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Hi Ron,

Congratulations on your finally breaking through that plateau. I know it is hard waiting for that date and the weight just does seem to want to go down fast enough but You do have to remember that the surgery is only a tool anyway that helps us to lose weight it is still us that is doing all of the work. Choosing the right foods to eat, exercising everyday, drinking all that water and taking all of the supplements. We still do all of the work. When you do finally have the surgery you will be so much more ahead of the game because you will know in your heart how much you really want this. You are such a good person and you deserve to be health also. Don't give up on yourself. You have come too far to let yourself down. Have you given water aerobics a try? It is one of the best exercises. You don't have to feel bad getting into the water because everyone is there for the same reason to get into shape. So let me send you a Cyber Hug {{{{{ HUG }}}}}

and know that you are an important part of our little group.

Ramona

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Hi Ron,

Congratulations on your finally breaking through that plateau. I know it is hard waiting for that date and the weight just does seem to want to go down fast enough but You do have to remember that the surgery is only a tool anyway that helps us to lose weight it is still us that is doing all of the work. Choosing the right foods to eat, exercising everyday, drinking all that water and taking all of the supplements. We still do all of the work. When you do finally have the surgery you will be so much more ahead of the game because you will know in your heart how much you really want this. You are such a good person and you deserve to be health also. Don't give up on yourself. You have come too far to let yourself down. Have you given water aerobics a try? It is one of the best exercises. You don't have to feel bad getting into the water because everyone is there for the same reason to get into shape. So let me send you a Cyber Hug {{{{{ HUG }}}}}

and know that you are an important part of our little group.

Ramona

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If I'm doing the math correctly (And, I might not be!), it seems you have been

asked to lose over 20%, not the 10% required of others. I'm sure the doctor

said it's because of you beginning weight, but given your recent progress, and

the addition of exercise to your regime, don't you think you could re-address

the issue of pre-op weight loss with a surgeon? It does seem a little extreme.

Of course, if it is for the eventual SUCCESSFUL outcome of the surgery, you

must accept that the doctor is protecting both himself, and more importantly,

YOU. Avoiding complications during surgery is important--we want you around to

enjoy your life on the " other side. " But, it might be worth addressing the

issue, and see if they will agree to a 15% weight loss. That would re-energize

you, and encourage you to continue. Which, BTW, is what I pray you will find

the motivation to do--keep working it, it's working!

Regards,

Pat

Open RNY, 9/21/04

-124

Quoting BBQ Man :

> Hello all!

>

> First off, let me share a happy moment with you... I was finally able to

> break through the plateau I've been on (what seems like) forever. I just

> couldn't get below 462 and this morning, I weighed in at 458.8! I was both

> shocked and amazed... but HAPPY. :)

>

> Now for the " other " news. I really need some advice on a sensitive issue I'm

> having. I am finding myself getting more and more frustrated and even

> jealous because it seems that everyone around is getting their dates and

> surgery and I'm being left in the proverbial dust. Now, I know this sounds a

> little petty, and I want everyone to know up front that I'm very happy and

> supportive of everyone getting their date and surgery. It's just that for

> me, I've had so much weight to lose because I seem to be one of the most

> heavy people both here and in my " face to face " support group. Hence, alot

> of people that started their journey long after me, have had their surgery

> and I'm still working on losing the pre-surgery weight. For those of you who

> don't know, I was told in July of '04 I'd have to lose 100 pounds. That news

> put me off and I sort of went off the deep end and over the next year had a

> net gain of 24 pounds. So, when I finally got me head on straight about

> this, I had 124 pouds to lose. With todays weight loss, I have lost 75

> pounds so far and still have 54 pounds to go before I get a date. I've lost

> the 75 since 7-24-05 and now it's getting somewhat more difficult. However,

> I've been getting a lot more exercise (mostly walking) and even tried getting

> in even more water, so with any luck I'll continue to lose. But, I do get a

> little discouraged sometimes. I thought a while about whether I should even

> bring up this subject here, but decided it would be okay.

>

> So what kind of suggestions do you all have to help me get over this

> frustration of being the only pre-op in the bunch (so to speak... I know I'm

> not in THIS group, but I am in the other one...).

>

> Help me please...

>

> Ron

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If I'm doing the math correctly (And, I might not be!), it seems you have been

asked to lose over 20%, not the 10% required of others. I'm sure the doctor

said it's because of you beginning weight, but given your recent progress, and

the addition of exercise to your regime, don't you think you could re-address

the issue of pre-op weight loss with a surgeon? It does seem a little extreme.

Of course, if it is for the eventual SUCCESSFUL outcome of the surgery, you

must accept that the doctor is protecting both himself, and more importantly,

YOU. Avoiding complications during surgery is important--we want you around to

enjoy your life on the " other side. " But, it might be worth addressing the

issue, and see if they will agree to a 15% weight loss. That would re-energize

you, and encourage you to continue. Which, BTW, is what I pray you will find

the motivation to do--keep working it, it's working!

Regards,

Pat

Open RNY, 9/21/04

-124

Quoting BBQ Man :

> Hello all!

>

> First off, let me share a happy moment with you... I was finally able to

> break through the plateau I've been on (what seems like) forever. I just

> couldn't get below 462 and this morning, I weighed in at 458.8! I was both

> shocked and amazed... but HAPPY. :)

>

> Now for the " other " news. I really need some advice on a sensitive issue I'm

> having. I am finding myself getting more and more frustrated and even

> jealous because it seems that everyone around is getting their dates and

> surgery and I'm being left in the proverbial dust. Now, I know this sounds a

> little petty, and I want everyone to know up front that I'm very happy and

> supportive of everyone getting their date and surgery. It's just that for

> me, I've had so much weight to lose because I seem to be one of the most

> heavy people both here and in my " face to face " support group. Hence, alot

> of people that started their journey long after me, have had their surgery

> and I'm still working on losing the pre-surgery weight. For those of you who

> don't know, I was told in July of '04 I'd have to lose 100 pounds. That news

> put me off and I sort of went off the deep end and over the next year had a

> net gain of 24 pounds. So, when I finally got me head on straight about

> this, I had 124 pouds to lose. With todays weight loss, I have lost 75

> pounds so far and still have 54 pounds to go before I get a date. I've lost

> the 75 since 7-24-05 and now it's getting somewhat more difficult. However,

> I've been getting a lot more exercise (mostly walking) and even tried getting

> in even more water, so with any luck I'll continue to lose. But, I do get a

> little discouraged sometimes. I thought a while about whether I should even

> bring up this subject here, but decided it would be okay.

>

> So what kind of suggestions do you all have to help me get over this

> frustration of being the only pre-op in the bunch (so to speak... I know I'm

> not in THIS group, but I am in the other one...).

>

> Help me please...

>

> Ron

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Ron, first and foremost, CONGRATS!

Its not an easy thing that you are having to do.

Though some of use might not have posted it, I am

pretty sure that we have felt the same way as you are

feeling. That is about feel left out and others

getting there dates.

What I have told others is that this is not a race or

a contest and I am sure you are away of this but at

the same time, I know that you want your magic day to

be here as well. So, with that being said, its

understandable how you feel and NO one here is going

to take offense to that, rest assure.

The only suggestion I can give you is to just continue

what you are doing because as you can see, it does

work. In life, we all hit potholes along the way but

we just keep keeping on.

Regardless of what you are feeling and faced with,

just know that you are on your way and your day is

going to come. Just don't give up. I know you do

this and just remember that you had more to lose than

everyone else so that makes you simply SPECIAL because

the story you will have to share is going to be

amazing and have a tremendous impact on the next

person that will come and be in your exactly

siutation. You will be able to take this siutation

and encourage someone else along the way.

I am sending happy thoughts and well wishes your way

and a virtual hug.

Be encouraged and just know that you are not alone.

Pam Marsh

--- BBQ Man wrote:

> Hello all!

>

> First off, let me share a happy moment with you...

> I was finally able to break through the plateau I've

> been on (what seems like) forever. I just couldn't

> get below 462 and this morning, I weighed in at

> 458.8! I was both shocked and amazed... but HAPPY.

> :)

>

> Now for the " other " news. I really need some advice

> on a sensitive issue I'm having. I am finding

> myself getting more and more frustrated and even

> jealous because it seems that everyone around is

> getting their dates and surgery and I'm being left

> in the proverbial dust. Now, I know this sounds a

> little petty, and I want everyone to know up front

> that I'm very happy and supportive of everyone

> getting their date and surgery. It's just that for

> me, I've had so much weight to lose because I seem

> to be one of the most heavy people both here and in

> my " face to face " support group. Hence, alot of

> people that started their journey long after me,

> have had their surgery and I'm still working on

> losing the pre-surgery weight. For those of you who

> don't know, I was told in July of '04 I'd have to

> lose 100 pounds. That news put me off and I sort of

> went off the deep end and over the next year had a

> net gain of 24 pounds. So, when I finally got me

> head on straight about this, I had 124 pouds to

> lose. With todays weight loss, I have lost 75

> pounds so far and still have 54 pounds to go before

> I get a date. I've lost the 75 since 7-24-05 and

> now it's getting somewhat more difficult. However,

> I've been getting a lot more exercise (mostly

> walking) and even tried getting in even more water,

> so with any luck I'll continue to lose. But, I do

> get a little discouraged sometimes. I thought a

> while about whether I should even bring up this

> subject here, but decided it would be okay.

>

> So what kind of suggestions do you all have to help

> me get over this frustration of being the only

> pre-op in the bunch (so to speak... I know I'm not

> in THIS group, but I am in the other one...).

>

> Help me please...

>

> Ron

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Ron, first and foremost, CONGRATS!

Its not an easy thing that you are having to do.

Though some of use might not have posted it, I am

pretty sure that we have felt the same way as you are

feeling. That is about feel left out and others

getting there dates.

What I have told others is that this is not a race or

a contest and I am sure you are away of this but at

the same time, I know that you want your magic day to

be here as well. So, with that being said, its

understandable how you feel and NO one here is going

to take offense to that, rest assure.

The only suggestion I can give you is to just continue

what you are doing because as you can see, it does

work. In life, we all hit potholes along the way but

we just keep keeping on.

Regardless of what you are feeling and faced with,

just know that you are on your way and your day is

going to come. Just don't give up. I know you do

this and just remember that you had more to lose than

everyone else so that makes you simply SPECIAL because

the story you will have to share is going to be

amazing and have a tremendous impact on the next

person that will come and be in your exactly

siutation. You will be able to take this siutation

and encourage someone else along the way.

I am sending happy thoughts and well wishes your way

and a virtual hug.

Be encouraged and just know that you are not alone.

Pam Marsh

--- BBQ Man wrote:

> Hello all!

>

> First off, let me share a happy moment with you...

> I was finally able to break through the plateau I've

> been on (what seems like) forever. I just couldn't

> get below 462 and this morning, I weighed in at

> 458.8! I was both shocked and amazed... but HAPPY.

> :)

>

> Now for the " other " news. I really need some advice

> on a sensitive issue I'm having. I am finding

> myself getting more and more frustrated and even

> jealous because it seems that everyone around is

> getting their dates and surgery and I'm being left

> in the proverbial dust. Now, I know this sounds a

> little petty, and I want everyone to know up front

> that I'm very happy and supportive of everyone

> getting their date and surgery. It's just that for

> me, I've had so much weight to lose because I seem

> to be one of the most heavy people both here and in

> my " face to face " support group. Hence, alot of

> people that started their journey long after me,

> have had their surgery and I'm still working on

> losing the pre-surgery weight. For those of you who

> don't know, I was told in July of '04 I'd have to

> lose 100 pounds. That news put me off and I sort of

> went off the deep end and over the next year had a

> net gain of 24 pounds. So, when I finally got me

> head on straight about this, I had 124 pouds to

> lose. With todays weight loss, I have lost 75

> pounds so far and still have 54 pounds to go before

> I get a date. I've lost the 75 since 7-24-05 and

> now it's getting somewhat more difficult. However,

> I've been getting a lot more exercise (mostly

> walking) and even tried getting in even more water,

> so with any luck I'll continue to lose. But, I do

> get a little discouraged sometimes. I thought a

> while about whether I should even bring up this

> subject here, but decided it would be okay.

>

> So what kind of suggestions do you all have to help

> me get over this frustration of being the only

> pre-op in the bunch (so to speak... I know I'm not

> in THIS group, but I am in the other one...).

>

> Help me please...

>

> Ron

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I agree Ron, I think you should make a consult appt with your doctor.

Show him your food journal, your exercise journal, and your progress

so far. Talk to him about your frustration of being asked to lose

more than everyone else. I think you deserve a reconsideration.

Huggles

>

> If I'm doing the math correctly (And, I might not be!), it seems

you have been

> asked to lose over 20%, not the 10% required of others. I'm sure

the doctor

> said it's because of you beginning weight, but given your recent

progress, and

> the addition of exercise to your regime, don't you think you could

re-address

> the issue of pre-op weight loss with a surgeon? It does seem a

little extreme.

> Of course, if it is for the eventual SUCCESSFUL outcome of the

surgery, you

> must accept that the doctor is protecting both himself, and more

importantly,

> YOU. Avoiding complications during surgery is important--we want

you around to

> enjoy your life on the " other side. " But, it might be worth

addressing the

> issue, and see if they will agree to a 15% weight loss. That would

re-energize

> you, and encourage you to continue. Which, BTW, is what I pray you

will find

> the motivation to do--keep working it, it's working!

>

> Regards,

>

> Pat

> Open RNY, 9/21/04

> -124

>

>

> Quoting BBQ Man <bbq_man@c...>:

>

> > Hello all!

> >

> > First off, let me share a happy moment with you... I was finally

able to

> > break through the plateau I've been on (what seems like)

forever. I just

> > couldn't get below 462 and this morning, I weighed in at 458.8!

I was both

> > shocked and amazed... but HAPPY. :)

> >

> > Now for the " other " news. I really need some advice on a

sensitive issue I'm

> > having. I am finding myself getting more and more frustrated and

even

> > jealous because it seems that everyone around is getting their

dates and

> > surgery and I'm being left in the proverbial dust. Now, I know

this sounds a

> > little petty, and I want everyone to know up front that I'm very

happy and

> > supportive of everyone getting their date and surgery. It's just

that for

> > me, I've had so much weight to lose because I seem to be one of

the most

> > heavy people both here and in my " face to face " support group.

Hence, alot

> > of people that started their journey long after me, have had

their surgery

> > and I'm still working on losing the pre-surgery weight. For

those of you who

> > don't know, I was told in July of '04 I'd have to lose 100

pounds. That news

> > put me off and I sort of went off the deep end and over the next

year had a

> > net gain of 24 pounds. So, when I finally got me head on

straight about

> > this, I had 124 pouds to lose. With todays weight loss, I have

lost 75

> > pounds so far and still have 54 pounds to go before I get a

date. I've lost

> > the 75 since 7-24-05 and now it's getting somewhat more

difficult. However,

> > I've been getting a lot more exercise (mostly walking) and even

tried getting

> > in even more water, so with any luck I'll continue to lose. But,

I do get a

> > little discouraged sometimes. I thought a while about whether I

should even

> > bring up this subject here, but decided it would be okay.

> >

> > So what kind of suggestions do you all have to help me get over

this

> > frustration of being the only pre-op in the bunch (so to

speak... I know I'm

> > not in THIS group, but I am in the other one...).

> >

> > Help me please...

> >

> > Ron

>

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I agree Ron, I think you should make a consult appt with your doctor.

Show him your food journal, your exercise journal, and your progress

so far. Talk to him about your frustration of being asked to lose

more than everyone else. I think you deserve a reconsideration.

Huggles

>

> If I'm doing the math correctly (And, I might not be!), it seems

you have been

> asked to lose over 20%, not the 10% required of others. I'm sure

the doctor

> said it's because of you beginning weight, but given your recent

progress, and

> the addition of exercise to your regime, don't you think you could

re-address

> the issue of pre-op weight loss with a surgeon? It does seem a

little extreme.

> Of course, if it is for the eventual SUCCESSFUL outcome of the

surgery, you

> must accept that the doctor is protecting both himself, and more

importantly,

> YOU. Avoiding complications during surgery is important--we want

you around to

> enjoy your life on the " other side. " But, it might be worth

addressing the

> issue, and see if they will agree to a 15% weight loss. That would

re-energize

> you, and encourage you to continue. Which, BTW, is what I pray you

will find

> the motivation to do--keep working it, it's working!

>

> Regards,

>

> Pat

> Open RNY, 9/21/04

> -124

>

>

> Quoting BBQ Man <bbq_man@c...>:

>

> > Hello all!

> >

> > First off, let me share a happy moment with you... I was finally

able to

> > break through the plateau I've been on (what seems like)

forever. I just

> > couldn't get below 462 and this morning, I weighed in at 458.8!

I was both

> > shocked and amazed... but HAPPY. :)

> >

> > Now for the " other " news. I really need some advice on a

sensitive issue I'm

> > having. I am finding myself getting more and more frustrated and

even

> > jealous because it seems that everyone around is getting their

dates and

> > surgery and I'm being left in the proverbial dust. Now, I know

this sounds a

> > little petty, and I want everyone to know up front that I'm very

happy and

> > supportive of everyone getting their date and surgery. It's just

that for

> > me, I've had so much weight to lose because I seem to be one of

the most

> > heavy people both here and in my " face to face " support group.

Hence, alot

> > of people that started their journey long after me, have had

their surgery

> > and I'm still working on losing the pre-surgery weight. For

those of you who

> > don't know, I was told in July of '04 I'd have to lose 100

pounds. That news

> > put me off and I sort of went off the deep end and over the next

year had a

> > net gain of 24 pounds. So, when I finally got me head on

straight about

> > this, I had 124 pouds to lose. With todays weight loss, I have

lost 75

> > pounds so far and still have 54 pounds to go before I get a

date. I've lost

> > the 75 since 7-24-05 and now it's getting somewhat more

difficult. However,

> > I've been getting a lot more exercise (mostly walking) and even

tried getting

> > in even more water, so with any luck I'll continue to lose. But,

I do get a

> > little discouraged sometimes. I thought a while about whether I

should even

> > bring up this subject here, but decided it would be okay.

> >

> > So what kind of suggestions do you all have to help me get over

this

> > frustration of being the only pre-op in the bunch (so to

speak... I know I'm

> > not in THIS group, but I am in the other one...).

> >

> > Help me please...

> >

> > Ron

>

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Yes Pat, you are absolutely correct with your math. My orientation weight was 505, I went on my year long "sabatical" and had my weight gain to 529. When I "came to" and get back with the program and started losing weight again, I asked if the surgeon might reconsider my goal weight, based on my weight loss to that point. , my case manager, told me that the original goal weight would stand and the Dr. wouldn't change it. So, I am resigned to the fact that I must lose to 405 before I'll be givien a date. It's just been a rough road, especially when most people I have met along the way have lost their percentage and had their surgery... When most people have only 20-40 pounds to lose and I have 100+ to lose, it can be very discouraging. Since July, my resolve on this issue has faded some, but has come nowhere near disappearing. I WILL have this tool one day, and I will not stop until I am at a comfortable weight where I can enjoy life as a normal weighted man. My main concern is trying to get past this whole feeling of being left behind...

Ron

Re: A couple things...

If I'm doing the math correctly (And, I might not be!), it seems you have beenasked to lose over 20%, not the 10% required of others. I'm sure the doctorsaid it's because of you beginning weight, but given your recent progress, andthe addition of exercise to your regime, don't you think you could re-addressthe issue of pre-op weight loss with a surgeon? It does seem a little extreme.Of course, if it is for the eventual SUCCESSFUL outcome of the surgery, youmust accept that the doctor is protecting both himself, and more importantly,YOU. Avoiding complications during surgery is important--we want you around toenjoy your life on the "other side." But, it might be worth addressing theissue, and see if they will agree to a 15% weight loss. That would re-energizeyou, and encourage you to continue. Which, BTW, is what I pray you will findthe motivation to do--keep working it, it's working!Regards,PatOpen RNY, 9/21/04-124Quoting BBQ Man :> Hello all!>> First off, let me share a happy moment with you... I was finally able to> break through the plateau I've been on (what seems like) forever. I just> couldn't get below 462 and this morning, I weighed in at 458.8! I was both> shocked and amazed... but HAPPY. :)>> Now for the "other" news. I really need some advice on a sensitive issue I'm> having. I am finding myself getting more and more frustrated and even> jealous because it seems that everyone around is getting their dates and> surgery and I'm being left in the proverbial dust. Now, I know this sounds a> little petty, and I want everyone to know up front that I'm very happy and> supportive of everyone getting their date and surgery. It's just that for> me, I've had so much weight to lose because I seem to be one of the most> heavy people both here and in my "face to face" support group. Hence, alot> of people that started their journey long after me, have had their surgery> and I'm still working on losing the pre-surgery weight. For those of you who> don't know, I was told in July of '04 I'd have to lose 100 pounds. That news> put me off and I sort of went off the deep end and over the next year had a> net gain of 24 pounds. So, when I finally got me head on straight about> this, I had 124 pouds to lose. With todays weight loss, I have lost 75> pounds so far and still have 54 pounds to go before I get a date. I've lost> the 75 since 7-24-05 and now it's getting somewhat more difficult. However,> I've been getting a lot more exercise (mostly walking) and even tried getting> in even more water, so with any luck I'll continue to lose. But, I do get a> little discouraged sometimes. I thought a while about whether I should even> bring up this subject here, but decided it would be okay.>> So what kind of suggestions do you all have to help me get over this> frustration of being the only pre-op in the bunch (so to speak... I know I'm> not in THIS group, but I am in the other one...).>> Help me please...>> Ron

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Yes Pat, you are absolutely correct with your math. My orientation weight was 505, I went on my year long "sabatical" and had my weight gain to 529. When I "came to" and get back with the program and started losing weight again, I asked if the surgeon might reconsider my goal weight, based on my weight loss to that point. , my case manager, told me that the original goal weight would stand and the Dr. wouldn't change it. So, I am resigned to the fact that I must lose to 405 before I'll be givien a date. It's just been a rough road, especially when most people I have met along the way have lost their percentage and had their surgery... When most people have only 20-40 pounds to lose and I have 100+ to lose, it can be very discouraging. Since July, my resolve on this issue has faded some, but has come nowhere near disappearing. I WILL have this tool one day, and I will not stop until I am at a comfortable weight where I can enjoy life as a normal weighted man. My main concern is trying to get past this whole feeling of being left behind...

Ron

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If I'm doing the math correctly (And, I might not be!), it seems you have beenasked to lose over 20%, not the 10% required of others. I'm sure the doctorsaid it's because of you beginning weight, but given your recent progress, andthe addition of exercise to your regime, don't you think you could re-addressthe issue of pre-op weight loss with a surgeon? It does seem a little extreme.Of course, if it is for the eventual SUCCESSFUL outcome of the surgery, youmust accept that the doctor is protecting both himself, and more importantly,YOU. Avoiding complications during surgery is important--we want you around toenjoy your life on the "other side." But, it might be worth addressing theissue, and see if they will agree to a 15% weight loss. That would re-energizeyou, and encourage you to continue. Which, BTW, is what I pray you will findthe motivation to do--keep working it, it's working!Regards,PatOpen RNY, 9/21/04-124Quoting BBQ Man :> Hello all!>> First off, let me share a happy moment with you... I was finally able to> break through the plateau I've been on (what seems like) forever. I just> couldn't get below 462 and this morning, I weighed in at 458.8! I was both> shocked and amazed... but HAPPY. :)>> Now for the "other" news. I really need some advice on a sensitive issue I'm> having. I am finding myself getting more and more frustrated and even> jealous because it seems that everyone around is getting their dates and> surgery and I'm being left in the proverbial dust. Now, I know this sounds a> little petty, and I want everyone to know up front that I'm very happy and> supportive of everyone getting their date and surgery. It's just that for> me, I've had so much weight to lose because I seem to be one of the most> heavy people both here and in my "face to face" support group. Hence, alot> of people that started their journey long after me, have had their surgery> and I'm still working on losing the pre-surgery weight. For those of you who> don't know, I was told in July of '04 I'd have to lose 100 pounds. That news> put me off and I sort of went off the deep end and over the next year had a> net gain of 24 pounds. So, when I finally got me head on straight about> this, I had 124 pouds to lose. With todays weight loss, I have lost 75> pounds so far and still have 54 pounds to go before I get a date. I've lost> the 75 since 7-24-05 and now it's getting somewhat more difficult. However,> I've been getting a lot more exercise (mostly walking) and even tried getting> in even more water, so with any luck I'll continue to lose. But, I do get a> little discouraged sometimes. I thought a while about whether I should even> bring up this subject here, but decided it would be okay.>> So what kind of suggestions do you all have to help me get over this> frustration of being the only pre-op in the bunch (so to speak... I know I'm> not in THIS group, but I am in the other one...).>> Help me please...>> Ron

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Thanks Pam. As difficult as this road has been so far, I have no intentions of getting this far and giving up. I will keep trudging along and get to my goal (and beyond) whenever God has that scheduled for me. I don't wallow in some pool of self pity over this subject, but I felt it was important for me to get it out there and see if others have felt this and how you have dealt with it. So thanks for the encouragement and motivation. When my big day comes the world will find out because it'll be written on billboards, shouted from the rooftops, and maybe even be written in the sky from a plane! :)

Ron

Re: A couple things...

Ron, first and foremost, CONGRATS!Its not an easy thing that you are having to do. Though some of use might not have posted it, I ampretty sure that we have felt the same way as you arefeeling. That is about feel left out and othersgetting there dates.What I have told others is that this is not a race ora contest and I am sure you are away of this but atthe same time, I know that you want your magic day tobe here as well. So, with that being said, itsunderstandable how you feel and NO one here is goingto take offense to that, rest assure.The only suggestion I can give you is to just continuewhat you are doing because as you can see, it doeswork. In life, we all hit potholes along the way butwe just keep keeping on.Regardless of what you are feeling and faced with,just know that you are on your way and your day isgoing to come. Just don't give up. I know you dothis and just remember that you had more to lose thaneveryone else so that makes you simply SPECIAL becausethe story you will have to share is going to beamazing and have a tremendous impact on the nextperson that will come and be in your exactlysiutation. You will be able to take this siutationand encourage someone else along the way.I am sending happy thoughts and well wishes your wayand a virtual hug.Be encouraged and just know that you are not alone.Pam Marsh--- BBQ Man wrote:> Hello all!> > First off, let me share a happy moment with you... > I was finally able to break through the plateau I've> been on (what seems like) forever. I just couldn't> get below 462 and this morning, I weighed in at> 458.8! I was both shocked and amazed... but HAPPY.> :)> > Now for the "other" news. I really need some advice> on a sensitive issue I'm having. I am finding> myself getting more and more frustrated and even> jealous because it seems that everyone around is> getting their dates and surgery and I'm being left> in the proverbial dust. Now, I know this sounds a> little petty, and I want everyone to know up front> that I'm very happy and supportive of everyone> getting their date and surgery. It's just that for> me, I've had so much weight to lose because I seem> to be one of the most heavy people both here and in> my "face to face" support group. Hence, alot of> people that started their journey long after me,> have had their surgery and I'm still working on> losing the pre-surgery weight. For those of you who> don't know, I was told in July of '04 I'd have to> lose 100 pounds. That news put me off and I sort of> went off the deep end and over the next year had a> net gain of 24 pounds. So, when I finally got me> head on straight about this, I had 124 pouds to> lose. With todays weight loss, I have lost 75> pounds so far and still have 54 pounds to go before> I get a date. I've lost the 75 since 7-24-05 and> now it's getting somewhat more difficult. However,> I've been getting a lot more exercise (mostly> walking) and even tried getting in even more water,> so with any luck I'll continue to lose. But, I do> get a little discouraged sometimes. I thought a> while about whether I should even bring up this> subject here, but decided it would be okay.> > So what kind of suggestions do you all have to help> me get over this frustration of being the only> pre-op in the bunch (so to speak... I know I'm not> in THIS group, but I am in the other one...).> > Help me please...> > Ron__________________________________________________

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Thanks Pam. As difficult as this road has been so far, I have no intentions of getting this far and giving up. I will keep trudging along and get to my goal (and beyond) whenever God has that scheduled for me. I don't wallow in some pool of self pity over this subject, but I felt it was important for me to get it out there and see if others have felt this and how you have dealt with it. So thanks for the encouragement and motivation. When my big day comes the world will find out because it'll be written on billboards, shouted from the rooftops, and maybe even be written in the sky from a plane! :)

Ron

Re: A couple things...

Ron, first and foremost, CONGRATS!Its not an easy thing that you are having to do. Though some of use might not have posted it, I ampretty sure that we have felt the same way as you arefeeling. That is about feel left out and othersgetting there dates.What I have told others is that this is not a race ora contest and I am sure you are away of this but atthe same time, I know that you want your magic day tobe here as well. So, with that being said, itsunderstandable how you feel and NO one here is goingto take offense to that, rest assure.The only suggestion I can give you is to just continuewhat you are doing because as you can see, it doeswork. In life, we all hit potholes along the way butwe just keep keeping on.Regardless of what you are feeling and faced with,just know that you are on your way and your day isgoing to come. Just don't give up. I know you dothis and just remember that you had more to lose thaneveryone else so that makes you simply SPECIAL becausethe story you will have to share is going to beamazing and have a tremendous impact on the nextperson that will come and be in your exactlysiutation. You will be able to take this siutationand encourage someone else along the way.I am sending happy thoughts and well wishes your wayand a virtual hug.Be encouraged and just know that you are not alone.Pam Marsh--- BBQ Man wrote:> Hello all!> > First off, let me share a happy moment with you... > I was finally able to break through the plateau I've> been on (what seems like) forever. I just couldn't> get below 462 and this morning, I weighed in at> 458.8! I was both shocked and amazed... but HAPPY.> :)> > Now for the "other" news. I really need some advice> on a sensitive issue I'm having. I am finding> myself getting more and more frustrated and even> jealous because it seems that everyone around is> getting their dates and surgery and I'm being left> in the proverbial dust. Now, I know this sounds a> little petty, and I want everyone to know up front> that I'm very happy and supportive of everyone> getting their date and surgery. It's just that for> me, I've had so much weight to lose because I seem> to be one of the most heavy people both here and in> my "face to face" support group. Hence, alot of> people that started their journey long after me,> have had their surgery and I'm still working on> losing the pre-surgery weight. For those of you who> don't know, I was told in July of '04 I'd have to> lose 100 pounds. That news put me off and I sort of> went off the deep end and over the next year had a> net gain of 24 pounds. So, when I finally got me> head on straight about this, I had 124 pouds to> lose. With todays weight loss, I have lost 75> pounds so far and still have 54 pounds to go before> I get a date. I've lost the 75 since 7-24-05 and> now it's getting somewhat more difficult. However,> I've been getting a lot more exercise (mostly> walking) and even tried getting in even more water,> so with any luck I'll continue to lose. But, I do> get a little discouraged sometimes. I thought a> while about whether I should even bring up this> subject here, but decided it would be okay.> > So what kind of suggestions do you all have to help> me get over this frustration of being the only> pre-op in the bunch (so to speak... I know I'm not> in THIS group, but I am in the other one...).> > Help me please...> > Ron__________________________________________________

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Ron:

You have been such a great cheerleader here. You know, one of the

hardest things for us to do is to be our own cheerleader.

This is the way I talked myself into being more patient. (I know the

wait is seemingly unending). I would say to myself, " You have two

options: 1. stay on course and know it will happen or 2. betray

yourself AGAIN and end up right where you were--unhappy. " Option 1

will get you where you want to go. Option 2 is a self-defeating,

self-fulfilling road to no where.

Ron, this is going to work for you. You need to keep telling

yourself that it will. For me, gastric bypass was the last option

because nothing else worked.

But this last option, as you know, is NOT easy. It requires us to do

our own " mental bypass surgery " to change deep-held habits,

assumptions and ways of operating in the world. This change will

require so much effort, but in the end, aren't you worth it? The

answer is yes. You have to believe that!

Just think, every pound lost is one more pound to goal. Rome wasn't

built in a day, and neither were you. Take a deep breath and realize

how far you've come. We're here to cheer you all the way.

You will make it, but it requires one thing from you: not

perfection, but persistence. Believe that you deserve this. Act as

if you deserve this. Tell yourself you deserve this. The belief

will guide your actions and before you know it, you'll have your

surgery date.

Don't give up on you, Ron! And look, you broke your plateau and

you're on your way again!

Keep us in the know about what's going on with you so that we can

share your joy and cheer you on to victory.

I'm in your corner!

Francisco

P.S. This kind of post is EXACTLY why our group exists! Don't ever

fear posting when you're not feeling great!

>

> Hello all!

>

> First off, let me share a happy moment with you... I was finally

able to break through the plateau I've been on (what seems like)

forever. I just couldn't get below 462 and this morning, I weighed

in at 458.8! I was both shocked and amazed... but HAPPY. :)

>

> Now for the " other " news. I really need some advice on a sensitive

issue I'm having. I am finding myself getting more and more

frustrated and even jealous because it seems that everyone around is

getting their dates and surgery and I'm being left in the proverbial

dust. Now, I know this sounds a little petty, and I want everyone to

know up front that I'm very happy and supportive of everyone getting

their date and surgery. It's just that for me, I've had so much

weight to lose because I seem to be one of the most heavy people both

here and in my " face to face " support group. Hence, alot of people

that started their journey long after me, have had their surgery and

I'm still working on losing the pre-surgery weight. For those of you

who don't know, I was told in July of '04 I'd have to lose 100

pounds. That news put me off and I sort of went off the deep end and

over the next year had a net gain of 24 pounds. So, when I finally

got me head on straight about this, I had 124 pouds to lose. With

todays weight loss, I have lost 75 pounds so far and still have 54

pounds to go before I get a date. I've lost the 75 since 7-24-05 and

now it's getting somewhat more difficult. However, I've been getting

a lot more exercise (mostly walking) and even tried getting in even

more water, so with any luck I'll continue to lose. But, I do get a

little discouraged sometimes. I thought a while about whether I

should even bring up this subject here, but decided it would be okay.

>

> So what kind of suggestions do you all have to help me get over

this frustration of being the only pre-op in the bunch (so to

speak... I know I'm not in THIS group, but I am in the other one...).

>

> Help me please...

>

> Ron

>

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Ron:

You have been such a great cheerleader here. You know, one of the

hardest things for us to do is to be our own cheerleader.

This is the way I talked myself into being more patient. (I know the

wait is seemingly unending). I would say to myself, " You have two

options: 1. stay on course and know it will happen or 2. betray

yourself AGAIN and end up right where you were--unhappy. " Option 1

will get you where you want to go. Option 2 is a self-defeating,

self-fulfilling road to no where.

Ron, this is going to work for you. You need to keep telling

yourself that it will. For me, gastric bypass was the last option

because nothing else worked.

But this last option, as you know, is NOT easy. It requires us to do

our own " mental bypass surgery " to change deep-held habits,

assumptions and ways of operating in the world. This change will

require so much effort, but in the end, aren't you worth it? The

answer is yes. You have to believe that!

Just think, every pound lost is one more pound to goal. Rome wasn't

built in a day, and neither were you. Take a deep breath and realize

how far you've come. We're here to cheer you all the way.

You will make it, but it requires one thing from you: not

perfection, but persistence. Believe that you deserve this. Act as

if you deserve this. Tell yourself you deserve this. The belief

will guide your actions and before you know it, you'll have your

surgery date.

Don't give up on you, Ron! And look, you broke your plateau and

you're on your way again!

Keep us in the know about what's going on with you so that we can

share your joy and cheer you on to victory.

I'm in your corner!

Francisco

P.S. This kind of post is EXACTLY why our group exists! Don't ever

fear posting when you're not feeling great!

>

> Hello all!

>

> First off, let me share a happy moment with you... I was finally

able to break through the plateau I've been on (what seems like)

forever. I just couldn't get below 462 and this morning, I weighed

in at 458.8! I was both shocked and amazed... but HAPPY. :)

>

> Now for the " other " news. I really need some advice on a sensitive

issue I'm having. I am finding myself getting more and more

frustrated and even jealous because it seems that everyone around is

getting their dates and surgery and I'm being left in the proverbial

dust. Now, I know this sounds a little petty, and I want everyone to

know up front that I'm very happy and supportive of everyone getting

their date and surgery. It's just that for me, I've had so much

weight to lose because I seem to be one of the most heavy people both

here and in my " face to face " support group. Hence, alot of people

that started their journey long after me, have had their surgery and

I'm still working on losing the pre-surgery weight. For those of you

who don't know, I was told in July of '04 I'd have to lose 100

pounds. That news put me off and I sort of went off the deep end and

over the next year had a net gain of 24 pounds. So, when I finally

got me head on straight about this, I had 124 pouds to lose. With

todays weight loss, I have lost 75 pounds so far and still have 54

pounds to go before I get a date. I've lost the 75 since 7-24-05 and

now it's getting somewhat more difficult. However, I've been getting

a lot more exercise (mostly walking) and even tried getting in even

more water, so with any luck I'll continue to lose. But, I do get a

little discouraged sometimes. I thought a while about whether I

should even bring up this subject here, but decided it would be okay.

>

> So what kind of suggestions do you all have to help me get over

this frustration of being the only pre-op in the bunch (so to

speak... I know I'm not in THIS group, but I am in the other one...).

>

> Help me please...

>

> Ron

>

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Maybe I'll check into it again and see if there's a chance. Thanks .

Ron

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I agree Ron, I think you should make a consult appt with your doctor. Show him your food journal, your exercise journal, and your progress so far. Talk to him about your frustration of being asked to lose more than everyone else. I think you deserve a reconsideration.Huggles>> If I'm doing the math correctly (And, I might not be!), it seems you have been> asked to lose over 20%, not the 10% required of others. I'm sure the doctor> said it's because of you beginning weight, but given your recent progress, and> the addition of exercise to your regime, don't you think you could re-address> the issue of pre-op weight loss with a surgeon? It does seem a little extreme.> Of course, if it is for the eventual SUCCESSFUL outcome of the surgery, you> must accept that the doctor is protecting both himself, and more importantly,> YOU. Avoiding complications during surgery is important--we want you around to> enjoy your life on the "other side." But, it might be worth addressing the> issue, and see if they will agree to a 15% weight loss. That would re-energize> you, and encourage you to continue. Which, BTW, is what I pray you will find> the motivation to do--keep working it, it's working!> > Regards,> > Pat> Open RNY, 9/21/04> -124> > > Quoting BBQ Man <bbq_man@c...>:> > > Hello all!> >> > First off, let me share a happy moment with you... I was finally able to> > break through the plateau I've been on (what seems like) forever. I just> > couldn't get below 462 and this morning, I weighed in at 458.8! I was both> > shocked and amazed... but HAPPY. :)> >> > Now for the "other" news. I really need some advice on a sensitive issue I'm> > having. I am finding myself getting more and more frustrated and even> > jealous because it seems that everyone around is getting their dates and> > surgery and I'm being left in the proverbial dust. Now, I know this sounds a> > little petty, and I want everyone to know up front that I'm very happy and> > supportive of everyone getting their date and surgery. It's just that for> > me, I've had so much weight to lose because I seem to be one of the most> > heavy people both here and in my "face to face" support group. Hence, alot> > of people that started their journey long after me, have had their surgery> > and I'm still working on losing the pre-surgery weight. For those of you who> > don't know, I was told in July of '04 I'd have to lose 100 pounds. That news> > put me off and I sort of went off the deep end and over the next year had a> > net gain of 24 pounds. So, when I finally got me head on straight about> > this, I had 124 pouds to lose. With todays weight loss, I have lost 75> > pounds so far and still have 54 pounds to go before I get a date. I've lost> > the 75 since 7-24-05 and now it's getting somewhat more difficult. However,> > I've been getting a lot more exercise (mostly walking) and even tried getting> > in even more water, so with any luck I'll continue to lose. But, I do get a> > little discouraged sometimes. I thought a while about whether I should even> > bring up this subject here, but decided it would be okay.> >> > So what kind of suggestions do you all have to help me get over this> > frustration of being the only pre-op in the bunch (so to speak... I know I'm> > not in THIS group, but I am in the other one...).> >> > Help me please...> >> > Ron>

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Maybe I'll check into it again and see if there's a chance. Thanks .

Ron

Re: A couple things...

I agree Ron, I think you should make a consult appt with your doctor. Show him your food journal, your exercise journal, and your progress so far. Talk to him about your frustration of being asked to lose more than everyone else. I think you deserve a reconsideration.Huggles>> If I'm doing the math correctly (And, I might not be!), it seems you have been> asked to lose over 20%, not the 10% required of others. I'm sure the doctor> said it's because of you beginning weight, but given your recent progress, and> the addition of exercise to your regime, don't you think you could re-address> the issue of pre-op weight loss with a surgeon? It does seem a little extreme.> Of course, if it is for the eventual SUCCESSFUL outcome of the surgery, you> must accept that the doctor is protecting both himself, and more importantly,> YOU. Avoiding complications during surgery is important--we want you around to> enjoy your life on the "other side." But, it might be worth addressing the> issue, and see if they will agree to a 15% weight loss. That would re-energize> you, and encourage you to continue. Which, BTW, is what I pray you will find> the motivation to do--keep working it, it's working!> > Regards,> > Pat> Open RNY, 9/21/04> -124> > > Quoting BBQ Man <bbq_man@c...>:> > > Hello all!> >> > First off, let me share a happy moment with you... I was finally able to> > break through the plateau I've been on (what seems like) forever. I just> > couldn't get below 462 and this morning, I weighed in at 458.8! I was both> > shocked and amazed... but HAPPY. :)> >> > Now for the "other" news. I really need some advice on a sensitive issue I'm> > having. I am finding myself getting more and more frustrated and even> > jealous because it seems that everyone around is getting their dates and> > surgery and I'm being left in the proverbial dust. Now, I know this sounds a> > little petty, and I want everyone to know up front that I'm very happy and> > supportive of everyone getting their date and surgery. It's just that for> > me, I've had so much weight to lose because I seem to be one of the most> > heavy people both here and in my "face to face" support group. Hence, alot> > of people that started their journey long after me, have had their surgery> > and I'm still working on losing the pre-surgery weight. For those of you who> > don't know, I was told in July of '04 I'd have to lose 100 pounds. That news> > put me off and I sort of went off the deep end and over the next year had a> > net gain of 24 pounds. So, when I finally got me head on straight about> > this, I had 124 pouds to lose. With todays weight loss, I have lost 75> > pounds so far and still have 54 pounds to go before I get a date. I've lost> > the 75 since 7-24-05 and now it's getting somewhat more difficult. However,> > I've been getting a lot more exercise (mostly walking) and even tried getting> > in even more water, so with any luck I'll continue to lose. But, I do get a> > little discouraged sometimes. I thought a while about whether I should even> > bring up this subject here, but decided it would be okay.> >> > So what kind of suggestions do you all have to help me get over this> > frustration of being the only pre-op in the bunch (so to speak... I know I'm> > not in THIS group, but I am in the other one...).> >> > Help me please...> >> > Ron>

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Francisco, I have to echo Gordy's words here... you are one of my great heros! It's a wonderful community here, but there are few men (at least who post much) and it's just a little easier for me to identify with another man that's going or gone through this than the women (not to put any less importance on you women).

I do know it'll work for me. I do know I'll have my day (every dog does...<g>). And I do know I'm worth all the hard work I've put into this so far and will continue to do. But hearing it from others is still a good thing. :) I've been trying to work more on the self talk, to be more positive and question myself at every corner. It DOES help a lot. I try to be as persistant as I can be, but I stumble ocasionally, as do we all.

Since I've been feeling a little "blue" over this issue, I felt it was best for me to bring it up here and see what sort of help I ccould get. So far, I feel a lot better about things. Everyone has been so supportive... but what else could I possibly expect from such a caring group of people? Thanks again to everyone!

Ron

Re: A couple things...

Ron:You have been such a great cheerleader here. You know, one of the hardest things for us to do is to be our own cheerleader.This is the way I talked myself into being more patient. (I know the wait is seemingly unending). I would say to myself, "You have two options: 1. stay on course and know it will happen or 2. betray yourself AGAIN and end up right where you were--unhappy." Option 1 will get you where you want to go. Option 2 is a self-defeating, self-fulfilling road to no where.Ron, this is going to work for you. You need to keep telling yourself that it will. For me, gastric bypass was the last option because nothing else worked.But this last option, as you know, is NOT easy. It requires us to do our own "mental bypass surgery" to change deep-held habits, assumptions and ways of operating in the world. This change will require so much effort, but in the end, aren't you worth it? The answer is yes. You have to believe that!Just think, every pound lost is one more pound to goal. Rome wasn't built in a day, and neither were you. Take a deep breath and realize how far you've come. We're here to cheer you all the way.You will make it, but it requires one thing from you: not perfection, but persistence. Believe that you deserve this. Act as if you deserve this. Tell yourself you deserve this. The belief will guide your actions and before you know it, you'll have your surgery date.Don't give up on you, Ron! And look, you broke your plateau and you're on your way again!Keep us in the know about what's going on with you so that we can share your joy and cheer you on to victory.I'm in your corner!FranciscoP.S. This kind of post is EXACTLY why our group exists! Don't ever fear posting when you're not feeling great!>> Hello all!> > First off, let me share a happy moment with you... I was finally able to break through the plateau I've been on (what seems like) forever. I just couldn't get below 462 and this morning, I weighed in at 458.8! I was both shocked and amazed... but HAPPY. :)> > Now for the "other" news. I really need some advice on a sensitive issue I'm having. I am finding myself getting more and more frustrated and even jealous because it seems that everyone around is getting their dates and surgery and I'm being left in the proverbial dust. Now, I know this sounds a little petty, and I want everyone to know up front that I'm very happy and supportive of everyone getting their date and surgery. It's just that for me, I've had so much weight to lose because I seem to be one of the most heavy people both here and in my "face to face" support group. Hence, alot of people that started their journey long after me, have had their surgery and I'm still working on losing the pre-surgery weight. For those of you who don't know, I was told in July of '04 I'd have to lose 100 pounds. That news put me off and I sort of went off the deep end and over the next year had a net gain of 24 pounds. So, when I finally got me head on straight about this, I had 124 pouds to lose. With todays weight loss, I have lost 75 pounds so far and still have 54 pounds to go before I get a date. I've lost the 75 since 7-24-05 and now it's getting somewhat more difficult. However, I've been getting a lot more exercise (mostly walking) and even tried getting in even more water, so with any luck I'll continue to lose. But, I do get a little discouraged sometimes. I thought a while about whether I should even bring up this subject here, but decided it would be okay.> > So what kind of suggestions do you all have to help me get over this frustration of being the only pre-op in the bunch (so to speak... I know I'm not in THIS group, but I am in the other one...).> > Help me please...> > Ron>

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Francisco, I have to echo Gordy's words here... you are one of my great heros! It's a wonderful community here, but there are few men (at least who post much) and it's just a little easier for me to identify with another man that's going or gone through this than the women (not to put any less importance on you women).

I do know it'll work for me. I do know I'll have my day (every dog does...<g>). And I do know I'm worth all the hard work I've put into this so far and will continue to do. But hearing it from others is still a good thing. :) I've been trying to work more on the self talk, to be more positive and question myself at every corner. It DOES help a lot. I try to be as persistant as I can be, but I stumble ocasionally, as do we all.

Since I've been feeling a little "blue" over this issue, I felt it was best for me to bring it up here and see what sort of help I ccould get. So far, I feel a lot better about things. Everyone has been so supportive... but what else could I possibly expect from such a caring group of people? Thanks again to everyone!

Ron

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Ron:You have been such a great cheerleader here. You know, one of the hardest things for us to do is to be our own cheerleader.This is the way I talked myself into being more patient. (I know the wait is seemingly unending). I would say to myself, "You have two options: 1. stay on course and know it will happen or 2. betray yourself AGAIN and end up right where you were--unhappy." Option 1 will get you where you want to go. Option 2 is a self-defeating, self-fulfilling road to no where.Ron, this is going to work for you. You need to keep telling yourself that it will. For me, gastric bypass was the last option because nothing else worked.But this last option, as you know, is NOT easy. It requires us to do our own "mental bypass surgery" to change deep-held habits, assumptions and ways of operating in the world. This change will require so much effort, but in the end, aren't you worth it? The answer is yes. You have to believe that!Just think, every pound lost is one more pound to goal. Rome wasn't built in a day, and neither were you. Take a deep breath and realize how far you've come. We're here to cheer you all the way.You will make it, but it requires one thing from you: not perfection, but persistence. Believe that you deserve this. Act as if you deserve this. Tell yourself you deserve this. The belief will guide your actions and before you know it, you'll have your surgery date.Don't give up on you, Ron! And look, you broke your plateau and you're on your way again!Keep us in the know about what's going on with you so that we can share your joy and cheer you on to victory.I'm in your corner!FranciscoP.S. This kind of post is EXACTLY why our group exists! Don't ever fear posting when you're not feeling great!>> Hello all!> > First off, let me share a happy moment with you... I was finally able to break through the plateau I've been on (what seems like) forever. I just couldn't get below 462 and this morning, I weighed in at 458.8! I was both shocked and amazed... but HAPPY. :)> > Now for the "other" news. I really need some advice on a sensitive issue I'm having. I am finding myself getting more and more frustrated and even jealous because it seems that everyone around is getting their dates and surgery and I'm being left in the proverbial dust. Now, I know this sounds a little petty, and I want everyone to know up front that I'm very happy and supportive of everyone getting their date and surgery. It's just that for me, I've had so much weight to lose because I seem to be one of the most heavy people both here and in my "face to face" support group. Hence, alot of people that started their journey long after me, have had their surgery and I'm still working on losing the pre-surgery weight. For those of you who don't know, I was told in July of '04 I'd have to lose 100 pounds. That news put me off and I sort of went off the deep end and over the next year had a net gain of 24 pounds. So, when I finally got me head on straight about this, I had 124 pouds to lose. With todays weight loss, I have lost 75 pounds so far and still have 54 pounds to go before I get a date. I've lost the 75 since 7-24-05 and now it's getting somewhat more difficult. However, I've been getting a lot more exercise (mostly walking) and even tried getting in even more water, so with any luck I'll continue to lose. But, I do get a little discouraged sometimes. I thought a while about whether I should even bring up this subject here, but decided it would be okay.> > So what kind of suggestions do you all have to help me get over this frustration of being the only pre-op in the bunch (so to speak... I know I'm not in THIS group, but I am in the other one...).> > Help me please...> > Ron>

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I can understand your feeling frustrated when you hear about people

getting dates before you reach goal. I too felt that way because I

started to loose weight before orientation. So by the time my 10% was

done, I ended up loosing more weight then needed. I mentioned it to

my surgeon and he said " great you keep up the good work and you can

get to that goal " ...not what I expected.

I just stay focused on what I'm trying to achieve, a healthier me!

Whether you loose 75lbs or 124 lbs or 200lbs before surgery, it's all

for the same end result.... a healthier you! If surgery helps you

loose it or you do it on your own, be proud no matter what. If takes

longer then it more time for you to think about your life and what

this means to you. It's just a journey that will be a little longer

for you to travel. And who know's, maybe this journey is the one your

suppose to be on.. not the express train to Roux-N-Y.

You are doing great. I hear you walking more and more to work.

Everyday is a battle even if you have had the surgery. Remember it's

not over just cause you get a date. I reached goal but I still

struggle till the day I come out of surgery to do my best and give it

my all. This is for you, for you to make the most out of it. So what

if you get to make the most a little longer... you'll be better

because of it, and you'll love yourself more then you already do.

I know you can do this, we all can. There's no time limit for life

and health.

LISA

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I can understand your feeling frustrated when you hear about people

getting dates before you reach goal. I too felt that way because I

started to loose weight before orientation. So by the time my 10% was

done, I ended up loosing more weight then needed. I mentioned it to

my surgeon and he said " great you keep up the good work and you can

get to that goal " ...not what I expected.

I just stay focused on what I'm trying to achieve, a healthier me!

Whether you loose 75lbs or 124 lbs or 200lbs before surgery, it's all

for the same end result.... a healthier you! If surgery helps you

loose it or you do it on your own, be proud no matter what. If takes

longer then it more time for you to think about your life and what

this means to you. It's just a journey that will be a little longer

for you to travel. And who know's, maybe this journey is the one your

suppose to be on.. not the express train to Roux-N-Y.

You are doing great. I hear you walking more and more to work.

Everyday is a battle even if you have had the surgery. Remember it's

not over just cause you get a date. I reached goal but I still

struggle till the day I come out of surgery to do my best and give it

my all. This is for you, for you to make the most out of it. So what

if you get to make the most a little longer... you'll be better

because of it, and you'll love yourself more then you already do.

I know you can do this, we all can. There's no time limit for life

and health.

LISA

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Thank you Ramona for your words of wisdom and the cyber hug. Those always help. :) No, I have not tried water arobics yet. Having been so sedintary all my life (like most of us, I imagine), I'm trying to ease myself into the exercise world a little at a time. Since I've started this journey, my mental attitudes have evolved a lot on the whole exercise subject. I used to HATE exercise with a passion. Now, I know I need to move all I can, so I walk, walk, walk... I shop weekly and wear myself out walking around the store(s). I've been walking to work nearly every day now and I'm showing some improvement in my timing. It'll be a bit before I'm ready to get into a pool though. As much as I love swimming, I have more work to do on the mental part of that first. I'm still in the mindset that I don't want people seeing me in that setting, but I am working on it.

Ron

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Hi Ron,

Congratulations on your finally breaking through that plateau. I know it is hard waiting for that date and the weight just does seem to want to go down fast enough but You do have to remember that the surgery is only a tool anyway that helps us to lose weight it is still us that is doing all of the work. Choosing the right foods to eat, exercising everyday, drinking all that water and taking all of the supplements. We still do all of the work. When you do finally have the surgery you will be so much more ahead of the game because you will know in your heart how much you really want this. You are such a good person and you deserve to be health also. Don't give up on yourself. You have come too far to let yourself down. Have you given water aerobics a try? It is one of the best exercises. You don't have to feel bad getting into the water because everyone is there for the same reason to get into shape. So let me send you a Cyber Hug {{{{{ HUG }}}}}

and know that you are an important part of our little group.

Ramona

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Thank you Ramona for your words of wisdom and the cyber hug. Those always help. :) No, I have not tried water arobics yet. Having been so sedintary all my life (like most of us, I imagine), I'm trying to ease myself into the exercise world a little at a time. Since I've started this journey, my mental attitudes have evolved a lot on the whole exercise subject. I used to HATE exercise with a passion. Now, I know I need to move all I can, so I walk, walk, walk... I shop weekly and wear myself out walking around the store(s). I've been walking to work nearly every day now and I'm showing some improvement in my timing. It'll be a bit before I'm ready to get into a pool though. As much as I love swimming, I have more work to do on the mental part of that first. I'm still in the mindset that I don't want people seeing me in that setting, but I am working on it.

Ron

Re: A couple things...

Hi Ron,

Congratulations on your finally breaking through that plateau. I know it is hard waiting for that date and the weight just does seem to want to go down fast enough but You do have to remember that the surgery is only a tool anyway that helps us to lose weight it is still us that is doing all of the work. Choosing the right foods to eat, exercising everyday, drinking all that water and taking all of the supplements. We still do all of the work. When you do finally have the surgery you will be so much more ahead of the game because you will know in your heart how much you really want this. You are such a good person and you deserve to be health also. Don't give up on yourself. You have come too far to let yourself down. Have you given water aerobics a try? It is one of the best exercises. You don't have to feel bad getting into the water because everyone is there for the same reason to get into shape. So let me send you a Cyber Hug {{{{{ HUG }}}}}

and know that you are an important part of our little group.

Ramona

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Thanks . I know there's no time limit here, that we're not trying to beat one another. I just need to stay focused on my own journey than others. I'm learning... :) Best of luck to you . Keep us posted on your own progress.

Ron

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I can understand your feeling frustrated when you hear about people getting dates before you reach goal. I too felt that way because I started to loose weight before orientation. So by the time my 10% was done, I ended up loosing more weight then needed. I mentioned it to my surgeon and he said "great you keep up the good work and you can get to that goal"...not what I expected.I just stay focused on what I'm trying to achieve, a healthier me! Whether you loose 75lbs or 124 lbs or 200lbs before surgery, it's all for the same end result.... a healthier you! If surgery helps you loose it or you do it on your own, be proud no matter what. If takes longer then it more time for you to think about your life and what this means to you. It's just a journey that will be a little longer for you to travel. And who know's, maybe this journey is the one your suppose to be on.. not the express train to Roux-N-Y.You are doing great. I hear you walking more and more to work. Everyday is a battle even if you have had the surgery. Remember it's not over just cause you get a date. I reached goal but I still struggle till the day I come out of surgery to do my best and give it my all. This is for you, for you to make the most out of it. So what if you get to make the most a little longer... you'll be better because of it, and you'll love yourself more then you already do.I know you can do this, we all can. There's no time limit for life and health.LISA

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Thanks . I know there's no time limit here, that we're not trying to beat one another. I just need to stay focused on my own journey than others. I'm learning... :) Best of luck to you . Keep us posted on your own progress.

Ron

Re: A couple things...

I can understand your feeling frustrated when you hear about people getting dates before you reach goal. I too felt that way because I started to loose weight before orientation. So by the time my 10% was done, I ended up loosing more weight then needed. I mentioned it to my surgeon and he said "great you keep up the good work and you can get to that goal"...not what I expected.I just stay focused on what I'm trying to achieve, a healthier me! Whether you loose 75lbs or 124 lbs or 200lbs before surgery, it's all for the same end result.... a healthier you! If surgery helps you loose it or you do it on your own, be proud no matter what. If takes longer then it more time for you to think about your life and what this means to you. It's just a journey that will be a little longer for you to travel. And who know's, maybe this journey is the one your suppose to be on.. not the express train to Roux-N-Y.You are doing great. I hear you walking more and more to work. Everyday is a battle even if you have had the surgery. Remember it's not over just cause you get a date. I reached goal but I still struggle till the day I come out of surgery to do my best and give it my all. This is for you, for you to make the most out of it. So what if you get to make the most a little longer... you'll be better because of it, and you'll love yourself more then you already do.I know you can do this, we all can. There's no time limit for life and health.LISA

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Ron You just broke a plateau and I think this is great. I know it has taken a lot because of how much you are required to lose, but it's so your okay during the surgery. So don't be jealous or discouraged especially since now you are starting to lose again. I really believe that the exercise and water really keeps the weight lose going. I believe since you started walking to work made a difference, and if you keep this up you will get the rest off that is required and you will have surgery. So don't be down, I know you can do this and will be so happy when it is your day. Take care. Walk, walk, walk, and drink water, water, water and stay on track and watch that scale move lower back. DonnaBBQ Man wrote: Hello all! First off, let me share a happy moment with you... I was finally able to break through the plateau I've been on (what seems like) forever. I just couldn't get below 462 and this morning, I weighed in at 458.8! I was both shocked and amazed... but HAPPY. :) Now for the "other" news. I really need some advice on a sensitive issue I'm having. I am finding myself getting more and more frustrated and even jealous because it seems that everyone around is getting their dates and surgery and I'm being left in the proverbial dust. Now, I know this sounds a little petty, and I want

everyone to know up front that I'm very happy and supportive of everyone getting their date and surgery. It's just that for me, I've had so much weight to lose because I seem to be one of the most heavy people both here and in my "face to face" support group. Hence, alot of people that started their journey long after me, have had their surgery and I'm still working on losing the pre-surgery weight. For those of you who don't know, I was told in July of '04 I'd have to lose 100 pounds. That news put me off and I sort of went off the deep end and over the next year had a net gain of 24 pounds. So, when I finally got me head on straight about this, I had 124 pouds to lose. With todays weight loss, I have lost 75 pounds so far and still have 54 pounds to go before I get a date. I've lost the 75 since 7-24-05 and now it's getting somewhat more difficult. However, I've been getting a lot more exercise (mostly walking) and even tried getting

in even more water, so with any luck I'll continue to lose. But, I do get a little discouraged sometimes. I thought a while about whether I should even bring up this subject here, but decided it would be okay. So what kind of suggestions do you all have to help me get over this frustration of being the only pre-op in the bunch (so to speak... I know I'm not in THIS group, but I am in the other one...). Help me please... Ron Donna

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