Guest guest Posted August 17, 2001 Report Share Posted August 17, 2001 Hello Alyssa, I could totally understand why anyone would pick lap over open. The recovery time being the key ingredient. A while back someone posted something that stuck with me who ever you are I would give you credit if I could remember! Someone basically said lap or open recovery time will be smoother when you pick a surgeon who has perfected his technique with his chosen method i.e. lap or open. When I was researching surgery I went through all the doctors that performed WLS in network through my health insurance only one Doctor performed the DS. I knew I wanted to have the DS surgery. I looked at my financial situation and I knew that as much as I wanted to have my procedure performed lap that the money would be an issue (I am sorry but that was my reality). But to keep an open mind I also researched the other doctors that were out of network and went as far as to set up appointments and contacted their Insurance coordinators. I wanted to know what to expect as far as out of network. The first office I called the insurance coordinator was RUDE and did not want to bother with me when I said out of network. The second office I actually spoke with the surgeon who very curtly said you are out of network for me and said goodbye. I then ended up at my surgeons office. Dr. Macura only perform the DS open. I was not happy about that. When I went into my consult with him. I asked how many DS's he had performed. I believe that at that time he had done several hundred. He told me I was a " light weight " (yeah right) and that because of my " relatively " good health that I was a great candidate and saw no complications for me. So I thought about it for a while. I asked him why only did it open. He said he felt comfortable doing open surgery he liked going in and touching and fiddling with everything (hey whatever rocks his boat who am I to judge I prefer to shop for some shoes). I thought about it for a while and I was set to go to my consulation with the lap surgeon when the secretary called me and post-poned my inital consultation for another 3 months later. That is when I asked myself " well what do you want " the answer was the DS. So I had open DS monday. Thursday I was begging to go home. 3 weeks after surgery I was antsy and 4 weeks after surgery I was bored out of mind and I couldnt sit still long enough to " rest " I went back to work on my 5th week because hey why not I was getting paid. But I could have gotten back sooner. The important thing is to get as healthy as possible before suregery. So if you smoke please please please quit. And if it is possible (because it may not be) try and get some excersize. And do deep breathing (I happen to know of a certain past time that requires that) . Basically anything that will help you physically, mentally and emotionally prepare you for the enormity of the trauma (surgery is) on your body well better prepare you for your time after surgery. Ok I have bored the beejuses out of everyone on this list! Lisbeth (aka the long winded) Dr. Macura June 25, 2001 Alyssa wrote: Sigh...I have a problem, and I want to know what y'all think... --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2001 Report Share Posted August 17, 2001 Hello Alyssa, I could totally understand why anyone would pick lap over open. The recovery time being the key ingredient. A while back someone posted something that stuck with me who ever you are I would give you credit if I could remember! Someone basically said lap or open recovery time will be smoother when you pick a surgeon who has perfected his technique with his chosen method i.e. lap or open. When I was researching surgery I went through all the doctors that performed WLS in network through my health insurance only one Doctor performed the DS. I knew I wanted to have the DS surgery. I looked at my financial situation and I knew that as much as I wanted to have my procedure performed lap that the money would be an issue (I am sorry but that was my reality). But to keep an open mind I also researched the other doctors that were out of network and went as far as to set up appointments and contacted their Insurance coordinators. I wanted to know what to expect as far as out of network. The first office I called the insurance coordinator was RUDE and did not want to bother with me when I said out of network. The second office I actually spoke with the surgeon who very curtly said you are out of network for me and said goodbye. I then ended up at my surgeons office. Dr. Macura only perform the DS open. I was not happy about that. When I went into my consult with him. I asked how many DS's he had performed. I believe that at that time he had done several hundred. He told me I was a " light weight " (yeah right) and that because of my " relatively " good health that I was a great candidate and saw no complications for me. So I thought about it for a while. I asked him why only did it open. He said he felt comfortable doing open surgery he liked going in and touching and fiddling with everything (hey whatever rocks his boat who am I to judge I prefer to shop for some shoes). I thought about it for a while and I was set to go to my consulation with the lap surgeon when the secretary called me and post-poned my inital consultation for another 3 months later. That is when I asked myself " well what do you want " the answer was the DS. So I had open DS monday. Thursday I was begging to go home. 3 weeks after surgery I was antsy and 4 weeks after surgery I was bored out of mind and I couldnt sit still long enough to " rest " I went back to work on my 5th week because hey why not I was getting paid. But I could have gotten back sooner. The important thing is to get as healthy as possible before suregery. So if you smoke please please please quit. And if it is possible (because it may not be) try and get some excersize. And do deep breathing (I happen to know of a certain past time that requires that) . Basically anything that will help you physically, mentally and emotionally prepare you for the enormity of the trauma (surgery is) on your body well better prepare you for your time after surgery. Ok I have bored the beejuses out of everyone on this list! Lisbeth (aka the long winded) Dr. Macura June 25, 2001 Alyssa wrote: Sigh...I have a problem, and I want to know what y'all think... --------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2001 Report Share Posted August 17, 2001 Alyssa.. I was going to stay out of this one, but since you're concerned about time out of work... I say, don't worry about it.. things happen whether lap or open. I had lap DS on 5/30 of this year.. I was soo ready to get back to work... unfortunately, my new plumbing was less than ready.. so here I sit, 11 weeks out from surgery.. and totally healthy (as long as there is a bathroom withing bolting distance). Sometimes now I wish I hadn't been so determined to have a lap procedure.. cuz it hasn't helped me get back to work any sooner. If I went back in time, would I do it again? Yes.. but I'd choose the surgeon I liked most.. not the procedure I wanted to get. And the surgeon I would choose if I could have any of them would be Hess or Keshisian.. and they both prefer open. Besides.. a good friend went with Dr. K... her " huge " open incision was all of 4 inches long. Good luck in making your decision- Hugs, Liane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2001 Report Share Posted August 17, 2001 Alyssa.. I was going to stay out of this one, but since you're concerned about time out of work... I say, don't worry about it.. things happen whether lap or open. I had lap DS on 5/30 of this year.. I was soo ready to get back to work... unfortunately, my new plumbing was less than ready.. so here I sit, 11 weeks out from surgery.. and totally healthy (as long as there is a bathroom withing bolting distance). Sometimes now I wish I hadn't been so determined to have a lap procedure.. cuz it hasn't helped me get back to work any sooner. If I went back in time, would I do it again? Yes.. but I'd choose the surgeon I liked most.. not the procedure I wanted to get. And the surgeon I would choose if I could have any of them would be Hess or Keshisian.. and they both prefer open. Besides.. a good friend went with Dr. K... her " huge " open incision was all of 4 inches long. Good luck in making your decision- Hugs, Liane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2001 Report Share Posted August 17, 2001 Re: Lap DS or Lap RNY or open DS or...(long) >could remember! Someone basically said lap or open recovery time will be smoother when you pick a >surgeon who has perfected his technique with his chosen method i.e. lap or open. Wow...that makes perfect sense. Better a doctor who is comfortable with open than new or uncomfortable with lap? > The important thing is to get as healthy as possible before suregery. So if you smoke please please Aside from the possible sleep apnea and high cholesterol (and the extra 130 lbs), I " m pretty healthy. Yesterday, I did 40 minutes on the treadmill without any problem. I saw one post from someone recommending that pre-ops work hard on drinking enough water and eating plenty of protein to speed recovery...that made sense, too, so I've been working hard again at drinking more water than Diet Coke. Thank you, Lisbeth, for sharing your journey!! alyssa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2001 Report Share Posted August 17, 2001 Re: Lap DS or Lap RNY or open DS or...(long) >could remember! Someone basically said lap or open recovery time will be smoother when you pick a >surgeon who has perfected his technique with his chosen method i.e. lap or open. Wow...that makes perfect sense. Better a doctor who is comfortable with open than new or uncomfortable with lap? > The important thing is to get as healthy as possible before suregery. So if you smoke please please Aside from the possible sleep apnea and high cholesterol (and the extra 130 lbs), I " m pretty healthy. Yesterday, I did 40 minutes on the treadmill without any problem. I saw one post from someone recommending that pre-ops work hard on drinking enough water and eating plenty of protein to speed recovery...that made sense, too, so I've been working hard again at drinking more water than Diet Coke. Thank you, Lisbeth, for sharing your journey!! alyssa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2001 Report Share Posted August 17, 2001 Alyssa, You are doing the right thing by being proactive i.e. the treadmill, water and protein. I have the feeling you are going to have a much easier time post opt as a result! Please keep us posted. Lisbeth Dr. Macura June 25, 2001 Alyssa wrote: Re: Lap DS or Lap RNY or open DS or...(long) >could remember! Someone basically said lap or open recovery time will be smoother when you pick a >surgeon who has perfected his technique with his chosen method i.e. lap or open. Wow...that makes perfect sense. Better a doctor who is comfortable with open than new or uncomfortable with lap? > The important thing is to get as healthy as possible before suregery. So if you smoke please please Aside from the possible sleep apnea and high cholesterol (and the extra 130 lbs), I " m pretty healthy. Yesterday, I did 40 minutes on the treadmill without any problem. I saw one post from someone recommending that pre-ops work hard on drinking enough water and eating plenty of protein to speed recovery...that made sense, too, so I've been working hard again at drinking more water than Diet Coke. Thank you, Lisbeth, for sharing your journey!! alyssa ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 17, 2001 Report Share Posted August 17, 2001 Alyssa, You are doing the right thing by being proactive i.e. the treadmill, water and protein. I have the feeling you are going to have a much easier time post opt as a result! Please keep us posted. Lisbeth Dr. Macura June 25, 2001 Alyssa wrote: Re: Lap DS or Lap RNY or open DS or...(long) >could remember! Someone basically said lap or open recovery time will be smoother when you pick a >surgeon who has perfected his technique with his chosen method i.e. lap or open. Wow...that makes perfect sense. Better a doctor who is comfortable with open than new or uncomfortable with lap? > The important thing is to get as healthy as possible before suregery. So if you smoke please please Aside from the possible sleep apnea and high cholesterol (and the extra 130 lbs), I " m pretty healthy. Yesterday, I did 40 minutes on the treadmill without any problem. I saw one post from someone recommending that pre-ops work hard on drinking enough water and eating plenty of protein to speed recovery...that made sense, too, so I've been working hard again at drinking more water than Diet Coke. Thank you, Lisbeth, for sharing your journey!! alyssa ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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