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Hi Joe ! I just read your letter, I am so sorry to hear that you are not

doing so well. I had my DS on 7-18 and I have lost 20 lbs thus far. You have

been such an encouragement to me and so many others. I was wondering what

happened to you. Well i will include you in my prayers. Just take it one day,

one meal at a time. Love Rose

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Hi Joe ! I just read your letter, I am so sorry to hear that you are not

doing so well. I had my DS on 7-18 and I have lost 20 lbs thus far. You have

been such an encouragement to me and so many others. I was wondering what

happened to you. Well i will include you in my prayers. Just take it one day,

one meal at a time. Love Rose

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Hi Joe ! I just read your letter, I am so sorry to hear that you are not

doing so well. I had my DS on 7-18 and I have lost 20 lbs thus far. You have

been such an encouragement to me and so many others. I was wondering what

happened to you. Well i will include you in my prayers. Just take it one day,

one meal at a time. Love Rose

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Hi Joe ! I just read your letter, I am so sorry to hear that you are not

doing so well. I had my DS on 7-18 and I have lost 20 lbs thus far. You have

been such an encouragement to me and so many others. I was wondering what

happened to you. Well i will include you in my prayers. Just take it one day,

one meal at a time. Love Rose

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Hi everyone -

Below, with permission, I have copied a post from Joe Frost. Some of you have

seen the post already, but some of you have not received it yet. As you will

see, Joe really needs all the positive thoughts, positive energy, prayers, and

chicken swinging we can muster.

In December and January, there were many of us that participated in a

candlelight vigil for Joe Frost and anyone else who was having complications at

that time. I am planning to start-up that vigil again -- each night at 10:00

p.m. EST. If you would like to join me in a nightly candlelight vigil with

meditation, thoughts, prayers for Joe and others who are currently having

problems, that would be fantastic. There is power in numbers, there's power in

positive thinking and there's definitely power in prayer. The love of Joy and

all the thoughts and prayers helped Joe pull through before, and I believe it

can again.

Rabecca still needs our thoughts and prayers, too, as she is healing from her

complications. Sharon (goldenlady) is still in rehab, and if you could include

her in the vigil, as well, that would be great. I'm sorry if I left anyone out

-- it was not intentional and if you have someone you would like to be included

in the candlelight vigil, please let us know. Another dear friend, Bonnie is

having a lot of emotional turmoil right now (she's 14 months post-op) and I'm

sure, would appreciate your thoughts as well.

Thank you for those of you who choose to participate in whatever manner and

belief you prefer.

Love,

Kris G

Cincinnati, Ohio

5'7 " , 40 years old

8/22 - 283 - BMI 44.3

7/22 - 141 - BMI 22.1

Reached goal set by Dr. of 147 at 9 months/3 wks.

ciao to 142 lbs. & 149.75 inches in 11 months

Open BPD/DS 08/22/00

Bowel obstruction surgery 4/21/01

Dr. Maguire, Kettering OH

HumanaFreedom Plus Plan

iwillbefit@...

http://www.newlifeteams.org

[WLS_duodenalswitch] Where I Am

Hi all. Joe Frost here.

I generally have a problem, find a cure and then in a solemn manner announce to

the groups how I've overcome adversity. But at the suggestion of a very dear

friend and prayer partner (whom I've never met) I'm taking the risk of sharing

this without having solved the problem. Why? I need prayer. Perhaps advice as

well but I think that prayer is far more important at this time in my life.

I'm in a really rotten place emotionally. I have just started taking Welbutrin

which worked pretty well for me a while back and I hope it will work this time

as well. I feel I'm between a rock and a hard place and intellectually know

this too will pass but emotionally feel I will never get back to the world of

the well.

As many of you know I have developed a severe protein deficiency. This is

partly due to the DS surgery itself which is designed to throw us into

malnutrition until we loose our needed weight. Then as our body adjusts to the

lesser absorption we reach a point of maintenance where we will stop losing

weight and become healthy but at a much lower point. Great idea. But the major

component of my illness is that I spent 5 weeks in ICU and 8 weeks on a feeding

tube and was burning what carbs I could ingest for energy. That wasn't enough

so I was also burning fat and finally protein. I lost lots of weight, 110

pounds to date. But I wound up with a protein level of 1.7. It is now back up

to 2.0 with a suggested MINIMUM of 3.4. Dr. Welker put me on Creon which

temporarily defeats the DS and causes me to absorb most of what I eat. I have

gained 15 pounds but have since lost 10 of that. And my protein is coming up

but very slowly.

I have severe edema of my ankles and feet. I have running sores on both ankles,

very serious on the right ankle. The Methodist Hospital Wound Clinic is putting

compression wraps on my legs twice a week. It is hot and I smell bad as all I

can take are sponge baths. And I am weak as a kitten and have no energy. It is

all I can do to sit on my now bony ass and let my fingers do the walking and

talking. Dr. Welker says that it is time for me to have my 10 " hernia without a

name closed. The hernia has gotten significantly worse in the last few weeks.

My entire guts hang out when I don't wear my binder. So I wear it 100% of the

time I'm awake. Dr. Welker also wants to do a panniculectomy. But he can't do

anything until I get the protein back up and the sores healed.

There are several things that scare me to death. Interestingly death is not one

of them. At times I feel that would be the " easy " way out. And it scares me

that I feel that way. I owe Joy, all post-ops who have prayed for me and all

the pre-ops more than that.

I am very afraid that we will never be able to travel in our RV again. I

absolutely love the travel but I haven't the strength to do the day to day stuff

that is required. The growing list of repairs needed to the RV is absolutely

overwhelming at the moment. Secondly I am afraid of never being able to SCUBA

dive and do underwater photography again. I also love this and ache to think of

losing it. But it also takes a substantial amount of effort and I just don't

see getting back there again. I do believe we will be able to go to and enjoy

figure skating competitions again if I just last long enough. Others do all the

work and while walking from the hotel room to the busses and then to the arena

seats is an effort I think I'll be able to do that.

So in summary I can't get my protein up. I can't get my surgery done. I have

no energy but that is fine because the doctors say I'm not supposed to exercise

because of my swelling and am supposed to eat as much as I can. Where were

those damned doctors when I wanted them? I am depressed over the perceived loss

of much of my beloved life style. Any wonder?

So please pray for me, that I come to know God's will for me at least. Thank

you.

Joe Frost, old gentleman, not old fart

San , Tx., 60 years old

Surgery 11/29/00 by Dr. Welker

Lateral Gastrectomy with Duodenal Switch

340 Starting Weight, currently 225

http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Patients/Joe/joe.html

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WLS-12StepRecovery

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Hi everyone -

Below, with permission, I have copied a post from Joe Frost. Some of you have

seen the post already, but some of you have not received it yet. As you will

see, Joe really needs all the positive thoughts, positive energy, prayers, and

chicken swinging we can muster.

In December and January, there were many of us that participated in a

candlelight vigil for Joe Frost and anyone else who was having complications at

that time. I am planning to start-up that vigil again -- each night at 10:00

p.m. EST. If you would like to join me in a nightly candlelight vigil with

meditation, thoughts, prayers for Joe and others who are currently having

problems, that would be fantastic. There is power in numbers, there's power in

positive thinking and there's definitely power in prayer. The love of Joy and

all the thoughts and prayers helped Joe pull through before, and I believe it

can again.

Rabecca still needs our thoughts and prayers, too, as she is healing from her

complications. Sharon (goldenlady) is still in rehab, and if you could include

her in the vigil, as well, that would be great. I'm sorry if I left anyone out

-- it was not intentional and if you have someone you would like to be included

in the candlelight vigil, please let us know. Another dear friend, Bonnie is

having a lot of emotional turmoil right now (she's 14 months post-op) and I'm

sure, would appreciate your thoughts as well.

Thank you for those of you who choose to participate in whatever manner and

belief you prefer.

Love,

Kris G

Cincinnati, Ohio

5'7 " , 40 years old

8/22 - 283 - BMI 44.3

7/22 - 141 - BMI 22.1

Reached goal set by Dr. of 147 at 9 months/3 wks.

ciao to 142 lbs. & 149.75 inches in 11 months

Open BPD/DS 08/22/00

Bowel obstruction surgery 4/21/01

Dr. Maguire, Kettering OH

HumanaFreedom Plus Plan

iwillbefit@...

http://www.newlifeteams.org

[WLS_duodenalswitch] Where I Am

Hi all. Joe Frost here.

I generally have a problem, find a cure and then in a solemn manner announce to

the groups how I've overcome adversity. But at the suggestion of a very dear

friend and prayer partner (whom I've never met) I'm taking the risk of sharing

this without having solved the problem. Why? I need prayer. Perhaps advice as

well but I think that prayer is far more important at this time in my life.

I'm in a really rotten place emotionally. I have just started taking Welbutrin

which worked pretty well for me a while back and I hope it will work this time

as well. I feel I'm between a rock and a hard place and intellectually know

this too will pass but emotionally feel I will never get back to the world of

the well.

As many of you know I have developed a severe protein deficiency. This is

partly due to the DS surgery itself which is designed to throw us into

malnutrition until we loose our needed weight. Then as our body adjusts to the

lesser absorption we reach a point of maintenance where we will stop losing

weight and become healthy but at a much lower point. Great idea. But the major

component of my illness is that I spent 5 weeks in ICU and 8 weeks on a feeding

tube and was burning what carbs I could ingest for energy. That wasn't enough

so I was also burning fat and finally protein. I lost lots of weight, 110

pounds to date. But I wound up with a protein level of 1.7. It is now back up

to 2.0 with a suggested MINIMUM of 3.4. Dr. Welker put me on Creon which

temporarily defeats the DS and causes me to absorb most of what I eat. I have

gained 15 pounds but have since lost 10 of that. And my protein is coming up

but very slowly.

I have severe edema of my ankles and feet. I have running sores on both ankles,

very serious on the right ankle. The Methodist Hospital Wound Clinic is putting

compression wraps on my legs twice a week. It is hot and I smell bad as all I

can take are sponge baths. And I am weak as a kitten and have no energy. It is

all I can do to sit on my now bony ass and let my fingers do the walking and

talking. Dr. Welker says that it is time for me to have my 10 " hernia without a

name closed. The hernia has gotten significantly worse in the last few weeks.

My entire guts hang out when I don't wear my binder. So I wear it 100% of the

time I'm awake. Dr. Welker also wants to do a panniculectomy. But he can't do

anything until I get the protein back up and the sores healed.

There are several things that scare me to death. Interestingly death is not one

of them. At times I feel that would be the " easy " way out. And it scares me

that I feel that way. I owe Joy, all post-ops who have prayed for me and all

the pre-ops more than that.

I am very afraid that we will never be able to travel in our RV again. I

absolutely love the travel but I haven't the strength to do the day to day stuff

that is required. The growing list of repairs needed to the RV is absolutely

overwhelming at the moment. Secondly I am afraid of never being able to SCUBA

dive and do underwater photography again. I also love this and ache to think of

losing it. But it also takes a substantial amount of effort and I just don't

see getting back there again. I do believe we will be able to go to and enjoy

figure skating competitions again if I just last long enough. Others do all the

work and while walking from the hotel room to the busses and then to the arena

seats is an effort I think I'll be able to do that.

So in summary I can't get my protein up. I can't get my surgery done. I have

no energy but that is fine because the doctors say I'm not supposed to exercise

because of my swelling and am supposed to eat as much as I can. Where were

those damned doctors when I wanted them? I am depressed over the perceived loss

of much of my beloved life style. Any wonder?

So please pray for me, that I come to know God's will for me at least. Thank

you.

Joe Frost, old gentleman, not old fart

San , Tx., 60 years old

Surgery 11/29/00 by Dr. Welker

Lateral Gastrectomy with Duodenal Switch

340 Starting Weight, currently 225

http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Patients/Joe/joe.html

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WLS-12StepRecovery

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Hi Joe,

I'm so sorry to hear your troubles. I want to let you know that you

and Joy are in my thoughts and prayers. I've read about your

problems and feel so bad for what happened to you. You do give us

pre-ops and post-ops such good advice and I appreciate your words of

knowledge and encouragement. I chatted with Joy a couple of times

and she is such a nice, caring lady as well. You both are such good

people. I'm sure that with all of the prayers and positive thoughts

coming your way, things will get better. Take care of yourself and

rest assured that there are lots of us all over the country (maybe

even the world!) adding you to our prayers. Take care, Carol (eagle)

> Hi everyone -

>

> Below, with permission, I have copied a post from Joe Frost. Some

of you have seen the post already, but some of you have not received

it yet. As you will see, Joe really needs all the positive thoughts,

positive energy, prayers, and chicken swinging we can muster.

>

> In December and January, there were many of us that participated in

a candlelight vigil for Joe Frost and anyone else who was having

complications at that time. I am planning to start-up that vigil

again -- each night at 10:00 p.m. EST. If you would like to join me

in a nightly candlelight vigil with meditation, thoughts, prayers for

Joe and others who are currently having problems, that would be

fantastic. There is power in numbers, there's power in positive

thinking and there's definitely power in prayer. The love of Joy and

all the thoughts and prayers helped Joe pull through before, and I

believe it can again.

>

> Rabecca still needs our thoughts and prayers, too, as she is

healing from her complications. Sharon (goldenlady) is still in

rehab, and if you could include her in the vigil, as well, that would

be great. I'm sorry if I left anyone out -- it was not intentional

and if you have someone you would like to be included in the

candlelight vigil, please let us know. Another dear friend, Bonnie

is having a lot of emotional turmoil right now (she's 14 months post-

op) and I'm sure, would appreciate your thoughts as well.

>

> Thank you for those of you who choose to participate in whatever

manner and belief you prefer.

>

> Love,

> Kris G

> Cincinnati, Ohio

> 5'7 " , 40 years old

> 8/22 - 283 - BMI 44.3

> 7/22 - 141 - BMI 22.1

> Reached goal set by Dr. of 147 at 9 months/3 wks.

> ciao to 142 lbs. & 149.75 inches in 11 months

> Open BPD/DS 08/22/00

> Bowel obstruction surgery 4/21/01

> Dr. Maguire, Kettering OH

> HumanaFreedom Plus Plan

> iwillbefit@y...

> http://www.newlifeteams.org

> [WLS_duodenalswitch] Where I Am

>

>

> Hi all. Joe Frost here.

>

> I generally have a problem, find a cure and then in a solemn manner

announce to the groups how I've overcome adversity. But at the

suggestion of a very dear friend and prayer partner (whom I've never

met) I'm taking the risk of sharing this without having solved the

problem. Why? I need prayer. Perhaps advice as well but I think

that prayer is far more important at this time in my life.

>

> I'm in a really rotten place emotionally. I have just started

taking Welbutrin which worked pretty well for me a while back and I

hope it will work this time as well. I feel I'm between a rock and a

hard place and intellectually know this too will pass but emotionally

feel I will never get back to the world of the well.

>

> As many of you know I have developed a severe protein deficiency.

This is partly due to the DS surgery itself which is designed to

throw us into malnutrition until we loose our needed weight. Then as

our body adjusts to the lesser absorption we reach a point of

maintenance where we will stop losing weight and become healthy but

at a much lower point. Great idea. But the major component of my

illness is that I spent 5 weeks in ICU and 8 weeks on a feeding tube

and was burning what carbs I could ingest for energy. That wasn't

enough so I was also burning fat and finally protein. I lost lots of

weight, 110 pounds to date. But I wound up with a protein level of

1.7. It is now back up to 2.0 with a suggested MINIMUM of 3.4. Dr.

Welker put me on Creon which temporarily defeats the DS and causes me

to absorb most of what I eat. I have gained 15 pounds but have since

lost 10 of that. And my protein is coming up but very slowly.

>

> I have severe edema of my ankles and feet. I have running sores on

both ankles, very serious on the right ankle. The Methodist Hospital

Wound Clinic is putting compression wraps on my legs twice a week.

It is hot and I smell bad as all I can take are sponge baths. And I

am weak as a kitten and have no energy. It is all I can do to sit on

my now bony ass and let my fingers do the walking and talking. Dr.

Welker says that it is time for me to have my 10 " hernia without a

name closed. The hernia has gotten significantly worse in the last

few weeks. My entire guts hang out when I don't wear my binder. So

I wear it 100% of the time I'm awake. Dr. Welker also wants to do a

panniculectomy. But he can't do anything until I get the protein

back up and the sores healed.

>

> There are several things that scare me to death. Interestingly

death is not one of them. At times I feel that would be the " easy "

way out. And it scares me that I feel that way. I owe Joy, all post-

ops who have prayed for me and all the pre-ops more than that.

>

> I am very afraid that we will never be able to travel in our RV

again. I absolutely love the travel but I haven't the strength to do

the day to day stuff that is required. The growing list of repairs

needed to the RV is absolutely overwhelming at the moment. Secondly

I am afraid of never being able to SCUBA dive and do underwater

photography again. I also love this and ache to think of losing it.

But it also takes a substantial amount of effort and I just don't see

getting back there again. I do believe we will be able to go to and

enjoy figure skating competitions again if I just last long enough.

Others do all the work and while walking from the hotel room to the

busses and then to the arena seats is an effort I think I'll be able

to do that.

>

> So in summary I can't get my protein up. I can't get my surgery

done. I have no energy but that is fine because the doctors say I'm

not supposed to exercise because of my swelling and am supposed to

eat as much as I can. Where were those damned doctors when I wanted

them? I am depressed over the perceived loss of much of my beloved

life style. Any wonder?

>

> So please pray for me, that I come to know God's will for me at

least. Thank you.

>

> Joe Frost, old gentleman, not old fart

> San , Tx., 60 years old

> Surgery 11/29/00 by Dr. Welker

> Lateral Gastrectomy with Duodenal Switch

> 340 Starting Weight, currently 225

> http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Patients/Joe/joe.html

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WLS-12StepRecovery

>

>

>

>

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Hi Joe,

I'm so sorry to hear your troubles. I want to let you know that you

and Joy are in my thoughts and prayers. I've read about your

problems and feel so bad for what happened to you. You do give us

pre-ops and post-ops such good advice and I appreciate your words of

knowledge and encouragement. I chatted with Joy a couple of times

and she is such a nice, caring lady as well. You both are such good

people. I'm sure that with all of the prayers and positive thoughts

coming your way, things will get better. Take care of yourself and

rest assured that there are lots of us all over the country (maybe

even the world!) adding you to our prayers. Take care, Carol (eagle)

> Hi everyone -

>

> Below, with permission, I have copied a post from Joe Frost. Some

of you have seen the post already, but some of you have not received

it yet. As you will see, Joe really needs all the positive thoughts,

positive energy, prayers, and chicken swinging we can muster.

>

> In December and January, there were many of us that participated in

a candlelight vigil for Joe Frost and anyone else who was having

complications at that time. I am planning to start-up that vigil

again -- each night at 10:00 p.m. EST. If you would like to join me

in a nightly candlelight vigil with meditation, thoughts, prayers for

Joe and others who are currently having problems, that would be

fantastic. There is power in numbers, there's power in positive

thinking and there's definitely power in prayer. The love of Joy and

all the thoughts and prayers helped Joe pull through before, and I

believe it can again.

>

> Rabecca still needs our thoughts and prayers, too, as she is

healing from her complications. Sharon (goldenlady) is still in

rehab, and if you could include her in the vigil, as well, that would

be great. I'm sorry if I left anyone out -- it was not intentional

and if you have someone you would like to be included in the

candlelight vigil, please let us know. Another dear friend, Bonnie

is having a lot of emotional turmoil right now (she's 14 months post-

op) and I'm sure, would appreciate your thoughts as well.

>

> Thank you for those of you who choose to participate in whatever

manner and belief you prefer.

>

> Love,

> Kris G

> Cincinnati, Ohio

> 5'7 " , 40 years old

> 8/22 - 283 - BMI 44.3

> 7/22 - 141 - BMI 22.1

> Reached goal set by Dr. of 147 at 9 months/3 wks.

> ciao to 142 lbs. & 149.75 inches in 11 months

> Open BPD/DS 08/22/00

> Bowel obstruction surgery 4/21/01

> Dr. Maguire, Kettering OH

> HumanaFreedom Plus Plan

> iwillbefit@y...

> http://www.newlifeteams.org

> [WLS_duodenalswitch] Where I Am

>

>

> Hi all. Joe Frost here.

>

> I generally have a problem, find a cure and then in a solemn manner

announce to the groups how I've overcome adversity. But at the

suggestion of a very dear friend and prayer partner (whom I've never

met) I'm taking the risk of sharing this without having solved the

problem. Why? I need prayer. Perhaps advice as well but I think

that prayer is far more important at this time in my life.

>

> I'm in a really rotten place emotionally. I have just started

taking Welbutrin which worked pretty well for me a while back and I

hope it will work this time as well. I feel I'm between a rock and a

hard place and intellectually know this too will pass but emotionally

feel I will never get back to the world of the well.

>

> As many of you know I have developed a severe protein deficiency.

This is partly due to the DS surgery itself which is designed to

throw us into malnutrition until we loose our needed weight. Then as

our body adjusts to the lesser absorption we reach a point of

maintenance where we will stop losing weight and become healthy but

at a much lower point. Great idea. But the major component of my

illness is that I spent 5 weeks in ICU and 8 weeks on a feeding tube

and was burning what carbs I could ingest for energy. That wasn't

enough so I was also burning fat and finally protein. I lost lots of

weight, 110 pounds to date. But I wound up with a protein level of

1.7. It is now back up to 2.0 with a suggested MINIMUM of 3.4. Dr.

Welker put me on Creon which temporarily defeats the DS and causes me

to absorb most of what I eat. I have gained 15 pounds but have since

lost 10 of that. And my protein is coming up but very slowly.

>

> I have severe edema of my ankles and feet. I have running sores on

both ankles, very serious on the right ankle. The Methodist Hospital

Wound Clinic is putting compression wraps on my legs twice a week.

It is hot and I smell bad as all I can take are sponge baths. And I

am weak as a kitten and have no energy. It is all I can do to sit on

my now bony ass and let my fingers do the walking and talking. Dr.

Welker says that it is time for me to have my 10 " hernia without a

name closed. The hernia has gotten significantly worse in the last

few weeks. My entire guts hang out when I don't wear my binder. So

I wear it 100% of the time I'm awake. Dr. Welker also wants to do a

panniculectomy. But he can't do anything until I get the protein

back up and the sores healed.

>

> There are several things that scare me to death. Interestingly

death is not one of them. At times I feel that would be the " easy "

way out. And it scares me that I feel that way. I owe Joy, all post-

ops who have prayed for me and all the pre-ops more than that.

>

> I am very afraid that we will never be able to travel in our RV

again. I absolutely love the travel but I haven't the strength to do

the day to day stuff that is required. The growing list of repairs

needed to the RV is absolutely overwhelming at the moment. Secondly

I am afraid of never being able to SCUBA dive and do underwater

photography again. I also love this and ache to think of losing it.

But it also takes a substantial amount of effort and I just don't see

getting back there again. I do believe we will be able to go to and

enjoy figure skating competitions again if I just last long enough.

Others do all the work and while walking from the hotel room to the

busses and then to the arena seats is an effort I think I'll be able

to do that.

>

> So in summary I can't get my protein up. I can't get my surgery

done. I have no energy but that is fine because the doctors say I'm

not supposed to exercise because of my swelling and am supposed to

eat as much as I can. Where were those damned doctors when I wanted

them? I am depressed over the perceived loss of much of my beloved

life style. Any wonder?

>

> So please pray for me, that I come to know God's will for me at

least. Thank you.

>

> Joe Frost, old gentleman, not old fart

> San , Tx., 60 years old

> Surgery 11/29/00 by Dr. Welker

> Lateral Gastrectomy with Duodenal Switch

> 340 Starting Weight, currently 225

> http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Patients/Joe/joe.html

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WLS-12StepRecovery

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Joe,

I'm so sorry to hear your troubles. I want to let you know that you

and Joy are in my thoughts and prayers. I've read about your

problems and feel so bad for what happened to you. You do give us

pre-ops and post-ops such good advice and I appreciate your words of

knowledge and encouragement. I chatted with Joy a couple of times

and she is such a nice, caring lady as well. You both are such good

people. I'm sure that with all of the prayers and positive thoughts

coming your way, things will get better. Take care of yourself and

rest assured that there are lots of us all over the country (maybe

even the world!) adding you to our prayers. Take care, Carol (eagle)

> Hi everyone -

>

> Below, with permission, I have copied a post from Joe Frost. Some

of you have seen the post already, but some of you have not received

it yet. As you will see, Joe really needs all the positive thoughts,

positive energy, prayers, and chicken swinging we can muster.

>

> In December and January, there were many of us that participated in

a candlelight vigil for Joe Frost and anyone else who was having

complications at that time. I am planning to start-up that vigil

again -- each night at 10:00 p.m. EST. If you would like to join me

in a nightly candlelight vigil with meditation, thoughts, prayers for

Joe and others who are currently having problems, that would be

fantastic. There is power in numbers, there's power in positive

thinking and there's definitely power in prayer. The love of Joy and

all the thoughts and prayers helped Joe pull through before, and I

believe it can again.

>

> Rabecca still needs our thoughts and prayers, too, as she is

healing from her complications. Sharon (goldenlady) is still in

rehab, and if you could include her in the vigil, as well, that would

be great. I'm sorry if I left anyone out -- it was not intentional

and if you have someone you would like to be included in the

candlelight vigil, please let us know. Another dear friend, Bonnie

is having a lot of emotional turmoil right now (she's 14 months post-

op) and I'm sure, would appreciate your thoughts as well.

>

> Thank you for those of you who choose to participate in whatever

manner and belief you prefer.

>

> Love,

> Kris G

> Cincinnati, Ohio

> 5'7 " , 40 years old

> 8/22 - 283 - BMI 44.3

> 7/22 - 141 - BMI 22.1

> Reached goal set by Dr. of 147 at 9 months/3 wks.

> ciao to 142 lbs. & 149.75 inches in 11 months

> Open BPD/DS 08/22/00

> Bowel obstruction surgery 4/21/01

> Dr. Maguire, Kettering OH

> HumanaFreedom Plus Plan

> iwillbefit@y...

> http://www.newlifeteams.org

> [WLS_duodenalswitch] Where I Am

>

>

> Hi all. Joe Frost here.

>

> I generally have a problem, find a cure and then in a solemn manner

announce to the groups how I've overcome adversity. But at the

suggestion of a very dear friend and prayer partner (whom I've never

met) I'm taking the risk of sharing this without having solved the

problem. Why? I need prayer. Perhaps advice as well but I think

that prayer is far more important at this time in my life.

>

> I'm in a really rotten place emotionally. I have just started

taking Welbutrin which worked pretty well for me a while back and I

hope it will work this time as well. I feel I'm between a rock and a

hard place and intellectually know this too will pass but emotionally

feel I will never get back to the world of the well.

>

> As many of you know I have developed a severe protein deficiency.

This is partly due to the DS surgery itself which is designed to

throw us into malnutrition until we loose our needed weight. Then as

our body adjusts to the lesser absorption we reach a point of

maintenance where we will stop losing weight and become healthy but

at a much lower point. Great idea. But the major component of my

illness is that I spent 5 weeks in ICU and 8 weeks on a feeding tube

and was burning what carbs I could ingest for energy. That wasn't

enough so I was also burning fat and finally protein. I lost lots of

weight, 110 pounds to date. But I wound up with a protein level of

1.7. It is now back up to 2.0 with a suggested MINIMUM of 3.4. Dr.

Welker put me on Creon which temporarily defeats the DS and causes me

to absorb most of what I eat. I have gained 15 pounds but have since

lost 10 of that. And my protein is coming up but very slowly.

>

> I have severe edema of my ankles and feet. I have running sores on

both ankles, very serious on the right ankle. The Methodist Hospital

Wound Clinic is putting compression wraps on my legs twice a week.

It is hot and I smell bad as all I can take are sponge baths. And I

am weak as a kitten and have no energy. It is all I can do to sit on

my now bony ass and let my fingers do the walking and talking. Dr.

Welker says that it is time for me to have my 10 " hernia without a

name closed. The hernia has gotten significantly worse in the last

few weeks. My entire guts hang out when I don't wear my binder. So

I wear it 100% of the time I'm awake. Dr. Welker also wants to do a

panniculectomy. But he can't do anything until I get the protein

back up and the sores healed.

>

> There are several things that scare me to death. Interestingly

death is not one of them. At times I feel that would be the " easy "

way out. And it scares me that I feel that way. I owe Joy, all post-

ops who have prayed for me and all the pre-ops more than that.

>

> I am very afraid that we will never be able to travel in our RV

again. I absolutely love the travel but I haven't the strength to do

the day to day stuff that is required. The growing list of repairs

needed to the RV is absolutely overwhelming at the moment. Secondly

I am afraid of never being able to SCUBA dive and do underwater

photography again. I also love this and ache to think of losing it.

But it also takes a substantial amount of effort and I just don't see

getting back there again. I do believe we will be able to go to and

enjoy figure skating competitions again if I just last long enough.

Others do all the work and while walking from the hotel room to the

busses and then to the arena seats is an effort I think I'll be able

to do that.

>

> So in summary I can't get my protein up. I can't get my surgery

done. I have no energy but that is fine because the doctors say I'm

not supposed to exercise because of my swelling and am supposed to

eat as much as I can. Where were those damned doctors when I wanted

them? I am depressed over the perceived loss of much of my beloved

life style. Any wonder?

>

> So please pray for me, that I come to know God's will for me at

least. Thank you.

>

> Joe Frost, old gentleman, not old fart

> San , Tx., 60 years old

> Surgery 11/29/00 by Dr. Welker

> Lateral Gastrectomy with Duodenal Switch

> 340 Starting Weight, currently 225

> http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Patients/Joe/joe.html

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WLS-12StepRecovery

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Hi Joe,

I'm so sorry to hear your troubles. I want to let you know that you

and Joy are in my thoughts and prayers. I've read about your

problems and feel so bad for what happened to you. You do give us

pre-ops and post-ops such good advice and I appreciate your words of

knowledge and encouragement. I chatted with Joy a couple of times

and she is such a nice, caring lady as well. You both are such good

people. I'm sure that with all of the prayers and positive thoughts

coming your way, things will get better. Take care of yourself and

rest assured that there are lots of us all over the country (maybe

even the world!) adding you to our prayers. Take care, Carol (eagle)

> Hi everyone -

>

> Below, with permission, I have copied a post from Joe Frost. Some

of you have seen the post already, but some of you have not received

it yet. As you will see, Joe really needs all the positive thoughts,

positive energy, prayers, and chicken swinging we can muster.

>

> In December and January, there were many of us that participated in

a candlelight vigil for Joe Frost and anyone else who was having

complications at that time. I am planning to start-up that vigil

again -- each night at 10:00 p.m. EST. If you would like to join me

in a nightly candlelight vigil with meditation, thoughts, prayers for

Joe and others who are currently having problems, that would be

fantastic. There is power in numbers, there's power in positive

thinking and there's definitely power in prayer. The love of Joy and

all the thoughts and prayers helped Joe pull through before, and I

believe it can again.

>

> Rabecca still needs our thoughts and prayers, too, as she is

healing from her complications. Sharon (goldenlady) is still in

rehab, and if you could include her in the vigil, as well, that would

be great. I'm sorry if I left anyone out -- it was not intentional

and if you have someone you would like to be included in the

candlelight vigil, please let us know. Another dear friend, Bonnie

is having a lot of emotional turmoil right now (she's 14 months post-

op) and I'm sure, would appreciate your thoughts as well.

>

> Thank you for those of you who choose to participate in whatever

manner and belief you prefer.

>

> Love,

> Kris G

> Cincinnati, Ohio

> 5'7 " , 40 years old

> 8/22 - 283 - BMI 44.3

> 7/22 - 141 - BMI 22.1

> Reached goal set by Dr. of 147 at 9 months/3 wks.

> ciao to 142 lbs. & 149.75 inches in 11 months

> Open BPD/DS 08/22/00

> Bowel obstruction surgery 4/21/01

> Dr. Maguire, Kettering OH

> HumanaFreedom Plus Plan

> iwillbefit@y...

> http://www.newlifeteams.org

> [WLS_duodenalswitch] Where I Am

>

>

> Hi all. Joe Frost here.

>

> I generally have a problem, find a cure and then in a solemn manner

announce to the groups how I've overcome adversity. But at the

suggestion of a very dear friend and prayer partner (whom I've never

met) I'm taking the risk of sharing this without having solved the

problem. Why? I need prayer. Perhaps advice as well but I think

that prayer is far more important at this time in my life.

>

> I'm in a really rotten place emotionally. I have just started

taking Welbutrin which worked pretty well for me a while back and I

hope it will work this time as well. I feel I'm between a rock and a

hard place and intellectually know this too will pass but emotionally

feel I will never get back to the world of the well.

>

> As many of you know I have developed a severe protein deficiency.

This is partly due to the DS surgery itself which is designed to

throw us into malnutrition until we loose our needed weight. Then as

our body adjusts to the lesser absorption we reach a point of

maintenance where we will stop losing weight and become healthy but

at a much lower point. Great idea. But the major component of my

illness is that I spent 5 weeks in ICU and 8 weeks on a feeding tube

and was burning what carbs I could ingest for energy. That wasn't

enough so I was also burning fat and finally protein. I lost lots of

weight, 110 pounds to date. But I wound up with a protein level of

1.7. It is now back up to 2.0 with a suggested MINIMUM of 3.4. Dr.

Welker put me on Creon which temporarily defeats the DS and causes me

to absorb most of what I eat. I have gained 15 pounds but have since

lost 10 of that. And my protein is coming up but very slowly.

>

> I have severe edema of my ankles and feet. I have running sores on

both ankles, very serious on the right ankle. The Methodist Hospital

Wound Clinic is putting compression wraps on my legs twice a week.

It is hot and I smell bad as all I can take are sponge baths. And I

am weak as a kitten and have no energy. It is all I can do to sit on

my now bony ass and let my fingers do the walking and talking. Dr.

Welker says that it is time for me to have my 10 " hernia without a

name closed. The hernia has gotten significantly worse in the last

few weeks. My entire guts hang out when I don't wear my binder. So

I wear it 100% of the time I'm awake. Dr. Welker also wants to do a

panniculectomy. But he can't do anything until I get the protein

back up and the sores healed.

>

> There are several things that scare me to death. Interestingly

death is not one of them. At times I feel that would be the " easy "

way out. And it scares me that I feel that way. I owe Joy, all post-

ops who have prayed for me and all the pre-ops more than that.

>

> I am very afraid that we will never be able to travel in our RV

again. I absolutely love the travel but I haven't the strength to do

the day to day stuff that is required. The growing list of repairs

needed to the RV is absolutely overwhelming at the moment. Secondly

I am afraid of never being able to SCUBA dive and do underwater

photography again. I also love this and ache to think of losing it.

But it also takes a substantial amount of effort and I just don't see

getting back there again. I do believe we will be able to go to and

enjoy figure skating competitions again if I just last long enough.

Others do all the work and while walking from the hotel room to the

busses and then to the arena seats is an effort I think I'll be able

to do that.

>

> So in summary I can't get my protein up. I can't get my surgery

done. I have no energy but that is fine because the doctors say I'm

not supposed to exercise because of my swelling and am supposed to

eat as much as I can. Where were those damned doctors when I wanted

them? I am depressed over the perceived loss of much of my beloved

life style. Any wonder?

>

> So please pray for me, that I come to know God's will for me at

least. Thank you.

>

> Joe Frost, old gentleman, not old fart

> San , Tx., 60 years old

> Surgery 11/29/00 by Dr. Welker

> Lateral Gastrectomy with Duodenal Switch

> 340 Starting Weight, currently 225

> http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Patients/Joe/joe.html

> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/WLS-12StepRecovery

>

>

>

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