Guest guest Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 my heart is breaking for you. My name is ee and I have two sons, both have bilateral club foot (both feet on both kids). What you are describing is NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT normal and NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT necessary! It's torture! It's horrible! It's totally wrong!!!! Please honey listen to me and if necessary knock your husband up side the head till he sees the light! PLEASE go see a Ponseti doctor. Your daughter should not be suffering this terrible experience. Her skin should not be rotting, she should not be screaming herself purple, all this is SO wrong!!! This is the stuff Ponseti eleminates, don't you understand? Club foot treatment is not painful or harmful, it's gentle. Botox is not necessary and it's a very painful thing to have done. My oldest son went through nearly two years of WRONG/ BAD treatment and now at age 7 still has issues that will last him all his life. My other son was treated by Dr. Ponseti in 5 short weeks and has perfect feet. Two years of bad treatment leaving bad feet. Five weeks of right treatment leaving perfect feet. Think about that. It's right here in my house. Two living children to testify. It is not too late for your child to recieve the right treatment - the one that DOESN " T hurt or rot her skin; the one that will give him normal feet to dance on at his wedding. To ride bikes, skate board, play ball......Please, get a 2nd opinion. Please open the links associated with this group, arm yourself with the information, and then with these FACTS please approach your husband with this information. Tell him it cannot hurt to try (but it does hurt to do what you are doing!) Tell him that as half this child's parent you insist on finding an alternative because this is so wrong. Tell him if Ponseti's Method cannot fix your daughter you can revert back to this (quack) and his botox crap but you have to act quickly. You can't just cast and un-cast and use shoes then not use shoes in this chaotic manner and expect your kid to have normal feet after wards. IT doesnt work that way!!!!!! The bones have to be put back in to alignment according to a certain sequence, not just shoved in to shape. Done right it's gentle and painless and only lasts a few short weeks. I had a purple screamer too for nearly 2 years, listen please, I've been in your shoes and now my 7 year old has these crappy feet. We have been accused here at this group of being a group of fanatics. WEll, guilty as charged I suppose but I am a Ponseti Fanatic because I have four feet in my house that both prove and dis-prove the whole situation. Ponseti's method works - fast, easy, painless, no rotten skin. There is a logical manner to the casting moving smoothly in to a logical manner of bracing and it's a cake walk compared to what you describe BUT IT WORKS. Treatments dont' have to be cruel to work - please tell this to your husband - it doesn't have to hurt to work. The information is here, on this group, in it's files, scientific and medical proof, not just parent-opinions. Real proof, real studies, real photos, not just our say-so. Educate yourself - the fact that you even wrote means you understand something is terribly wrong with your child's treatment and you need to find the right path. This is the right path. My sons would both tell you this is the right path - the one with stiff ugly feet would tell you to run for Ponseti and the one with pretty normal feet would tell you to run to Ponseti... OH I feel sick reading what you describe, please - stop what you are doing Sweetie it doesn't have to be this way! Speak up for your son, he cannot speak for himself. God bless you so much right now, shawnee New - Introduction Hi there, I was referred to this group by another (clubfootcanada) in order to obtain some more information about the Pnseti method of treating clubfoot. Hello All, my name is and my son was born on June 19th , 2005 with bilateral clubfoot (idiopathic). We were not aware of the condition ahead of his birth, so it was a surprise when he came out! I was not freaked out, or worried as I knew right away what it was and that it was treatable, although I didn't know how. We consulted with Children's Hospital when he was two days old and were told his were " moderate to severe " , which according to our Orthopedic Surgeon was unusual for idiopathic. We were also told his treatment would be as follows: 8 weeks of casts (once a week) Botox injection in each Achilles tendon Boots and bar (24/7 until he's able to stand and then night time until he is 4, partnered with special Nu Balance running shoes) We left with his first set of casts on. He is now almost four months old, has had 12 casts and two Botox injections in each calf and just last week was put in the boots and bar. From the beginning he has had a very difficult time with the health of his skin under the casts. His skin has been raw and weeping with very dry and large patches of eczema. He's gained the reputation of being the " purple screamer " at the hospital because he gets so worked up when they are treating him. He looks at me with pain in his eyes, tears streaming down his face with an expression that says " do something! " Six weeks ago, we had a week long break from the casts to heal his skin, and even though this was going to set us back, we welcomed it. I realized what I had missed by casting him at two days old. We had baths together, I kissed his feet obsessively and we played with his toes. Four weeks ago, we had a trial run with the boots and bar because the doctor was concerned about his skin as it was bad right away again. I struggled for two days with them and he kicked them off about a jillion times, until I took him back to the hospital and had him re-casted. The following appointment he had " two week " casts put on and when I took them off last week I was appalled. I had noticed that they were getting smelly, but the backs of both knees and the tops of both feet were raw, weeping, scaly and looked like they had been burned. I could not believe the smell - it smelled like death. I was reassured by the doctor that it was okay and we are trying the boots again. As relieved as I was to make the switch, initially I was not finding them any less painful in terms of him screaming his head off when I put them on. One of his heels still isn't really dropped down enough for the boot and I find that even though I seem to get them on okay, his feet slip below the marks they made on them for me. It has been frustrating to say the least. He was very upset the next morning, crying a lot and that is unusual behaviour for him as he is generally sunny most of the time. There has been improvement in that area, but he still kicks them off, his feet slip inside of them and he has devised a way to kick that loosens the nut on one of the boots! Yesterday I went for a follow up and watched as the doctor reefed his bad (left) foot up to get the number reading she wanted. He was screaming and I was trying to keep it together. In addition to that, when I mentioned that I co-sleep with him the doctor started lecturing me about sleeping in the same bed with him because of the hardware maybe not allowing him to move under blankets, blah blah blah. I found myself having to justify my lifestyle to her and I was very irked. I didn't bother to tell her that when he does sleep in his crib, he tummy sleeps as I probably would have been criticized for that too! I feel very often that she talks down to me and on the rare occasions that my husband accompanies me to the appointments, she will talk directly to him and over me. This is perhaps because he has a degree and I don't. It has been recommended to me by others in the Clubfoot Canada group that I go and see the local doctor that practices the Ponseti Method. My biggest obstacle will be my husband in this endeavour because he feels the Botox is cutting edge and is happy with the way things are going (of course he is, he's not there holding down his son while he screams every week!) I approached him last night about this issue and he agreed that I could look into it, but what he wants to see is documentation on this method - and seriously, the more " medical journal " it is, the better as he understands numbers and statistics better than testimonials. I presented to him that since I am the one who is largely dealing with this issue why would it matter which doctor I took Hayden to if it meant a more gentle treatment for him? I haven't fully convinced him, but I am determined to stand my ground on this. Please, if anyone can help me, either by directing me to medical articles, websites or your own stories on this group, I would really appreciate it! I am feeling very lost and alone, relatively unsupported (emotionally) by my husband and am just looking for some " been there " testimonials. Please feel free to email me privately if you like, because misery sure loves company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2005 Report Share Posted October 14, 2005 my heart is breaking for you. My name is ee and I have two sons, both have bilateral club foot (both feet on both kids). What you are describing is NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT normal and NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT necessary! It's torture! It's horrible! It's totally wrong!!!! Please honey listen to me and if necessary knock your husband up side the head till he sees the light! PLEASE go see a Ponseti doctor. Your daughter should not be suffering this terrible experience. Her skin should not be rotting, she should not be screaming herself purple, all this is SO wrong!!! This is the stuff Ponseti eleminates, don't you understand? Club foot treatment is not painful or harmful, it's gentle. Botox is not necessary and it's a very painful thing to have done. My oldest son went through nearly two years of WRONG/ BAD treatment and now at age 7 still has issues that will last him all his life. My other son was treated by Dr. Ponseti in 5 short weeks and has perfect feet. Two years of bad treatment leaving bad feet. Five weeks of right treatment leaving perfect feet. Think about that. It's right here in my house. Two living children to testify. It is not too late for your child to recieve the right treatment - the one that DOESN " T hurt or rot her skin; the one that will give him normal feet to dance on at his wedding. To ride bikes, skate board, play ball......Please, get a 2nd opinion. Please open the links associated with this group, arm yourself with the information, and then with these FACTS please approach your husband with this information. Tell him it cannot hurt to try (but it does hurt to do what you are doing!) Tell him that as half this child's parent you insist on finding an alternative because this is so wrong. Tell him if Ponseti's Method cannot fix your daughter you can revert back to this (quack) and his botox crap but you have to act quickly. You can't just cast and un-cast and use shoes then not use shoes in this chaotic manner and expect your kid to have normal feet after wards. IT doesnt work that way!!!!!! The bones have to be put back in to alignment according to a certain sequence, not just shoved in to shape. Done right it's gentle and painless and only lasts a few short weeks. I had a purple screamer too for nearly 2 years, listen please, I've been in your shoes and now my 7 year old has these crappy feet. We have been accused here at this group of being a group of fanatics. WEll, guilty as charged I suppose but I am a Ponseti Fanatic because I have four feet in my house that both prove and dis-prove the whole situation. Ponseti's method works - fast, easy, painless, no rotten skin. There is a logical manner to the casting moving smoothly in to a logical manner of bracing and it's a cake walk compared to what you describe BUT IT WORKS. Treatments dont' have to be cruel to work - please tell this to your husband - it doesn't have to hurt to work. The information is here, on this group, in it's files, scientific and medical proof, not just parent-opinions. Real proof, real studies, real photos, not just our say-so. Educate yourself - the fact that you even wrote means you understand something is terribly wrong with your child's treatment and you need to find the right path. This is the right path. My sons would both tell you this is the right path - the one with stiff ugly feet would tell you to run for Ponseti and the one with pretty normal feet would tell you to run to Ponseti... OH I feel sick reading what you describe, please - stop what you are doing Sweetie it doesn't have to be this way! Speak up for your son, he cannot speak for himself. God bless you so much right now, shawnee New - Introduction Hi there, I was referred to this group by another (clubfootcanada) in order to obtain some more information about the Pnseti method of treating clubfoot. Hello All, my name is and my son was born on June 19th , 2005 with bilateral clubfoot (idiopathic). We were not aware of the condition ahead of his birth, so it was a surprise when he came out! I was not freaked out, or worried as I knew right away what it was and that it was treatable, although I didn't know how. We consulted with Children's Hospital when he was two days old and were told his were " moderate to severe " , which according to our Orthopedic Surgeon was unusual for idiopathic. We were also told his treatment would be as follows: 8 weeks of casts (once a week) Botox injection in each Achilles tendon Boots and bar (24/7 until he's able to stand and then night time until he is 4, partnered with special Nu Balance running shoes) We left with his first set of casts on. He is now almost four months old, has had 12 casts and two Botox injections in each calf and just last week was put in the boots and bar. From the beginning he has had a very difficult time with the health of his skin under the casts. His skin has been raw and weeping with very dry and large patches of eczema. He's gained the reputation of being the " purple screamer " at the hospital because he gets so worked up when they are treating him. He looks at me with pain in his eyes, tears streaming down his face with an expression that says " do something! " Six weeks ago, we had a week long break from the casts to heal his skin, and even though this was going to set us back, we welcomed it. I realized what I had missed by casting him at two days old. We had baths together, I kissed his feet obsessively and we played with his toes. Four weeks ago, we had a trial run with the boots and bar because the doctor was concerned about his skin as it was bad right away again. I struggled for two days with them and he kicked them off about a jillion times, until I took him back to the hospital and had him re-casted. The following appointment he had " two week " casts put on and when I took them off last week I was appalled. I had noticed that they were getting smelly, but the backs of both knees and the tops of both feet were raw, weeping, scaly and looked like they had been burned. I could not believe the smell - it smelled like death. I was reassured by the doctor that it was okay and we are trying the boots again. As relieved as I was to make the switch, initially I was not finding them any less painful in terms of him screaming his head off when I put them on. One of his heels still isn't really dropped down enough for the boot and I find that even though I seem to get them on okay, his feet slip below the marks they made on them for me. It has been frustrating to say the least. He was very upset the next morning, crying a lot and that is unusual behaviour for him as he is generally sunny most of the time. There has been improvement in that area, but he still kicks them off, his feet slip inside of them and he has devised a way to kick that loosens the nut on one of the boots! Yesterday I went for a follow up and watched as the doctor reefed his bad (left) foot up to get the number reading she wanted. He was screaming and I was trying to keep it together. In addition to that, when I mentioned that I co-sleep with him the doctor started lecturing me about sleeping in the same bed with him because of the hardware maybe not allowing him to move under blankets, blah blah blah. I found myself having to justify my lifestyle to her and I was very irked. I didn't bother to tell her that when he does sleep in his crib, he tummy sleeps as I probably would have been criticized for that too! I feel very often that she talks down to me and on the rare occasions that my husband accompanies me to the appointments, she will talk directly to him and over me. This is perhaps because he has a degree and I don't. It has been recommended to me by others in the Clubfoot Canada group that I go and see the local doctor that practices the Ponseti Method. My biggest obstacle will be my husband in this endeavour because he feels the Botox is cutting edge and is happy with the way things are going (of course he is, he's not there holding down his son while he screams every week!) I approached him last night about this issue and he agreed that I could look into it, but what he wants to see is documentation on this method - and seriously, the more " medical journal " it is, the better as he understands numbers and statistics better than testimonials. I presented to him that since I am the one who is largely dealing with this issue why would it matter which doctor I took Hayden to if it meant a more gentle treatment for him? I haven't fully convinced him, but I am determined to stand my ground on this. Please, if anyone can help me, either by directing me to medical articles, websites or your own stories on this group, I would really appreciate it! I am feeling very lost and alone, relatively unsupported (emotionally) by my husband and am just looking for some " been there " testimonials. Please feel free to email me privately if you like, because misery sure loves company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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