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Is it too tight? Or is the tongue bunching up under neath the strap? I

mentioned before I have trimmed the tongues out of both pair of shoes

we have used because there was just too much material to lay across his foot

smoothly.

In the mean time you (duh) need to work on healing it yet not losing correction

and that of course is the constant challenge we face with these things. I'm

sorry, I'm really no help :(

s.

Re: Talked to about the heel counter issue

is in the s and has been for over a year now. We got him a new

pair in April and for some reason, he's got a small open sore where the middle

strap is... It's always been red there but it's never bothered him.. and last

night I noticed it's opened. He's never had any problems with the heels tho..

Any suggestions?

Thanks

&

-------------- Original message --------------

Well, I finally got a chance to call Iowa yesterday. I talked to

Jeanne during the day and sent her the pics that I had of Darbi's

holed PM's and her sores. I'd sent them to Todd a couple of weeks

back but hadn't heard back and I'm not sure why but was not

aware of this problem. Glad to hear now they have dsl at the new

office and the pic emails went through fine. They are still in the

process of building the new shop in town but and Todd are still

working at the old place (which happens to be the 's home)

till the new one is done. Funny, they have to go to town to go to

work now lol!

So called me back in the evening and we talked for quite a

while. He agrees with me about the heel counter and could see

exactly what I was talking about from the pics. I am thrilled that I

was able to convey all that I needed to with those pics and he's

absolutely in agreement about this issue. Poor man keeps apologizing

to me (as did Jeanne) agonizing about how he never wanted to cause

children to have pain and sores... he just wants to help

them. <sigh> I told him I wasn't upset at all and I knew they were

breaking ground on these larger shoes and this kind of thing runs

with the territory. In the end they'll have a perfect shoe designed

for older kids. He is very accepting to constructive criticism and

is pleased to hear from parents in this way. It just so happened

that my daughter seems to be the guinea pig for FAB improvements in

the past couple of years. Poor kid... But if her problems help them

improve the shoes so no one else has issues... it's worth it I

think. I doubt she'll be permanently damaged from having owies for a

few weeks.

So what the plan is now, is that he's going to send me a couple of

impression kits and I'm going to lay the back of her heel into it so

he can make a plaster cast and see exactly where the new heel counter

should be. If this works, some of you who have older children in

sizes 4 and up (maybe 3, but he and I were thinking 4, 5, and 6

should be considered at first - input from parents of babes in sizes

2 and 3 please pipe up if you think those sizes/ages should be

investigated too) may hear from him asking you to make impressions of

your child's heels so he can figure out where each size's heel

counter should be. I think he needs to look at more than Darbi's

feet to know where the happy medium is for the average foot. Or

perhaps he'll decide that in addition to the impressions he already

has us do normally that he'll just ask for the heel impression

too. That way he could really make these individually for each

child. But he is going to work on this issue and I hope to have new

shoes with a proper heel counter for Darbi soon to test out. Soon

would be great since she does have TWO broken pairs of shoes now.

We talked about the recent problems I've seen online with the 4 sets

of shoes that have split in the back (which include our new pair with

the rivets). I think it might be that he got a bubble in the mold

because on Darbi's shoes when I put the rubber back together I can

see that there's a little indent right where it split that looks like

a tiny air bubble. Maybe it was a piece of sand or something in the

mold when he poured them? I don't know if the other shoes that have

split have this bubble but ours do and I can see how that may make

them split right there. I'm pretty sure the others split because I

holed them though. In talking about this he mentioned that older

walkers are pretty hard on these shoes and he's working on ways to

decrease the pressure/force on the rubber for older children. The

insole may have to be thicker in big kids shoes so they don't split

like this, who knows. One idea he'd passed by Dr. Ponseti this week

was to make the sole in the front flexible so that when they crouch

down the shoe acts like a normal shoe and flexes at the toes. He

thinks this may take some of the pressure off the back of the shoes

because the only way they can flex now is at the ankles and heel

area. We also talked (again) about putting some rubbery stuff on the

soles so that these kids aren't slipping and sliding on hardwoods or

linoleum floors. I think the combination of the flexible sole and

something that will grip the smooth floors will have our children

walking unaided in no time!! If Dr. Ponseti doesn't disagree with

the flexible sole idea I think we may see some cool shoes come out

soon! It didn't sound like Dr. P. had shot that idea down so there's

hope there!

I told him I really liked the rivets, they are perfect for fitting

the straps exactly where each individual child needs them most. I

suggested that they break the straps free before shipping them out

because so far the two pairs I've seen like this were stiffly fixed

in one position till you break them free and swivel them a bit, some

parents may not notice that this can be done.

We also talked about Christee's current issue with the buckle digging

into Lilee's foot. He said there was one other child who had this

issue and his suggestion was for mole skin for them but he's

brainstorming if he can make the tongue longer on the very small

shoes so that it goes under both the middle and lower strap to

protect baby from this happening. I don't see it happening on the

larger shoes like Darbi has but maybe because the straps are so close

together on the tiny ones and their feet are still so puffy that they

need this modification. I'm hoping that when Christee gets there

that he will be able to go to Iowa City and meet with them before

Lilee is casted so he can see this for himself.

I think that's it... If I remember something else I'll post it. But

I think this is all good news and hopefully by the time most of you

who have little ones in these shoes are ready for the larger ones

he'll have the heel counter thing all figured out.

Contact info for MD Orthopaedics ( )

1-877- PONSETI

mdortho@...

I don't have their address right here sorry... but it's been posted

recently and you can always call the above number.

Kori

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Is it too tight? Or is the tongue bunching up under neath the strap? I

mentioned before I have trimmed the tongues out of both pair of shoes

we have used because there was just too much material to lay across his foot

smoothly.

In the mean time you (duh) need to work on healing it yet not losing correction

and that of course is the constant challenge we face with these things. I'm

sorry, I'm really no help :(

s.

Re: Talked to about the heel counter issue

is in the s and has been for over a year now. We got him a new

pair in April and for some reason, he's got a small open sore where the middle

strap is... It's always been red there but it's never bothered him.. and last

night I noticed it's opened. He's never had any problems with the heels tho..

Any suggestions?

Thanks

&

-------------- Original message --------------

Well, I finally got a chance to call Iowa yesterday. I talked to

Jeanne during the day and sent her the pics that I had of Darbi's

holed PM's and her sores. I'd sent them to Todd a couple of weeks

back but hadn't heard back and I'm not sure why but was not

aware of this problem. Glad to hear now they have dsl at the new

office and the pic emails went through fine. They are still in the

process of building the new shop in town but and Todd are still

working at the old place (which happens to be the 's home)

till the new one is done. Funny, they have to go to town to go to

work now lol!

So called me back in the evening and we talked for quite a

while. He agrees with me about the heel counter and could see

exactly what I was talking about from the pics. I am thrilled that I

was able to convey all that I needed to with those pics and he's

absolutely in agreement about this issue. Poor man keeps apologizing

to me (as did Jeanne) agonizing about how he never wanted to cause

children to have pain and sores... he just wants to help

them. <sigh> I told him I wasn't upset at all and I knew they were

breaking ground on these larger shoes and this kind of thing runs

with the territory. In the end they'll have a perfect shoe designed

for older kids. He is very accepting to constructive criticism and

is pleased to hear from parents in this way. It just so happened

that my daughter seems to be the guinea pig for FAB improvements in

the past couple of years. Poor kid... But if her problems help them

improve the shoes so no one else has issues... it's worth it I

think. I doubt she'll be permanently damaged from having owies for a

few weeks.

So what the plan is now, is that he's going to send me a couple of

impression kits and I'm going to lay the back of her heel into it so

he can make a plaster cast and see exactly where the new heel counter

should be. If this works, some of you who have older children in

sizes 4 and up (maybe 3, but he and I were thinking 4, 5, and 6

should be considered at first - input from parents of babes in sizes

2 and 3 please pipe up if you think those sizes/ages should be

investigated too) may hear from him asking you to make impressions of

your child's heels so he can figure out where each size's heel

counter should be. I think he needs to look at more than Darbi's

feet to know where the happy medium is for the average foot. Or

perhaps he'll decide that in addition to the impressions he already

has us do normally that he'll just ask for the heel impression

too. That way he could really make these individually for each

child. But he is going to work on this issue and I hope to have new

shoes with a proper heel counter for Darbi soon to test out. Soon

would be great since she does have TWO broken pairs of shoes now.

We talked about the recent problems I've seen online with the 4 sets

of shoes that have split in the back (which include our new pair with

the rivets). I think it might be that he got a bubble in the mold

because on Darbi's shoes when I put the rubber back together I can

see that there's a little indent right where it split that looks like

a tiny air bubble. Maybe it was a piece of sand or something in the

mold when he poured them? I don't know if the other shoes that have

split have this bubble but ours do and I can see how that may make

them split right there. I'm pretty sure the others split because I

holed them though. In talking about this he mentioned that older

walkers are pretty hard on these shoes and he's working on ways to

decrease the pressure/force on the rubber for older children. The

insole may have to be thicker in big kids shoes so they don't split

like this, who knows. One idea he'd passed by Dr. Ponseti this week

was to make the sole in the front flexible so that when they crouch

down the shoe acts like a normal shoe and flexes at the toes. He

thinks this may take some of the pressure off the back of the shoes

because the only way they can flex now is at the ankles and heel

area. We also talked (again) about putting some rubbery stuff on the

soles so that these kids aren't slipping and sliding on hardwoods or

linoleum floors. I think the combination of the flexible sole and

something that will grip the smooth floors will have our children

walking unaided in no time!! If Dr. Ponseti doesn't disagree with

the flexible sole idea I think we may see some cool shoes come out

soon! It didn't sound like Dr. P. had shot that idea down so there's

hope there!

I told him I really liked the rivets, they are perfect for fitting

the straps exactly where each individual child needs them most. I

suggested that they break the straps free before shipping them out

because so far the two pairs I've seen like this were stiffly fixed

in one position till you break them free and swivel them a bit, some

parents may not notice that this can be done.

We also talked about Christee's current issue with the buckle digging

into Lilee's foot. He said there was one other child who had this

issue and his suggestion was for mole skin for them but he's

brainstorming if he can make the tongue longer on the very small

shoes so that it goes under both the middle and lower strap to

protect baby from this happening. I don't see it happening on the

larger shoes like Darbi has but maybe because the straps are so close

together on the tiny ones and their feet are still so puffy that they

need this modification. I'm hoping that when Christee gets there

that he will be able to go to Iowa City and meet with them before

Lilee is casted so he can see this for himself.

I think that's it... If I remember something else I'll post it. But

I think this is all good news and hopefully by the time most of you

who have little ones in these shoes are ready for the larger ones

he'll have the heel counter thing all figured out.

Contact info for MD Orthopaedics ( )

1-877- PONSETI

mdortho@...

I don't have their address right here sorry... but it's been posted

recently and you can always call the above number.

Kori

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Hmmm, that is puzzling. Maybe just one night there happened to be a " pill " in

his sock that pressed all night. Is it getting better or worse now, can you

tell?

s.

----- Original

See that's just it.. We've never had a problem before. It's been " all of a

sudden " . It's no tighter than I've ever put them before. Nothing really has

changed. Thanks tho :)

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Hmmm, that is puzzling. Maybe just one night there happened to be a " pill " in

his sock that pressed all night. Is it getting better or worse now, can you

tell?

s.

----- Original

See that's just it.. We've never had a problem before. It's been " all of a

sudden " . It's no tighter than I've ever put them before. Nothing really has

changed. Thanks tho :)

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WOW Kori,

Good for you, you go girl! We don't personally need the 's

but I know that for a lot of kids, they are essential and that

without them they would be looking at possible surgeries.

I think everyone who has a child that is going to wear these shoes

owes you a big thanks for caring and spending the time to help

improve upon the design of these shoes. This will be the template for

all his other larger sizes right? You should be proud of yourself!

\\\\\\\\\\\\ this is me giving you a big pat on the back!!

& Grace

>

> Well, I finally got a chance to call Iowa yesterday. I talked to

> Jeanne during the day and sent her the pics that I had of Darbi's

> holed PM's and her sores. I'd sent them to Todd a couple of weeks

> back but hadn't heard back and I'm not sure why but was not

> aware of this problem. Glad to hear now they have dsl at the new

> office and the pic emails went through fine. They are still in the

> process of building the new shop in town but and Todd are

still

> working at the old place (which happens to be the 's home)

> till the new one is done. Funny, they have to go to town to go to

> work now lol!

>

> So called me back in the evening and we talked for quite a

> while. He agrees with me about the heel counter and could see

> exactly what I was talking about from the pics. I am thrilled that

I

> was able to convey all that I needed to with those pics and he's

> absolutely in agreement about this issue. Poor man keeps

apologizing

> to me (as did Jeanne) agonizing about how he never wanted to cause

> children to have pain and sores... he just wants to help

> them. <sigh> I told him I wasn't upset at all and I knew they

were

> breaking ground on these larger shoes and this kind of thing runs

> with the territory. In the end they'll have a perfect shoe

designed

> for older kids. He is very accepting to constructive criticism and

> is pleased to hear from parents in this way. It just so happened

> that my daughter seems to be the guinea pig for FAB improvements in

> the past couple of years. Poor kid... But if her problems help

them

> improve the shoes so no one else has issues... it's worth it I

> think. I doubt she'll be permanently damaged from having owies for

a

> few weeks.

>

> So what the plan is now, is that he's going to send me a couple of

> impression kits and I'm going to lay the back of her heel into it

so

> he can make a plaster cast and see exactly where the new heel

counter

> should be. If this works, some of you who have older children in

> sizes 4 and up (maybe 3, but he and I were thinking 4, 5, and 6

> should be considered at first - input from parents of babes in

sizes

> 2 and 3 please pipe up if you think those sizes/ages should be

> investigated too) may hear from him asking you to make impressions

of

> your child's heels so he can figure out where each size's heel

> counter should be. I think he needs to look at more than Darbi's

> feet to know where the happy medium is for the average foot. Or

> perhaps he'll decide that in addition to the impressions he already

> has us do normally that he'll just ask for the heel impression

> too. That way he could really make these individually for each

> child. But he is going to work on this issue and I hope to have

new

> shoes with a proper heel counter for Darbi soon to test out. Soon

> would be great since she does have TWO broken pairs of shoes now.

>

> We talked about the recent problems I've seen online with the 4

sets

> of shoes that have split in the back (which include our new pair

with

> the rivets). I think it might be that he got a bubble in the mold

> because on Darbi's shoes when I put the rubber back together I can

> see that there's a little indent right where it split that looks

like

> a tiny air bubble. Maybe it was a piece of sand or something in

the

> mold when he poured them? I don't know if the other shoes that

have

> split have this bubble but ours do and I can see how that may make

> them split right there. I'm pretty sure the others split because I

> holed them though. In talking about this he mentioned that older

> walkers are pretty hard on these shoes and he's working on ways to

> decrease the pressure/force on the rubber for older children. The

> insole may have to be thicker in big kids shoes so they don't split

> like this, who knows. One idea he'd passed by Dr. Ponseti this

week

> was to make the sole in the front flexible so that when they crouch

> down the shoe acts like a normal shoe and flexes at the toes. He

> thinks this may take some of the pressure off the back of the shoes

> because the only way they can flex now is at the ankles and heel

> area. We also talked (again) about putting some rubbery stuff on

the

> soles so that these kids aren't slipping and sliding on hardwoods

or

> linoleum floors. I think the combination of the flexible sole and

> something that will grip the smooth floors will have our children

> walking unaided in no time!! If Dr. Ponseti doesn't disagree with

> the flexible sole idea I think we may see some cool shoes come out

> soon! It didn't sound like Dr. P. had shot that idea down so

there's

> hope there!

>

> I told him I really liked the rivets, they are perfect for fitting

> the straps exactly where each individual child needs them most. I

> suggested that they break the straps free before shipping them out

> because so far the two pairs I've seen like this were stiffly fixed

> in one position till you break them free and swivel them a bit,

some

> parents may not notice that this can be done.

>

> We also talked about Christee's current issue with the buckle

digging

> into Lilee's foot. He said there was one other child who had this

> issue and his suggestion was for mole skin for them but he's

> brainstorming if he can make the tongue longer on the very small

> shoes so that it goes under both the middle and lower strap to

> protect baby from this happening. I don't see it happening on the

> larger shoes like Darbi has but maybe because the straps are so

close

> together on the tiny ones and their feet are still so puffy that

they

> need this modification. I'm hoping that when Christee gets there

> that he will be able to go to Iowa City and meet with them before

> Lilee is casted so he can see this for himself.

>

> I think that's it... If I remember something else I'll post it.

But

> I think this is all good news and hopefully by the time most of you

> who have little ones in these shoes are ready for the larger ones

> he'll have the heel counter thing all figured out.

>

>

> Contact info for MD Orthopaedics ( )

>

> 1-877- PONSETI

>

> mdortho@f...

>

> I don't have their address right here sorry... but it's been

posted

> recently and you can always call the above number.

>

> Kori

>

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WOW Kori,

Good for you, you go girl! We don't personally need the 's

but I know that for a lot of kids, they are essential and that

without them they would be looking at possible surgeries.

I think everyone who has a child that is going to wear these shoes

owes you a big thanks for caring and spending the time to help

improve upon the design of these shoes. This will be the template for

all his other larger sizes right? You should be proud of yourself!

\\\\\\\\\\\\ this is me giving you a big pat on the back!!

& Grace

>

> Well, I finally got a chance to call Iowa yesterday. I talked to

> Jeanne during the day and sent her the pics that I had of Darbi's

> holed PM's and her sores. I'd sent them to Todd a couple of weeks

> back but hadn't heard back and I'm not sure why but was not

> aware of this problem. Glad to hear now they have dsl at the new

> office and the pic emails went through fine. They are still in the

> process of building the new shop in town but and Todd are

still

> working at the old place (which happens to be the 's home)

> till the new one is done. Funny, they have to go to town to go to

> work now lol!

>

> So called me back in the evening and we talked for quite a

> while. He agrees with me about the heel counter and could see

> exactly what I was talking about from the pics. I am thrilled that

I

> was able to convey all that I needed to with those pics and he's

> absolutely in agreement about this issue. Poor man keeps

apologizing

> to me (as did Jeanne) agonizing about how he never wanted to cause

> children to have pain and sores... he just wants to help

> them. <sigh> I told him I wasn't upset at all and I knew they

were

> breaking ground on these larger shoes and this kind of thing runs

> with the territory. In the end they'll have a perfect shoe

designed

> for older kids. He is very accepting to constructive criticism and

> is pleased to hear from parents in this way. It just so happened

> that my daughter seems to be the guinea pig for FAB improvements in

> the past couple of years. Poor kid... But if her problems help

them

> improve the shoes so no one else has issues... it's worth it I

> think. I doubt she'll be permanently damaged from having owies for

a

> few weeks.

>

> So what the plan is now, is that he's going to send me a couple of

> impression kits and I'm going to lay the back of her heel into it

so

> he can make a plaster cast and see exactly where the new heel

counter

> should be. If this works, some of you who have older children in

> sizes 4 and up (maybe 3, but he and I were thinking 4, 5, and 6

> should be considered at first - input from parents of babes in

sizes

> 2 and 3 please pipe up if you think those sizes/ages should be

> investigated too) may hear from him asking you to make impressions

of

> your child's heels so he can figure out where each size's heel

> counter should be. I think he needs to look at more than Darbi's

> feet to know where the happy medium is for the average foot. Or

> perhaps he'll decide that in addition to the impressions he already

> has us do normally that he'll just ask for the heel impression

> too. That way he could really make these individually for each

> child. But he is going to work on this issue and I hope to have

new

> shoes with a proper heel counter for Darbi soon to test out. Soon

> would be great since she does have TWO broken pairs of shoes now.

>

> We talked about the recent problems I've seen online with the 4

sets

> of shoes that have split in the back (which include our new pair

with

> the rivets). I think it might be that he got a bubble in the mold

> because on Darbi's shoes when I put the rubber back together I can

> see that there's a little indent right where it split that looks

like

> a tiny air bubble. Maybe it was a piece of sand or something in

the

> mold when he poured them? I don't know if the other shoes that

have

> split have this bubble but ours do and I can see how that may make

> them split right there. I'm pretty sure the others split because I

> holed them though. In talking about this he mentioned that older

> walkers are pretty hard on these shoes and he's working on ways to

> decrease the pressure/force on the rubber for older children. The

> insole may have to be thicker in big kids shoes so they don't split

> like this, who knows. One idea he'd passed by Dr. Ponseti this

week

> was to make the sole in the front flexible so that when they crouch

> down the shoe acts like a normal shoe and flexes at the toes. He

> thinks this may take some of the pressure off the back of the shoes

> because the only way they can flex now is at the ankles and heel

> area. We also talked (again) about putting some rubbery stuff on

the

> soles so that these kids aren't slipping and sliding on hardwoods

or

> linoleum floors. I think the combination of the flexible sole and

> something that will grip the smooth floors will have our children

> walking unaided in no time!! If Dr. Ponseti doesn't disagree with

> the flexible sole idea I think we may see some cool shoes come out

> soon! It didn't sound like Dr. P. had shot that idea down so

there's

> hope there!

>

> I told him I really liked the rivets, they are perfect for fitting

> the straps exactly where each individual child needs them most. I

> suggested that they break the straps free before shipping them out

> because so far the two pairs I've seen like this were stiffly fixed

> in one position till you break them free and swivel them a bit,

some

> parents may not notice that this can be done.

>

> We also talked about Christee's current issue with the buckle

digging

> into Lilee's foot. He said there was one other child who had this

> issue and his suggestion was for mole skin for them but he's

> brainstorming if he can make the tongue longer on the very small

> shoes so that it goes under both the middle and lower strap to

> protect baby from this happening. I don't see it happening on the

> larger shoes like Darbi has but maybe because the straps are so

close

> together on the tiny ones and their feet are still so puffy that

they

> need this modification. I'm hoping that when Christee gets there

> that he will be able to go to Iowa City and meet with them before

> Lilee is casted so he can see this for himself.

>

> I think that's it... If I remember something else I'll post it.

But

> I think this is all good news and hopefully by the time most of you

> who have little ones in these shoes are ready for the larger ones

> he'll have the heel counter thing all figured out.

>

>

> Contact info for MD Orthopaedics ( )

>

> 1-877- PONSETI

>

> mdortho@f...

>

> I don't have their address right here sorry... but it's been

posted

> recently and you can always call the above number.

>

> Kori

>

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Kori,

I think should hire you and Darbi, LOL!! Great info, thanks.

's right shoe is cracked in the back rubber above the heel. I don't know

if I should make aware or not. I don't foresee it to be a problem yet.

What do you think? I can't imagine it would continue all the way to the top,

kwim? Similar to a run in pantyhose? Do you think I should try to superglue

it, or just leave alone. Her shoes are size 3. The flex you were describing

makes sense. is now at a point where she is standing freely in them, but

hasn't tried to walk in them yet. I bet that will come next.

frogabog wrote:

Well, I finally got a chance to call Iowa yesterday. I talked to

Jeanne during the day and sent her the pics that I had of Darbi's

holed PM's and her sores. I'd sent them to Todd a couple of weeks

back but hadn't heard back and I'm not sure why but was not

aware of this problem. Glad to hear now they have dsl at the new

office and the pic emails went through fine. They are still in the

process of building the new shop in town but and Todd are still

working at the old place (which happens to be the 's home)

till the new one is done. Funny, they have to go to town to go to

work now lol!

So called me back in the evening and we talked for quite a

while. He agrees with me about the heel counter and could see

exactly what I was talking about from the pics. I am thrilled that I

was able to convey all that I needed to with those pics and he's

absolutely in agreement about this issue. Poor man keeps apologizing

to me (as did Jeanne) agonizing about how he never wanted to cause

children to have pain and sores... he just wants to help

them. <sigh> I told him I wasn't upset at all and I knew they were

breaking ground on these larger shoes and this kind of thing runs

with the territory. In the end they'll have a perfect shoe designed

for older kids. He is very accepting to constructive criticism and

is pleased to hear from parents in this way. It just so happened

that my daughter seems to be the guinea pig for FAB improvements in

the past couple of years. Poor kid... But if her problems help them

improve the shoes so no one else has issues... it's worth it I

think. I doubt she'll be permanently damaged from having owies for a

few weeks.

So what the plan is now, is that he's going to send me a couple of

impression kits and I'm going to lay the back of her heel into it so

he can make a plaster cast and see exactly where the new heel counter

should be. If this works, some of you who have older children in

sizes 4 and up (maybe 3, but he and I were thinking 4, 5, and 6

should be considered at first - input from parents of babes in sizes

2 and 3 please pipe up if you think those sizes/ages should be

investigated too) may hear from him asking you to make impressions of

your child's heels so he can figure out where each size's heel

counter should be. I think he needs to look at more than Darbi's

feet to know where the happy medium is for the average foot. Or

perhaps he'll decide that in addition to the impressions he already

has us do normally that he'll just ask for the heel impression

too. That way he could really make these individually for each

child. But he is going to work on this issue and I hope to have new

shoes with a proper heel counter for Darbi soon to test out. Soon

would be great since she does have TWO broken pairs of shoes now.

We talked about the recent problems I've seen online with the 4 sets

of shoes that have split in the back (which include our new pair with

the rivets). I think it might be that he got a bubble in the mold

because on Darbi's shoes when I put the rubber back together I can

see that there's a little indent right where it split that looks like

a tiny air bubble. Maybe it was a piece of sand or something in the

mold when he poured them? I don't know if the other shoes that have

split have this bubble but ours do and I can see how that may make

them split right there. I'm pretty sure the others split because I

holed them though. In talking about this he mentioned that older

walkers are pretty hard on these shoes and he's working on ways to

decrease the pressure/force on the rubber for older children. The

insole may have to be thicker in big kids shoes so they don't split

like this, who knows. One idea he'd passed by Dr. Ponseti this week

was to make the sole in the front flexible so that when they crouch

down the shoe acts like a normal shoe and flexes at the toes. He

thinks this may take some of the pressure off the back of the shoes

because the only way they can flex now is at the ankles and heel

area. We also talked (again) about putting some rubbery stuff on the

soles so that these kids aren't slipping and sliding on hardwoods or

linoleum floors. I think the combination of the flexible sole and

something that will grip the smooth floors will have our children

walking unaided in no time!! If Dr. Ponseti doesn't disagree with

the flexible sole idea I think we may see some cool shoes come out

soon! It didn't sound like Dr. P. had shot that idea down so there's

hope there!

I told him I really liked the rivets, they are perfect for fitting

the straps exactly where each individual child needs them most. I

suggested that they break the straps free before shipping them out

because so far the two pairs I've seen like this were stiffly fixed

in one position till you break them free and swivel them a bit, some

parents may not notice that this can be done.

We also talked about Christee's current issue with the buckle digging

into Lilee's foot. He said there was one other child who had this

issue and his suggestion was for mole skin for them but he's

brainstorming if he can make the tongue longer on the very small

shoes so that it goes under both the middle and lower strap to

protect baby from this happening. I don't see it happening on the

larger shoes like Darbi has but maybe because the straps are so close

together on the tiny ones and their feet are still so puffy that they

need this modification. I'm hoping that when Christee gets there

that he will be able to go to Iowa City and meet with them before

Lilee is casted so he can see this for himself.

I think that's it... If I remember something else I'll post it. But

I think this is all good news and hopefully by the time most of you

who have little ones in these shoes are ready for the larger ones

he'll have the heel counter thing all figured out.

Contact info for MD Orthopaedics ( )

1-877- PONSETI

mdortho@...

I don't have their address right here sorry... but it's been posted

recently and you can always call the above number.

Kori

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Kori,

I think should hire you and Darbi, LOL!! Great info, thanks.

's right shoe is cracked in the back rubber above the heel. I don't know

if I should make aware or not. I don't foresee it to be a problem yet.

What do you think? I can't imagine it would continue all the way to the top,

kwim? Similar to a run in pantyhose? Do you think I should try to superglue

it, or just leave alone. Her shoes are size 3. The flex you were describing

makes sense. is now at a point where she is standing freely in them, but

hasn't tried to walk in them yet. I bet that will come next.

frogabog wrote:

Well, I finally got a chance to call Iowa yesterday. I talked to

Jeanne during the day and sent her the pics that I had of Darbi's

holed PM's and her sores. I'd sent them to Todd a couple of weeks

back but hadn't heard back and I'm not sure why but was not

aware of this problem. Glad to hear now they have dsl at the new

office and the pic emails went through fine. They are still in the

process of building the new shop in town but and Todd are still

working at the old place (which happens to be the 's home)

till the new one is done. Funny, they have to go to town to go to

work now lol!

So called me back in the evening and we talked for quite a

while. He agrees with me about the heel counter and could see

exactly what I was talking about from the pics. I am thrilled that I

was able to convey all that I needed to with those pics and he's

absolutely in agreement about this issue. Poor man keeps apologizing

to me (as did Jeanne) agonizing about how he never wanted to cause

children to have pain and sores... he just wants to help

them. <sigh> I told him I wasn't upset at all and I knew they were

breaking ground on these larger shoes and this kind of thing runs

with the territory. In the end they'll have a perfect shoe designed

for older kids. He is very accepting to constructive criticism and

is pleased to hear from parents in this way. It just so happened

that my daughter seems to be the guinea pig for FAB improvements in

the past couple of years. Poor kid... But if her problems help them

improve the shoes so no one else has issues... it's worth it I

think. I doubt she'll be permanently damaged from having owies for a

few weeks.

So what the plan is now, is that he's going to send me a couple of

impression kits and I'm going to lay the back of her heel into it so

he can make a plaster cast and see exactly where the new heel counter

should be. If this works, some of you who have older children in

sizes 4 and up (maybe 3, but he and I were thinking 4, 5, and 6

should be considered at first - input from parents of babes in sizes

2 and 3 please pipe up if you think those sizes/ages should be

investigated too) may hear from him asking you to make impressions of

your child's heels so he can figure out where each size's heel

counter should be. I think he needs to look at more than Darbi's

feet to know where the happy medium is for the average foot. Or

perhaps he'll decide that in addition to the impressions he already

has us do normally that he'll just ask for the heel impression

too. That way he could really make these individually for each

child. But he is going to work on this issue and I hope to have new

shoes with a proper heel counter for Darbi soon to test out. Soon

would be great since she does have TWO broken pairs of shoes now.

We talked about the recent problems I've seen online with the 4 sets

of shoes that have split in the back (which include our new pair with

the rivets). I think it might be that he got a bubble in the mold

because on Darbi's shoes when I put the rubber back together I can

see that there's a little indent right where it split that looks like

a tiny air bubble. Maybe it was a piece of sand or something in the

mold when he poured them? I don't know if the other shoes that have

split have this bubble but ours do and I can see how that may make

them split right there. I'm pretty sure the others split because I

holed them though. In talking about this he mentioned that older

walkers are pretty hard on these shoes and he's working on ways to

decrease the pressure/force on the rubber for older children. The

insole may have to be thicker in big kids shoes so they don't split

like this, who knows. One idea he'd passed by Dr. Ponseti this week

was to make the sole in the front flexible so that when they crouch

down the shoe acts like a normal shoe and flexes at the toes. He

thinks this may take some of the pressure off the back of the shoes

because the only way they can flex now is at the ankles and heel

area. We also talked (again) about putting some rubbery stuff on the

soles so that these kids aren't slipping and sliding on hardwoods or

linoleum floors. I think the combination of the flexible sole and

something that will grip the smooth floors will have our children

walking unaided in no time!! If Dr. Ponseti doesn't disagree with

the flexible sole idea I think we may see some cool shoes come out

soon! It didn't sound like Dr. P. had shot that idea down so there's

hope there!

I told him I really liked the rivets, they are perfect for fitting

the straps exactly where each individual child needs them most. I

suggested that they break the straps free before shipping them out

because so far the two pairs I've seen like this were stiffly fixed

in one position till you break them free and swivel them a bit, some

parents may not notice that this can be done.

We also talked about Christee's current issue with the buckle digging

into Lilee's foot. He said there was one other child who had this

issue and his suggestion was for mole skin for them but he's

brainstorming if he can make the tongue longer on the very small

shoes so that it goes under both the middle and lower strap to

protect baby from this happening. I don't see it happening on the

larger shoes like Darbi has but maybe because the straps are so close

together on the tiny ones and their feet are still so puffy that they

need this modification. I'm hoping that when Christee gets there

that he will be able to go to Iowa City and meet with them before

Lilee is casted so he can see this for himself.

I think that's it... If I remember something else I'll post it. But

I think this is all good news and hopefully by the time most of you

who have little ones in these shoes are ready for the larger ones

he'll have the heel counter thing all figured out.

Contact info for MD Orthopaedics ( )

1-877- PONSETI

mdortho@...

I don't have their address right here sorry... but it's been posted

recently and you can always call the above number.

Kori

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is in the s and has been for over a year now. We got him a new

pair in April and for some reason, he's got a small open sore where the middle

strap is... It's always been red there but it's never bothered him.. and last

night I noticed it's opened. He's never had any problems with the heels tho..

Any suggestions?

Thanks

&

-------------- Original message --------------

Well, I finally got a chance to call Iowa yesterday. I talked to

Jeanne during the day and sent her the pics that I had of Darbi's

holed PM's and her sores. I'd sent them to Todd a couple of weeks

back but hadn't heard back and I'm not sure why but was not

aware of this problem. Glad to hear now they have dsl at the new

office and the pic emails went through fine. They are still in the

process of building the new shop in town but and Todd are still

working at the old place (which happens to be the 's home)

till the new one is done. Funny, they have to go to town to go to

work now lol!

So called me back in the evening and we talked for quite a

while. He agrees with me about the heel counter and could see

exactly what I was talking about from the pics. I am thrilled that I

was able to convey all that I needed to with those pics and he's

absolutely in agreement about this issue. Poor man keeps apologizing

to me (as did Jeanne) agonizing about how he never wanted to cause

children to have pain and sores... he just wants to help

them. <sigh> I told him I wasn't upset at all and I knew they were

breaking ground on these larger shoes and this kind of thing runs

with the territory. In the end they'll have a perfect shoe designed

for older kids. He is very accepting to constructive criticism and

is pleased to hear from parents in this way. It just so happened

that my daughter seems to be the guinea pig for FAB improvements in

the past couple of years. Poor kid... But if her problems help them

improve the shoes so no one else has issues... it's worth it I

think. I doubt she'll be permanently damaged from having owies for a

few weeks.

So what the plan is now, is that he's going to send me a couple of

impression kits and I'm going to lay the back of her heel into it so

he can make a plaster cast and see exactly where the new heel counter

should be. If this works, some of you who have older children in

sizes 4 and up (maybe 3, but he and I were thinking 4, 5, and 6

should be considered at first - input from parents of babes in sizes

2 and 3 please pipe up if you think those sizes/ages should be

investigated too) may hear from him asking you to make impressions of

your child's heels so he can figure out where each size's heel

counter should be. I think he needs to look at more than Darbi's

feet to know where the happy medium is for the average foot. Or

perhaps he'll decide that in addition to the impressions he already

has us do normally that he'll just ask for the heel impression

too. That way he could really make these individually for each

child. But he is going to work on this issue and I hope to have new

shoes with a proper heel counter for Darbi soon to test out. Soon

would be great since she does have TWO broken pairs of shoes now.

We talked about the recent problems I've seen online with the 4 sets

of shoes that have split in the back (which include our new pair with

the rivets). I think it might be that he got a bubble in the mold

because on Darbi's shoes when I put the rubber back together I can

see that there's a little indent right where it split that looks like

a tiny air bubble. Maybe it was a piece of sand or something in the

mold when he poured them? I don't know if the other shoes that have

split have this bubble but ours do and I can see how that may make

them split right there. I'm pretty sure the others split because I

holed them though. In talking about this he mentioned that older

walkers are pretty hard on these shoes and he's working on ways to

decrease the pressure/force on the rubber for older children. The

insole may have to be thicker in big kids shoes so they don't split

like this, who knows. One idea he'd passed by Dr. Ponseti this week

was to make the sole in the front flexible so that when they crouch

down the shoe acts like a normal shoe and flexes at the toes. He

thinks this may take some of the pressure off the back of the shoes

because the only way they can flex now is at the ankles and heel

area. We also talked (again) about putting some rubbery stuff on the

soles so that these kids aren't slipping and sliding on hardwoods or

linoleum floors. I think the combination of the flexible sole and

something that will grip the smooth floors will have our children

walking unaided in no time!! If Dr. Ponseti doesn't disagree with

the flexible sole idea I think we may see some cool shoes come out

soon! It didn't sound like Dr. P. had shot that idea down so there's

hope there!

I told him I really liked the rivets, they are perfect for fitting

the straps exactly where each individual child needs them most. I

suggested that they break the straps free before shipping them out

because so far the two pairs I've seen like this were stiffly fixed

in one position till you break them free and swivel them a bit, some

parents may not notice that this can be done.

We also talked about Christee's current issue with the buckle digging

into Lilee's foot. He said there was one other child who had this

issue and his suggestion was for mole skin for them but he's

brainstorming if he can make the tongue longer on the very small

shoes so that it goes under both the middle and lower strap to

protect baby from this happening. I don't see it happening on the

larger shoes like Darbi has but maybe because the straps are so close

together on the tiny ones and their feet are still so puffy that they

need this modification. I'm hoping that when Christee gets there

that he will be able to go to Iowa City and meet with them before

Lilee is casted so he can see this for himself.

I think that's it... If I remember something else I'll post it. But

I think this is all good news and hopefully by the time most of you

who have little ones in these shoes are ready for the larger ones

he'll have the heel counter thing all figured out.

Contact info for MD Orthopaedics ( )

1-877- PONSETI

mdortho@...

I don't have their address right here sorry... but it's been posted

recently and you can always call the above number.

Kori

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is in the s and has been for over a year now. We got him a new

pair in April and for some reason, he's got a small open sore where the middle

strap is... It's always been red there but it's never bothered him.. and last

night I noticed it's opened. He's never had any problems with the heels tho..

Any suggestions?

Thanks

&

-------------- Original message --------------

Well, I finally got a chance to call Iowa yesterday. I talked to

Jeanne during the day and sent her the pics that I had of Darbi's

holed PM's and her sores. I'd sent them to Todd a couple of weeks

back but hadn't heard back and I'm not sure why but was not

aware of this problem. Glad to hear now they have dsl at the new

office and the pic emails went through fine. They are still in the

process of building the new shop in town but and Todd are still

working at the old place (which happens to be the 's home)

till the new one is done. Funny, they have to go to town to go to

work now lol!

So called me back in the evening and we talked for quite a

while. He agrees with me about the heel counter and could see

exactly what I was talking about from the pics. I am thrilled that I

was able to convey all that I needed to with those pics and he's

absolutely in agreement about this issue. Poor man keeps apologizing

to me (as did Jeanne) agonizing about how he never wanted to cause

children to have pain and sores... he just wants to help

them. <sigh> I told him I wasn't upset at all and I knew they were

breaking ground on these larger shoes and this kind of thing runs

with the territory. In the end they'll have a perfect shoe designed

for older kids. He is very accepting to constructive criticism and

is pleased to hear from parents in this way. It just so happened

that my daughter seems to be the guinea pig for FAB improvements in

the past couple of years. Poor kid... But if her problems help them

improve the shoes so no one else has issues... it's worth it I

think. I doubt she'll be permanently damaged from having owies for a

few weeks.

So what the plan is now, is that he's going to send me a couple of

impression kits and I'm going to lay the back of her heel into it so

he can make a plaster cast and see exactly where the new heel counter

should be. If this works, some of you who have older children in

sizes 4 and up (maybe 3, but he and I were thinking 4, 5, and 6

should be considered at first - input from parents of babes in sizes

2 and 3 please pipe up if you think those sizes/ages should be

investigated too) may hear from him asking you to make impressions of

your child's heels so he can figure out where each size's heel

counter should be. I think he needs to look at more than Darbi's

feet to know where the happy medium is for the average foot. Or

perhaps he'll decide that in addition to the impressions he already

has us do normally that he'll just ask for the heel impression

too. That way he could really make these individually for each

child. But he is going to work on this issue and I hope to have new

shoes with a proper heel counter for Darbi soon to test out. Soon

would be great since she does have TWO broken pairs of shoes now.

We talked about the recent problems I've seen online with the 4 sets

of shoes that have split in the back (which include our new pair with

the rivets). I think it might be that he got a bubble in the mold

because on Darbi's shoes when I put the rubber back together I can

see that there's a little indent right where it split that looks like

a tiny air bubble. Maybe it was a piece of sand or something in the

mold when he poured them? I don't know if the other shoes that have

split have this bubble but ours do and I can see how that may make

them split right there. I'm pretty sure the others split because I

holed them though. In talking about this he mentioned that older

walkers are pretty hard on these shoes and he's working on ways to

decrease the pressure/force on the rubber for older children. The

insole may have to be thicker in big kids shoes so they don't split

like this, who knows. One idea he'd passed by Dr. Ponseti this week

was to make the sole in the front flexible so that when they crouch

down the shoe acts like a normal shoe and flexes at the toes. He

thinks this may take some of the pressure off the back of the shoes

because the only way they can flex now is at the ankles and heel

area. We also talked (again) about putting some rubbery stuff on the

soles so that these kids aren't slipping and sliding on hardwoods or

linoleum floors. I think the combination of the flexible sole and

something that will grip the smooth floors will have our children

walking unaided in no time!! If Dr. Ponseti doesn't disagree with

the flexible sole idea I think we may see some cool shoes come out

soon! It didn't sound like Dr. P. had shot that idea down so there's

hope there!

I told him I really liked the rivets, they are perfect for fitting

the straps exactly where each individual child needs them most. I

suggested that they break the straps free before shipping them out

because so far the two pairs I've seen like this were stiffly fixed

in one position till you break them free and swivel them a bit, some

parents may not notice that this can be done.

We also talked about Christee's current issue with the buckle digging

into Lilee's foot. He said there was one other child who had this

issue and his suggestion was for mole skin for them but he's

brainstorming if he can make the tongue longer on the very small

shoes so that it goes under both the middle and lower strap to

protect baby from this happening. I don't see it happening on the

larger shoes like Darbi has but maybe because the straps are so close

together on the tiny ones and their feet are still so puffy that they

need this modification. I'm hoping that when Christee gets there

that he will be able to go to Iowa City and meet with them before

Lilee is casted so he can see this for himself.

I think that's it... If I remember something else I'll post it. But

I think this is all good news and hopefully by the time most of you

who have little ones in these shoes are ready for the larger ones

he'll have the heel counter thing all figured out.

Contact info for MD Orthopaedics ( )

1-877- PONSETI

mdortho@...

I don't have their address right here sorry... but it's been posted

recently and you can always call the above number.

Kori

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See that's just it.. We've never had a problem before. It's been " all of a

sudden " . It's no tighter than I've ever put them before. Nothing really has

changed. Thanks tho :)

--------- Re: Talked to about the heel counter issue

is in the s and has been for over a year now. We got him a new

pair in April and for some reason, he's got a small open sore where the middle

strap is... It's always been red there but it's never bothered him.. and last

night I noticed it's opened. He's never had any problems with the heels tho..

Any suggestions?

Thanks

&

-------------- Original message --------------

Well, I finally got a chance to call Iowa yesterday. I talked to

Jeanne during the day and sent her the pics that I had of Darbi's

holed PM's and her sores. I'd sent them to Todd a couple of weeks

back but hadn't heard back and I'm not sure why but was not

aware of this problem. Glad to hear now they have dsl at the new

office and the pic emails went through fine. They are still in the

process of building the new shop in town but and Todd are still

working at the old place (which happens to be the 's home)

till the new one is done. Funny, they have to go to town to go to

work now lol!

So called me back in the evening and we talked for quite a

while. He agrees with me about the heel counter and could see

exactly what I was talking about from the pics. I am thrilled that I

was able to convey all that I needed to with those pics and he's

absolutely in agreement about this issue. Poor man keeps apologizing

to me (as did Jeanne) agonizing about how he never wanted to cause

children to have pain and sores... he just wants to help

them. <sigh> I told him I wasn't upset at all and I knew they were

breaking ground on these larger shoes and this kind of thing runs

with the territory. In the end they'll have a perfect shoe designed

for older kids. He is very accepting to constructive criticism and

is pleased to hear from parents in this way. It just so happened

that my daughter seems to be the guinea pig for FAB improvements in

the past couple of years. Poor kid... But if her problems help them

improve the shoes so no one else has issues... it's worth it I

think. I doubt she'll be permanently damaged from having owies for a

few weeks.

So what the plan is now, is that he's going to send me a couple of

impression kits and I'm going to lay the back of her heel into it so

he can make a plaster cast and see exactly where the new heel counter

should be. If this works, some of you who have older children in

sizes 4 and up (maybe 3, but he and I were thinking 4, 5, and 6

should be considered at first - input from parents of babes in sizes

2 and 3 please pipe up if you think those sizes/ages should be

investigated too) may hear from him asking you to make impressions of

your child's heels so he can figure out where each size's heel

counter should be. I think he needs to look at more than Darbi's

feet to know where the happy medium is for the average foot. Or

perhaps he'll decide that in addition to the impressions he already

has us do normally that he'll just ask for the heel impression

too. That way he could really make these individually for each

child. But he is going to work on this issue and I hope to have new

shoes with a proper heel counter for Darbi soon to test out. Soon

would be great since she does have TWO broken pairs of shoes now.

We talked about the recent problems I've seen online with the 4 sets

of shoes that have split in the back (which include our new pair with

the rivets). I think it might be that he got a bubble in the mold

because on Darbi's shoes when I put the rubber back together I can

see that there's a little indent right where it split that looks like

a tiny air bubble. Maybe it was a piece of sand or something in the

mold when he poured them? I don't know if the other shoes that have

split have this bubble but ours do and I can see how that may make

them split right there. I'm pretty sure the others split because I

holed them though. In talking about this he mentioned that older

walkers are pretty hard on these shoes and he's working on ways to

decrease the pressure/force on the rubber for older children. The

insole may have to be thicker in big kids shoes so they don't split

like this, who knows. One idea he'd passed by Dr. Ponseti this week

was to make the sole in the front flexible so that when they crouch

down the shoe acts like a normal shoe and flexes at the toes. He

thinks this may take some of the pressure off the back of the shoes

because the only way they can flex now is at the ankles and heel

area. We also talked (again) about putting some rubbery stuff on the

soles so that these kids aren't slipping and sliding on hardwoods or

linoleum floors. I think the combination of the flexible sole and

something that will grip the smooth floors will have our children

walking unaided in no time!! If Dr. Ponseti doesn't disagree with

the flexible sole idea I think we may see some cool shoes come out

soon! It didn't sound like Dr. P. had shot that idea down so there's

hope there!

I told him I really liked the rivets, they are perfect for fitting

the straps exactly where each individual child needs them most. I

suggested that they break the straps free before shipping them out

because so far the two pairs I've seen like this were stiffly fixed

in one position till you break them free and swivel them a bit, some

parents may not notice that this can be done.

We also talked about Christee's current issue with the buckle digging

into Lilee's foot. He said there was one other child who had this

issue and his suggestion was for mole skin for them but he's

brainstorming if he can make the tongue longer on the very small

shoes so that it goes under both the middle and lower strap to

protect baby from this happening. I don't see it happening on the

larger shoes like Darbi has but maybe because the straps are so close

together on the tiny ones and their feet are still so puffy that they

need this modification. I'm hoping that when Christee gets there

that he will be able to go to Iowa City and meet with them before

Lilee is casted so he can see this for himself.

I think that's it... If I remember something else I'll post it. But

I think this is all good news and hopefully by the time most of you

who have little ones in these shoes are ready for the larger ones

he'll have the heel counter thing all figured out.

Contact info for MD Orthopaedics ( )

1-877- PONSETI

mdortho@...

I don't have their address right here sorry... but it's been posted

recently and you can always call the above number.

Kori

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See that's just it.. We've never had a problem before. It's been " all of a

sudden " . It's no tighter than I've ever put them before. Nothing really has

changed. Thanks tho :)

--------- Re: Talked to about the heel counter issue

is in the s and has been for over a year now. We got him a new

pair in April and for some reason, he's got a small open sore where the middle

strap is... It's always been red there but it's never bothered him.. and last

night I noticed it's opened. He's never had any problems with the heels tho..

Any suggestions?

Thanks

&

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Well, I finally got a chance to call Iowa yesterday. I talked to

Jeanne during the day and sent her the pics that I had of Darbi's

holed PM's and her sores. I'd sent them to Todd a couple of weeks

back but hadn't heard back and I'm not sure why but was not

aware of this problem. Glad to hear now they have dsl at the new

office and the pic emails went through fine. They are still in the

process of building the new shop in town but and Todd are still

working at the old place (which happens to be the 's home)

till the new one is done. Funny, they have to go to town to go to

work now lol!

So called me back in the evening and we talked for quite a

while. He agrees with me about the heel counter and could see

exactly what I was talking about from the pics. I am thrilled that I

was able to convey all that I needed to with those pics and he's

absolutely in agreement about this issue. Poor man keeps apologizing

to me (as did Jeanne) agonizing about how he never wanted to cause

children to have pain and sores... he just wants to help

them. <sigh> I told him I wasn't upset at all and I knew they were

breaking ground on these larger shoes and this kind of thing runs

with the territory. In the end they'll have a perfect shoe designed

for older kids. He is very accepting to constructive criticism and

is pleased to hear from parents in this way. It just so happened

that my daughter seems to be the guinea pig for FAB improvements in

the past couple of years. Poor kid... But if her problems help them

improve the shoes so no one else has issues... it's worth it I

think. I doubt she'll be permanently damaged from having owies for a

few weeks.

So what the plan is now, is that he's going to send me a couple of

impression kits and I'm going to lay the back of her heel into it so

he can make a plaster cast and see exactly where the new heel counter

should be. If this works, some of you who have older children in

sizes 4 and up (maybe 3, but he and I were thinking 4, 5, and 6

should be considered at first - input from parents of babes in sizes

2 and 3 please pipe up if you think those sizes/ages should be

investigated too) may hear from him asking you to make impressions of

your child's heels so he can figure out where each size's heel

counter should be. I think he needs to look at more than Darbi's

feet to know where the happy medium is for the average foot. Or

perhaps he'll decide that in addition to the impressions he already

has us do normally that he'll just ask for the heel impression

too. That way he could really make these individually for each

child. But he is going to work on this issue and I hope to have new

shoes with a proper heel counter for Darbi soon to test out. Soon

would be great since she does have TWO broken pairs of shoes now.

We talked about the recent problems I've seen online with the 4 sets

of shoes that have split in the back (which include our new pair with

the rivets). I think it might be that he got a bubble in the mold

because on Darbi's shoes when I put the rubber back together I can

see that there's a little indent right where it split that looks like

a tiny air bubble. Maybe it was a piece of sand or something in the

mold when he poured them? I don't know if the other shoes that have

split have this bubble but ours do and I can see how that may make

them split right there. I'm pretty sure the others split because I

holed them though. In talking about this he mentioned that older

walkers are pretty hard on these shoes and he's working on ways to

decrease the pressure/force on the rubber for older children. The

insole may have to be thicker in big kids shoes so they don't split

like this, who knows. One idea he'd passed by Dr. Ponseti this week

was to make the sole in the front flexible so that when they crouch

down the shoe acts like a normal shoe and flexes at the toes. He

thinks this may take some of the pressure off the back of the shoes

because the only way they can flex now is at the ankles and heel

area. We also talked (again) about putting some rubbery stuff on the

soles so that these kids aren't slipping and sliding on hardwoods or

linoleum floors. I think the combination of the flexible sole and

something that will grip the smooth floors will have our children

walking unaided in no time!! If Dr. Ponseti doesn't disagree with

the flexible sole idea I think we may see some cool shoes come out

soon! It didn't sound like Dr. P. had shot that idea down so there's

hope there!

I told him I really liked the rivets, they are perfect for fitting

the straps exactly where each individual child needs them most. I

suggested that they break the straps free before shipping them out

because so far the two pairs I've seen like this were stiffly fixed

in one position till you break them free and swivel them a bit, some

parents may not notice that this can be done.

We also talked about Christee's current issue with the buckle digging

into Lilee's foot. He said there was one other child who had this

issue and his suggestion was for mole skin for them but he's

brainstorming if he can make the tongue longer on the very small

shoes so that it goes under both the middle and lower strap to

protect baby from this happening. I don't see it happening on the

larger shoes like Darbi has but maybe because the straps are so close

together on the tiny ones and their feet are still so puffy that they

need this modification. I'm hoping that when Christee gets there

that he will be able to go to Iowa City and meet with them before

Lilee is casted so he can see this for himself.

I think that's it... If I remember something else I'll post it. But

I think this is all good news and hopefully by the time most of you

who have little ones in these shoes are ready for the larger ones

he'll have the heel counter thing all figured out.

Contact info for MD Orthopaedics ( )

1-877- PONSETI

mdortho@...

I don't have their address right here sorry... but it's been posted

recently and you can always call the above number.

Kori

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Not much time, but here's a quick reply.

I think the sore on Lily's heel is about in

the same place as Darbi's. Not full blown

blister/broken skin, but persistent purplish

red mark. Lily was in size 0 and just moved

to size 1. I notice that the buckle is digging

into Lily's cf too with this newer pair.

Thanks again for working so hard on this Kori!

Kim

>

> Well, I finally got a chance to call Iowa yesterday. I talked to

> Jeanne during the day and sent her the pics that I had of Darbi's

> holed PM's and her sores. I'd sent them to Todd a couple of weeks

> back but hadn't heard back and I'm not sure why but was not

> aware of this problem. Glad to hear now they have dsl at the new

> office and the pic emails went through fine. They are still in

the

> process of building the new shop in town but and Todd are

still

> working at the old place (which happens to be the 's home)

> till the new one is done. Funny, they have to go to town to go to

> work now lol!

>

> So called me back in the evening and we talked for quite a

> while. He agrees with me about the heel counter and could see

> exactly what I was talking about from the pics. I am thrilled

that I

> was able to convey all that I needed to with those pics and he's

> absolutely in agreement about this issue. Poor man keeps

apologizing

> to me (as did Jeanne) agonizing about how he never wanted to cause

> children to have pain and sores... he just wants to help

> them. <sigh> I told him I wasn't upset at all and I knew they

were

> breaking ground on these larger shoes and this kind of thing runs

> with the territory. In the end they'll have a perfect shoe

designed

> for older kids. He is very accepting to constructive criticism

and

> is pleased to hear from parents in this way. It just so happened

> that my daughter seems to be the guinea pig for FAB improvements

in

> the past couple of years. Poor kid... But if her problems help

them

> improve the shoes so no one else has issues... it's worth it I

> think. I doubt she'll be permanently damaged from having owies

for a

> few weeks.

>

> So what the plan is now, is that he's going to send me a couple of

> impression kits and I'm going to lay the back of her heel into it

so

> he can make a plaster cast and see exactly where the new heel

counter

> should be. If this works, some of you who have older children in

> sizes 4 and up (maybe 3, but he and I were thinking 4, 5, and 6

> should be considered at first - input from parents of babes in

sizes

> 2 and 3 please pipe up if you think those sizes/ages should be

> investigated too) may hear from him asking you to make impressions

of

> your child's heels so he can figure out where each size's heel

> counter should be. I think he needs to look at more than Darbi's

> feet to know where the happy medium is for the average foot. Or

> perhaps he'll decide that in addition to the impressions he

already

> has us do normally that he'll just ask for the heel impression

> too. That way he could really make these individually for each

> child. But he is going to work on this issue and I hope to have

new

> shoes with a proper heel counter for Darbi soon to test out. Soon

> would be great since she does have TWO broken pairs of shoes now.

>

> We talked about the recent problems I've seen online with the 4

sets

> of shoes that have split in the back (which include our new pair

with

> the rivets). I think it might be that he got a bubble in the mold

> because on Darbi's shoes when I put the rubber back together I can

> see that there's a little indent right where it split that looks

like

> a tiny air bubble. Maybe it was a piece of sand or something in

the

> mold when he poured them? I don't know if the other shoes that

have

> split have this bubble but ours do and I can see how that may make

> them split right there. I'm pretty sure the others split because

I

> holed them though. In talking about this he mentioned that older

> walkers are pretty hard on these shoes and he's working on ways to

> decrease the pressure/force on the rubber for older children. The

> insole may have to be thicker in big kids shoes so they don't

split

> like this, who knows. One idea he'd passed by Dr. Ponseti this

week

> was to make the sole in the front flexible so that when they

crouch

> down the shoe acts like a normal shoe and flexes at the toes. He

> thinks this may take some of the pressure off the back of the

shoes

> because the only way they can flex now is at the ankles and heel

> area. We also talked (again) about putting some rubbery stuff on

the

> soles so that these kids aren't slipping and sliding on hardwoods

or

> linoleum floors. I think the combination of the flexible sole and

> something that will grip the smooth floors will have our children

> walking unaided in no time!! If Dr. Ponseti doesn't disagree with

> the flexible sole idea I think we may see some cool shoes come out

> soon! It didn't sound like Dr. P. had shot that idea down so

there's

> hope there!

>

> I told him I really liked the rivets, they are perfect for fitting

> the straps exactly where each individual child needs them most. I

> suggested that they break the straps free before shipping them out

> because so far the two pairs I've seen like this were stiffly

fixed

> in one position till you break them free and swivel them a bit,

some

> parents may not notice that this can be done.

>

> We also talked about Christee's current issue with the buckle

digging

> into Lilee's foot. He said there was one other child who had this

> issue and his suggestion was for mole skin for them but he's

> brainstorming if he can make the tongue longer on the very small

> shoes so that it goes under both the middle and lower strap to

> protect baby from this happening. I don't see it happening on the

> larger shoes like Darbi has but maybe because the straps are so

close

> together on the tiny ones and their feet are still so puffy that

they

> need this modification. I'm hoping that when Christee gets there

> that he will be able to go to Iowa City and meet with them before

> Lilee is casted so he can see this for himself.

>

> I think that's it... If I remember something else I'll post it.

But

> I think this is all good news and hopefully by the time most of

you

> who have little ones in these shoes are ready for the larger ones

> he'll have the heel counter thing all figured out.

>

>

> Contact info for MD Orthopaedics ( )

>

> 1-877- PONSETI

>

> mdortho@f...

>

> I don't have their address right here sorry... but it's been

posted

> recently and you can always call the above number.

>

> Kori

>

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It's still red, but it does look better. Now it's just really dry.. I've been

keeping a close eye on it and making sure nothing is in the way.. You're

probably right. It does seem to be getting better :)

Thanks!

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Hmmm, that is puzzling. Maybe just one night there happened to be a " pill " in

his sock that pressed all night. Is it getting better or worse now, can you

tell?

s.

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See that's just it.. We've never had a problem before. It's been " all of a

sudden " . It's no tighter than I've ever put them before. Nothing really has

changed. Thanks tho :)

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Ya, I'd tell because if this becomes a constant problem he'll want to find

a better material - but dh used a 2 part epoxy he bought at wal-mart in the

paint-supply area. It's held up well. The part that broke on our shoes was the

black plastic around the bottom sole.

s.

Re: Talked to about the heel counter issue

,

I seem to remember ee saying she fixed something like this once

with some kind of epoxy. ee, am I right or is it my imagination?

> Well, I finally got a chance to call Iowa yesterday. I talked to

> Jeanne during the day and sent her the pics that I had of Darbi's

> holed PM's and her sores. I'd sent them to Todd a couple of weeks

> back but hadn't heard back and I'm not sure why but was not

> aware of this problem. Glad to hear now they have dsl at the new

> office and the pic emails went through fine. They are still in the

> process of building the new shop in town but and Todd are still

> working at the old place (which happens to be the 's home)

> till the new one is done. Funny, they have to go to town to go to

> work now lol!

>

> So called me back in the evening and we talked for quite a

> while. He agrees with me about the heel counter and could see

> exactly what I was talking about from the pics. I am thrilled that I

> was able to convey all that I needed to with those pics and he's

> absolutely in agreement about this issue. Poor man keeps apologizing

> to me (as did Jeanne) agonizing about how he never wanted to cause

> children to have pain and sores... he just wants to help

> them. <sigh> I told him I wasn't upset at all and I knew they were

> breaking ground on these larger shoes and this kind of thing runs

> with the territory. In the end they'll have a perfect shoe designed

> for older kids. He is very accepting to constructive criticism and

> is pleased to hear from parents in this way. It just so happened

> that my daughter seems to be the guinea pig for FAB improvements in

> the past couple of years. Poor kid... But if her problems help them

> improve the shoes so no one else has issues... it's worth it I

> think. I doubt she'll be permanently damaged from having owies for a

> few weeks.

>

> So what the plan is now, is that he's going to send me a couple of

> impression kits and I'm going to lay the back of her heel into it so

> he can make a plaster cast and see exactly where the new heel counter

> should be. If this works, some of you who have older children in

> sizes 4 and up (maybe 3, but he and I were thinking 4, 5, and 6

> should be considered at first - input from parents of babes in sizes

> 2 and 3 please pipe up if you think those sizes/ages should be

> investigated too) may hear from him asking you to make impressions of

> your child's heels so he can figure out where each size's heel

> counter should be. I think he needs to look at more than Darbi's

> feet to know where the happy medium is for the average foot. Or

> perhaps he'll decide that in addition to the impressions he already

> has us do normally that he'll just ask for the heel impression

> too. That way he could really make these individually for each

> child. But he is going to work on this issue and I hope to have new

> shoes with a proper heel counter for Darbi soon to test out. Soon

> would be great since she does have TWO broken pairs of shoes now.

>

> We talked about the recent problems I've seen online with the 4 sets

> of shoes that have split in the back (which include our new pair with

> the rivets). I think it might be that he got a bubble in the mold

> because on Darbi's shoes when I put the rubber back together I can

> see that there's a little indent right where it split that looks like

> a tiny air bubble. Maybe it was a piece of sand or something in the

> mold when he poured them? I don't know if the other shoes that have

> split have this bubble but ours do and I can see how that may make

> them split right there. I'm pretty sure the others split because I

> holed them though. In talking about this he mentioned that older

> walkers are pretty hard on these shoes and he's working on ways to

> decrease the pressure/force on the rubber for older children. The

> insole may have to be thicker in big kids shoes so they don't split

> like this, who knows. One idea he'd passed by Dr. Ponseti this week

> was to make the sole in the front flexible so that when they crouch

> down the shoe acts like a normal shoe and flexes at the toes. He

> thinks this may take some of the pressure off the back of the shoes

> because the only way they can flex now is at the ankles and heel

> area. We also talked (again) about putting some rubbery stuff on the

> soles so that these kids aren't slipping and sliding on hardwoods or

> linoleum floors. I think the combination of the flexible sole and

> something that will grip the smooth floors will have our children

> walking unaided in no time!! If Dr. Ponseti doesn't disagree with

> the flexible sole idea I think we may see some cool shoes come out

> soon! It didn't sound like Dr. P. had shot that idea down so there's

> hope there!

>

> I told him I really liked the rivets, they are perfect for fitting

> the straps exactly where each individual child needs them most. I

> suggested that they break the straps free before shipping them out

> because so far the two pairs I've seen like this were stiffly fixed

> in one position till you break them free and swivel them a bit, some

> parents may not notice that this can be done.

>

> We also talked about Christee's current issue with the buckle digging

> into Lilee's foot. He said there was one other child who had this

> issue and his suggestion was for mole skin for them but he's

> brainstorming if he can make the tongue longer on the very small

> shoes so that it goes under both the middle and lower strap to

> protect baby from this happening. I don't see it happening on the

> larger shoes like Darbi has but maybe because the straps are so close

> together on the tiny ones and their feet are still so puffy that they

> need this modification. I'm hoping that when Christee gets there

> that he will be able to go to Iowa City and meet with them before

> Lilee is casted so he can see this for himself.

>

> I think that's it... If I remember something else I'll post it. But

> I think this is all good news and hopefully by the time most of you

> who have little ones in these shoes are ready for the larger ones

> he'll have the heel counter thing all figured out.

>

>

> Contact info for MD Orthopaedics ( )

>

> 1-877- PONSETI

>

> mdortho@f...

>

> I don't have their address right here sorry... but it's been posted

> recently and you can always call the above number.

>

> Kori

>

>

>

>

>

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,

I seem to remember ee saying she fixed something like this once

with some kind of epoxy. ee, am I right or is it my imagination?

> Well, I finally got a chance to call Iowa yesterday. I talked to

> Jeanne during the day and sent her the pics that I had of Darbi's

> holed PM's and her sores. I'd sent them to Todd a couple of weeks

> back but hadn't heard back and I'm not sure why but was not

> aware of this problem. Glad to hear now they have dsl at the new

> office and the pic emails went through fine. They are still in the

> process of building the new shop in town but and Todd are still

> working at the old place (which happens to be the 's home)

> till the new one is done. Funny, they have to go to town to go to

> work now lol!

>

> So called me back in the evening and we talked for quite a

> while. He agrees with me about the heel counter and could see

> exactly what I was talking about from the pics. I am thrilled that I

> was able to convey all that I needed to with those pics and he's

> absolutely in agreement about this issue. Poor man keeps apologizing

> to me (as did Jeanne) agonizing about how he never wanted to cause

> children to have pain and sores... he just wants to help

> them. <sigh> I told him I wasn't upset at all and I knew they were

> breaking ground on these larger shoes and this kind of thing runs

> with the territory. In the end they'll have a perfect shoe designed

> for older kids. He is very accepting to constructive criticism and

> is pleased to hear from parents in this way. It just so happened

> that my daughter seems to be the guinea pig for FAB improvements in

> the past couple of years. Poor kid... But if her problems help them

> improve the shoes so no one else has issues... it's worth it I

> think. I doubt she'll be permanently damaged from having owies for a

> few weeks.

>

> So what the plan is now, is that he's going to send me a couple of

> impression kits and I'm going to lay the back of her heel into it so

> he can make a plaster cast and see exactly where the new heel counter

> should be. If this works, some of you who have older children in

> sizes 4 and up (maybe 3, but he and I were thinking 4, 5, and 6

> should be considered at first - input from parents of babes in sizes

> 2 and 3 please pipe up if you think those sizes/ages should be

> investigated too) may hear from him asking you to make impressions of

> your child's heels so he can figure out where each size's heel

> counter should be. I think he needs to look at more than Darbi's

> feet to know where the happy medium is for the average foot. Or

> perhaps he'll decide that in addition to the impressions he already

> has us do normally that he'll just ask for the heel impression

> too. That way he could really make these individually for each

> child. But he is going to work on this issue and I hope to have new

> shoes with a proper heel counter for Darbi soon to test out. Soon

> would be great since she does have TWO broken pairs of shoes now.

>

> We talked about the recent problems I've seen online with the 4 sets

> of shoes that have split in the back (which include our new pair with

> the rivets). I think it might be that he got a bubble in the mold

> because on Darbi's shoes when I put the rubber back together I can

> see that there's a little indent right where it split that looks like

> a tiny air bubble. Maybe it was a piece of sand or something in the

> mold when he poured them? I don't know if the other shoes that have

> split have this bubble but ours do and I can see how that may make

> them split right there. I'm pretty sure the others split because I

> holed them though. In talking about this he mentioned that older

> walkers are pretty hard on these shoes and he's working on ways to

> decrease the pressure/force on the rubber for older children. The

> insole may have to be thicker in big kids shoes so they don't split

> like this, who knows. One idea he'd passed by Dr. Ponseti this week

> was to make the sole in the front flexible so that when they crouch

> down the shoe acts like a normal shoe and flexes at the toes. He

> thinks this may take some of the pressure off the back of the shoes

> because the only way they can flex now is at the ankles and heel

> area. We also talked (again) about putting some rubbery stuff on the

> soles so that these kids aren't slipping and sliding on hardwoods or

> linoleum floors. I think the combination of the flexible sole and

> something that will grip the smooth floors will have our children

> walking unaided in no time!! If Dr. Ponseti doesn't disagree with

> the flexible sole idea I think we may see some cool shoes come out

> soon! It didn't sound like Dr. P. had shot that idea down so there's

> hope there!

>

> I told him I really liked the rivets, they are perfect for fitting

> the straps exactly where each individual child needs them most. I

> suggested that they break the straps free before shipping them out

> because so far the two pairs I've seen like this were stiffly fixed

> in one position till you break them free and swivel them a bit, some

> parents may not notice that this can be done.

>

> We also talked about Christee's current issue with the buckle digging

> into Lilee's foot. He said there was one other child who had this

> issue and his suggestion was for mole skin for them but he's

> brainstorming if he can make the tongue longer on the very small

> shoes so that it goes under both the middle and lower strap to

> protect baby from this happening. I don't see it happening on the

> larger shoes like Darbi has but maybe because the straps are so close

> together on the tiny ones and their feet are still so puffy that they

> need this modification. I'm hoping that when Christee gets there

> that he will be able to go to Iowa City and meet with them before

> Lilee is casted so he can see this for himself.

>

> I think that's it... If I remember something else I'll post it. But

> I think this is all good news and hopefully by the time most of you

> who have little ones in these shoes are ready for the larger ones

> he'll have the heel counter thing all figured out.

>

>

> Contact info for MD Orthopaedics ( )

>

> 1-877- PONSETI

>

> mdortho@f...

>

> I don't have their address right here sorry... but it's been posted

> recently and you can always call the above number.

>

> Kori

>

>

>

>

>

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I heard from a Mom when I was in Iowa last week that her daughter's (fabgirls is

her screen name) and she took her shoes into the shoe place and had the shoes

fixed.

I had the same problem with mine - either it was the black plastic on the shoe

that came apart from the straps, or it was the straps itself. I had both

incidents happen.

I called and he overnighted a new shoe for me to switch and I sent him the

damaged one back for his inspection.

:)

But I have heard that a strong glue will help!

wrote:

,

I seem to remember ee saying she fixed something like this once

with some kind of epoxy. ee, am I right or is it my imagination?

> Well, I finally got a chance to call Iowa yesterday. I talked to

> Jeanne during the day and sent her the pics that I had of Darbi's

> holed PM's and her sores. I'd sent them to Todd a couple of weeks

> back but hadn't heard back and I'm not sure why but was not

> aware of this problem. Glad to hear now they have dsl at the new

> office and the pic emails went through fine. They are still in the

> process of building the new shop in town but and Todd are still

> working at the old place (which happens to be the 's home)

> till the new one is done. Funny, they have to go to town to go to

> work now lol!

>

> So called me back in the evening and we talked for quite a

> while. He agrees with me about the heel counter and could see

> exactly what I was talking about from the pics. I am thrilled that I

> was able to convey all that I needed to with those pics and he's

> absolutely in agreement about this issue. Poor man keeps apologizing

> to me (as did Jeanne) agonizing about how he never wanted to cause

> children to have pain and sores... he just wants to help

> them. <sigh> I told him I wasn't upset at all and I knew they were

> breaking ground on these larger shoes and this kind of thing runs

> with the territory. In the end they'll have a perfect shoe designed

> for older kids. He is very accepting to constructive criticism and

> is pleased to hear from parents in this way. It just so happened

> that my daughter seems to be the guinea pig for FAB improvements in

> the past couple of years. Poor kid... But if her problems help them

> improve the shoes so no one else has issues... it's worth it I

> think. I doubt she'll be permanently damaged from having owies for a

> few weeks.

>

> So what the plan is now, is that he's going to send me a couple of

> impression kits and I'm going to lay the back of her heel into it so

> he can make a plaster cast and see exactly where the new heel counter

> should be. If this works, some of you who have older children in

> sizes 4 and up (maybe 3, but he and I were thinking 4, 5, and 6

> should be considered at first - input from parents of babes in sizes

> 2 and 3 please pipe up if you think those sizes/ages should be

> investigated too) may hear from him asking you to make impressions of

> your child's heels so he can figure out where each size's heel

> counter should be. I think he needs to look at more than Darbi's

> feet to know where the happy medium is for the average foot. Or

> perhaps he'll decide that in addition to the impressions he already

> has us do normally that he'll just ask for the heel impression

> too. That way he could really make these individually for each

> child. But he is going to work on this issue and I hope to have new

> shoes with a proper heel counter for Darbi soon to test out. Soon

> would be great since she does have TWO broken pairs of shoes now.

>

> We talked about the recent problems I've seen online with the 4 sets

> of shoes that have split in the back (which include our new pair with

> the rivets). I think it might be that he got a bubble in the mold

> because on Darbi's shoes when I put the rubber back together I can

> see that there's a little indent right where it split that looks like

> a tiny air bubble. Maybe it was a piece of sand or something in the

> mold when he poured them? I don't know if the other shoes that have

> split have this bubble but ours do and I can see how that may make

> them split right there. I'm pretty sure the others split because I

> holed them though. In talking about this he mentioned that older

> walkers are pretty hard on these shoes and he's working on ways to

> decrease the pressure/force on the rubber for older children. The

> insole may have to be thicker in big kids shoes so they don't split

> like this, who knows. One idea he'd passed by Dr. Ponseti this week

> was to make the sole in the front flexible so that when they crouch

> down the shoe acts like a normal shoe and flexes at the toes. He

> thinks this may take some of the pressure off the back of the shoes

> because the only way they can flex now is at the ankles and heel

> area. We also talked (again) about putting some rubbery stuff on the

> soles so that these kids aren't slipping and sliding on hardwoods or

> linoleum floors. I think the combination of the flexible sole and

> something that will grip the smooth floors will have our children

> walking unaided in no time!! If Dr. Ponseti doesn't disagree with

> the flexible sole idea I think we may see some cool shoes come out

> soon! It didn't sound like Dr. P. had shot that idea down so there's

> hope there!

>

> I told him I really liked the rivets, they are perfect for fitting

> the straps exactly where each individual child needs them most. I

> suggested that they break the straps free before shipping them out

> because so far the two pairs I've seen like this were stiffly fixed

> in one position till you break them free and swivel them a bit, some

> parents may not notice that this can be done.

>

> We also talked about Christee's current issue with the buckle digging

> into Lilee's foot. He said there was one other child who had this

> issue and his suggestion was for mole skin for them but he's

> brainstorming if he can make the tongue longer on the very small

> shoes so that it goes under both the middle and lower strap to

> protect baby from this happening. I don't see it happening on the

> larger shoes like Darbi has but maybe because the straps are so close

> together on the tiny ones and their feet are still so puffy that they

> need this modification. I'm hoping that when Christee gets there

> that he will be able to go to Iowa City and meet with them before

> Lilee is casted so he can see this for himself.

>

> I think that's it... If I remember something else I'll post it. But

> I think this is all good news and hopefully by the time most of you

> who have little ones in these shoes are ready for the larger ones

> he'll have the heel counter thing all figured out.

>

>

> Contact info for MD Orthopaedics ( )

>

> 1-877- PONSETI

>

> mdortho@f...

>

> I don't have their address right here sorry... but it's been posted

> recently and you can always call the above number.

>

> Kori

>

>

>

>

>

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Kori,

Just curious if you have thought about trying to melt the rubber and

kind of re-melt it back together? I don't know how, or with what,

just a thought...

allison

> > > Well, I finally got a chance to call Iowa yesterday. I talked

to

> > > Jeanne during the day and sent her the pics that I had of

Darbi's

> > > holed PM's and her sores. I'd sent them to Todd a couple of

weeks

> > > back but hadn't heard back and I'm not sure why but was not

> > > aware of this problem. Glad to hear now they have dsl at the

new

> > > office and the pic emails went through fine. They are still in

the

> > > process of building the new shop in town but and Todd are

still

> > > working at the old place (which happens to be the 's

home)

> > > till the new one is done. Funny, they have to go to town to go

to

> > > work now lol!

> > >

> > > So called me back in the evening and we talked for quite a

> > > while. He agrees with me about the heel counter and could see

> > > exactly what I was talking about from the pics. I am thrilled

that I

> > > was able to convey all that I needed to with those pics and he's

> > > absolutely in agreement about this issue. Poor man keeps

apologizing

> > > to me (as did Jeanne) agonizing about how he never wanted to

cause

> > > children to have pain and sores... he just wants to help

> > > them. <sigh> I told him I wasn't upset at all and I knew they

were

> > > breaking ground on these larger shoes and this kind of thing

runs

> > > with the territory. In the end they'll have a perfect shoe

designed

> > > for older kids. He is very accepting to constructive criticism

and

> > > is pleased to hear from parents in this way. It just so

happened

> > > that my daughter seems to be the guinea pig for FAB

improvements in

> > > the past couple of years. Poor kid... But if her problems

help them

> > > improve the shoes so no one else has issues... it's worth it I

> > > think. I doubt she'll be permanently damaged from having owies

for a

> > > few weeks.

> > >

> > > So what the plan is now, is that he's going to send me a couple

of

> > > impression kits and I'm going to lay the back of her heel into

it so

> > > he can make a plaster cast and see exactly where the new heel

counter

> > > should be. If this works, some of you who have older children

in

> > > sizes 4 and up (maybe 3, but he and I were thinking 4, 5, and 6

> > > should be considered at first - input from parents of babes in

sizes

> > > 2 and 3 please pipe up if you think those sizes/ages should be

> > > investigated too) may hear from him asking you to make

impressions of

> > > your child's heels so he can figure out where each size's heel

> > > counter should be. I think he needs to look at more than

Darbi's

> > > feet to know where the happy medium is for the average foot. Or

> > > perhaps he'll decide that in addition to the impressions he

already

> > > has us do normally that he'll just ask for the heel impression

> > > too. That way he could really make these individually for each

> > > child. But he is going to work on this issue and I hope to

have new

> > > shoes with a proper heel counter for Darbi soon to test out.

Soon

> > > would be great since she does have TWO broken pairs of shoes

now.

> > >

> > > We talked about the recent problems I've seen online with the 4

sets

> > > of shoes that have split in the back (which include our new

pair with

> > > the rivets). I think it might be that he got a bubble in the

mold

> > > because on Darbi's shoes when I put the rubber back together I

can

> > > see that there's a little indent right where it split that

looks like

> > > a tiny air bubble. Maybe it was a piece of sand or something

in the

> > > mold when he poured them? I don't know if the other shoes that

have

> > > split have this bubble but ours do and I can see how that may

make

> > > them split right there. I'm pretty sure the others split

because I

> > > holed them though. In talking about this he mentioned that

older

> > > walkers are pretty hard on these shoes and he's working on ways

to

> > > decrease the pressure/force on the rubber for older children.

The

> > > insole may have to be thicker in big kids shoes so they don't

split

> > > like this, who knows. One idea he'd passed by Dr. Ponseti this

week

> > > was to make the sole in the front flexible so that when they

crouch

> > > down the shoe acts like a normal shoe and flexes at the toes.

He

> > > thinks this may take some of the pressure off the back of the

shoes

> > > because the only way they can flex now is at the ankles and heel

> > > area. We also talked (again) about putting some rubbery stuff

on the

> > > soles so that these kids aren't slipping and sliding on

hardwoods or

> > > linoleum floors. I think the combination of the flexible sole

and

> > > something that will grip the smooth floors will have our

children

> > > walking unaided in no time!! If Dr. Ponseti doesn't disagree

with

> > > the flexible sole idea I think we may see some cool shoes come

out

> > > soon! It didn't sound like Dr. P. had shot that idea down so

there's

> > > hope there!

> > >

> > > I told him I really liked the rivets, they are perfect for

fitting

> > > the straps exactly where each individual child needs them

most. I

> > > suggested that they break the straps free before shipping them

out

> > > because so far the two pairs I've seen like this were stiffly

fixed

> > > in one position till you break them free and swivel them a bit,

some

> > > parents may not notice that this can be done.

> > >

> > > We also talked about Christee's current issue with the buckle

digging

> > > into Lilee's foot. He said there was one other child who had

this

> > > issue and his suggestion was for mole skin for them but he's

> > > brainstorming if he can make the tongue longer on the very small

> > > shoes so that it goes under both the middle and lower strap to

> > > protect baby from this happening. I don't see it happening on

the

> > > larger shoes like Darbi has but maybe because the straps are so

close

> > > together on the tiny ones and their feet are still so puffy

that they

> > > need this modification. I'm hoping that when Christee gets

there

> > > that he will be able to go to Iowa City and meet with them

before

> > > Lilee is casted so he can see this for himself.

> > >

> > > I think that's it... If I remember something else I'll post

it. But

> > > I think this is all good news and hopefully by the time most of

you

> > > who have little ones in these shoes are ready for the larger

ones

> > > he'll have the heel counter thing all figured out.

> > >

> > >

> > > Contact info for MD Orthopaedics ( )

> > >

> > > 1-877- PONSETI

> > >

> > > mdortho@f...

> > >

> > > I don't have their address right here sorry... but it's been

posted

> > > recently and you can always call the above number.

> > >

> > > Kori

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Kori,

Just curious if you have thought about trying to melt the rubber and

kind of re-melt it back together? I don't know how, or with what,

just a thought...

allison

> > > Well, I finally got a chance to call Iowa yesterday. I talked

to

> > > Jeanne during the day and sent her the pics that I had of

Darbi's

> > > holed PM's and her sores. I'd sent them to Todd a couple of

weeks

> > > back but hadn't heard back and I'm not sure why but was not

> > > aware of this problem. Glad to hear now they have dsl at the

new

> > > office and the pic emails went through fine. They are still in

the

> > > process of building the new shop in town but and Todd are

still

> > > working at the old place (which happens to be the 's

home)

> > > till the new one is done. Funny, they have to go to town to go

to

> > > work now lol!

> > >

> > > So called me back in the evening and we talked for quite a

> > > while. He agrees with me about the heel counter and could see

> > > exactly what I was talking about from the pics. I am thrilled

that I

> > > was able to convey all that I needed to with those pics and he's

> > > absolutely in agreement about this issue. Poor man keeps

apologizing

> > > to me (as did Jeanne) agonizing about how he never wanted to

cause

> > > children to have pain and sores... he just wants to help

> > > them. <sigh> I told him I wasn't upset at all and I knew they

were

> > > breaking ground on these larger shoes and this kind of thing

runs

> > > with the territory. In the end they'll have a perfect shoe

designed

> > > for older kids. He is very accepting to constructive criticism

and

> > > is pleased to hear from parents in this way. It just so

happened

> > > that my daughter seems to be the guinea pig for FAB

improvements in

> > > the past couple of years. Poor kid... But if her problems

help them

> > > improve the shoes so no one else has issues... it's worth it I

> > > think. I doubt she'll be permanently damaged from having owies

for a

> > > few weeks.

> > >

> > > So what the plan is now, is that he's going to send me a couple

of

> > > impression kits and I'm going to lay the back of her heel into

it so

> > > he can make a plaster cast and see exactly where the new heel

counter

> > > should be. If this works, some of you who have older children

in

> > > sizes 4 and up (maybe 3, but he and I were thinking 4, 5, and 6

> > > should be considered at first - input from parents of babes in

sizes

> > > 2 and 3 please pipe up if you think those sizes/ages should be

> > > investigated too) may hear from him asking you to make

impressions of

> > > your child's heels so he can figure out where each size's heel

> > > counter should be. I think he needs to look at more than

Darbi's

> > > feet to know where the happy medium is for the average foot. Or

> > > perhaps he'll decide that in addition to the impressions he

already

> > > has us do normally that he'll just ask for the heel impression

> > > too. That way he could really make these individually for each

> > > child. But he is going to work on this issue and I hope to

have new

> > > shoes with a proper heel counter for Darbi soon to test out.

Soon

> > > would be great since she does have TWO broken pairs of shoes

now.

> > >

> > > We talked about the recent problems I've seen online with the 4

sets

> > > of shoes that have split in the back (which include our new

pair with

> > > the rivets). I think it might be that he got a bubble in the

mold

> > > because on Darbi's shoes when I put the rubber back together I

can

> > > see that there's a little indent right where it split that

looks like

> > > a tiny air bubble. Maybe it was a piece of sand or something

in the

> > > mold when he poured them? I don't know if the other shoes that

have

> > > split have this bubble but ours do and I can see how that may

make

> > > them split right there. I'm pretty sure the others split

because I

> > > holed them though. In talking about this he mentioned that

older

> > > walkers are pretty hard on these shoes and he's working on ways

to

> > > decrease the pressure/force on the rubber for older children.

The

> > > insole may have to be thicker in big kids shoes so they don't

split

> > > like this, who knows. One idea he'd passed by Dr. Ponseti this

week

> > > was to make the sole in the front flexible so that when they

crouch

> > > down the shoe acts like a normal shoe and flexes at the toes.

He

> > > thinks this may take some of the pressure off the back of the

shoes

> > > because the only way they can flex now is at the ankles and heel

> > > area. We also talked (again) about putting some rubbery stuff

on the

> > > soles so that these kids aren't slipping and sliding on

hardwoods or

> > > linoleum floors. I think the combination of the flexible sole

and

> > > something that will grip the smooth floors will have our

children

> > > walking unaided in no time!! If Dr. Ponseti doesn't disagree

with

> > > the flexible sole idea I think we may see some cool shoes come

out

> > > soon! It didn't sound like Dr. P. had shot that idea down so

there's

> > > hope there!

> > >

> > > I told him I really liked the rivets, they are perfect for

fitting

> > > the straps exactly where each individual child needs them

most. I

> > > suggested that they break the straps free before shipping them

out

> > > because so far the two pairs I've seen like this were stiffly

fixed

> > > in one position till you break them free and swivel them a bit,

some

> > > parents may not notice that this can be done.

> > >

> > > We also talked about Christee's current issue with the buckle

digging

> > > into Lilee's foot. He said there was one other child who had

this

> > > issue and his suggestion was for mole skin for them but he's

> > > brainstorming if he can make the tongue longer on the very small

> > > shoes so that it goes under both the middle and lower strap to

> > > protect baby from this happening. I don't see it happening on

the

> > > larger shoes like Darbi has but maybe because the straps are so

close

> > > together on the tiny ones and their feet are still so puffy

that they

> > > need this modification. I'm hoping that when Christee gets

there

> > > that he will be able to go to Iowa City and meet with them

before

> > > Lilee is casted so he can see this for himself.

> > >

> > > I think that's it... If I remember something else I'll post

it. But

> > > I think this is all good news and hopefully by the time most of

you

> > > who have little ones in these shoes are ready for the larger

ones

> > > he'll have the heel counter thing all figured out.

> > >

> > >

> > > Contact info for MD Orthopaedics ( )

> > >

> > > 1-877- PONSETI

> > >

> > > mdortho@f...

> > >

> > > I don't have their address right here sorry... but it's been

posted

> > > recently and you can always call the above number.

> > >

> > > Kori

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Kori,

Just curious if you have thought about trying to melt the rubber and

kind of re-melt it back together? I don't know how, or with what,

just a thought...

allison

> > > Well, I finally got a chance to call Iowa yesterday. I talked

to

> > > Jeanne during the day and sent her the pics that I had of

Darbi's

> > > holed PM's and her sores. I'd sent them to Todd a couple of

weeks

> > > back but hadn't heard back and I'm not sure why but was not

> > > aware of this problem. Glad to hear now they have dsl at the

new

> > > office and the pic emails went through fine. They are still in

the

> > > process of building the new shop in town but and Todd are

still

> > > working at the old place (which happens to be the 's

home)

> > > till the new one is done. Funny, they have to go to town to go

to

> > > work now lol!

> > >

> > > So called me back in the evening and we talked for quite a

> > > while. He agrees with me about the heel counter and could see

> > > exactly what I was talking about from the pics. I am thrilled

that I

> > > was able to convey all that I needed to with those pics and he's

> > > absolutely in agreement about this issue. Poor man keeps

apologizing

> > > to me (as did Jeanne) agonizing about how he never wanted to

cause

> > > children to have pain and sores... he just wants to help

> > > them. <sigh> I told him I wasn't upset at all and I knew they

were

> > > breaking ground on these larger shoes and this kind of thing

runs

> > > with the territory. In the end they'll have a perfect shoe

designed

> > > for older kids. He is very accepting to constructive criticism

and

> > > is pleased to hear from parents in this way. It just so

happened

> > > that my daughter seems to be the guinea pig for FAB

improvements in

> > > the past couple of years. Poor kid... But if her problems

help them

> > > improve the shoes so no one else has issues... it's worth it I

> > > think. I doubt she'll be permanently damaged from having owies

for a

> > > few weeks.

> > >

> > > So what the plan is now, is that he's going to send me a couple

of

> > > impression kits and I'm going to lay the back of her heel into

it so

> > > he can make a plaster cast and see exactly where the new heel

counter

> > > should be. If this works, some of you who have older children

in

> > > sizes 4 and up (maybe 3, but he and I were thinking 4, 5, and 6

> > > should be considered at first - input from parents of babes in

sizes

> > > 2 and 3 please pipe up if you think those sizes/ages should be

> > > investigated too) may hear from him asking you to make

impressions of

> > > your child's heels so he can figure out where each size's heel

> > > counter should be. I think he needs to look at more than

Darbi's

> > > feet to know where the happy medium is for the average foot. Or

> > > perhaps he'll decide that in addition to the impressions he

already

> > > has us do normally that he'll just ask for the heel impression

> > > too. That way he could really make these individually for each

> > > child. But he is going to work on this issue and I hope to

have new

> > > shoes with a proper heel counter for Darbi soon to test out.

Soon

> > > would be great since she does have TWO broken pairs of shoes

now.

> > >

> > > We talked about the recent problems I've seen online with the 4

sets

> > > of shoes that have split in the back (which include our new

pair with

> > > the rivets). I think it might be that he got a bubble in the

mold

> > > because on Darbi's shoes when I put the rubber back together I

can

> > > see that there's a little indent right where it split that

looks like

> > > a tiny air bubble. Maybe it was a piece of sand or something

in the

> > > mold when he poured them? I don't know if the other shoes that

have

> > > split have this bubble but ours do and I can see how that may

make

> > > them split right there. I'm pretty sure the others split

because I

> > > holed them though. In talking about this he mentioned that

older

> > > walkers are pretty hard on these shoes and he's working on ways

to

> > > decrease the pressure/force on the rubber for older children.

The

> > > insole may have to be thicker in big kids shoes so they don't

split

> > > like this, who knows. One idea he'd passed by Dr. Ponseti this

week

> > > was to make the sole in the front flexible so that when they

crouch

> > > down the shoe acts like a normal shoe and flexes at the toes.

He

> > > thinks this may take some of the pressure off the back of the

shoes

> > > because the only way they can flex now is at the ankles and heel

> > > area. We also talked (again) about putting some rubbery stuff

on the

> > > soles so that these kids aren't slipping and sliding on

hardwoods or

> > > linoleum floors. I think the combination of the flexible sole

and

> > > something that will grip the smooth floors will have our

children

> > > walking unaided in no time!! If Dr. Ponseti doesn't disagree

with

> > > the flexible sole idea I think we may see some cool shoes come

out

> > > soon! It didn't sound like Dr. P. had shot that idea down so

there's

> > > hope there!

> > >

> > > I told him I really liked the rivets, they are perfect for

fitting

> > > the straps exactly where each individual child needs them

most. I

> > > suggested that they break the straps free before shipping them

out

> > > because so far the two pairs I've seen like this were stiffly

fixed

> > > in one position till you break them free and swivel them a bit,

some

> > > parents may not notice that this can be done.

> > >

> > > We also talked about Christee's current issue with the buckle

digging

> > > into Lilee's foot. He said there was one other child who had

this

> > > issue and his suggestion was for mole skin for them but he's

> > > brainstorming if he can make the tongue longer on the very small

> > > shoes so that it goes under both the middle and lower strap to

> > > protect baby from this happening. I don't see it happening on

the

> > > larger shoes like Darbi has but maybe because the straps are so

close

> > > together on the tiny ones and their feet are still so puffy

that they

> > > need this modification. I'm hoping that when Christee gets

there

> > > that he will be able to go to Iowa City and meet with them

before

> > > Lilee is casted so he can see this for himself.

> > >

> > > I think that's it... If I remember something else I'll post

it. But

> > > I think this is all good news and hopefully by the time most of

you

> > > who have little ones in these shoes are ready for the larger

ones

> > > he'll have the heel counter thing all figured out.

> > >

> > >

> > > Contact info for MD Orthopaedics ( )

> > >

> > > 1-877- PONSETI

> > >

> > > mdortho@f...

> > >

> > > I don't have their address right here sorry... but it's been

posted

> > > recently and you can always call the above number.

> > >

> > > Kori

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Re: Talked to about the heel counter issue

Kori,

Just curious if you have thought about trying to melt the rubber and

kind of re-melt it back together? I don't know how, or with what,

just a thought...

allison

> > > Well, I finally got a chance to call Iowa yesterday. I talked

to

> > > Jeanne during the day and sent her the pics that I had of

Darbi's

> > > holed PM's and her sores. I'd sent them to Todd a couple of

weeks

> > > back but hadn't heard back and I'm not sure why but was not

> > > aware of this problem. Glad to hear now they have dsl at the

new

> > > office and the pic emails went through fine. They are still in

the

> > > process of building the new shop in town but and Todd are

still

> > > working at the old place (which happens to be the 's

home)

> > > till the new one is done. Funny, they have to go to town to go

to

> > > work now lol!

> > >

> > > So called me back in the evening and we talked for quite a

> > > while. He agrees with me about the heel counter and could see

> > > exactly what I was talking about from the pics. I am thrilled

that I

> > > was able to convey all that I needed to with those pics and he's

> > > absolutely in agreement about this issue. Poor man keeps

apologizing

> > > to me (as did Jeanne) agonizing about how he never wanted to

cause

> > > children to have pain and sores... he just wants to help

> > > them. <sigh> I told him I wasn't upset at all and I knew they

were

> > > breaking ground on these larger shoes and this kind of thing

runs

> > > with the territory. In the end they'll have a perfect shoe

designed

> > > for older kids. He is very accepting to constructive criticism

and

> > > is pleased to hear from parents in this way. It just so

happened

> > > that my daughter seems to be the guinea pig for FAB

improvements in

> > > the past couple of years. Poor kid... But if her problems

help them

> > > improve the shoes so no one else has issues... it's worth it I

> > > think. I doubt she'll be permanently damaged from having owies

for a

> > > few weeks.

> > >

> > > So what the plan is now, is that he's going to send me a couple

of

> > > impression kits and I'm going to lay the back of her heel into

it so

> > > he can make a plaster cast and see exactly where the new heel

counter

> > > should be. If this works, some of you who have older children

in

> > > sizes 4 and up (maybe 3, but he and I were thinking 4, 5, and 6

> > > should be considered at first - input from parents of babes in

sizes

> > > 2 and 3 please pipe up if you think those sizes/ages should be

> > > investigated too) may hear from him asking you to make

impressions of

> > > your child's heels so he can figure out where each size's heel

> > > counter should be. I think he needs to look at more than

Darbi's

> > > feet to know where the happy medium is for the average foot. Or

> > > perhaps he'll decide that in addition to the impressions he

already

> > > has us do normally that he'll just ask for the heel impression

> > > too. That way he could really make these individually for each

> > > child. But he is going to work on this issue and I hope to

have new

> > > shoes with a proper heel counter for Darbi soon to test out.

Soon

> > > would be great since she does have TWO broken pairs of shoes

now.

> > >

> > > We talked about the recent problems I've seen online with the 4

sets

> > > of shoes that have split in the back (which include our new

pair with

> > > the rivets). I think it might be that he got a bubble in the

mold

> > > because on Darbi's shoes when I put the rubber back together I

can

> > > see that there's a little indent right where it split that

looks like

> > > a tiny air bubble. Maybe it was a piece of sand or something

in the

> > > mold when he poured them? I don't know if the other shoes that

have

> > > split have this bubble but ours do and I can see how that may

make

> > > them split right there. I'm pretty sure the others split

because I

> > > holed them though. In talking about this he mentioned that

older

> > > walkers are pretty hard on these shoes and he's working on ways

to

> > > decrease the pressure/force on the rubber for older children.

The

> > > insole may have to be thicker in big kids shoes so they don't

split

> > > like this, who knows. One idea he'd passed by Dr. Ponseti this

week

> > > was to make the sole in the front flexible so that when they

crouch

> > > down the shoe acts like a normal shoe and flexes at the toes.

He

> > > thinks this may take some of the pressure off the back of the

shoes

> > > because the only way they can flex now is at the ankles and heel

> > > area. We also talked (again) about putting some rubbery stuff

on the

> > > soles so that these kids aren't slipping and sliding on

hardwoods or

> > > linoleum floors. I think the combination of the flexible sole

and

> > > something that will grip the smooth floors will have our

children

> > > walking unaided in no time!! If Dr. Ponseti doesn't disagree

with

> > > the flexible sole idea I think we may see some cool shoes come

out

> > > soon! It didn't sound like Dr. P. had shot that idea down so

there's

> > > hope there!

> > >

> > > I told him I really liked the rivets, they are perfect for

fitting

> > > the straps exactly where each individual child needs them

most. I

> > > suggested that they break the straps free before shipping them

out

> > > because so far the two pairs I've seen like this were stiffly

fixed

> > > in one position till you break them free and swivel them a bit,

some

> > > parents may not notice that this can be done.

> > >

> > > We also talked about Christee's current issue with the buckle

digging

> > > into Lilee's foot. He said there was one other child who had

this

> > > issue and his suggestion was for mole skin for them but he's

> > > brainstorming if he can make the tongue longer on the very small

> > > shoes so that it goes under both the middle and lower strap to

> > > protect baby from this happening. I don't see it happening on

the

> > > larger shoes like Darbi has but maybe because the straps are so

close

> > > together on the tiny ones and their feet are still so puffy

that they

> > > need this modification. I'm hoping that when Christee gets

there

> > > that he will be able to go to Iowa City and meet with them

before

> > > Lilee is casted so he can see this for himself.

> > >

> > > I think that's it... If I remember something else I'll post

it. But

> > > I think this is all good news and hopefully by the time most of

you

> > > who have little ones in these shoes are ready for the larger

ones

> > > he'll have the heel counter thing all figured out.

> > >

> > >

> > > Contact info for MD Orthopaedics ( )

> > >

> > > 1-877- PONSETI

> > >

> > > mdortho@f...

> > >

> > > I don't have their address right here sorry... but it's been

posted

> > > recently and you can always call the above number.

> > >

> > > Kori

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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