Re: CARBS...the good, the bad and the ugly...

August 14, 2001

I have been on a plateau for 3 weeks. I tried eating anything except cakes and

pies and I still don't lose weight. I think my problem is I didn't eat massive

amounts before surgery and I would really have to restrict calories to lose.

Which is like being on a continuous diet and not what I thought I would have to

do to lose weight after the BPD/DS.

I had my surgery on June 12th and have only lost 30lbs....bummer.

In a message dated Tue, 14 Aug 2001 6:14:00 PM Eastern Daylight Time, " Judie

Hensel " writes:

> contrary to what you have been led to believe, your body DOES need some

> carbs every day.....the brain especially needs it!

> You do not have to count carbs after the DS although some like to keep it at

> 35 grams per meal......you only absorb about 50% of the carbs (complex) you

> eat. You do have to watch the simple carbs such as pies, cakes, candy etc

> and go easy on that. I dont pay any attention to calories, carbs nor fat

> and Im losing just fine!

> I eat baked potatoes with butter, chili, grated cheese and sour cream on

> it......I eat some sweets every day......

>

> Judie

>

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>

August 14, 2001

I wish I could eat like this and still lose weight. The surgery obviously works

better for some than others. I think the amount of intestine bypassed must be

one of the deciding factors. If you weren't a " big " eater before surgery did

anyone have to go under 1000 cals to lose?

In a message dated Tue, 14 Aug 2001 7:31:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

lionrampart1@... writes:

> , Different folks have different ways of eating after the

> surgery. I too am a compulsive overeater (or was) and love my

> carbs. The women in my family are all great cooks, myself included,

> and good eating is a way of life for us. If I had thought for one

> minute I would be dieting after surgery, I wouldnt have had it. I'd

> of had an RNY.. The beauty of the DS is the normalcy of post-op

> eating.

> I always eat protein first, and get all my vitamins, but other than

> that, I eat what I want, including some carbs. I've lost 41lbs in 7

> weeks, so the surgery is working, obviously.

> Other folks stick to sugar free everything, and watch fat and carbs.

> Not me. YMMV

> Meli

> June 21,01

> -41lbs

> Dr Hess

>

> -- In duodenalswitch@y..., melanie@a... wrote:

> > Hi there,

> >

> > I know we all had this surgery so we didn't have to count calories,

> > carbs, fat, etc...HOWEVER, I'm a compulsive counter and want some

> > info from my fellow DSers...

> >

> > For those of you who need to fill up your brain with tedious

> details

> > like I do, do you count your carbs daily? If so, what is the

> number

> > you try to stay around...I know we don't need carbs

> > nutritionally...(though the fiber in the dense carbs help with the

> > consistency of our " special " poops...)and I know we absorb a huge

> > percentage of them...

> >

> > SO, what should I be shooting for on a daily basis?

> >

> > I tend to crave them just like I did prior to surgery. I want to

> make

> > sure I don't totally deprive myself, but stay in a moderate area of

> > consumption. I am great about protein, vitamins, water and

> > such...just need some assistance.

> >

> > I can't wait to hear from you...

> >

> > Be well,

> >

> > Mulvaney Rossell ( R on DS site)

> > San Obipso, CA

> > Dr. Keshishian

> > 4/23/01

> > -53 pounds

>

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

>

August 14, 2001

contrary to what you have been led to believe, your body DOES need some

carbs every day.....the brain especially needs it!

You do not have to count carbs after the DS although some like to keep it at

35 grams per meal......you only absorb about 50% of the carbs (complex) you

eat. You do have to watch the simple carbs such as pies, cakes, candy etc

and go easy on that. I dont pay any attention to calories, carbs nor fat

and Im losing just fine!

I eat baked potatoes with butter, chili, grated cheese and sour cream on

it......I eat some sweets every day......

Judie

August 14, 2001

Gwen,

Have you tried adding exercise into the mix?

I found that, very clearly in my case, if I don't exercise, I don't lose.

That simple. I know others don't exercise and they lose massive amounts, but

that just doesn't happen for me.

Exercising 4 days per week has increased my weight loss from .5 to 1.5 lb per

week and brought it closer to 4-5 lb per week. Obviously this may not be

consistent forever, but for now seems to be the trend.

Dawna

August 14, 2001

Gwen,

Have you tried adding exercise into the mix?

I found that, very clearly in my case, if I don't exercise, I don't lose.

That simple. I know others don't exercise and they lose massive amounts, but

that just doesn't happen for me.

Exercising 4 days per week has increased my weight loss from .5 to 1.5 lb per

week and brought it closer to 4-5 lb per week. Obviously this may not be

consistent forever, but for now seems to be the trend.

Dawna

August 14, 2001

In a message dated 8/14/01 5:17:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

gwen20852@... writes:

> I wish I could eat like this and still lose weight. The surgery obviously

> works better for some than others. I think the amount of intestine bypassed

> must be one of the deciding factors. If you weren't a " big " eater before

> surgery did anyone have to go under 1000 cals to lose?

>

LOL I can't even eat 1000 calories in a day...LOL My common channel is

65cm...we'll see soon how that works for me. I only weighed once so

far...but I'm going to Thursday before my support group!!

~~* AJ *~~

Post op 7/24/01 Open BPD/DS

self pay - Dr Baltasar -Alcoy Spain

07/24/01 BMI 64 - 415.1

08/06/01 BMI 59 - 390.2 -24.9 lbs!!!!!!!!!!~~~~

Check out the

Bellingham Support for WLS

WWW.WLSBellingham.homestead.com

August 14, 2001

In a message dated 8/14/01 5:17:29 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

gwen20852@... writes:

> I wish I could eat like this and still lose weight. The surgery obviously

> works better for some than others. I think the amount of intestine bypassed

> must be one of the deciding factors. If you weren't a " big " eater before

> surgery did anyone have to go under 1000 cals to lose?

>

LOL I can't even eat 1000 calories in a day...LOL My common channel is

65cm...we'll see soon how that works for me. I only weighed once so

far...but I'm going to Thursday before my support group!!

~~* AJ *~~

Post op 7/24/01 Open BPD/DS

self pay - Dr Baltasar -Alcoy Spain

07/24/01 BMI 64 - 415.1

08/06/01 BMI 59 - 390.2 -24.9 lbs!!!!!!!!!!~~~~

Check out the

Bellingham Support for WLS

WWW.WLSBellingham.homestead.com

August 14, 2001

In a message dated 8/14/01 5:49:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

jhensel@... writes:

> if I didnt lose another pound I would be thrilled simply becuz I came

> such a long ways and am healthy and happy for the first time in a long, long

> time!

>

Great Attitude Judie...I think you are totally taking the right approach!!

~~* AJ *~~

Post op 7/24/01 Open BPD/DS

self pay - Dr Baltasar -Alcoy Spain

07/24/01 BMI 64 - 415.1

08/06/01 BMI 59 - 390.2 -24.9 lbs!!!!!!!!!!~~~~

Check out the

Bellingham Support for WLS

WWW.WLSBellingham.homestead.com

August 14, 2001

In a message dated 8/14/01 5:49:10 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

jhensel@... writes:

> if I didnt lose another pound I would be thrilled simply becuz I came

> such a long ways and am healthy and happy for the first time in a long, long

> time!

>

Great Attitude Judie...I think you are totally taking the right approach!!

~~* AJ *~~

Post op 7/24/01 Open BPD/DS

self pay - Dr Baltasar -Alcoy Spain

07/24/01 BMI 64 - 415.1

08/06/01 BMI 59 - 390.2 -24.9 lbs!!!!!!!!!!~~~~

Check out the

Bellingham Support for WLS

WWW.WLSBellingham.homestead.com

August 14, 2001

, Different folks have different ways of eating after the

surgery. I too am a compulsive overeater (or was) and love my

carbs. The women in my family are all great cooks, myself included,

and good eating is a way of life for us. If I had thought for one

minute I would be dieting after surgery, I wouldnt have had it. I'd

of had an RNY.. The beauty of the DS is the normalcy of post-op

eating.

I always eat protein first, and get all my vitamins, but other than

that, I eat what I want, including some carbs. I've lost 41lbs in 7

weeks, so the surgery is working, obviously.

Other folks stick to sugar free everything, and watch fat and carbs.

Not me. YMMV

Meli

June 21,01

-41lbs

Dr Hess

-- In duodenalswitch@y..., melanie@a... wrote:

> Hi there,

>

> I know we all had this surgery so we didn't have to count calories,

> carbs, fat, etc...HOWEVER, I'm a compulsive counter and want some

> info from my fellow DSers...

>

> For those of you who need to fill up your brain with tedious

details

> like I do, do you count your carbs daily? If so, what is the

number

> you try to stay around...I know we don't need carbs

> nutritionally...(though the fiber in the dense carbs help with the

> consistency of our " special " poops...)and I know we absorb a huge

> percentage of them...

>

> SO, what should I be shooting for on a daily basis?

>

> I tend to crave them just like I did prior to surgery. I want to

make

> sure I don't totally deprive myself, but stay in a moderate area of

> consumption. I am great about protein, vitamins, water and

> such...just need some assistance.

>

> I can't wait to hear from you...

>

> Be well,

>

> Mulvaney Rossell ( R on DS site)

> San Obipso, CA

> Dr. Keshishian

> 4/23/01

> -53 pounds

August 14, 2001

Gwen, everyone is different, hon..

I had my switch 5/30, and am only -48 lbs.. but I'm not crying yet

(about the weight loss, anyway). I created a chart for myself.. even

if I only lose 10 lbs/month from here on out, I should still reach my

goal weight. 10 lbs is a conservative estimate, because I wanted to

see where I'd be, " worst-case. " Just hang in there, & try not to be

too jealous of all those lucky speedy losers.. Believe me, I'm having

similar thoughts (Judy, ya lucky so-and-so =P), but its not over yet.

As long as the scale keeps moving downward, we're doing just fine.

BIG Hugs,

Liane

another pokey loser

> I have been on a plateau for 3 weeks. I tried eating anything except

cakes and pies and I still don't lose weight. I think my problem is I

didn't eat massive amounts before surgery and I would really have to

restrict calories to lose. Which is like being on a continuous diet

and not what I thought I would have to do to lose weight after the

BPD/DS.

> I had my surgery on June 12th and have only lost 30lbs....bummer.

>

> In a message dated Tue, 14 Aug 2001 6:14:00 PM Eastern Daylight

Time, " Judie Hensel " <jhensel@c...> writes:

>

> > contrary to what you have been led to believe, your body DOES need

some

> > carbs every day.....the brain especially needs it!

> > You do not have to count carbs after the DS although some like to

keep it at

> > 35 grams per meal......you only absorb about 50% of the carbs

(complex) you

> > eat. You do have to watch the simple carbs such as pies, cakes,

candy etc

> > and go easy on that. I dont pay any attention to calories, carbs

nor fat

> > and Im losing just fine!

> > I eat baked potatoes with butter, chili, grated cheese and sour

cream on

> > it......I eat some sweets every day......

> >

> > Judie

> >

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> >

August 14, 2001