Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Since you volunteered your expertise so graciously, allow me to ask a different question. My daughter, ( complex one, 2.5) has been hospitalized many times due to depletion at the time of virus or infection. One time her CO2 was down to 9, another time 11. I understand a healthy child is typically 25. What are the lowest lows and average highs and what does this really mean. Both of these times she had urinated, taken fluid and did not appear physically to be too dehydrated, just lethargic. I fought for our peds attention and she was hospitalized and the stats above were the result upon admission. What are the signs for low CO2- rapid breathing?? What are the guidelines do you have any more info?? thanks, suzanne From: Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 3:47 PM To: Mito Subject: Re: Asher's in the hospital/ 02 question Hi, We have oxygen in our house and I'm a nurse at a hospital. I will tell you that normal sats are 95% and above. They are usually not treated until they reach below 92- 93%. Medicare guidelines usually rule . Most insurance companies follow these guidelines. In order for medicare (not medicaid, but usually is the same) to cover oxygen, sats must be 88% or below. You can ask your insurance company about their requirements. The flu shot works only for influenza, not what we commonly call the flu. What we commonly call the flu is a stomach virus. The real flu, or influenza, is a respiratory disease. They should be able to tell you if that is what Asher has. I would expect that the ED took a nasal swab to check for both RSV and influenza. Results of both are usually back in about five minutes, give or take. Diarrhea is not usually associated with the flu for which we can be vaccinated. Respiratory symptoms along with body aches seem to go with influenza. Please contact mito-owner with any problems or questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2005 Report Share Posted January 19, 2005 Since you volunteered your expertise so graciously, allow me to ask a different question. My daughter, ( complex one, 2.5) has been hospitalized many times due to depletion at the time of virus or infection. One time her CO2 was down to 9, another time 11. I understand a healthy child is typically 25. What are the lowest lows and average highs and what does this really mean. Both of these times she had urinated, taken fluid and did not appear physically to be too dehydrated, just lethargic. I fought for our peds attention and she was hospitalized and the stats above were the result upon admission. What are the signs for low CO2- rapid breathing?? What are the guidelines do you have any more info?? thanks, suzanne From: Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 3:47 PM To: Mito Subject: Re: Asher's in the hospital/ 02 question Hi, We have oxygen in our house and I'm a nurse at a hospital. I will tell you that normal sats are 95% and above. They are usually not treated until they reach below 92- 93%. Medicare guidelines usually rule . Most insurance companies follow these guidelines. In order for medicare (not medicaid, but usually is the same) to cover oxygen, sats must be 88% or below. You can ask your insurance company about their requirements. The flu shot works only for influenza, not what we commonly call the flu. What we commonly call the flu is a stomach virus. The real flu, or influenza, is a respiratory disease. They should be able to tell you if that is what Asher has. I would expect that the ED took a nasal swab to check for both RSV and influenza. Results of both are usually back in about five minutes, give or take. Diarrhea is not usually associated with the flu for which we can be vaccinated. Respiratory symptoms along with body aches seem to go with influenza. Please contact mito-owner with any problems or questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2005 Report Share Posted January 20, 2005 Carbon dioxide is a byproduct of respiration. It can drive the body's need to get oxygen. In fact, as CO2 increases, the body feels a need to get more oxygen. People with COPD, for example, need to be careful. If they increase their oxygen levels too much, their carbon dioxide levels fall along with their body's ability to sense when it needs to breathe. Each lab has different norms for CO2. In fact, our local lab says they are mearsuring CO2 when, in fact, they are measuring bicarbonate. See this link-- it is saying blood CO2 levels measure bicarb http://www.biology-online.org/dictionary.asp?Term=Carbon%20Dioxide Increased carbon dioxide means that one is acidic--can happen with lactic acidosis. My daughter's carbon dioxide is in 50s (normal is about 35 to 45). She has hypoventilation---does not breathe deeply enough. From the measurements you cite, I would suspect that you're speaking of bicarb levels and not true CO2 levels (www.shands.org/health/information/ article/003469.htm and http://www.ehendrick.org/healthy/003469.htm). I would expect that your child is in acidosis and that fluids would help this. Also, viral infections in mito can cause lactic acidosis. An increase in CO2 would cause increased respirations or dyspnea. (Dyspnea=difficulty breathing, apnea=absence of breathing, hypopnea=decreased breathing). http://www.thedoctorsdoctor.com/labtests/blood_gases.htm http://www.stillsdisease.org/other_common_labs.htm Remember, each lab has its own norms. I really, really think that you're speaking of HCO3 or bicarb levels. I'd ask what the real carbon dioxide levels are. I'd bet that your child has acidosis when ill. This should be addressed. I would think that your mito doc could help you with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 20, 2005 Report Share Posted January 20, 2005 Carbon dioxide is a byproduct of respiration. It can drive the body's need to get oxygen. In fact, as CO2 increases, the body feels a need to get more oxygen. People with COPD, for example, need to be careful. If they increase their oxygen levels too much, their carbon dioxide levels fall along with their body's ability to sense when it needs to breathe. Each lab has different norms for CO2. In fact, our local lab says they are mearsuring CO2 when, in fact, they are measuring bicarbonate. See this link-- it is saying blood CO2 levels measure bicarb http://www.biology-online.org/dictionary.asp?Term=Carbon%20Dioxide Increased carbon dioxide means that one is acidic--can happen with lactic acidosis. My daughter's carbon dioxide is in 50s (normal is about 35 to 45). She has hypoventilation---does not breathe deeply enough. From the measurements you cite, I would suspect that you're speaking of bicarb levels and not true CO2 levels (www.shands.org/health/information/ article/003469.htm and http://www.ehendrick.org/healthy/003469.htm). I would expect that your child is in acidosis and that fluids would help this. Also, viral infections in mito can cause lactic acidosis. An increase in CO2 would cause increased respirations or dyspnea. (Dyspnea=difficulty breathing, apnea=absence of breathing, hypopnea=decreased breathing). http://www.thedoctorsdoctor.com/labtests/blood_gases.htm http://www.stillsdisease.org/other_common_labs.htm Remember, each lab has its own norms. I really, really think that you're speaking of HCO3 or bicarb levels. I'd ask what the real carbon dioxide levels are. I'd bet that your child has acidosis when ill. This should be addressed. I would think that your mito doc could help you with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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