MO and dressing in itsy bitsy clothing

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Ditto, Donna!

dee (Donna Lee)

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> Yeah, I think you are prejudice. Anytime you say

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> people, try putting the word " black " in there

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> sounds. If it sounds bad, then don't say it. It

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> be " okay " to bad mouth MO people. I think everyone

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> they want to do. If you can't handle it, too bad.

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> I saw a segment recently with Bill Maher where he

> was saying how fat

> people shouldn't be at the beach because they aren't

> " attractive. "

> Well fuck you guy, you're not so attractive

> yourself. He's an idiot

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In a message dated 8/23/01 3:13:05 PM, duodenalswitch writes:

<< I think it's tasteless, whether MO or thin...its simply not a style or

message I care to send out.

I don't appreicate you suggesting I'm prejudice against blacks either...that

wasn't even the context of my original message...I think you completely read

it wrong.

Sorry if you find it offensive to dislike a style of dressing >>

AJ: I don't think Donna was saying you are prejudiced against Blacks... she

just said if one put a more recognizable group who are prejudiced against in

the statement, it may seem more apparently biased. I don't think you meant

it to biased in any way but when you say 'those MO people who..' it *could*

be misinterpreted as if you had certain standards for thinner people and MO

people are too physically unattractive, etc. to wear revealing clothing, etc.

and must 'cover up'. At least, this is what I think Donna interpreted your

opinions as saying...

I think it's good you clarified that you don't like this style of dressing,

no matter who is doing it. I hope Donna responds but I certainly wouldn't

slight you for having opinions about dressing style.

all the best,

Noverr-Chin

co-moderator

lap ds with gallbladder removal

january 25, 2001

six months post-op and still feelin' fabu!

preop: 307 lbs/bmi 45

now: 224 (yahoo!)

[Guest guest]

Someone tell me, why do I bother posting here when people are SO

CLUELESS?!?!?!?

Please read my post again. You didn't understand it in the least.

In your original note you said, point blank, " Am I being prejudice?

I suppose... " Now I have an " attitude " because I agreed with you.

Explain THAT to me!

I never said you are prejudice against black people or people

who " dress different. " I said you were prejudice against MO people,

because you say they shouldn't dress a certain way because you have

(haha) more " class. "

I stated if you compartmentalize MO people the way racists do black

people, you are prejudice.

NOW, if you have anything futher to argue, email me and I'll TRY to

read it. I feel myself getting dumbing by the minute trying to

explain this to you.

Donna

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The only way someone could confused " Donna Joostema " with " Donnabert "

is if they were stupid. Wait, I see your point...

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In a message dated 8/23/01 7:11:05 PM, duodenalswitch writes:

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I think it's good you clarified that you don't like this style of dressing,

no matter who is doing it. I hope Donna responds but I certainly wouldn't

slight you for having opinions about dressing style.

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oh, man - would I EVER eat my words on this one! I should have read the list

and seen the vicious posts that ensued ---- Sorry that AJ had to experience

this. I don't think your original post was offensive, AJ and I thought this

was a slight misunderstanding that could get cleared up when you further

explained your point of view -- Guess that is nearly impossible with some

people. Anyway, just wanted to say that hopefully all this is over and

cleared up!

all the best,

lap ds with gallbladder removal

January 25, 2001

[Guest guest]

Well ... ya know .... I would like to take a shot at this one. I really

don't

know why you post to this group, either at this point, because it seems

to me that your problem is not obesity, but more that you are an ass-

hole. I don't think that WLS is going to fix that for you. Might I

suggest

you find another outlet for yourself ... maybe one where those who

read your posts are ... let's say ... masochists, instead of obese people

trying to support one another.

Your posts are rude, ignorant, and of no value here. Take it off-line

and quit wasting our time and ruining the intention of this forum for

those of us who take it seriously.

Donna .... Donna Joostema, that is ...

" Donna "

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Subject: Re: MO

and dressing in itsy bitsy clothing

08/23/2001

03:07 PM

Please respond

to

duodenalswitch

Someone tell me, why do I bother posting here when people are SO

CLUELESS?!?!?!?

Please read my post again. You didn't understand it in the least.

In your original note you said, point blank, " Am I being prejudice?

I suppose... " Now I have an " attitude " because I agreed with you.

Explain THAT to me!

I never said you are prejudice against black people or people

who " dress different. " I said you were prejudice against MO people,

because you say they shouldn't dress a certain way because you have

(haha) more " class. "

I stated if you compartmentalize MO people the way racists do black

people, you are prejudice.

NOW, if you have anything futher to argue, email me and I'll TRY to

read it. I feel myself getting dumbing by the minute trying to

explain this to you.

Donna

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I have taken this matter to private email to remind people of the list

rule against personal attacks. Please, no more public back-and-forth on

this one. Thanks.

Magruder, DS list moderator

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> Re: MO and dressing in itsy bitsy clothing

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> Someone tell me, why do I bother posting here when people are SO

> CLUELESS?!?!?!?

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> Please read my post again. You didn't understand it in the least.

> In your original note you said, point blank, " Am I being prejudice?

> I suppose... " Now I have an " attitude " because I agreed with you.

> Explain THAT to me!

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> I never said you are prejudice against black people or people

> who " dress different. " I said you were prejudice against MO people,

> because you say they shouldn't dress a certain way because you have

> (haha) more " class. "

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> I stated if you compartmentalize MO people the way racists do black

> people, you are prejudice.

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> NOW, if you have anything futher to argue, email me and I'll TRY to

> read it. I feel myself getting dumbing by the minute trying to

> explain this to you.

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> Donna

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LOL!! Why don't you tell us how you REALLY feel, Donna?? <g>

alyssa

Re: MO and dressing in itsy bitsy clothing

> I saw a segment recently with Bill Maher where he was saying how fat

> people shouldn't be at the beach because they aren't " attractive. "

> Well fuck you guy, you're not so attractive yourself. He's an idiot

> to boot.

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I find no reason to be rude to me or treat me as if I'm stupid. I've never

posted anything here that isn't nice or friendly. I thought about my original

post after I wrote it because I wondered if I am being prejudiced against other

MO people and I think its not that I'm prejudiced against MO people...geezzz I'm

a huge one...I have absolutely no room to judge the next person....but I do have

prejudice against skimpy clothing...and as I stated in all my posts...its not MO

only...its anyone. Maybe its all come out wrong.... I did not mean to offend

anyone with any of my posts nor did I feel it necessary to be rather

disrespectful.

Point dropped

AJ

" Donna " wrote:

>Someone tell me, why do I bother posting here when people are SO

>CLUELESS?!?!?!?

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>Please read my post again. You didn't understand it in the least.

>In your original note you said, point blank, " Am I being prejudice?

>I suppose... " Now I have an " attitude " because I agreed with you.

>Explain THAT to me!

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>I never said you are prejudice against black people or people

>who " dress different. " I said you were prejudice against MO people,

>because you say they shouldn't dress a certain way because you have

>(haha) more " class. "

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>I stated if you compartmentalize MO people the way racists do black

>people, you are prejudice.

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>NOW, if you have anything futher to argue, email me and I'll TRY to

>read it. I feel myself getting dumbing by the minute trying to

>explain this to you.

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>Donna

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If you think we are clueless here, Donna.. you need to stop coming in.

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