MO and dressing in itsy bitsy clothing

[Guest guest]

Okay...maybe I'm in the minority here...but I get embarressed when I see these

MO people wearing these little short dresses, really tight clothing etc. I

don't know if its that there is NO way I'd dress that way or what but its not

attractive, I think it promotes getting the wrong kind of attention (for thin

people tooooo) and while I'm glad they are so confident with themselves...I

think its sending the wrong message. Am I being prejudice? I suppose, I don't

know...its not like I'm not their size but I just would like to have a little

more class and dress nice but not let it all hang out all over the place...

AJ

susan4541@... wrote:

><< , how many MO people do you know who are going to walk around in backless

>tops with built in flimsy little bra's... Ooops. Maybe I shouldn't ask, I

>have seen MO people wearing these things, but they really need to know their

>limits whether they are 17 or 71! :-)

[Guest guest]

Okay...maybe I'm in the minority here...but I get embarressed when I see these

MO people wearing these little short dresses, really tight clothing etc. I

don't know if its that there is NO way I'd dress that way or what but its not

attractive, I think it promotes getting the wrong kind of attention (for thin

people tooooo) and while I'm glad they are so confident with themselves...I

think its sending the wrong message. Am I being prejudice? I suppose, I don't

know...its not like I'm not their size but I just would like to have a little

more class and dress nice but not let it all hang out all over the place...

AJ

susan4541@... wrote:

><< , how many MO people do you know who are going to walk around in backless

>tops with built in flimsy little bra's... Ooops. Maybe I shouldn't ask, I

>have seen MO people wearing these things, but they really need to know their

>limits whether they are 17 or 71! :-)

[Guest guest]

> Am I being prejudice? I suppose, I don't know...its not like I'm

not their size but I just would like to have a little more class and

dress nice but not let it all hang out all over the place...

>

> AJ

>

Prejudiced? Naw, it is just your mother's training showing. To this

day I look at women of any size who wear straight skirts tight enough

to cup under the butt (are there any other kind these days) as

fashion failures. Mother was a first class seamstress and tailor when

she wasn't being a nut case and instilled some pretty stringent

notions about proper fit and design. I intend to be a pint sized

clothes horse if I ever get switched. (feeling just a little

depressed today, but I will get over it-- no date from office staff,

Dr. Anthone says to go ahead and schedual-- just waiting is so

miserable.)

Nan e. in CA depressed and waiting

[Guest guest]

> Am I being prejudice? I suppose, I don't know...its not like I'm

not their size but I just would like to have a little more class and

dress nice but not let it all hang out all over the place...

>

> AJ

>

Prejudiced? Naw, it is just your mother's training showing. To this

day I look at women of any size who wear straight skirts tight enough

to cup under the butt (are there any other kind these days) as

fashion failures. Mother was a first class seamstress and tailor when

she wasn't being a nut case and instilled some pretty stringent

notions about proper fit and design. I intend to be a pint sized

clothes horse if I ever get switched. (feeling just a little

depressed today, but I will get over it-- no date from office staff,

Dr. Anthone says to go ahead and schedual-- just waiting is so

miserable.)

Nan e. in CA depressed and waiting

[Guest guest]

I have a friend like this.. she tends to wear tight, short,

decollete'd anything.. bustiers, leather hootchy shorts.. her hubby

loves it.. but sometimes I just cringe. I love her.. but sheesh!

of course.. I'm also jealous because she has very muscular, sculpted

calves and thighs.. its genetic.. but she looks like a bodybuilder

from about mid-thigh down.. Me- I get thunder thighs and peasant

legs.. not fair!

....but then, such is my life...

Hugs,

Liane

>

> ><< , how many MO people do you know who are going to walk around in

backless

> >tops with built in flimsy little bra's... Ooops. Maybe I shouldn't

ask, I

> >have seen MO people wearing these things, but they really need to

know their

> >limits whether they are 17 or 71! :-)

[Guest guest]

I have a friend like this.. she tends to wear tight, short,

decollete'd anything.. bustiers, leather hootchy shorts.. her hubby

loves it.. but sometimes I just cringe. I love her.. but sheesh!

of course.. I'm also jealous because she has very muscular, sculpted

calves and thighs.. its genetic.. but she looks like a bodybuilder

from about mid-thigh down.. Me- I get thunder thighs and peasant

legs.. not fair!

....but then, such is my life...

Hugs,

Liane

>

> ><< , how many MO people do you know who are going to walk around in

backless

> >tops with built in flimsy little bra's... Ooops. Maybe I shouldn't

ask, I

> >have seen MO people wearing these things, but they really need to

know their

> >limits whether they are 17 or 71! :-)

[Guest guest]

{{{{{{{{{{{{{Nan}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

Don't worry, honey.. you're gonna get there!

Hugs,

Liane

...also depressed today... sigh..

> > Am I being prejudice? I suppose, I don't know...its not like I'm

> not their size but I just would like to have a little more class and

> dress nice but not let it all hang out all over the place...

> >

> > AJ

> >

>

> Prejudiced? Naw, it is just your mother's training showing. To this

> day I look at women of any size who wear straight skirts tight

enough

> to cup under the butt (are there any other kind these days) as

> fashion failures. Mother was a first class seamstress and tailor

when

> she wasn't being a nut case and instilled some pretty stringent

> notions about proper fit and design. I intend to be a pint sized

> clothes horse if I ever get switched. (feeling just a little

> depressed today, but I will get over it-- no date from office staff,

> Dr. Anthone says to go ahead and schedual-- just waiting is so

> miserable.)

> Nan e. in CA depressed and waiting

[Guest guest]

{{{{{{{{{{{{{Nan}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}

Don't worry, honey.. you're gonna get there!

Hugs,

Liane

...also depressed today... sigh..

> > Am I being prejudice? I suppose, I don't know...its not like I'm

> not their size but I just would like to have a little more class and

> dress nice but not let it all hang out all over the place...

> >

> > AJ

> >

>

> Prejudiced? Naw, it is just your mother's training showing. To this

> day I look at women of any size who wear straight skirts tight

enough

> to cup under the butt (are there any other kind these days) as

> fashion failures. Mother was a first class seamstress and tailor

when

> she wasn't being a nut case and instilled some pretty stringent

> notions about proper fit and design. I intend to be a pint sized

> clothes horse if I ever get switched. (feeling just a little

> depressed today, but I will get over it-- no date from office staff,

> Dr. Anthone says to go ahead and schedual-- just waiting is so

> miserable.)

> Nan e. in CA depressed and waiting

[Guest guest]

I don't think its my mom's training...she's always been supportive of anything I

wanted to wear. I'm sure its just my own sense of style is in direct conflict

with that way of dressing..LOL

AJ

Leafynan@... wrote:

>

>> Am I being prejudice? I suppose, I don't know...its not like I'm

>not their size but I just would like to have a little more class and

>dress nice but not let it all hang out all over the place...

>>

>> AJ

>>

>

>Prejudiced? Naw, it is just your mother's training showing. To this

>day I look at women of any size who wear straight skirts tight enough

>to cup under the butt (are there any other kind these days) as

>fashion failures. Mother was a first class seamstress and tailor when

>she wasn't being a nut case and instilled some pretty stringent

>notions about proper fit and design. I intend to be a pint sized

>clothes horse if I ever get switched. (feeling just a little

>depressed today, but I will get over it-- no date from office staff,

>Dr. Anthone says to go ahead and schedual-- just waiting is so

>miserable.)

>Nan e. in CA depressed and waiting

[Guest guest]

I don't think its my mom's training...she's always been supportive of anything I

wanted to wear. I'm sure its just my own sense of style is in direct conflict

with that way of dressing..LOL

AJ

Leafynan@... wrote:

>

>> Am I being prejudice? I suppose, I don't know...its not like I'm

>not their size but I just would like to have a little more class and

>dress nice but not let it all hang out all over the place...

>>

>> AJ

>>

>

>Prejudiced? Naw, it is just your mother's training showing. To this

>day I look at women of any size who wear straight skirts tight enough

>to cup under the butt (are there any other kind these days) as

>fashion failures. Mother was a first class seamstress and tailor when

>she wasn't being a nut case and instilled some pretty stringent

>notions about proper fit and design. I intend to be a pint sized

>clothes horse if I ever get switched. (feeling just a little

>depressed today, but I will get over it-- no date from office staff,

>Dr. Anthone says to go ahead and schedual-- just waiting is so

>miserable.)

>Nan e. in CA depressed and waiting

[Guest guest]

would like to have a little more class and dress nice but not let it all

hang out all over the place...>>>

thats the key, AJ! You and I and many others are more classy than to let it

hang out all over the place. Im very conscious of how I look and refuse to

go out in public looking stupid. The last thing I wanted was attention to

my obesity!

I think the more classy people will take pains to look right.....the rest

either dont care or they dont see themselves as we do. We also have to keep

in mind that if its during hot weather, they are miserable and probably

trying to stay cool no matter what it takes.....

Judie =)

[Guest guest]

would like to have a little more class and dress nice but not let it all

hang out all over the place...>>>

thats the key, AJ! You and I and many others are more classy than to let it

hang out all over the place. Im very conscious of how I look and refuse to

go out in public looking stupid. The last thing I wanted was attention to

my obesity!

I think the more classy people will take pains to look right.....the rest

either dont care or they dont see themselves as we do. We also have to keep

in mind that if its during hot weather, they are miserable and probably

trying to stay cool no matter what it takes.....

Judie =)

[Guest guest]

but then, such is my life...

Hugs,

Liane>>>>

Hey Liane!

You have Grimm! and you have all of us here so your life is richly

blessed......!!

Hugs, Judie

[Guest guest]

but then, such is my life...

Hugs,

Liane>>>>

Hey Liane!

You have Grimm! and you have all of us here so your life is richly

blessed......!!

Hugs, Judie

[Guest guest]

Its called 'Hoochie Mama'.. and it can be seen on Ricki Lake, Jerry

Springer and shows like that, where morals are loose and clothes are

tight.. this, as well as the subject matter serves to prove what

'trailer trash' mentality is around. Id rather not be 'all that'

thank you very much, and keep my knees together. It seems like this

kind of persona overcompensates for what they really feel, insecure

and undignified. Unfortunately, the behavior is the symptom, not the

problem and its the wrong way to address self esteem issues. IMHO

>

> ><< , how many MO people do you know who are going to walk around in

backless

> >tops with built in flimsy little bra's... Ooops. Maybe I shouldn't

ask, I

> >have seen MO people wearing these things, but they really need to

know their

> >limits whether they are 17 or 71! :-)

[Guest guest]

Its called 'Hoochie Mama'.. and it can be seen on Ricki Lake, Jerry

Springer and shows like that, where morals are loose and clothes are

tight.. this, as well as the subject matter serves to prove what

'trailer trash' mentality is around. Id rather not be 'all that'

thank you very much, and keep my knees together. It seems like this

kind of persona overcompensates for what they really feel, insecure

and undignified. Unfortunately, the behavior is the symptom, not the

problem and its the wrong way to address self esteem issues. IMHO

>

> ><< , how many MO people do you know who are going to walk around in

backless

> >tops with built in flimsy little bra's... Ooops. Maybe I shouldn't

ask, I

> >have seen MO people wearing these things, but they really need to

know their

> >limits whether they are 17 or 71! :-)

[Guest guest]

I partly agree it is a self esteem issue. IMHO you would have to be

nuts to go on any of those shows to air your dirty laundry anyway. I

remember when I was in high school desperately wanting to look like

everyone else. I would wear the tight jordache jeans (when I could

find them in my size) and all the other tight " hoochie " clothing

(again, if I could find it in my size) because I wanted to fit in.

The Pat Benatar look was really in then too and she weighed like 90

lbs! When I looked in the mirror, I thought I looked good. I don't

know what it is but even now, when I get ready to go out and put my

makeup on, etc., it is like I can't see how fat I really am. It

isn't until I get a load of myself in a picture or video that I am

ready to shoot myself. I don't know if that happens to others but

maybe it is a coping thing...or denial. Anyway, I keep telling my

husband when I lose all my weight and get my plastic surgery, I am

going to be a Juggy on " The Man Show " . LOL He hates when I say that!

Hunter

June 18, 2001 Dr. Gagner BMI 61

As of August 10, 2001 -57 lbs BMI 52...whoo hoo!

> Its called 'Hoochie Mama'.. and it can be seen on Ricki Lake, Jerry

> Springer and shows like that, where morals are loose and clothes

are

> tight.. this, as well as the subject matter serves to prove what

> 'trailer trash' mentality is around. Id rather not be 'all that'

> thank you very much, and keep my knees together. It seems like

this

> kind of persona overcompensates for what they really feel, insecure

> and undignified. Unfortunately, the behavior is the symptom, not

the

> problem and its the wrong way to address self esteem issues. IMHO

>

[Guest guest]

I partly agree it is a self esteem issue. IMHO you would have to be

nuts to go on any of those shows to air your dirty laundry anyway. I

remember when I was in high school desperately wanting to look like

everyone else. I would wear the tight jordache jeans (when I could

find them in my size) and all the other tight " hoochie " clothing

(again, if I could find it in my size) because I wanted to fit in.

The Pat Benatar look was really in then too and she weighed like 90

lbs! When I looked in the mirror, I thought I looked good. I don't

know what it is but even now, when I get ready to go out and put my

makeup on, etc., it is like I can't see how fat I really am. It

isn't until I get a load of myself in a picture or video that I am

ready to shoot myself. I don't know if that happens to others but

maybe it is a coping thing...or denial. Anyway, I keep telling my

husband when I lose all my weight and get my plastic surgery, I am

going to be a Juggy on " The Man Show " . LOL He hates when I say that!

Hunter

June 18, 2001 Dr. Gagner BMI 61

As of August 10, 2001 -57 lbs BMI 52...whoo hoo!

> Its called 'Hoochie Mama'.. and it can be seen on Ricki Lake, Jerry

> Springer and shows like that, where morals are loose and clothes

are

> tight.. this, as well as the subject matter serves to prove what

> 'trailer trash' mentality is around. Id rather not be 'all that'

> thank you very much, and keep my knees together. It seems like

this

> kind of persona overcompensates for what they really feel, insecure

> and undignified. Unfortunately, the behavior is the symptom, not

the

> problem and its the wrong way to address self esteem issues. IMHO

>

[Guest guest]

Re: MO and dressing in itsy bitsy clothing

> know what it is but even now, when I get ready to go out and put my

> makeup on, etc., it is like I can't see how fat I really am. It

> isn't until I get a load of myself in a picture or video that I am

> ready to shoot myself. I don't know if that happens to others but

> maybe it is a coping thing...or denial. Anyway, I keep telling my

I think it happens to all of us. Someone on one of the weight-loss lists

I'm on said something that's stuck with me: " fat people look in the mirror

and see someone thinner; thin people look in the mirror and see someone

fatter. " That's one of the body issues I'm going to have to deal with after

I have my s urgery -- working to readjust my body image.

alyssa

[Guest guest]

Re: MO and dressing in itsy bitsy clothing

> know what it is but even now, when I get ready to go out and put my

> makeup on, etc., it is like I can't see how fat I really am. It

> isn't until I get a load of myself in a picture or video that I am

> ready to shoot myself. I don't know if that happens to others but

> maybe it is a coping thing...or denial. Anyway, I keep telling my

I think it happens to all of us. Someone on one of the weight-loss lists

I'm on said something that's stuck with me: " fat people look in the mirror

and see someone thinner; thin people look in the mirror and see someone

fatter. " That's one of the body issues I'm going to have to deal with after

I have my s urgery -- working to readjust my body image.

alyssa

[Guest guest]

And I fight being really judgmental when I see thin adult women

wearing skimpy clothes.. not shorts or summer wear.. but stuff that

evokes a thought that they were cheated out of enough material to

cover their butt, thighs or breasts. I figure they are dressing for

someone else's benefit.. and then I think about how awful that must

be to wear such stuff so one other person will think you are sexy or

the like.

in Seattle

> Okay...maybe I'm in the minority here...but I get embarressed when

I see these MO people wearing these little short dresses, really

tight clothing etc

[Guest guest]

And I fight being really judgmental when I see thin adult women

wearing skimpy clothes.. not shorts or summer wear.. but stuff that

evokes a thought that they were cheated out of enough material to

cover their butt, thighs or breasts. I figure they are dressing for

someone else's benefit.. and then I think about how awful that must

be to wear such stuff so one other person will think you are sexy or

the like.

in Seattle

> Okay...maybe I'm in the minority here...but I get embarressed when

I see these MO people wearing these little short dresses, really

tight clothing etc

[Guest guest]

Yeah, I think you are prejudice. Anytime you say anything about " MO "

people, try putting the word " black " in there instead to see how that

sounds. If it sounds bad, then don't say it. It still seems to

be " okay " to bad mouth MO people. I think everyone should do what

they want to do. If you can't handle it, too bad.

I saw a segment recently with Bill Maher where he was saying how fat

people shouldn't be at the beach because they aren't " attractive. "

Well fuck you guy, you're not so attractive yourself. He's an idiot

to boot.

Donna

>

[Guest guest]

Although I may agree with some of what 'Donna' is saying below, please know

it's a different 'Donna' than me )

Bye,

Donna

Donna C. Joostema

email: joostema@...

" Donna "

<donnabert@yah To: duodenalswitch

oo.com> cc:

Subject: Re: MO

and dressing in itsy bitsy clothing

08/23/2001

11:41 AM

Please respond

to

duodenalswitch

Yeah, I think you are prejudice. Anytime you say anything about " MO "

people, try putting the word " black " in there instead to see how that

sounds. If it sounds bad, then don't say it. It still seems to

be " okay " to bad mouth MO people. I think everyone should do what

they want to do. If you can't handle it, too bad.

I saw a segment recently with Bill Maher where he was saying how fat

people shouldn't be at the beach because they aren't " attractive. "

Well fuck you guy, you're not so attractive yourself. He's an idiot

to boot.

Donna

>

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[Guest guest]

Boy...attitude...

I thought alot about this and I dont think I'm prejudiced...I just have more

class than some. However...just because I don't like that style of dress,

doesn't mean I'm not nice and even friends with people that choose to dress that

way. I am however allowed to not like it. I think it's tasteless, whether MO or

thin...its simply not a style or message I care to send out.

I don't appreicate you suggesting I'm prejudice against blacks either...that

wasn't even the context of my original message...I think you completely read it

wrong.

Sorry if you find it offensive to dislike a style of dressing

AJ

" Donna " wrote:

>Yeah, I think you are prejudice. Anytime you say anything about " MO "

>people, try putting the word " black " in there instead to see how that

>sounds. If it sounds bad, then don't say it. It still seems to

>be " okay " to bad mouth MO people. I think everyone should do what

>they want to do. If you can't handle it, too bad.

>

>I saw a segment recently with Bill Maher where he was saying how fat

>people shouldn't be at the beach because they aren't " attractive. "

>Well fuck you guy, you're not so attractive yourself. He's an idiot

>to boot.

>

>Donna

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