high

fat

> meals as post-op DSers. I think there was at least one other person who

had

> taken Xenical and then experienced something similar as a post-op DSer (or

> they were wondering about it). Once again, the archive search would

reveal

> this information for you.

>

> I'm six months post-op and this surgery has been wonderful for my system.

> I've had gas pains (especially in the first three weeks), but nothing

> outrageous. I've had loose stools (once again, these were par for the

first

> three weeks but I rarely have them now), but nothing uncontrollable. I've

> been able to eat dairy and any other food. I've had high fat foods but I

> don't think I've always had an 'oil leak' whenever I ate them. I just

recall

> having some oily discharge when going to the bathroom a few times (and

being

> really gassy). It may have been high fat that was the culprit or the fact

> that I had just eaten that food and my body hadn't yet gotten used to it?

>

> I think it would be really interesting to see if there is any correlation

> between the experiences people have on Xenical and as post-op DSers. The

> drug and surgery are not identical but the premise of how weight is lost

> through malapsorption is.

>

> all the best,

>

> lap ds with gallbladder removal

> January 25, 2001

>

> six months post-op and still feelin' fabu!

>

> pre-op: 307 lbs/bmi 45 (5 9 1/2 " )

> now: 229 (oh, man!)

>

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

I took Xenical for a month and lost about 10 pounds. I still have 2

boxes sitting around the house. My bowel movements were explosive

and unpredictable. I would have an uncontrolable urge to break wind

followed by the orange stain. And it smelled foul. After a month of

this I'd had enough.

Post-op I do occasionally notice an oily discharge in the toilet after

eating high fat food. But I never have the oily stain in my

undergarments and all of my bowel movements can be controlled.

Although it did take a few weeks to get used to their new rythym. I do

not worry about breaking wind and soiling myself.

>

> [OSSG-IOWA-NEBRASKA] FIRST BAD DS EXPERIENCE

>

>

> WEll, Well, Well......

>

> I had my Duodenal Switch 10months ago...i'm down over 90 pounds.

And for the

> first time since surgery I had a bad experience. I feel so

lucky.......this

> whole time everything has been so easy. But today in the car we

had to pull

> over on a country road so i could have a BM. UGH not fun. I got

really

> crampy and then after I felt great again.

>

> I eat very very very normal with my DS and so far I have felt

nothing but

> NORMAL. No super small portions. Not terrible BM's. But

yesterday I think

> I over did it with my FAT in take and I paid for it today. ehehe

>

> But....I'm doing great. Just thought I would share that my

surgery is not

> longer perfect. But one bad day out of 10 months to lose 90 some

pounds...I

> can handle that *winks*

>

> Life is good,

>

> kim in o

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I took Xenical for a month and lost about 10 pounds. I still have 2

boxes sitting around the house. My bowel movements were explosive

and unpredictable. I would have an uncontrolable urge to break wind

followed by the orange stain. And it smelled foul. After a month of

this I'd had enough.

Post-op I do occasionally notice an oily discharge in the toilet after

eating high fat food. But I never have the oily stain in my

undergarments and all of my bowel movements can be controlled.

Although it did take a few weeks to get used to their new rythym. I do

not worry about breaking wind and soiling myself.

>

> [OSSG-IOWA-NEBRASKA] FIRST BAD DS EXPERIENCE

>

>

> WEll, Well, Well......

>

> I had my Duodenal Switch 10months ago...i'm down over 90 pounds.

And for the

> first time since surgery I had a bad experience. I feel so

lucky.......this

> whole time everything has been so easy. But today in the car we

had to pull

> over on a country road so i could have a BM. UGH not fun. I got

really

> crampy and then after I felt great again.

>

> I eat very very very normal with my DS and so far I have felt

nothing but

> NORMAL. No super small portions. Not terrible BM's. But

yesterday I think

> I over did it with my FAT in take and I paid for it today. ehehe

>

> But....I'm doing great. Just thought I would share that my

surgery is not

> longer perfect. But one bad day out of 10 months to lose 90 some

pounds...I

> can handle that *winks*

>

> Life is good,

>

> kim in o

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for writing back. I am so happy to hear that you have not

experienced this nasty side effet. I also discontinued the Xenical because

I could not live with the problem. Do you happen to know the length of your

common channel? 50cm 75cm or 100cm?

[OSSG-IOWA-NEBRASKA] FIRST BAD DS EXPERIENCE

> >

> >

> > WEll, Well, Well......

> >

> > I had my Duodenal Switch 10months ago...i'm down over 90 pounds.

> And for the

> > first time since surgery I had a bad experience. I feel so

> lucky.......this

> > whole time everything has been so easy. But today in the car we

> had to pull

> > over on a country road so i could have a BM. UGH not fun. I got

> really

> > crampy and then after I felt great again.

> >

> > I eat very very very normal with my DS and so far I have felt

> nothing but

> > NORMAL. No super small portions. Not terrible BM's. But

> yesterday I think

> > I over did it with my FAT in take and I paid for it today. ehehe

> >

> > But....I'm doing great. Just thought I would share that my

> surgery is not

> > longer perfect. But one bad day out of 10 months to lose 90 some

> pounds...I

> > can handle that *winks*

> >

> > Life is good,

> >

> > kim in o

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I had that oily orange stuff for about 3 weeks. Only once did I lose

control. Now it seems to be blended into my BMs. And I don't have a

BM every day any more. Some days 2-3, sometimes I skip a day.

in Seattle

> I will be having the Duodenal Switch next month. I

have a concern about a side effect of the surgery. I am wondering if

anyone out there can tell me if they have had a problem with

involuntary leaking of fat from the rectum

[Guest guest]

I had that orange oily leak for two days, after eating butterfish...and I

did not even had my surgery yet! See....it happens without having the

surgery!!!!!!!!!

Violeta in Spain

Re: Fw: [OSSG-IOWA-NEBRASKA] Side effect question

for BPD-DS

> I had that oily orange stuff for about 3 weeks. Only once did I lose

> control. Now it seems to be blended into my BMs. And I don't have a

> BM every day any more. Some days 2-3, sometimes I skip a day.

>

> in Seattle

>

>

> > I will be having the Duodenal Switch next month. I

> have a concern about a side effect of the surgery. I am wondering if

> anyone out there can tell me if they have had a problem with

> involuntary leaking of fat from the rectum

>

>

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

I had that orange oily leak for two days, after eating butterfish...and I

did not even had my surgery yet! See....it happens without having the

surgery!!!!!!!!!

Violeta in Spain

Re: Fw: [OSSG-IOWA-NEBRASKA] Side effect question

for BPD-DS

> I had that oily orange stuff for about 3 weeks. Only once did I lose

> control. Now it seems to be blended into my BMs. And I don't have a

> BM every day any more. Some days 2-3, sometimes I skip a day.

>

> in Seattle

>

>

> > I will be having the Duodenal Switch next month. I

> have a concern about a side effect of the surgery. I am wondering if

> anyone out there can tell me if they have had a problem with

> involuntary leaking of fat from the rectum

>

>

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

>