Re: bottled water-- WARNING: ?political issue

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I still do use bottled water for work, as we have no water cooler, and when I am away from home. When on vacation this year, my friend told me that the water down the shore wasn't safe for people with immune problems. That may or may not have been me, but why take a chance??

At home, I have a PUR water filter on my kitchen tap and a Brita filter pitcher in my fridge at all times. I just tastes better and I use filtered water for all ice, cooking etc. Even my dogs, most of the time. Our local water tastes like a swimming pool... Bonnie BSee what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.

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Rose I totally agree with you. I also use filtered water, to help out the environment. I am all for going green.

Love to ya,

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Bonnie, I didn't mean to imply we should never use bottled water. I know there are times when it's difficult or impossible to use our own water. And even the filtration pitcher deal may be too hard for many. I just hate to see people buying cases of water at the store, tossing the bottles in the trash, the street, even the river. I love my cousin Lulu dearly, but for the ten days she was here with her kids, they went through dozens of bottles of water & persisted in throwing them in the trash, even though I put a cardboard box right in the kitchen. Most of us think that our little load of recycling won't really make a difference, not considering that when you multiple that by hundreds of thousands of families, that's tons of stuff kept out of landfills. Okay, I'm done!

Ramblin' RoseModerator A merry heart is good medicine. Proverbs 17:22

To: Neurosarcoidosis From: quiltenbe@...Date: Tue, 25 Sep 2007 19:12:20 -0400Subject: Re: bottled water-- WARNING: ?political issue

I still do use bottled water for work, as we have no water cooler, and when I am away from home. When on vacation this year, my friend told me that the water down the shore wasn't safe for people with immune problems. That may or may not have been me, but why take a chance??

At home, I have a PUR water filter on my kitchen tap and a Brita filter pitcher in my fridge at all times. I just tastes better and I use filtered water for all ice, cooking etc. Even my dogs, most of the time. Our local water tastes like a swimming pool... Bonnie B

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Rose,

Before you get your panties in a bunch, I should have said in my email

that I recycle my cans, bottles, newspapers, etc. I did try the pitcher

and all I got was water with carbon floating in it. That is why I want

the filter for the faucet. Maybe I wouldn't get as much carbon that

way. I know it is harmless but it isn't pretty when you serve someone

black water.

I started drinking bottled water when they added chloromine on top of

the chorine and you could smell it when you turned the tap on. I am

careful not to reuse the bottles and I know the plastic can leach into

water if it is objected to heat ie -getting hot in the car.

I have to wait until Steve comes back from Hawaii because we have an

adapter on our kitchen faucet to fit the portable dishwasher so now I

have to get him to look at it and see if both can go on the water

faucet. BTW, my ice is filtered in the icemaker so it doesn't make my

drink taste like el crappo.

So don't worry, I worry about these things. I am thinking about

starting my own compost in the spring so that would cut down on the

garbage that goes in the landfill.

Terri G.

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I use zephyrhills home delivery service. They bring the 5 gallon jugs (they do recycle). We just can't stand the odor and taste of the county water (too much chlorine). What I did notice was that my daughter and I both stopped with the GI distress after using bottled water for awhile. But we do recycle in other ways...plus as I said the 5 gallon jugs are recycled through their company (we pay a deposit on each jug).quiltenbe@... wrote: I still do use bottled water for work, as we

have no water cooler, and when I am away from home. When on vacation this year, my friend told me that the water down the shore wasn't safe for people with immune problems. That may or may not have been me, but why take a chance?? At home, I have a PUR water filter on my kitchen tap and a Brita filter pitcher in my fridge at all times. I just tastes better and I use filtered water for all ice, cooking etc. Even my dogs, most of the time. Our local water tastes like a swimming pool... Bonnie BSee what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.

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well, I'm fortunate that our local trash people take our recycled bottles and cans, as well as paper goods, etc. We also recycle at work. So, even though I use these bottles, I always recycle. If I am somewhere where there isn't any, I bring my bottle home> bonniebSee what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage.

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My husband and both of my sons have worked, at different times, at the recycling center near our town. We used to recycle. Since I've been ill it has been a battle between my husband and myself. WE just can't do it anymore. He has Asperger's syndrome and is obsessive about these types of things. When I needed him... he would be emptying the garbage on the floor to take out the cans and bottles and they would be piling up all over the kitchen, in his bedroom, etc. I had to put my foot down and say no more recycling. We just didn't have the time or energy to be messing around with it when I was ill and needed help getting

into the shower and he was in the basement putting cans in bags. It was too much. Our water is nasty and I don't have the energy to be messing with filters, etc. We put one on the faucet and the taste barely changed. Bottled water is a necessity. I fill up 5 bottles with one canister of Crystal lite divided between them and that is my fluid for the day. All I want to mess with on that. Plain water doesn't sit right with my gut and I also know I've had my water for the day. I can't feel guilty about it. I am just trying to get through my day with as little pain as possible and still try to maintain some kindof lifestyle of comfort and some creativity. I believe in 'green' and global warming and all that BUT I am not active in that battle right now. I am in a different battle trying to hang on to my sanity and some measure of health. BTW two days ago one of my older

brothers(I have seven...) had a heart attack and was flown flight for life to St. Lukes and had a 6 way by-pass yesterday. He passed out last November and were supposedly running some tests on him. HOW did they miss this?!? At first I was in shock cuz he was supposed to be having all these tests over this whole year and now I am just angry...Can you tell???.... Another one of my brothers is driving himself and his wife to CA to see a neurologist about her severe migraines. She is a Doc herself but hasn't worked for ten years or so cuz of these headaches. They live in Chicago. It drives me nuts to think they have to see a specialist so far away when they live in such a huge metropolitan area. Also...my nephew-in-law's brain tumor has taken a turn for the worse. It is inoperable so they don't know for sure what it even is. I haven't been feeling too well the last two weeks and finding out

this stuff over the last two days isn't helping. One my neices has shingles, too. AAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! She's only 27 with three kids. ANy prayers would be appreciated. hugs S. Rose wrote: I

accidentally sent this message before I finished it, so this is actually the complete message. I don't want this to become a divisive issue on the list, so if anyone who wants to debate this with me, email me privately at mamadogrose (AT) hotmail (DOT) com. First off, I want to say that I am not a radical environmentalist, but I do try to help reduce my household waste & I definitely try to save money. This message started out as a simple suggestion & turned into more of a political issue, perhaps. We've had an ongoing struggle with a landfill issue here, so I guess that has influenced my choices.Terri, I use a filtering pitcher, not so much because I'm worried about water quality, but because the filtered water definitely tastes better. I have 3 gallon milk jugs that I fill with filtered water. I use it for drinking, making tea, coffee,

Koolaid, etc. I don't use it for ice cubes; I haven't noticed a difference as the ice melts & since I drink a lot of ice water, I'd be making filtered water all the time. As it is, about once a week, I fill my 3 jugs, when I'm working in the kitchen anyway. It takes about half an hour of filling the pitcher, letting the water filter through, pouring into the jugs, refilling the pitcher. Then I keep the pitcher in the fridge. My grandkids drink a lot of water, which makes me happy. I have a 1-liter reusable sports bottle with an insulated holder. I fill it half-way & keep it in the freezer, then fill to the top to take with me. If I'm going to be gone for several hours, I use a half-gallon insulated jug with a shoulder strap. It really doesn't take much time or energy, and I know it saves me money, even without considering the environmental impact. I only have to buy filters a couple of times a year & they are inexpensive. I'm not willing to spend money buying bottled water, especially since recent reports indicate that most bottled water, even expensive brands, is basically just tap water. I also worry about all those bottles going to landfills. Only about 15% of them are recycled & they don't degrade. For those interested in more info, here are a few websites:http://www.pmmag.com/CDA/Articles/Feature_Article/BNP_GUID_9-5-2006_A_10000000000000120137http://www.chicagotribune.com/services/newspaper/premium/printedition/Sunday/chi-water_bdjul22,0,4662510.story?page=1 This article is good for helping us weigh pros/cons & make our own decisions:http://www.blackwomenshealth.com/Water.htm And for you Canadians, here's an article from Toronto:http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_11772.aspxAnd lastly, here is a quote from e.magazine.com ('e' for environmental): Pat lin, the executive director of the Container Recycling Institute (CRI), says nine out of 10 plastic water bottles end up as either garbage or litter—at a rate of 30 million per day. According to the Climate Action Network, when some plastic bottles are incinerated along with other trash, as is the practice in many municipalities, toxic chlorine (and potentially dioxin) is released into the air while heavy metals deposit in the ash. If plastics are buried in landfills, not only do they take up valuable space, but potentially toxic additives such as phthalates may leak into the groundwater. “It’s ironic that many people drink bottled water because they are afraid of tap water, but then the bottles they discard can result in more polluted water,” says lin. “It’s a crazy cycle.” I hope no one is offended, but I think that many of us don't realize that the questionable benefit of bottled water probably doesn't outweigh the

expense & probable harm. Ramblin' RoseModerator A merry heart is good medicine. Proverbs 17:22 "How far you go in life depends on your being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and tolerant of the weak and the strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these." ~ Washington Carver More photos; more messages; more whatever – Get MORE with Windows Live™ Hotmail®. NOW with 5GB storage. Get more!

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My husband and both of my sons have worked, at different times, at the recycling center near our town. We used to recycle. Since I've been ill it has been a battle between my husband and myself. WE just can't do it anymore. He has Asperger's syndrome and is obsessive about these types of things. When I needed him... he would be emptying the garbage on the floor to take out the cans and bottles and they would be piling up all over the kitchen, in his bedroom, etc. I had to put my foot down and say no more recycling. We just didn't have the time or energy to be messing around with it when I was ill and needed help getting

into the shower and he was in the basement putting cans in bags. It was too much. Our water is nasty and I don't have the energy to be messing with filters, etc. We put one on the faucet and the taste barely changed. Bottled water is a necessity. I fill up 5 bottles with one canister of Crystal lite divided between them and that is my fluid for the day. All I want to mess with on that. Plain water doesn't sit right with my gut and I also know I've had my water for the day. I can't feel guilty about it. I am just trying to get through my day with as little pain as possible and still try to maintain some kindof lifestyle of comfort and some creativity. I believe in 'green' and global warming and all that BUT I am not active in that battle right now. I am in a different battle trying to hang on to my sanity and some measure of health. BTW two days ago one of my older

brothers(I have seven...) had a heart attack and was flown flight for life to St. Lukes and had a 6 way by-pass yesterday. He passed out last November and were supposedly running some tests on him. HOW did they miss this?!? At first I was in shock cuz he was supposed to be having all these tests over this whole year and now I am just angry...Can you tell???.... Another one of my brothers is driving himself and his wife to CA to see a neurologist about her severe migraines. She is a Doc herself but hasn't worked for ten years or so cuz of these headaches. They live in Chicago. It drives me nuts to think they have to see a specialist so far away when they live in such a huge metropolitan area. Also...my nephew-in-law's brain tumor has taken a turn for the worse. It is inoperable so they don't know for sure what it even is. I haven't been feeling too well the last two weeks and finding out

this stuff over the last two days isn't helping. One my neices has shingles, too. AAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! She's only 27 with three kids. ANy prayers would be appreciated. hugs S. Rose wrote: I

accidentally sent this message before I finished it, so this is actually the complete message. I don't want this to become a divisive issue on the list, so if anyone who wants to debate this with me, email me privately at mamadogrose (AT) hotmail (DOT) com. First off, I want to say that I am not a radical environmentalist, but I do try to help reduce my household waste & I definitely try to save money. This message started out as a simple suggestion & turned into more of a political issue, perhaps. We've had an ongoing struggle with a landfill issue here, so I guess that has influenced my choices.Terri, I use a filtering pitcher, not so much because I'm worried about water quality, but because the filtered water definitely tastes better. I have 3 gallon milk jugs that I fill with filtered water. I use it for drinking, making tea, coffee,

Koolaid, etc. I don't use it for ice cubes; I haven't noticed a difference as the ice melts & since I drink a lot of ice water, I'd be making filtered water all the time. As it is, about once a week, I fill my 3 jugs, when I'm working in the kitchen anyway. It takes about half an hour of filling the pitcher, letting the water filter through, pouring into the jugs, refilling the pitcher. Then I keep the pitcher in the fridge. My grandkids drink a lot of water, which makes me happy. I have a 1-liter reusable sports bottle with an insulated holder. I fill it half-way & keep it in the freezer, then fill to the top to take with me. If I'm going to be gone for several hours, I use a half-gallon insulated jug with a shoulder strap. It really doesn't take much time or energy, and I know it saves me money, even without considering the environmental impact. I only have to buy filters a couple of times a year & they are inexpensive. I'm not willing to spend money buying bottled water, especially since recent reports indicate that most bottled water, even expensive brands, is basically just tap water. I also worry about all those bottles going to landfills. Only about 15% of them are recycled & they don't degrade. For those interested in more info, here are a few websites:http://www.pmmag.com/CDA/Articles/Feature_Article/BNP_GUID_9-5-2006_A_10000000000000120137http://www.chicagotribune.com/services/newspaper/premium/printedition/Sunday/chi-water_bdjul22,0,4662510.story?page=1 This article is good for helping us weigh pros/cons & make our own decisions:http://www.blackwomenshealth.com/Water.htm And for you Canadians, here's an article from Toronto:http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_11772.aspxAnd lastly, here is a quote from e.magazine.com ('e' for environmental): Pat lin, the executive director of the Container Recycling Institute (CRI), says nine out of 10 plastic water bottles end up as either garbage or litter—at a rate of 30 million per day. According to the Climate Action Network, when some plastic bottles are incinerated along with other trash, as is the practice in many municipalities, toxic chlorine (and potentially dioxin) is released into the air while heavy metals deposit in the ash. If plastics are buried in landfills, not only do they take up valuable space, but potentially toxic additives such as phthalates may leak into the groundwater. “It’s ironic that many people drink bottled water because they are afraid of tap water, but then the bottles they discard can result in more polluted water,” says lin. “It’s a crazy cycle.” I hope no one is offended, but I think that many of us don't realize that the questionable benefit of bottled water probably doesn't outweigh the

expense & probable harm. Ramblin' RoseModerator A merry heart is good medicine. Proverbs 17:22 "How far you go in life depends on your being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and tolerant of the weak and the strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these." ~ Washington Carver More photos; more messages; more whatever – Get MORE with Windows Live™ Hotmail®. NOW with 5GB storage. Get more!

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I sent a reply to this post and it has never showed up yet my computer has shown that I sent it. ??? S. Rose wrote: I accidentally sent this message before I finished it, so this is actually the complete message. I don't want this to become a divisive issue on the list, so if anyone who wants to debate this with me, email me privately at mamadogrose (AT) hotmail (DOT) com. First off, I want to say that I am not a radical environmentalist, but I do try to help reduce my household waste & I definitely try to save money. This message started out as a simple suggestion & turned into more of a political issue, perhaps. We've had an ongoing struggle with a landfill issue here, so I guess that has influenced my choices.Terri, I use a filtering pitcher, not so much because I'm worried about water quality, but because the filtered water definitely tastes better. I have 3 gallon milk jugs that

I fill with filtered water. I use it for drinking, making tea, coffee, Koolaid, etc. I don't use it for ice cubes; I haven't noticed a difference as the ice melts & since I drink a lot of ice water, I'd be making filtered water all the time. As it is, about once a week, I fill my 3 jugs, when I'm working in the kitchen anyway. It takes about half an hour of filling the pitcher, letting the water filter through, pouring into the jugs, refilling the pitcher. Then I keep the pitcher in the fridge. My grandkids drink a lot of water, which makes me happy. I have a 1-liter reusable sports bottle with an insulated holder. I fill it half-way & keep it in the freezer, then fill to the top to take with me. If I'm going to be gone for several hours, I use a half-gallon insulated jug with a shoulder strap. It really doesn't take much time or energy, and I know it saves me money, even without considering

the environmental impact. I only have to buy filters a couple of times a year & they are inexpensive. I'm not willing to spend money buying bottled water, especially since recent reports indicate that most bottled water, even expensive brands, is basically just tap water. I also worry about all those bottles going to landfills. Only about 15% of them are recycled & they don't degrade. For those interested in more info, here are a few websites:http://www.pmmag.com/CDA/Articles/Feature_Article/BNP_GUID_9-5-2006_A_10000000000000120137http://www.chicagotribune.com/services/newspaper/premium/printedition/Sunday/chi-water_bdjul22,0,4662510.story?page=1 This article is good for helping us weigh pros/cons & make our own decisions:http://www.blackwomenshealth.com/Water.htm And for you Canadians, here's an article from Toronto:http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_11772.aspxAnd lastly, here is a quote from e.magazine.com ('e' for environmental): Pat lin, the executive director of the Container Recycling Institute (CRI), says nine out of 10 plastic water bottles end up as either garbage or litter—at a rate of 30 million per day. According to the Climate Action Network, when some plastic bottles are incinerated along with other trash, as is the practice in many municipalities, toxic chlorine (and potentially dioxin) is released into the air while heavy metals deposit in the ash. If plastics are buried in landfills, not only do they take up valuable space, but potentially toxic additives such as phthalates may leak into the groundwater. “It’s ironic that many people drink bottled water because they are afraid of tap water, but then the bottles they discard can result in more polluted water,” says lin. “It’s a crazy cycle.” I hope no one is offended, but I think that many of us don't realize that the questionable benefit of bottled water probably doesn't outweigh the

expense & probable harm. Ramblin' RoseModerator A merry heart is good medicine. Proverbs 17:22 "How far you go in life depends on your being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and tolerant of the weak and the strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these." ~ Washington Carver More photos; more messages; more whatever – Get MORE with Windows Live™ Hotmail®. NOW with 5GB storage. Get more!

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I sent a reply to this post and it has never showed up yet my computer has shown that I sent it. ??? S. Rose wrote: I accidentally sent this message before I finished it, so this is actually the complete message. I don't want this to become a divisive issue on the list, so if anyone who wants to debate this with me, email me privately at mamadogrose (AT) hotmail (DOT) com. First off, I want to say that I am not a radical environmentalist, but I do try to help reduce my household waste & I definitely try to save money. This message started out as a simple suggestion & turned into more of a political issue, perhaps. We've had an ongoing struggle with a landfill issue here, so I guess that has influenced my choices.Terri, I use a filtering pitcher, not so much because I'm worried about water quality, but because the filtered water definitely tastes better. I have 3 gallon milk jugs that

I fill with filtered water. I use it for drinking, making tea, coffee, Koolaid, etc. I don't use it for ice cubes; I haven't noticed a difference as the ice melts & since I drink a lot of ice water, I'd be making filtered water all the time. As it is, about once a week, I fill my 3 jugs, when I'm working in the kitchen anyway. It takes about half an hour of filling the pitcher, letting the water filter through, pouring into the jugs, refilling the pitcher. Then I keep the pitcher in the fridge. My grandkids drink a lot of water, which makes me happy. I have a 1-liter reusable sports bottle with an insulated holder. I fill it half-way & keep it in the freezer, then fill to the top to take with me. If I'm going to be gone for several hours, I use a half-gallon insulated jug with a shoulder strap. It really doesn't take much time or energy, and I know it saves me money, even without considering

the environmental impact. I only have to buy filters a couple of times a year & they are inexpensive. I'm not willing to spend money buying bottled water, especially since recent reports indicate that most bottled water, even expensive brands, is basically just tap water. I also worry about all those bottles going to landfills. Only about 15% of them are recycled & they don't degrade. For those interested in more info, here are a few websites:http://www.pmmag.com/CDA/Articles/Feature_Article/BNP_GUID_9-5-2006_A_10000000000000120137http://www.chicagotribune.com/services/newspaper/premium/printedition/Sunday/chi-water_bdjul22,0,4662510.story?page=1 This article is good for helping us weigh pros/cons & make our own decisions:http://www.blackwomenshealth.com/Water.htm And for you Canadians, here's an article from Toronto:http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_11772.aspxAnd lastly, here is a quote from e.magazine.com ('e' for environmental): Pat lin, the executive director of the Container Recycling Institute (CRI), says nine out of 10 plastic water bottles end up as either garbage or litter—at a rate of 30 million per day. According to the Climate Action Network, when some plastic bottles are incinerated along with other trash, as is the practice in many municipalities, toxic chlorine (and potentially dioxin) is released into the air while heavy metals deposit in the ash. If plastics are buried in landfills, not only do they take up valuable space, but potentially toxic additives such as phthalates may leak into the groundwater. “It’s ironic that many people drink bottled water because they are afraid of tap water, but then the bottles they discard can result in more polluted water,” says lin. “It’s a crazy cycle.” I hope no one is offended, but I think that many of us don't realize that the questionable benefit of bottled water probably doesn't outweigh the

expense & probable harm. Ramblin' RoseModerator A merry heart is good medicine. Proverbs 17:22 "How far you go in life depends on your being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and tolerant of the weak and the strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these." ~ Washington Carver More photos; more messages; more whatever – Get MORE with Windows Live™ Hotmail®. NOW with 5GB storage. Get more!

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I know this unit is expensive, but it hasmore that saved us. We have a WaterWise Steam Distiller with filter. This unit makes a little over a galon of water at a time.

I use this water for cooking, canning you name it.

I am just now getting caught up on making our water.

No chemicals no nothing in the water. Just crystal clear.

I have a two galon jug in the refrigerator

I make water about every day to once a week depending.Sharon L. Schuckman sharupac@...

Re: bottled water-- WARNING: ?political issue

My husband and both of my sons have worked, at different times, at the recycling center near our town. We used to recycle. Since I've been ill it has been a battle between my husband and myself. WE just can't do it anymore. He has Asperger's syndrome and is obsessive about these types of things. When I needed him... he would be emptying the garbage on the floor to take out the cans and bottles and they would be piling up all over the kitchen, in his bedroom, etc. I had to put my foot down and say no more recycling. We just didn't have the time or energy to be messing around with it when I was ill and needed help getting into the shower and he was in the basement putting cans in bags. It was too much. Our water is nasty and I don't have the energy to be messing with filters, etc.

We put one on the faucet and the taste barely changed. Bottled water is a necessity. I fill up 5 bottles with one canister of Crystal lite divided between them and that is my fluid for the day. All I want to mess with on that. Plain water doesn't sit right with my gut and I also know I've had my water for the day. I can't feel guilty about it. I am just trying to get through my day with as little pain as possible and still try to maintain some kindof lifestyle of comfort and some creativity. I believe in 'green' and global warming and all that BUT I am not active in that battle right now. I am in a different battle trying to hang on to my sanity and some measure of health. BTW two days ago one of my older brothers(I have seven...) had a heart attack and was flown flight for life to St. Lukes and had a 6 way by-pass yesterday. He passed out last November and were

supposedly running some tests on him. HOW did they miss this?!? At first I was in shock cuz he was supposed to be having all these tests over this whole year and now I am just angry...Can you tell???.... Another one of my brothers is driving himself and his wife to CA to see a neurologist about her severe migraines. She is a Doc herself but hasn't worked for ten years or so cuz of these headaches. They live in Chicago. It drives me nuts to think they have to see a specialist so far away when they live in such a huge metropolitan area. Also...my nephew-in-law's brain tumor has taken a turn for the worse. It is inoperable so they don't know for sure what it even is. I haven't been feeling too well the last two weeks and finding out this stuff over the last two days isn't helping. One my neices has shingles, too. AAAAAHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!! She's only 27 with

three kids. ANy prayers would be appreciated. hugs S.

Rose wrote:

I accidentally sent this message before I finished it, so this is actually the complete message. I don't want this to become a divisive issue on the list, so if anyone who wants to debate this with me, email me privately at mamadogrose@ hotmail.com. First off, I want to say that I am not a radical environmentalist, but I do try to help reduce my household waste & I definitely try to save money. This message started out as a simple suggestion & turned into more of a political issue, perhaps. We've had an ongoing struggle with a landfill issue here, so I guess that has influenced my choices.Terri, I use a filtering pitcher, not so much because I'm worried about water quality, but because the filtered water definitely tastes better. I have

3 gallon milk jugs that I fill with filtered water. I use it for drinking, making tea, coffee, Koolaid, etc. I don't use it for ice cubes; I haven't noticed a difference as the ice melts & since I drink a lot of ice water, I'd be making filtered water all the time. As it is, about once a week, I fill my 3 jugs, when I'm working in the kitchen anyway. It takes about half an hour of filling the pitcher, letting the water filter through, pouring into the jugs, refilling the pitcher. Then I keep the pitcher in the fridge. My grandkids drink a lot of water, which makes me happy. I have a 1-liter reusable sports bottle with an insulated holder. I fill it half-way & keep it in the freezer, then fill to the top to take with me. If I'm going to be gone for several hours, I use a half-gallon insulated jug with a shoulder strap. It really doesn't take much time or energy, and I know

it saves me money, even without considering the environmental impact. I only have to buy filters a couple of times a year & they are inexpensive. I'm not willing to spend money buying bottled water, especially since recent reports indicate that most bottled water, even expensive brands, is basically just tap water. I also worry about all those bottles going to landfills. Only about 15% of them are recycled & they don't degrade. For those interested in more info, here are a few websites:http://www.pmmag. com/CDA/Articles /Feature_ Article/BNP_ GUID_9-5- 2006_A_100000000 00000120137http://www.chicagot ribune.com/ services/ newspaper/ premium/printedi tion/Sunday/ chi-water_ bdjul22,0, 4662510.story? page=1 This article is good for helping us weigh pros/cons & make our own decisions:http://www.blackwom enshealth. com/Water. htm And for you Canadians, here's an article from Toronto:http://www.citynews .ca/news/ news_11772. aspxAnd lastly, here is a quote from e.magazine.com ('e' for environmental) : Pat lin, the executive director of the Container Recycling Institute (CRI), says nine out of 10

plastic water bottles end up as either garbage or litter—at a rate of 30 million per day. According to the Climate Action Network, when some plastic bottles are incinerated along with other trash, as is the practice in many municipalities, toxic chlorine (and potentially dioxin) is released into the air while heavy metals deposit in the ash. If plastics are buried in landfills, not only do they take up valuable space, but potentially toxic additives such as phthalates may leak into the groundwater. “It’s ironic that many people drink bottled water because they are afraid of tap water, but then the bottles they discard can result in more polluted water,” says lin. “It’s a crazy cycle.” I hope no one is offended, but I think that many of us don't realize that the questionable benefit of bottled water probably doesn't outweigh the expense & probable harm.

Ramblin' RoseModerator A merry heart is good medicine. Proverbs 17:22

"How far you go in life depends on your being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and tolerant of the weak and the strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these."

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S.,

As I told Rick, we will do our part for you. I am sending you a big,

warming, loving hug filled with lots of prayers.

Take care of yourself.

Terri G.

I accidentally sent this message

before I finished it, so this is actually the complete message. I don't

want this to become a divisive issue on the list, so if anyone who wants

to debate this with me, email me privately at mamadogrose@...

>

> First off, I want to say that I am not a radical environmentalist, but

I do try to help reduce my household waste & I definitely try to save

money. This message started out as a simple suggestion & turned into

more of a political issue, perhaps. We've had an ongoing struggle with a

landfill issue here, so I guess that has influenced my choices.

> Terri, I use a filtering pitcher, not so much because I'm worried

about water quality, but because the filtered water definitely tastes

better. I have 3 gallon milk jugs that I fill with filtered water. I use

it for drinking, making tea, coffee, Koolaid, etc. I don't use it for

ice cubes; I haven't noticed a difference as the ice melts & since I

drink a lot of ice water, I'd be making filtered water all the time. As

it is, about once a week, I fill my 3 jugs, when I'm working in the

kitchen anyway. It takes about half an hour of filling the pitcher,

letting the water filter through, pouring into the jugs, refilling the

pitcher. Then I keep the pitcher in the fridge. My grandkids drink a lot

of water, which makes me happy. I have a 1-liter reusable sports bottle

with an insulated holder. I fill it half-way & keep it in the freezer,

then fill to the top to take with me. If I'm going to be gone for

several hours, I use a half-gallon insulated jug with a shoulder

> strap. It really doesn't take much time or energy, and I know it saves

me money, even without considering the environmental impact.

>

> I only have to buy filters a couple of times a year & they are

inexpensive. I'm not willing to spend money buying bottled water,

especially since recent reports indicate that most bottled water, even

expensive brands, is basically just tap water. I also worry about all

those bottles going to landfills. Only about 15% of them are recycled &

they don't degrade. For those interested in more info, here are a few

websites:

>

>

http://www.pmmag.com/CDA/Articles/Feature_Article/BNP_GUID_9-5-2006_A_10\

000000000000120137

>

>

http://www.chicagotribune.com/services/newspaper/premium/printedition/Su\

nday/chi-water_bdjul22,0,4662510.story?page=1

>

> This article is good for helping us weigh pros/cons & make our own

decisions:

>

> http://www.blackwomenshealth.com/Water.htm

>

> And for you Canadians, here's an article from Toronto:

> http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_11772.aspx

>

> And lastly, here is a quote from e.magazine.com ('e' for

environmental):

>

> Pat lin, the executive director of the Container Recycling

Institute (CRI), says nine out of 10 plastic water bottles end up as

either garbage or litter—at a rate of 30 million per day. According

to the Climate Action Network, when some plastic bottles are incinerated

along with other trash, as is the practice in many municipalities, toxic

chlorine (and potentially dioxin) is released into the air while heavy

metals deposit in the ash. If plastics are buried in landfills, not only

do they take up valuable space, but potentially toxic additives such as

phthalates may leak into the groundwater. " It's ironic that many

people drink bottled water because they are afraid of tap water, but

then the bottles they discard can result in more polluted water, "

says lin. " It's a crazy cycle. "

>

> I hope no one is offended, but I think that many of us don't realize

that the questionable benefit of bottled water probably doesn't outweigh

the expense & probable harm.

>

>

> Ramblin' Rose

> Moderator

>

> A merry heart is good medicine. Proverbs 17:22

>

> " How far you go in life depends on your being tender with the young,

compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and tolerant

of the weak and the strong. Because someday in life you will have been

all of these. "

>

> ~ Washington Carver

>

>

>

>

>

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After I wrote the post on what we did with our well water, I want to thank you Rose, on your very important post on these websites. They were very informative especially the one on well water. You must have put in a lot of effort to find these sites and forward them along to us. I really appreciate it. Thanks again Rosie for all your help. You are very good to us as usual! Luv, Debbie T. Co-ModeratorRose wrote: I accidentally sent this message before I finished it, so this is actually the complete message. I don't want this to become a divisive issue on the list, so if anyone who wants to debate this

with me, email me privately at mamadogrose@.... First off, I want to say that I am not a radical environmentalist, but I do try to help reduce my household waste & I definitely try to save money. This message started out as a simple suggestion & turned into more of a political issue, perhaps. We've had an ongoing struggle with a landfill issue here, so I guess that has influenced my choices.Terri, I use a filtering pitcher, not so much because I'm worried about water quality, but because the filtered water definitely tastes better. I have 3 gallon milk jugs that I fill with filtered water. I use it for drinking, making tea, coffee, Koolaid, etc. I don't use it for ice cubes; I haven't noticed a difference as the ice melts & since I drink a lot of ice water, I'd be making filtered water all the time. As it is, about

once a week, I fill my 3 jugs, when I'm working in the kitchen anyway. It takes about half an hour of filling the pitcher, letting the water filter through, pouring into the jugs, refilling the pitcher. Then I keep the pitcher in the fridge. My grandkids drink a lot of water, which makes me happy. I have a 1-liter reusable sports bottle with an insulated holder. I fill it half-way & keep it in the freezer, then fill to the top to take with me. If I'm going to be gone for several hours, I use a half-gallon insulated jug with a shoulder strap. It really doesn't take much time or energy, and I know it saves me money, even without considering the environmental impact. I only have to buy filters a couple of times a year & they are inexpensive. I'm not willing to spend money buying bottled water, especially since recent reports indicate that most bottled

water, even expensive brands, is basically just tap water. I also worry about all those bottles going to landfills. Only about 15% of them are recycled & they don't degrade. For those interested in more info, here are a few websites:http://www.pmmag.com/CDA/Articles/Feature_Article/BNP_GUID_9-5-2006_A_10000000000000120137http://www.chicagotribune.com/services/newspaper/premium/printedition/Sunday/chi-water_bdjul22,0,4662510.story?page=1 This article is good for helping us weigh pros/cons & make our own decisions:http://www.blackwomenshealth.com/Water.htm And for you Canadians, here's an article from Toronto:http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_11772.aspxAnd lastly, here is a quote from e.magazine.com ('e' for environmental): Pat lin, the executive director of the Container Recycling Institute (CRI), says nine out of 10 plastic water bottles end up as either garbage or litter—at a rate of 30 million per day. According to the Climate Action Network, when some plastic bottles are incinerated along with other trash, as is the practice in many municipalities, toxic chlorine (and potentially dioxin) is released into the air while heavy metals deposit in the ash. If plastics are buried in landfills, not only do they take up valuable space, but potentially toxic additives such as phthalates may leak

into the groundwater. “It’s ironic that many people drink bottled water because they are afraid of tap water, but then the bottles they discard can result in more polluted water,” says lin. “It’s a crazy cycle.” I hope no one is offended, but I think that many of us don't realize that the questionable benefit of bottled water probably doesn't outweigh the expense & probable harm. Ramblin' RoseModerator A merry heart is good medicine. Proverbs 17:22 "How far you go in life depends on your being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and tolerant of the weak and the strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these." ~ Washington Carver More photos; more messages; more whatever – Get MORE with Windows Live™ Hotmail®. NOW with 5GB storage. Get more! Debbie T.Co-Moderator

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[Guest guest]

After I wrote the post on what we did with our well water, I want to thank you Rose, on your very important post on these websites. They were very informative especially the one on well water. You must have put in a lot of effort to find these sites and forward them along to us. I really appreciate it. Thanks again Rosie for all your help. You are very good to us as usual! Luv, Debbie T. Co-ModeratorRose wrote: I accidentally sent this message before I finished it, so this is actually the complete message. I don't want this to become a divisive issue on the list, so if anyone who wants to debate this

with me, email me privately at mamadogrose@.... First off, I want to say that I am not a radical environmentalist, but I do try to help reduce my household waste & I definitely try to save money. This message started out as a simple suggestion & turned into more of a political issue, perhaps. We've had an ongoing struggle with a landfill issue here, so I guess that has influenced my choices.Terri, I use a filtering pitcher, not so much because I'm worried about water quality, but because the filtered water definitely tastes better. I have 3 gallon milk jugs that I fill with filtered water. I use it for drinking, making tea, coffee, Koolaid, etc. I don't use it for ice cubes; I haven't noticed a difference as the ice melts & since I drink a lot of ice water, I'd be making filtered water all the time. As it is, about

once a week, I fill my 3 jugs, when I'm working in the kitchen anyway. It takes about half an hour of filling the pitcher, letting the water filter through, pouring into the jugs, refilling the pitcher. Then I keep the pitcher in the fridge. My grandkids drink a lot of water, which makes me happy. I have a 1-liter reusable sports bottle with an insulated holder. I fill it half-way & keep it in the freezer, then fill to the top to take with me. If I'm going to be gone for several hours, I use a half-gallon insulated jug with a shoulder strap. It really doesn't take much time or energy, and I know it saves me money, even without considering the environmental impact. I only have to buy filters a couple of times a year & they are inexpensive. I'm not willing to spend money buying bottled water, especially since recent reports indicate that most bottled

water, even expensive brands, is basically just tap water. I also worry about all those bottles going to landfills. Only about 15% of them are recycled & they don't degrade. For those interested in more info, here are a few websites:http://www.pmmag.com/CDA/Articles/Feature_Article/BNP_GUID_9-5-2006_A_10000000000000120137http://www.chicagotribune.com/services/newspaper/premium/printedition/Sunday/chi-water_bdjul22,0,4662510.story?page=1 This article is good for helping us weigh pros/cons & make our own decisions:http://www.blackwomenshealth.com/Water.htm And for you Canadians, here's an article from Toronto:http://www.citynews.ca/news/news_11772.aspxAnd lastly, here is a quote from e.magazine.com ('e' for environmental): Pat lin, the executive director of the Container Recycling Institute (CRI), says nine out of 10 plastic water bottles end up as either garbage or litter—at a rate of 30 million per day. According to the Climate Action Network, when some plastic bottles are incinerated along with other trash, as is the practice in many municipalities, toxic chlorine (and potentially dioxin) is released into the air while heavy metals deposit in the ash. If plastics are buried in landfills, not only do they take up valuable space, but potentially toxic additives such as phthalates may leak

into the groundwater. “It’s ironic that many people drink bottled water because they are afraid of tap water, but then the bottles they discard can result in more polluted water,” says lin. “It’s a crazy cycle.” I hope no one is offended, but I think that many of us don't realize that the questionable benefit of bottled water probably doesn't outweigh the expense & probable harm. Ramblin' RoseModerator A merry heart is good medicine. Proverbs 17:22 "How far you go in life depends on your being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving, and tolerant of the weak and the strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these." ~ Washington Carver More photos; more messages; more whatever – Get MORE with Windows Live™ Hotmail®. NOW with 5GB storage. Get more! Debbie T.Co-Moderator

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