Re: How many with High BMI? DOES IT REALLY MATTER?????

[Guest guest]

Hi Donna,

No sweat...chill!

1. Dr herron is one of the " top " surgeons.

2. Dr. Herron preffers lap..sort of a surgery geek if you get my

drift.

3. Why not leave it in his hands?

4 Remember...NO ONE starts off open and has to revert to lap, but a

Few have started lap but had to revert to open..OPEN IS STILL THE

STANDARD FOR SAFETY...

5. Open can be Easy!!!!! I should know. Dr Herron started lap on me

June 26, 2001...BMI 54, no complications. HE DECIDED to switch to

open half way thru, said my insides were tough for lap, and SEVEN AND

A HALF HOURS of surgery latter I had my new BPD/DS with Gallbladder

out. The man only cut me FOUR INCHS and I healed as if I had Lap...I

actually had 5 lap cuts, plus open incision! I was back to work 2 and

a half weeks latter, I feel GREAT, EAT GOOD, ALMOST NORMAL BOWELS and

am excited to be down 56 pounds in seven weeks. AGAIN, I FEEL GREAT!

6. My advice...open or lap, wait a little, or wait alot......the

FINAL RESULT IS GONNA PUT A BIG,BIG SMILE ON YOUR FACE AND PUT A

BIGGER SMILE IN YOUR SOUL.

Regards

Dan Berman

> Hi everyone ! Is there a 'standard' rule of thumb as to what a

good

> 'cut-off' point would be for considering

> open vs. lap ? My BMI is 46, which seems to be in the safe zone

for lap

> versus open, but I would love to

> hear anyone/everyone's thoughts/findings on this. I had nearly

decided to

> request an open be done, but

> then just yesterday in meeting with a local surgeon (my surgery

will take

> place in NY, and I live in NC, so I

> wanted to be sure there was a local surgeon who would be willing

to 'take

> me on' as a post-op WLS

> patient), he actually is very high on lap vs open for the normal

reasons;

> less invasive, less chance of

> infection, etc.

>

> My consult with Dr. Herron isn't until November 15th (unless they

have a

> cancellation), so I have plenty

> of time to torment myself going back and forth on this :-)

>

> Bye,

> Donna

>

>

>

>

>

>

susan4541@c...

> om To:

duodenalswitch@y...

>

cc:

> 08/14/2001 Subject: Re:

Re: How many with High BMI?

> 02:13

PM

> Please

respond

>

to

>

duodenalswitch

>

>

>

>

>

> In a message dated 8/13/2001 5:49:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

> chull1@s... writes:

>

> << I know if you were Dr. Anthone's patient he would have you do a

panni

> first and then do the DS. He also asks patients of that size to

> loose 50-100 lbs before surgery.

> >>

>

> I don't think Dr. A would recommend panni removal in all patients

with high

>

> BMI. I started with a BMI of 69, and was/am able to get around

okay. I

> think

> mobility is a big factor in his recommendation. Luckily, I didn't

need it.

> I

> do agree with you, however, in the risk factor with lap procedures

on

> higher

> BMI's. I had a friend that had MAJOR complications, and with all

her weight

>

> in front, as an after thought, her surgeon said she was probably

too large

> to

> do the procedure lap. She will have brain damage for the rest of

her life

> due

> to her serious complications. Needless to say, there is a major law

suit

> going on because of his negligence. I know more and more surgeons

are

> willing to perform lap procedures on higher BMI's and alot of them

are very

>

> successful. A different set of problems for each surgery I suppose.

It's a

> tough decision for some, but after what I saw my friend go through,

I would

>

> much rather opt for the longer recovery time.

>

> Kim

> Dr. Anthone

> 4/18/01-DGB/DS open

> -88 lbs

>

> --------------------------------------------------------------------

--

>

[Guest guest]

donna,

first week and a half a bit off kelter....since then perfect!

in hospital 4 days

go for it.........

> Dan,

>

> Wow ... I'm so glad you posted, because it just keeps adding to my

peace of

> mind to hear such

> wonderful stories from Dr. Herron's patients. The recovery must

just be a

> very individual thing,

> because I've talked with others that had to go open and had

horrendous

> recoveries; not

> necessarily surgical complications, but just a hard time with

mobility,

> pain, etc.

>

> 56 lbs in 7 weeks ... that's fantastic !!! I know you must feel as

tho

> you're on top of the

> world ... I would :-)

>

> So, you're not having any post-op complications ? No profuse

diarrhea,

> gas, stomach

> upsets, etc ? How long were you in the hospital ?

>

> I'm glad everything is going so well for you ... I hope it will

for me

> when I get there, also !!

>

> Bye,

> Donna

>

>

>

>

>

>

dberman2@opton

> line.net To:

duodenalswitch@y...

>

cc:

> 08/14/2001 Subject:

Re: How many with High BMI? DOES IT REALLY

> 04:36 PM

MATTER?????

> Please

respond

>

to

>

duodenalswitch

>

>

>

>

>

> Hi Donna,

>

> No sweat...chill!

>

> 1. Dr herron is one of the " top " surgeons.

> 2. Dr. Herron preffers lap..sort of a surgery geek if you get my

> drift.

> 3. Why not leave it in his hands?

> 4 Remember...NO ONE starts off open and has to revert to lap, but a

> Few have started lap but had to revert to open..OPEN IS STILL THE

> STANDARD FOR SAFETY...

> 5. Open can be Easy!!!!! I should know. Dr Herron started lap on me

> June 26, 2001...BMI 54, no complications. HE DECIDED to switch to

> open half way thru, said my insides were tough for lap, and SEVEN

AND

> A HALF HOURS of surgery latter I had my new BPD/DS with Gallbladder

> out. The man only cut me FOUR INCHS and I healed as if I had Lap...I

> actually had 5 lap cuts, plus open incision! I was back to work 2

and

> a half weeks latter, I feel GREAT, EAT GOOD, ALMOST NORMAL BOWELS

and

> am excited to be down 56 pounds in seven weeks. AGAIN, I FEEL GREAT!

>

> 6. My advice...open or lap, wait a little, or wait alot......the

> FINAL RESULT IS GONNA PUT A BIG,BIG SMILE ON YOUR FACE AND PUT A

> BIGGER SMILE IN YOUR SOUL.

>

> Regards

>

> Dan Berman

>

>

> > Hi everyone ! Is there a 'standard' rule of thumb as to what a

> good

> > 'cut-off' point would be for considering

> > open vs. lap ? My BMI is 46, which seems to be in the safe zone

> for lap

> > versus open, but I would love to

> > hear anyone/everyone's thoughts/findings on this. I had nearly

> decided to

> > request an open be done, but

> > then just yesterday in meeting with a local surgeon (my surgery

> will take

> > place in NY, and I live in NC, so I

> > wanted to be sure there was a local surgeon who would be willing

> to 'take

> > me on' as a post-op WLS

> > patient), he actually is very high on lap vs open for the normal

> reasons;

> > less invasive, less chance of

> > infection, etc.

> >

> > My consult with Dr. Herron isn't until November 15th (unless they

> have a

> > cancellation), so I have plenty

> > of time to torment myself going back and forth on this :-)

> >

> > Bye,

> > Donna

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

> >

> susan4541@c...

>

> > om To:

> duodenalswitch@y...

> >

> cc:

>

> > 08/14/2001 Subject: Re:

> Re: How many with High BMI?

> > 02:13

> PM

>

> > Please

> respond

>

> >

> to

>

> >

> duodenalswitch

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 8/13/2001 5:49:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

> > chull1@s... writes:

> >

> > << I know if you were Dr. Anthone's patient he would have you do a

> panni

> > first and then do the DS. He also asks patients of that size to

> > loose 50-100 lbs before surgery.

> > >>

> >

> > I don't think Dr. A would recommend panni removal in all patients

> with high

> >

> > BMI. I started with a BMI of 69, and was/am able to get around

> okay. I

> > think

> > mobility is a big factor in his recommendation. Luckily, I didn't

> need it.

> > I

> > do agree with you, however, in the risk factor with lap procedures

> on

> > higher

> > BMI's. I had a friend that had MAJOR complications, and with all

> her weight

> >

> > in front, as an after thought, her surgeon said she was probably

> too large

> > to

> > do the procedure lap. She will have brain damage for the rest of

> her life

> > due

> > to her serious complications. Needless to say, there is a major

law

> suit

> > going on because of his negligence. I know more and more surgeons

> are

> > willing to perform lap procedures on higher BMI's and alot of them

> are very

> >

> > successful. A different set of problems for each surgery I

suppose.

> It's a

> > tough decision for some, but after what I saw my friend go

through,

> I would

> >

> > much rather opt for the longer recovery time.

> >

> > Kim

> > Dr. Anthone

> > 4/18/01-DGB/DS open

> > -88 lbs

> >

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------

--

> --

> >

[Guest guest]

donna,

first week and a half a bit off kelter....since then perfect!

in hospital 4 days

go for it.........

> Dan,

>

> Wow ... I'm so glad you posted, because it just keeps adding to my

peace of

> mind to hear such

> wonderful stories from Dr. Herron's patients. The recovery must

just be a

> very individual thing,

> because I've talked with others that had to go open and had

horrendous

> recoveries; not

> necessarily surgical complications, but just a hard time with

mobility,

> pain, etc.

>

> 56 lbs in 7 weeks ... that's fantastic !!! I know you must feel as

tho

> you're on top of the

> world ... I would :-)

>

> So, you're not having any post-op complications ? No profuse

diarrhea,

> gas, stomach

> upsets, etc ? How long were you in the hospital ?

>

> I'm glad everything is going so well for you ... I hope it will

for me

> when I get there, also !!

>

> Bye,

> Donna

>

>

>

>

>

>

dberman2@opton

> line.net To:

duodenalswitch@y...

>

cc:

> 08/14/2001 Subject:

Re: How many with High BMI? DOES IT REALLY

> 04:36 PM

MATTER?????

> Please

respond

>

to

>

duodenalswitch

>

>

>

>

>

> Hi Donna,

>

> No sweat...chill!

>

> 1. Dr herron is one of the " top " surgeons.

> 2. Dr. Herron preffers lap..sort of a surgery geek if you get my

> drift.

> 3. Why not leave it in his hands?

> 4 Remember...NO ONE starts off open and has to revert to lap, but a

> Few have started lap but had to revert to open..OPEN IS STILL THE

> STANDARD FOR SAFETY...

> 5. Open can be Easy!!!!! I should know. Dr Herron started lap on me

> June 26, 2001...BMI 54, no complications. HE DECIDED to switch to

> open half way thru, said my insides were tough for lap, and SEVEN

AND

> A HALF HOURS of surgery latter I had my new BPD/DS with Gallbladder

> out. The man only cut me FOUR INCHS and I healed as if I had Lap...I

> actually had 5 lap cuts, plus open incision! I was back to work 2

and

> a half weeks latter, I feel GREAT, EAT GOOD, ALMOST NORMAL BOWELS

and

> am excited to be down 56 pounds in seven weeks. AGAIN, I FEEL GREAT!

>

> 6. My advice...open or lap, wait a little, or wait alot......the

> FINAL RESULT IS GONNA PUT A BIG,BIG SMILE ON YOUR FACE AND PUT A

> BIGGER SMILE IN YOUR SOUL.

>

> Regards

>

> Dan Berman

>

>

> > Hi everyone ! Is there a 'standard' rule of thumb as to what a

> good

> > 'cut-off' point would be for considering

> > open vs. lap ? My BMI is 46, which seems to be in the safe zone

> for lap

> > versus open, but I would love to

> > hear anyone/everyone's thoughts/findings on this. I had nearly

> decided to

> > request an open be done, but

> > then just yesterday in meeting with a local surgeon (my surgery

> will take

> > place in NY, and I live in NC, so I

> > wanted to be sure there was a local surgeon who would be willing

> to 'take

> > me on' as a post-op WLS

> > patient), he actually is very high on lap vs open for the normal

> reasons;

> > less invasive, less chance of

> > infection, etc.

> >

> > My consult with Dr. Herron isn't until November 15th (unless they

> have a

> > cancellation), so I have plenty

> > of time to torment myself going back and forth on this :-)

> >

> > Bye,

> > Donna

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

> >

> susan4541@c...

>

> > om To:

> duodenalswitch@y...

> >

> cc:

>

> > 08/14/2001 Subject: Re:

> Re: How many with High BMI?

> > 02:13

> PM

>

> > Please

> respond

>

> >

> to

>

> >

> duodenalswitch

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 8/13/2001 5:49:23 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

> > chull1@s... writes:

> >

> > << I know if you were Dr. Anthone's patient he would have you do a

> panni

> > first and then do the DS. He also asks patients of that size to

> > loose 50-100 lbs before surgery.

> > >>

> >

> > I don't think Dr. A would recommend panni removal in all patients

> with high

> >

> > BMI. I started with a BMI of 69, and was/am able to get around

> okay. I

> > think

> > mobility is a big factor in his recommendation. Luckily, I didn't

> need it.

> > I

> > do agree with you, however, in the risk factor with lap procedures

> on

> > higher

> > BMI's. I had a friend that had MAJOR complications, and with all

> her weight

> >

> > in front, as an after thought, her surgeon said she was probably

> too large

> > to

> > do the procedure lap. She will have brain damage for the rest of

> her life

> > due

> > to her serious complications. Needless to say, there is a major

law

> suit

> > going on because of his negligence. I know more and more surgeons

> are

> > willing to perform lap procedures on higher BMI's and alot of them

> are very

> >

> > successful. A different set of problems for each surgery I

suppose.

> It's a

> > tough decision for some, but after what I saw my friend go

through,

> I would

> >

> > much rather opt for the longer recovery time.

> >

> > Kim

> > Dr. Anthone

> > 4/18/01-DGB/DS open

> > -88 lbs

> >

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------

--

> --

> >

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/15/01 9:08:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

joostema@... writes:

> it just keeps adding to my peace of

> mind to hear such

> wonderful stories from Dr. Herron's patients. The recovery must just be a

> very individual thing,

> because I've talked with others that had to go open and had horrendous

> recoveries; not

> necessarily surgical complications, but just a hard time with mobility,

> pain, etc.

>

>

I had Dr Herron for my surgeon....lap converted to open due to a blood supply

problem with my intestine. No complications from the surgery. It pays to go

with experience.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/15/01 9:08:05 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

joostema@... writes:

> it just keeps adding to my peace of

> mind to hear such

> wonderful stories from Dr. Herron's patients. The recovery must just be a

> very individual thing,

> because I've talked with others that had to go open and had horrendous

> recoveries; not

> necessarily surgical complications, but just a hard time with mobility,

> pain, etc.

>

>

I had Dr Herron for my surgeon....lap converted to open due to a blood supply

problem with my intestine. No complications from the surgery. It pays to go

with experience.