Guest guest Posted September 5, 2001 Report Share Posted September 5, 2001 all of the capitals start at the top. the M-start at the top corner and go down. go back to the top corner and make the V and back down. W- start at the top corner and follow it.... for the wood, i used 4 big lines. did that answer your question??? Lori mom to Alec (9 on friday-DS) and le (12) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2001 Report Share Posted September 5, 2001 all of the capitals start at the top. the M-start at the top corner and go down. go back to the top corner and make the V and back down. W- start at the top corner and follow it.... for the wood, i used 4 big lines. did that answer your question??? Lori mom to Alec (9 on friday-DS) and le (12) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2001 Report Share Posted September 5, 2001 OK, so it's start at the dot, go down, lift pencil and start at the dot, go down and continue up and down to bottom corner? Thanks!! Apparently, no one told the new aide or teachers how to do any of it, so they're starting out not using it in classes again and I'm so ticked off I can't remember for sure! Re: Handwriting without tears all of the capitals start at the top. the M-start at the top corner and go down. go back to the top corner and make the V and back down. W- start at the top corner and follow it.... for the wood, i used 4 big lines. did that answer your question??? Lori mom to Alec (9 on friday-DS) and le (12) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2001 Report Share Posted September 5, 2001 OK, so it's start at the dot, go down, lift pencil and start at the dot, go down and continue up and down to bottom corner? Thanks!! Apparently, no one told the new aide or teachers how to do any of it, so they're starting out not using it in classes again and I'm so ticked off I can't remember for sure! Re: Handwriting without tears all of the capitals start at the top. the M-start at the top corner and go down. go back to the top corner and make the V and back down. W- start at the top corner and follow it.... for the wood, i used 4 big lines. did that answer your question??? Lori mom to Alec (9 on friday-DS) and le (12) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2001 Report Share Posted September 7, 2001 Hi, still struggles with handwriting. Her printing is not the greatest and last year (grade 4) they tried to give her cursive. I had it written into the IEP that she is not required to do any assignments in cursive. She also had computer training at an Assistive Tech place and her keybording is great! As for myself, I was worried that if I learned how to use the computer, ( i resisted for as long as I could) then I would lose my long hand. And lo and behold I hardly ever write anything any more. Not even in my journal. now that is sad. ~ mom to amanda 11 DS and 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2001 Report Share Posted September 7, 2001 Hi, still struggles with handwriting. Her printing is not the greatest and last year (grade 4) they tried to give her cursive. I had it written into the IEP that she is not required to do any assignments in cursive. She also had computer training at an Assistive Tech place and her keybording is great! As for myself, I was worried that if I learned how to use the computer, ( i resisted for as long as I could) then I would lose my long hand. And lo and behold I hardly ever write anything any more. Not even in my journal. now that is sad. ~ mom to amanda 11 DS and 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2001 Report Share Posted September 7, 2001 In a message dated 9/7/01 7:30:51 PM Central Daylight Time, linman42@... writes: > As for myself, I was worried that if I learned how to use the computer, ( i > resisted for as long as I could) then I would lose my long hand. And lo > and > behold I hardly ever write anything any more. Not even in my journal. now > that is sad. > > ~ mom to amanda 11 DS and 7 > > I still write a fair amount but no one can read it any more. 's > is better than mine. We didn't have computers when he was learning . He > did have a typewriter but wasn't too proficient with it. We got him a > manual for the finger exercise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2001 Report Share Posted September 7, 2001 In a message dated 9/7/01 7:30:51 PM Central Daylight Time, linman42@... writes: > As for myself, I was worried that if I learned how to use the computer, ( i > resisted for as long as I could) then I would lose my long hand. And lo > and > behold I hardly ever write anything any more. Not even in my journal. now > that is sad. > > ~ mom to amanda 11 DS and 7 > > I still write a fair amount but no one can read it any more. 's > is better than mine. We didn't have computers when he was learning . He > did have a typewriter but wasn't too proficient with it. We got him a > manual for the finger exercise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2001 Report Share Posted September 9, 2001 , What was the training like? Did they use anything in particular to teach her? Judi Re: Handwriting without tears Hi, still struggles with handwriting. Her printing is not the greatest and last year (grade 4) they tried to give her cursive. I had it written into the IEP that she is not required to do any assignments in cursive. She also had computer training at an Assistive Tech place and her keybording is great! As for myself, I was worried that if I learned how to use the computer, ( i resisted for as long as I could) then I would lose my long hand. And lo and behold I hardly ever write anything any more. Not even in my journal. now that is sad. ~ mom to amanda 11 DS and 7 Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for messages to go to the sender of the message. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2001 Report Share Posted September 9, 2001 , What was the training like? Did they use anything in particular to teach her? Judi Re: Handwriting without tears Hi, still struggles with handwriting. Her printing is not the greatest and last year (grade 4) they tried to give her cursive. I had it written into the IEP that she is not required to do any assignments in cursive. She also had computer training at an Assistive Tech place and her keybording is great! As for myself, I was worried that if I learned how to use the computer, ( i resisted for as long as I could) then I would lose my long hand. And lo and behold I hardly ever write anything any more. Not even in my journal. now that is sad. ~ mom to amanda 11 DS and 7 Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for messages to go to the sender of the message. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2001 Report Share Posted September 9, 2001 The training was excellent. They are really using this assistive tech for help with speech realted issues. Like if the child is non verbal there would be a program with pics to help with communication. The computers and furniture was also extremely assessible and created for all types of disabilities in mind. In amanda's case, she is very verbal and we used it to improve speed in work - keep up in her inclusion class and also her handwriting was so poor it was to also increase some fine motor skills. So they worked on keyboarding with her thru the disney program, Adventures In Typing. She also had reading and math related games and skills on the puter. After a while she was so good that she was typing her hw at computer class and writing her writing pieces. She had a complete evalutation from Assistive Technology at Brooklyn College and the agency YAI was involved in this training. The best part is, the Board of Education of New York City approved a lap top computer for her and a printer to be used at school. So now in her IEP, the Assist tech box is checked off. She doesnt use the lap top at school, but does alot of her writing on the computer at home. She also has to have assess to a computer at school or I bring the lap top right back in there. She " graduated " from this program. She was the 2nd graduate of the program and is great on the computer. By the way, medicaid paid for it and the bd of ed foot the bill for the computer. Best thing the bd of ed ever did!! ~ Mom to 11 DS and jesse 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2001 Report Share Posted September 9, 2001 The training was excellent. They are really using this assistive tech for help with speech realted issues. Like if the child is non verbal there would be a program with pics to help with communication. The computers and furniture was also extremely assessible and created for all types of disabilities in mind. In amanda's case, she is very verbal and we used it to improve speed in work - keep up in her inclusion class and also her handwriting was so poor it was to also increase some fine motor skills. So they worked on keyboarding with her thru the disney program, Adventures In Typing. She also had reading and math related games and skills on the puter. After a while she was so good that she was typing her hw at computer class and writing her writing pieces. She had a complete evalutation from Assistive Technology at Brooklyn College and the agency YAI was involved in this training. The best part is, the Board of Education of New York City approved a lap top computer for her and a printer to be used at school. So now in her IEP, the Assist tech box is checked off. She doesnt use the lap top at school, but does alot of her writing on the computer at home. She also has to have assess to a computer at school or I bring the lap top right back in there. She " graduated " from this program. She was the 2nd graduate of the program and is great on the computer. By the way, medicaid paid for it and the bd of ed foot the bill for the computer. Best thing the bd of ed ever did!! ~ Mom to 11 DS and jesse 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2001 Report Share Posted September 10, 2001 One thing I would like to post as a reminder to everyone. While I personally feel learning to write cursive is no longer necessary in our society, so to have children struggle with it seems a waste of time they could put to better use, I do think it is important to teach them to read cursive. Teachers put notes on boards in cursive, peers copy notes in cursive and people still write notes and letters to each other in cursive. My daughter has excellent printing, very neat and legible. She can print very fast and keeps up with all her notetaking in her high school courses, which my son assures me is quite a feat for her to accomplish. Her cursive is not as neat and takes her much longer to perform. We chose to work on cursive at home and not spend school time with that task. But she taught herself how to read cursive by opening notes from teachers and reading them before she got home, so she could announce " I have a note from Mrs. So and So but I am NOT in trouble! " ;-) Cheryl in VA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2001 Report Share Posted September 10, 2001 One thing I would like to post as a reminder to everyone. While I personally feel learning to write cursive is no longer necessary in our society, so to have children struggle with it seems a waste of time they could put to better use, I do think it is important to teach them to read cursive. Teachers put notes on boards in cursive, peers copy notes in cursive and people still write notes and letters to each other in cursive. My daughter has excellent printing, very neat and legible. She can print very fast and keeps up with all her notetaking in her high school courses, which my son assures me is quite a feat for her to accomplish. Her cursive is not as neat and takes her much longer to perform. We chose to work on cursive at home and not spend school time with that task. But she taught herself how to read cursive by opening notes from teachers and reading them before she got home, so she could announce " I have a note from Mrs. So and So but I am NOT in trouble! " ;-) Cheryl in VA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2001 Report Share Posted September 10, 2001 HWT program starts with upper case, then lower case printing and also does cursive. I agree about the reading, but I still can't read some people's cursive. Judi Re: Handwriting without tears One thing I would like to post as a reminder to everyone. While I personally feel learning to write cursive is no longer necessary in our society, so to have children struggle with it seems a waste of time they could put to better use, I do think it is important to teach them to read cursive. Teachers put notes on boards in cursive, peers copy notes in cursive and people still write notes and letters to each other in cursive. My daughter has excellent printing, very neat and legible. She can print very fast and keeps up with all her notetaking in her high school courses, which my son assures me is quite a feat for her to accomplish. Her cursive is not as neat and takes her much longer to perform. We chose to work on cursive at home and not spend school time with that task. But she taught herself how to read cursive by opening notes from teachers and reading them before she got home, so she could announce " I have a note from Mrs. So and So but I am NOT in trouble! " ;-) Cheryl in VA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2001 Report Share Posted September 10, 2001 HWT program starts with upper case, then lower case printing and also does cursive. I agree about the reading, but I still can't read some people's cursive. Judi Re: Handwriting without tears One thing I would like to post as a reminder to everyone. While I personally feel learning to write cursive is no longer necessary in our society, so to have children struggle with it seems a waste of time they could put to better use, I do think it is important to teach them to read cursive. Teachers put notes on boards in cursive, peers copy notes in cursive and people still write notes and letters to each other in cursive. My daughter has excellent printing, very neat and legible. She can print very fast and keeps up with all her notetaking in her high school courses, which my son assures me is quite a feat for her to accomplish. Her cursive is not as neat and takes her much longer to perform. We chose to work on cursive at home and not spend school time with that task. But she taught herself how to read cursive by opening notes from teachers and reading them before she got home, so she could announce " I have a note from Mrs. So and So but I am NOT in trouble! " ;-) Cheryl in VA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2001 Report Share Posted September 14, 2001 --- Rick Dill <rdill@...> wrote: > With respect to handwriting, I think we need to > revive patience. Jan > didn't really learn competent handwriting until her > late teens. Up to > that time, she did printing (first crudely and later > more reasonably) > and she used the computer. Yes it was many years > ago, but her > classrooms had an Apple or two with Bank Street > writer and at home she > had unsupervised access to an Atari 800 with > Atariwriter and later her > own PC Junior with Personal Editor. I just received a Dreamwriter from our district. We had it written into the IEP last spring that my son would need it for handwriting so the aid wouldn't need to write for him so much. He is in fifth grade and can write but it is laborous (sp?). Hoping to ge used to it this year in preparation for middle school. sissy __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews./fc/US/Emergency_Information/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 14, 2001 Report Share Posted September 14, 2001 --- Rick Dill <rdill@...> wrote: > With respect to handwriting, I think we need to > revive patience. Jan > didn't really learn competent handwriting until her > late teens. Up to > that time, she did printing (first crudely and later > more reasonably) > and she used the computer. Yes it was many years > ago, but her > classrooms had an Apple or two with Bank Street > writer and at home she > had unsupervised access to an Atari 800 with > Atariwriter and later her > own PC Junior with Personal Editor. I just received a Dreamwriter from our district. We had it written into the IEP last spring that my son would need it for handwriting so the aid wouldn't need to write for him so much. He is in fifth grade and can write but it is laborous (sp?). Hoping to ge used to it this year in preparation for middle school. sissy __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews./fc/US/Emergency_Information/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2002 Report Share Posted January 12, 2002 Anyone use the program " Handwriting Without Tears " ? I have seen this in a catalog I have for special needs, but it seems there are several things you have to purchase separately, like the " teacher's guide " , " Parents guide " , flashcards.....I'm confused. I just thought it was one book with a video or something.....oh, and there's a video you purchase separately too. Thanks for any help, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2002 Report Share Posted January 12, 2002 We used Handwriting Without Tears for a while. I got the Teacher's manual as well as the handwriting book for the kids. You can teach it without the Teacher's guide, because it shows the formation of the letters in the students book. The teacher's just has extra hints like how to sit, how to hold the paper. The biggest difference is they use the European method of lines (that's what they call it). They don't use the solid-dashed-solid lines like we do in America. They use to solid lines at the little x size. They say it's easier for the kids to get that right and it look ok. There's no line for the ascender and descender (like small " l " or " j " ). They have a pre-paper stage, that uses the wooden shapes. Then printing and then cursive. It worked well with when he wasn't a reader yet (like teaching his name). He's moved on to A Beka cursive. I do like the formation of the letter better, because they don't worry about teaching the slant right away. They worry about the formation then figure they can slant later. Gotta go, I hear my kids running around upstairs..... Loriann AKA Flitter the Christian clown Wife to Dewight Mom to , 11 years, Down Syndrome, PDD-NOS and Celiac Disease. , 2 years and Strong Willed and Celiac Disease Both homeschooled. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2002 Report Share Posted January 12, 2002 Sorry, but I haven't heard of it. --- Ltb3105@... wrote: > Anyone use the program " Handwriting Without Tears " ? > I have seen this in a > catalog I have for special needs, but it seems there > are several things you > have to purchase separately, like the " teacher's > guide " , " Parents guide " , > flashcards.....I'm confused. I just thought it was > one book with a video or > something.....oh, and there's a video you purchase > separately too. > > Thanks for any help, > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2002 Report Share Posted January 12, 2002 Hi , I haven't tried this program but have heard alot about it. We are using Sensible Pencil and it is having great success for Angel. Angel has amazingly great fine-motor skills which is great to begin with. hugs, Cheryl mom to Angel, 5, ds-asd > Anyone use the program " Handwriting Without Tears " ? I have seen this in a > catalog I have for special needs, but it seems there are several things you > have to purchase separately, like the " teacher's guide " , " Parents guide " , > flashcards.....I'm confused. I just thought it was one book with a video or > something.....oh, and there's a video you purchase separately too. > > Thanks for any help, > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2002 Report Share Posted January 13, 2002 laura, we used some of the approaches handwriting without tears uses...i went to a workshop on it... it does have wooden pieces used to shape and form the letters and workbooks, etc....but you can curtail it to sean's individual needs....the greatest thing we used that ashton liked was the small chalkboard and using hte sponge to erase the letters to learn their motions when writing.... we also used some of the suggestions from " fine motor skills in children with down syndrome " or something like that... and then went from there.... ashton writes her name neatly, but everything else she types now...she is 10 and i figure, technology is out there lets use it..... she is getting older and there are more important things we need to focus onto make her reach her potential as much as possible.... hope this helps...take care, leah >From: " farmyardgurl " <cmagnussen@...> >Reply- > >Subject: Re: Handwriting Without Tears >Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2002 03:28:26 -0000 > >Hi , >I haven't tried this program but have heard alot about it. We are >using Sensible Pencil and it is having great success for Angel. >Angel has amazingly great fine-motor skills which is great to begin >with. > >hugs, Cheryl >mom to Angel, 5, ds-asd > > > > > Anyone use the program " Handwriting Without Tears " ? I have seen >this in a > > catalog I have for special needs, but it seems there are several >things you > > have to purchase separately, like the " teacher's guide " , " Parents >guide " , > > flashcards.....I'm confused. I just thought it was one book with a >video or > > something.....oh, and there's a video you purchase separately too. > > > > Thanks for any help, > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2002 Report Share Posted January 13, 2002 In a message dated 1/13/02 4:23:46 AM Pacific Standard Time, writes: > Hi , > I haven't tried this program but have heard alot about it. We are > using Sensible Pencil and it is having great success for Angel. > Angel has amazingly great fine-motor skills which is great to begin > with. > > hugs, Cheryl > mom to Angel, 5, ds-asd > We use handwriting without tears for (13). He uses a slate board to write his letters. He is quite successful at generalizing that to paper. I'm very happy with it. has vision problems and has always hated fine motor activities. We just got the teachers manual. It tells what order to introduce the letters and how to have the child form the letter. The trick with the slate board is that the child makes the letter to fill the board. Ex. The letter E. On the slate board you start at upper left corner. Draw a line all the way down the left side. Then you go back to upper left corner and draw a line across the top of the slate board. Then you go to center of left side and draw a horizontal line. Go to the bottom left corner and draw a line across the bottom of the slate board. Tada!!! an E. Karyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2002 Report Share Posted January 13, 2002 In a message dated 1/13/02 10:51:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, KVanRyzin@... writes: > has vision problems and has always hated fine motor > Karyn, Does have any exercises that he does for the vision, hand eye coordination thing? I wonder if a Vision Therapist might be helpful in this area or if the OT is the primary therapist to help here. Diane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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