Re: Please please read - Stanford letter

[Guest guest]

I think they need to update their information and be a bit more

truthful...sounds like they are acting like the DS doesn't exsist and since they

don't offer it...want people to believe what they offer is the only safe way to

go.

AJ

Dee wrote:

>Recently, I received a form letter from the Stanford

>Center for Bariatric Surgery. (No, I never wrote or

>called them). It is a spiel about WLS. In part, it

>says:

>

>WHAT ARE THE TYPES OF OPERATIONS THAT MAY BE DONE TO

>PRODUCE WEIGHT LOSS?

>

>Operations to assist with weight loss can be broken

>down loosely into gastric restriction operations and

>malabsorptive operations.

>

>In general, malabsorprive operations are more

>effective than gastric restrictive operations, but

>carry a high incidence of serious complications and

>are very rarely performed any longer. Malabsorptive

>operations work by bypassing the majority of the small

>intestine and sometimes the stomach as well. Their

>basic mechanism of action is to produce continuous

>diarrhea and inability to absorb food. Unfortunately,

>though quite effective at producing weight loss, these

>operations are also recognized to produce metabolic

>side effects that may be devastating, irreversible,

>and even fatal. They are seldom performed any longer.

>

>For all practical purposes only gastric restrictive

>operations are commonly performed, and these are the

>only operations that are performed at Stanford. These

>act primarily (but not exclusively) by restricting the

>amount that can be eaten at any one time. In

>practice, only the Roux Y Gastric Bypass is performed

>any longer except in very unusual circumstances.

>

>Please please tell me they were not dissing the

>duodenalswitch. If they were, it's terribly

>misleading, to say the least.

>

>

>

>=====

>Dee

>Waiting for Ins. Co. Approval

>313/Want to be 165

>

>__________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

> Recently, I received a form letter from the Stanford

> Center for Bariatric Surgery. (No, I never wrote or

> called them). It is a spiel about WLS. In part, it

> says:

<snip>

I wonder how they got your name/address then? I hate it when I get

stuff unsolicited like that!

> Please please tell me they were not dissing the

> duodenalswitch. If they were, it's terribly

> misleading, to say the least.

Yep...they're dissin' it...and being quite melodramatic about it, too.

It looks like they're referring to the JIB or otherwise referring to

old procedures. They state: " They are seldom performed any longer. "

whereas the DS has been increasingly performed.

They only do RNY at Stanford; same with UCSF. I'm actually kinda

surprised that the only teaching hospitals doing DS appears to be NYU

and USC, but that's the way it is. Some people feel that all teaching/

university hospitals are on the " cutting edge " of everything (not that

they aren't in some areas) and if they receive something like this from

Stanford, they'll believe it. Sad.

-M

[Guest guest]

Dee,

I would consider this more of a 'sales' letter than anything based on scientific

facts. They just want you to buy the product that they provide!

Anita

Pre-op in Denver

> Recently, I received a form letter from the Stanford

> Center for Bariatric Surgery. (No, I never wrote or

> called them). It is a spiel about WLS. In part, it

> says:

>

> WHAT ARE THE TYPES OF OPERATIONS THAT MAY BE DONE TO

> PRODUCE WEIGHT LOSS?

>

> Operations to assist with weight loss can be broken

> down loosely into gastric restriction operations and

> malabsorptive operations.

>

> In general, malabsorprive operations are more

> effective than gastric restrictive operations, but

> carry a high incidence of serious complications and

> are very rarely performed any longer. Malabsorptive

> operations work by bypassing the majority of the small

> intestine and sometimes the stomach as well. Their

> basic mechanism of action is to produce continuous

> diarrhea and inability to absorb food. Unfortunately,

> though quite effective at producing weight loss, these

> operations are also recognized to produce metabolic

> side effects that may be devastating, irreversible,

> and even fatal. They are seldom performed any longer.

>

> For all practical purposes only gastric restrictive

> operations are commonly performed, and these are the

> only operations that are performed at Stanford. These

> act primarily (but not exclusively) by restricting the

> amount that can be eaten at any one time. In

> practice, only the Roux Y Gastric Bypass is performed

> any longer except in very unusual circumstances.

>

> Please please tell me they were not dissing the

> duodenalswitch. If they were, it's terribly

> misleading, to say the least.

>

>

>

> =====

> Dee

> Waiting for Ins. Co. Approval

> 313/Want to be 165

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

This sounds like something that was written ten years ago. What a bunch of

yahoos!! No offense to Yahoo.com

Good grief--they must have surgeons that are certified by the ASBS and go to

their conferences. This almost sounds like something crazy Sue is writing.

I would check out the Stanford website just to make sure this wasn't spam

from some surgery program. Since I registered on Obesityhelp.com when I was

first researching wls, I have been getting ems from various program

directors and even stuff in the mail!! So they are selling our information

to any yahoo who'll pay for it.

Pammi

--

Recently, I received a form letter from the Stanford

Center for Bariatric Surgery. (No, I never wrote or

called them). It is a spiel about WLS. In part, it

says:

WHAT ARE THE TYPES OF OPERATIONS THAT MAY BE DONE TO

PRODUCE WEIGHT LOSS?

Operations to assist with weight loss can be broken

down loosely into gastric restriction operations and

malabsorptive operations.

In general, malabsorprive operations are more

effective than gastric restrictive operations, but

carry a high incidence of serious complications and

are very rarely performed any longer. Malabsorptive

operations work by bypassing the majority of the small

intestine and sometimes the stomach as well. Their

basic mechanism of action is to produce continuous

diarrhea and inability to absorb food. Unfortunately,

though quite effective at producing weight loss, these

operations are also recognized to produce metabolic

side effects that may be devastating, irreversible,

and even fatal. They are seldom performed any longer.

For all practical purposes only gastric restrictive

operations are commonly performed, and these are the

only operations that are performed at Stanford. These

act primarily (but not exclusively) by restricting the

amount that can be eaten at any one time. In

practice, only the Roux Y Gastric Bypass is performed

any longer except in very unusual circumstances.

Please please tell me they were not dissing the

duodenalswitch. If they were, it's terribly

misleading, to say the least.

=====

Dee

Waiting for Ins. Co. Approval

313/Want to be 165

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/20/01 6:47:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

donna_lee777@... writes:

> Please please tell me they were not dissing the

> duodenalswitch. If they were, it's terribly

> misleading, to say the least.

>

Obviously there is a ton of misinformation. I would hope to think about they

were talking about the old version of the DS but who am I kidding? Sounds

like they were bashing the DS. What's this they say about the RNY not being

malabsorptive? Maybe this guy wants to promote VBG's or the newer surgery

but after reading what you sent, I know I would never trust him.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/20/01 6:47:08 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

donna_lee777@... writes:

> Please please tell me they were not dissing the

> duodenalswitch. If they were, it's terribly

> misleading, to say the least.

>

Obviously there is a ton of misinformation. I would hope to think about they

were talking about the old version of the DS but who am I kidding? Sounds

like they were bashing the DS. What's this they say about the RNY not being

malabsorptive? Maybe this guy wants to promote VBG's or the newer surgery

but after reading what you sent, I know I would never trust him.

[Guest guest]

Please please read - Stanford letter

> Please please tell me they were not dissing the

> duodenalswitch. If they were, it's terribly

> misleading, to say the least.

That's EXACTLY what they were doing. I love how they neglected to mention

that RNYers have the same risk for malnutrition as DSers.

alyssa

[Guest guest]

You know, Pam, I think you're right about the

obesityhelp.com. That's the only place I've put out

my address as respects WLS. And it was the real deal

from Stanford unless someone ripped off their

letterhead and had a stamp made up for the return addy

on the envelope.

I really respect Stanford but not when they pass

around mis-information.

Take care,

dee

--- Pam Bilyeu wrote:

> This sounds like something that was written ten

> years ago. What a bunch of

> yahoos!! No offense to Yahoo.com

>

> Good grief--they must have surgeons that are

> certified by the ASBS and go to

> their conferences. This almost sounds like

> something crazy Sue is writing.

>

> I would check out the Stanford website just to make

> sure this wasn't spam

> from some surgery program. Since I registered on

> Obesityhelp.com when I was

> first researching wls, I have been getting ems from

> various program

> directors and even stuff in the mail!! So they are

> selling our information

> to any yahoo who'll pay for it.

>

> Pammi

>

> --

> Recently, I received a form letter from the Stanford

> Center for Bariatric Surgery. (No, I never wrote or

> called them). It is a spiel about WLS. In part, it

> says:

>

> WHAT ARE THE TYPES OF OPERATIONS THAT MAY BE DONE TO

> PRODUCE WEIGHT LOSS?

>

> Operations to assist with weight loss can be broken

> down loosely into gastric restriction operations and

> malabsorptive operations.

>

> In general, malabsorprive operations are more

> effective than gastric restrictive operations, but

> carry a high incidence of serious complications and

> are very rarely performed any longer. Malabsorptive

> operations work by bypassing the majority of the

> small

> intestine and sometimes the stomach as well. Their

> basic mechanism of action is to produce continuous

> diarrhea and inability to absorb food.

> Unfortunately,

> though quite effective at producing weight loss,

> these

> operations are also recognized to produce metabolic

> side effects that may be devastating, irreversible,

> and even fatal. They are seldom performed any

> longer.

>

> For all practical purposes only gastric restrictive

> operations are commonly performed, and these are the

> only operations that are performed at Stanford.

> These

> act primarily (but not exclusively) by restricting

> the

> amount that can be eaten at any one time. In

> practice, only the Roux Y Gastric Bypass is

> performed

> any longer except in very unusual circumstances.

>

> Please please tell me they were not dissing the

> duodenalswitch. If they were, it's terribly

> misleading, to say the least.

>

>

>

> =====

> Dee

> Waiting for Ins. Co. Approval

> 313/Want to be 165

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

This is a good one for Gayle Hand to reply to. She's a nurse there

and had her DS in Portland with Dr Welker.

Have to alert her to this post

in Seattle

> Recently, I received a form letter from the Stanford

> Center for Bariatric Surgery. (No, I never wrote or

> called them). It is a spiel about WLS. In part, it

> says:

>

> WHAT ARE THE TYPES OF OPERATIONS THAT MAY BE DONE TO

> PRODUCE WEIGHT LOSS?

>

[Guest guest]

This is a good one for Gayle Hand to reply to. She's a nurse there

and had her DS in Portland with Dr Welker.

Have to alert her to this post

in Seattle

> Recently, I received a form letter from the Stanford

> Center for Bariatric Surgery. (No, I never wrote or

> called them). It is a spiel about WLS. In part, it

> says:

>

> WHAT ARE THE TYPES OF OPERATIONS THAT MAY BE DONE TO

> PRODUCE WEIGHT LOSS?

>

[Guest guest]

did they provide an e-mail address??? Time for education of the

stuffed shirts

in Seattle

> Recently, I received a form letter from the Stanford

> Center for Bariatric Surgery. (No, I never wrote or

> called them). It is a spiel about WLS. In part, it

> says:

>

> WHAT ARE THE TYPES OF OPERATIONS THAT MAY BE DONE TO

> PRODUCE WEIGHT LOSS?

[Guest guest]

did they provide an e-mail address??? Time for education of the

stuffed shirts

in Seattle

> Recently, I received a form letter from the Stanford

> Center for Bariatric Surgery. (No, I never wrote or

> called them). It is a spiel about WLS. In part, it

> says:

>

> WHAT ARE THE TYPES OF OPERATIONS THAT MAY BE DONE TO

> PRODUCE WEIGHT LOSS?

[Guest guest]

Hi , no there is no email addy on the letter.

There are phone and fax numbers as well as the address

for Stanford. I'll post the entire letter in 3

parts... it's just too long for me to type at one

time.

dee

--- marym@... wrote:

> did they provide an e-mail address??? Time for

> education of the

> stuffed shirts

>

> in Seattle

>

>

> > Recently, I received a form letter from the

> Stanford

> > Center for Bariatric Surgery. (No, I never wrote

> or

> > called them). It is a spiel about WLS. In part,

> it

> > says:

> >

> > WHAT ARE THE TYPES OF OPERATIONS THAT MAY BE DONE

> TO

> > PRODUCE WEIGHT LOSS?

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi , no there is no email addy on the letter.

There are phone and fax numbers as well as the address

for Stanford. I'll post the entire letter in 3

parts... it's just too long for me to type at one

time.

dee

--- marym@... wrote:

> did they provide an e-mail address??? Time for

> education of the

> stuffed shirts

>

> in Seattle

>

>

> > Recently, I received a form letter from the

> Stanford

> > Center for Bariatric Surgery. (No, I never wrote

> or

> > called them). It is a spiel about WLS. In part,

> it

> > says:

> >

> > WHAT ARE THE TYPES OF OPERATIONS THAT MAY BE DONE

> TO

> > PRODUCE WEIGHT LOSS?

>

>

>

>

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