Re: A couple things... Ron

[Guest guest]

Ron,

You might want to buddy up with someone from the group that already goes to the gym and go to check it out. You can also get a guess pass for 24 hour fitness to check that out. That is where I go. Water aerobic is one of the best exercises for people like us. In the water our bodies weigh 1/3 of our normal weight. I was reading some where that jogging in water for a half hour burns 300 calories. You don't even have to go to classes just walk in the water. I support water aerobic so much because of the sciatica that I have on my right side and arthritis in both of my knees. When I first started I was self conscious because I weighed 357 but then I noticed everyone was so nice. I have since made so very good friends there. So now I will get off of my soap box. That was enough exercise for today.

Ramona

[Guest guest]

Ron,

You might want to buddy up with someone from the group that already goes to the gym and go to check it out. You can also get a guess pass for 24 hour fitness to check that out. That is where I go. Water aerobic is one of the best exercises for people like us. In the water our bodies weigh 1/3 of our normal weight. I was reading some where that jogging in water for a half hour burns 300 calories. You don't even have to go to classes just walk in the water. I support water aerobic so much because of the sciatica that I have on my right side and arthritis in both of my knees. When I first started I was self conscious because I weighed 357 but then I noticed everyone was so nice. I have since made so very good friends there. So now I will get off of my soap box. That was enough exercise for today.

Ramona

[Guest guest]

Dawn, I want to tell you that I read your post and it

made me feel a little sad. I hear your cry and I

understand where you are comming from. I know it is

hard to hear the good things that we post ops post

about but remember that you will be posting just like

this when the time comes. I really hope and pray that

your time will come because I don't want you to be

depressed about anything especially about something as

great as this. I took no offense to your statement so

please don't think so. I just remember my time and I

am not bragging here but it took me from the last two

weeks of October to the first week in February (so

about 3.5 months) from start to finish but you have to

remember I did not have that much to lose either.

Even then it seemed long. We are here to support,

encourage and inspire you all and ourselves because

even we get down about things since our surgery. Be

encouraged.

Pam Marsh

--- Mike & Dawn wrote:

> Ron

> I can relate to your letter because I am dealing

> with some of the same

> issues. I too have to fight against getting

> frustrated while I watch other

> people get their surgery and move along in the

> process. For me, my PCP

> brought up gastric surgery with me the first time

> Aug of 2004...my dear

> husband refused to talk about or even consider my

> having the surgery at that

> time because of the mortality rates attached to it.

> It took till Nov 2005

> to convince him that this was something I felt I had

> to do for myself and I

> don't see any other options. For me, I have an

> Orientation in mid February,

> so I haven't been able to even work on my mandatory

> weight loss as

> yet....different struggles and factors...but I feel

> like I have been

> fighting the battle to get the surgery since August

> 2004. I read posts from

> these " kids " in their 20's *grin* who say they are

> so glad they had this

> before waiting any longer and it hits me...I'll be

> 42 next month...I want to

> start living too, and I have a lot less time ahead

> of me than they do for

> living....so much of my life has been controlled by

> my weight...a 6 month

> wait with Kaiser...my mind says...My God, 6 months

> and I would be down

> enough to be feeling good again , not be in constant

> back pain etc...some

> days my mantra seems stuck at " Just what value does

> a year of my life

> have? " ...those are also the days I threaten to

> plunge us into debt and go

> into Mexico and self pay to get my surgery NOW.

> There are days when the

> group here actually depresses me...the post-ops and

> the talk of their new

> lives...those reporting in on new surgeries etc...

> It isn't that we begrudge

> them theirs but we want ours too...we want to be

> sharing all these wonderful

> stages and changes ourselves, rather than watching

> from the sidelines.

> Dawn

>

> Re:

> A couple

> things...

> Ron

>

>

> Ron,

> My name is , I have read many of your post

> and your a sweet and

> kind man. I know everyone has there own pace and

> there own goals that are

> set for them. I started learning about WLS in Jan

> 2005. I had injured my

> back at work and was out of work for 2 yrs. Since I

> was out of work with a

> hurt back and already overweight this didn't help. I

> gained an extra 60 lbs

> while off work. My back doctors thought that WLS

> would help with my back

> pain more then back surgery. I was all for it. I had

> 3 different doctors

> agree. I have had Kaiser my whole life and not once

> was the WLS mentioned to

> me, but then again I don't go to the doctors that

> often. So anyways at first

> I was going to have the WLS done outside of Kaiser,

> the insurance company

> that was handling my back claim approved the consult

> and I started going to

> support groups and getting ready for the surgery.

> Then the next thing I know

> the insurance company denied the claim. They told me

> that they would pay for

> a membership for a gym of my choice and also a 12

> month program of Weight

> Watcher or Craig or someone I picked but they

> weren't going to approve

> the surgery. So here comes October and my foot is

> really bothering me so I

> went to Kaiser to have it checked. I had a stress

> fracture and not only did

> I have a stress fracture but I had a Doctor that I

> have never met but she

> was very familiar with my Father because she was his

> doctor. My father

> struggled with his weight all of his life and passed

> away in 1997 at the age

> of 54. I died in his sleep. So here it was 7 yrs

> later and this doctor

> remembered my Father and his history. I was

> impressed. She asked me what I

> was doing with my life and etc and I explained to

> her about trying to have

> WLS then the next thing I know. She asked why not

> just do it here at Kaiser.

> So needless to say she approved me. Now I'm waiting

> for my Lifesyle 4 class

> and then I hope to have surgery. But from what I

> understand it doesn't look

> like I will be having it until sometime in March.

> This is a hard time for so

> many of us. Remember back to when we couldn't wait

> to drive a car, or to be

> old enough to get into a bar. This WLS is just

> another step in our journey.

> Though our lives we explore many journeys and not

> all of them are good ones.

> But we seem to continue to explore. I know its hard

> but your doing such a

> great job. Keep exploring and complete the journey

> you started and then

> venture out into your next new journey.

> Best wishes to you

>

>

> BBQ Man wrote:

> Hello all!

>

> First off, let me share a happy moment with

> you... I was finally able

> to break through the plateau I've been on (what

> seems like) forever. I just

> couldn't get below 462 and this morning, I weighed

> in at 458.8! I was both

> shocked and amazed... but HAPPY.

>

> Now for the " other " news. I really need some

> advice on a sensitive

> issue I'm having. I am finding myself getting more

> and more frustrated and

> even jealous because it seems that everyone around

> is getting their dates

> and surgery and I'm being left in the proverbial

> dust. Now, I know this

> sounds a little petty, and I want everyone to know

> up front that I'm very

> happy and supportive of everyone getting their date

> and surgery. It's just

> that for me, I've had so much weight to lose because

> I seem to be one of the

> most heavy people both here and in my " face to face "

> support group. Hence,

> alot of people that started their journey long after

> me, have had their

> surgery and I'm still working on losing the

> pre-surgery weight. For those

> of you who don't know, I was told in July of '04 I'd

> have to lose 100

> pounds. That news put me off and I sort of went off

> the deep end and over

> the next year had a net gain of 24 pounds. So, when

> I finally got me head

> on straight about this, I had 124 pouds to lose.

> With todays weight loss, I

> have lost 75 pounds so far and still have 54 pounds

> to go before I get a

> date. I've lost the 75 since 7-24-05 and now it's

> getting somewhat more

> difficult. However, I've been getting a lot more

> exercise (mostly walking)

> and even tried getting in even more water, so with

> any luck I'll continue to

> lose. But, I do get a little discouraged sometimes.

> I thought a while

> about whether I should even bring up this subject

> here, but decided it would

> be okay.

>

> So what kind of suggestions do you all have to

> help me get over this

> frustration of being the only pre-op in the bunch

> (so to speak... I know

> I'm not in THIS group, but I am in the other

> one...).

>

> Help me please...

>

> Ron

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Dawn, I want to tell you that I read your post and it

made me feel a little sad. I hear your cry and I

understand where you are comming from. I know it is

hard to hear the good things that we post ops post

about but remember that you will be posting just like

this when the time comes. I really hope and pray that

your time will come because I don't want you to be

depressed about anything especially about something as

great as this. I took no offense to your statement so

please don't think so. I just remember my time and I

am not bragging here but it took me from the last two

weeks of October to the first week in February (so

about 3.5 months) from start to finish but you have to

remember I did not have that much to lose either.

Even then it seemed long. We are here to support,

encourage and inspire you all and ourselves because

even we get down about things since our surgery. Be

encouraged.

Pam Marsh

--- Mike & Dawn wrote:

> Ron

> I can relate to your letter because I am dealing

> with some of the same

> issues. I too have to fight against getting

> frustrated while I watch other

> people get their surgery and move along in the

> process. For me, my PCP

> brought up gastric surgery with me the first time

> Aug of 2004...my dear

> husband refused to talk about or even consider my

> having the surgery at that

> time because of the mortality rates attached to it.

> It took till Nov 2005

> to convince him that this was something I felt I had

> to do for myself and I

> don't see any other options. For me, I have an

> Orientation in mid February,

> so I haven't been able to even work on my mandatory

> weight loss as

> yet....different struggles and factors...but I feel

> like I have been

> fighting the battle to get the surgery since August

> 2004. I read posts from

> these " kids " in their 20's *grin* who say they are

> so glad they had this

> before waiting any longer and it hits me...I'll be

> 42 next month...I want to

> start living too, and I have a lot less time ahead

> of me than they do for

> living....so much of my life has been controlled by

> my weight...a 6 month

> wait with Kaiser...my mind says...My God, 6 months

> and I would be down

> enough to be feeling good again , not be in constant

> back pain etc...some

> days my mantra seems stuck at " Just what value does

> a year of my life

> have? " ...those are also the days I threaten to

> plunge us into debt and go

> into Mexico and self pay to get my surgery NOW.

> There are days when the

> group here actually depresses me...the post-ops and

> the talk of their new

> lives...those reporting in on new surgeries etc...

> It isn't that we begrudge

> them theirs but we want ours too...we want to be

> sharing all these wonderful

> stages and changes ourselves, rather than watching

> from the sidelines.

> Dawn

>

> Re:

> A couple

> things...

> Ron

>

>

> Ron,

> My name is , I have read many of your post

> and your a sweet and

> kind man. I know everyone has there own pace and

> there own goals that are

> set for them. I started learning about WLS in Jan

> 2005. I had injured my

> back at work and was out of work for 2 yrs. Since I

> was out of work with a

> hurt back and already overweight this didn't help. I

> gained an extra 60 lbs

> while off work. My back doctors thought that WLS

> would help with my back

> pain more then back surgery. I was all for it. I had

> 3 different doctors

> agree. I have had Kaiser my whole life and not once

> was the WLS mentioned to

> me, but then again I don't go to the doctors that

> often. So anyways at first

> I was going to have the WLS done outside of Kaiser,

> the insurance company

> that was handling my back claim approved the consult

> and I started going to

> support groups and getting ready for the surgery.

> Then the next thing I know

> the insurance company denied the claim. They told me

> that they would pay for

> a membership for a gym of my choice and also a 12

> month program of Weight

> Watcher or Craig or someone I picked but they

> weren't going to approve

> the surgery. So here comes October and my foot is

> really bothering me so I

> went to Kaiser to have it checked. I had a stress

> fracture and not only did

> I have a stress fracture but I had a Doctor that I

> have never met but she

> was very familiar with my Father because she was his

> doctor. My father

> struggled with his weight all of his life and passed

> away in 1997 at the age

> of 54. I died in his sleep. So here it was 7 yrs

> later and this doctor

> remembered my Father and his history. I was

> impressed. She asked me what I

> was doing with my life and etc and I explained to

> her about trying to have

> WLS then the next thing I know. She asked why not

> just do it here at Kaiser.

> So needless to say she approved me. Now I'm waiting

> for my Lifesyle 4 class

> and then I hope to have surgery. But from what I

> understand it doesn't look

> like I will be having it until sometime in March.

> This is a hard time for so

> many of us. Remember back to when we couldn't wait

> to drive a car, or to be

> old enough to get into a bar. This WLS is just

> another step in our journey.

> Though our lives we explore many journeys and not

> all of them are good ones.

> But we seem to continue to explore. I know its hard

> but your doing such a

> great job. Keep exploring and complete the journey

> you started and then

> venture out into your next new journey.

> Best wishes to you

>

>

> BBQ Man wrote:

> Hello all!

>

> First off, let me share a happy moment with

> you... I was finally able

> to break through the plateau I've been on (what

> seems like) forever. I just

> couldn't get below 462 and this morning, I weighed

> in at 458.8! I was both

> shocked and amazed... but HAPPY.

>

> Now for the " other " news. I really need some

> advice on a sensitive

> issue I'm having. I am finding myself getting more

> and more frustrated and

> even jealous because it seems that everyone around

> is getting their dates

> and surgery and I'm being left in the proverbial

> dust. Now, I know this

> sounds a little petty, and I want everyone to know

> up front that I'm very

> happy and supportive of everyone getting their date

> and surgery. It's just

> that for me, I've had so much weight to lose because

> I seem to be one of the

> most heavy people both here and in my " face to face "

> support group. Hence,

> alot of people that started their journey long after

> me, have had their

> surgery and I'm still working on losing the

> pre-surgery weight. For those

> of you who don't know, I was told in July of '04 I'd

> have to lose 100

> pounds. That news put me off and I sort of went off

> the deep end and over

> the next year had a net gain of 24 pounds. So, when

> I finally got me head

> on straight about this, I had 124 pouds to lose.

> With todays weight loss, I

> have lost 75 pounds so far and still have 54 pounds

> to go before I get a

> date. I've lost the 75 since 7-24-05 and now it's

> getting somewhat more

> difficult. However, I've been getting a lot more

> exercise (mostly walking)

> and even tried getting in even more water, so with

> any luck I'll continue to

> lose. But, I do get a little discouraged sometimes.

> I thought a while

> about whether I should even bring up this subject

> here, but decided it would

> be okay.

>

> So what kind of suggestions do you all have to

> help me get over this

> frustration of being the only pre-op in the bunch

> (so to speak... I know

> I'm not in THIS group, but I am in the other

> one...).

>

> Help me please...

>

> Ron

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Thanks for the encouragement Pam. I'm glad you didn't take offense, I hope no one did...I am actually thrilled for everyone as they go through the various milestones along the way...just sometimes one gets that "wish it was my turn" feeling.

Ron, your fantastick You start the post because of your feelings and end up giving me the pep talk...One of these days when I get to meet you in person, I owe you a great big bear hug for that one

[Mike & Dawn ]

Re:> A couple> things...> Ron> > > Ron,> My name is , I have read many of your post> and your a sweet and> kind man. I know everyone has there own pace and> there own goals that are> set for them. I started learning about WLS in Jan> 2005. I had injured my> back at work and was out of work for 2 yrs. Since I> was out of work with a> hurt back and already overweight this didn't help. I> gained an extra 60 lbs> while off work. My back doctors thought that WLS> would help with my back> pain more then back surgery. I was all for it. I had> 3 different doctors> agree. I have had Kaiser my whole life and not once> was the WLS mentioned to> me, but then again I don't go to the doctors that> often. So anyways at first> I was going to have the WLS done outside of Kaiser,> the insurance company> that was handling my back claim approved the consult> and I started going to> support groups and getting ready for the surgery.> Then the next thing I know> the insurance company denied the claim. They told me> that they would pay for> a membership for a gym of my choice and also a 12> month program of Weight> Watcher or Craig or someone I picked but they> weren't going to approve> the surgery. So here comes October and my foot is> really bothering me so I> went to Kaiser to have it checked. I had a stress> fracture and not only did> I have a stress fracture but I had a Doctor that I> have never met but she> was very familiar with my Father because she was his> doctor. My father> struggled with his weight all of his life and passed> away in 1997 at the age> of 54. I died in his sleep. So here it was 7 yrs> later and this doctor> remembered my Father and his history. I was> impressed. She asked me what I> was doing with my life and etc and I explained to> her about trying to have> WLS then the next thing I know. She asked why not> just do it here at Kaiser.> So needless to say she approved me. Now I'm waiting> for my Lifesyle 4 class> and then I hope to have surgery. But from what I> understand it doesn't look> like I will be having it until sometime in March.> This is a hard time for so> many of us. Remember back to when we couldn't wait> to drive a car, or to be> old enough to get into a bar. This WLS is just> another step in our journey.> Though our lives we explore many journeys and not> all of them are good ones.> But we seem to continue to explore. I know its hard> but your doing such a> great job. Keep exploring and complete the journey> you started and then> venture out into your next new journey.> Best wishes to you> > > BBQ Man wrote:> Hello all!> > First off, let me share a happy moment with> you... I was finally able> to break through the plateau I've been on (what> seems like) forever. I just> couldn't get below 462 and this morning, I weighed> in at 458.8! I was both> shocked and amazed... but HAPPY. > > Now for the "other" news. I really need some> advice on a sensitive> issue I'm having. I am finding myself getting more> and more frustrated and> even jealous because it seems that everyone around> is getting their dates> and surgery and I'm being left in the proverbial> dust. Now, I know this> sounds a little petty, and I want everyone to know> up front that I'm very> happy and supportive of everyone getting their date> and surgery. It's just> that for me, I've had so much weight to lose because> I seem to be one of the> most heavy people both here and in my "face to face"> support group. Hence,> alot of people that started their journey long after> me, have had their> surgery and I'm still working on losing the> pre-surgery weight. For those> of you who don't know, I was told in July of '04 I'd> have to lose 100> pounds. That news put me off and I sort of went off> the deep end and over> the next year had a net gain of 24 pounds. So, when> I finally got me head> on straight about this, I had 124 pouds to lose. > With todays weight loss, I> have lost 75 pounds so far and still have 54 pounds> to go before I get a> date. I've lost the 75 since 7-24-05 and now it's> getting somewhat more> difficult. However, I've been getting a lot more> exercise (mostly walking)> and even tried getting in even more water, so with> any luck I'll continue to> lose. But, I do get a little discouraged sometimes.> I thought a while> about whether I should even bring up this subject> here, but decided it would> be okay.> > So what kind of suggestions do you all have to> help me get over this> frustration of being the only pre-op in the bunch> (so to speak... I know> I'm not in THIS group, but I am in the other> one...).> > Help me please...> > Ron> > > > === message truncated ===__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the encouragement Pam. I'm glad you didn't take offense, I hope no one did...I am actually thrilled for everyone as they go through the various milestones along the way...just sometimes one gets that "wish it was my turn" feeling.

Ron, your fantastick You start the post because of your feelings and end up giving me the pep talk...One of these days when I get to meet you in person, I owe you a great big bear hug for that one

[Mike & Dawn ]

Re:> A couple> things...> Ron> > > Ron,> My name is , I have read many of your post> and your a sweet and> kind man. I know everyone has there own pace and> there own goals that are> set for them. I started learning about WLS in Jan> 2005. I had injured my> back at work and was out of work for 2 yrs. Since I> was out of work with a> hurt back and already overweight this didn't help. I> gained an extra 60 lbs> while off work. My back doctors thought that WLS> would help with my back> pain more then back surgery. I was all for it. I had> 3 different doctors> agree. I have had Kaiser my whole life and not once> was the WLS mentioned to> me, but then again I don't go to the doctors that> often. So anyways at first> I was going to have the WLS done outside of Kaiser,> the insurance company> that was handling my back claim approved the consult> and I started going to> support groups and getting ready for the surgery.> Then the next thing I know> the insurance company denied the claim. They told me> that they would pay for> a membership for a gym of my choice and also a 12> month program of Weight> Watcher or Craig or someone I picked but they> weren't going to approve> the surgery. So here comes October and my foot is> really bothering me so I> went to Kaiser to have it checked. I had a stress> fracture and not only did> I have a stress fracture but I had a Doctor that I> have never met but she> was very familiar with my Father because she was his> doctor. My father> struggled with his weight all of his life and passed> away in 1997 at the age> of 54. I died in his sleep. So here it was 7 yrs> later and this doctor> remembered my Father and his history. I was> impressed. She asked me what I> was doing with my life and etc and I explained to> her about trying to have> WLS then the next thing I know. She asked why not> just do it here at Kaiser.> So needless to say she approved me. Now I'm waiting> for my Lifesyle 4 class> and then I hope to have surgery. But from what I> understand it doesn't look> like I will be having it until sometime in March.> This is a hard time for so> many of us. Remember back to when we couldn't wait> to drive a car, or to be> old enough to get into a bar. This WLS is just> another step in our journey.> Though our lives we explore many journeys and not> all of them are good ones.> But we seem to continue to explore. I know its hard> but your doing such a> great job. Keep exploring and complete the journey> you started and then> venture out into your next new journey.> Best wishes to you> > > BBQ Man wrote:> Hello all!> > First off, let me share a happy moment with> you... I was finally able> to break through the plateau I've been on (what> seems like) forever. I just> couldn't get below 462 and this morning, I weighed> in at 458.8! I was both> shocked and amazed... but HAPPY. > > Now for the "other" news. I really need some> advice on a sensitive> issue I'm having. I am finding myself getting more> and more frustrated and> even jealous because it seems that everyone around> is getting their dates> and surgery and I'm being left in the proverbial> dust. Now, I know this> sounds a little petty, and I want everyone to know> up front that I'm very> happy and supportive of everyone getting their date> and surgery. It's just> that for me, I've had so much weight to lose because> I seem to be one of the> most heavy people both here and in my "face to face"> support group. Hence,> alot of people that started their journey long after> me, have had their> surgery and I'm still working on losing the> pre-surgery weight. For those> of you who don't know, I was told in July of '04 I'd> have to lose 100> pounds. That news put me off and I sort of went off> the deep end and over> the next year had a net gain of 24 pounds. So, when> I finally got me head> on straight about this, I had 124 pouds to lose. > With todays weight loss, I> have lost 75 pounds so far and still have 54 pounds> to go before I get a> date. I've lost the 75 since 7-24-05 and now it's> getting somewhat more> difficult. However, I've been getting a lot more> exercise (mostly walking)> and even tried getting in even more water, so with> any luck I'll continue to> lose. But, I do get a little discouraged sometimes.> I thought a while> about whether I should even bring up this subject> here, but decided it would> be okay.> > So what kind of suggestions do you all have to> help me get over this> frustration of being the only pre-op in the bunch> (so to speak... I know> I'm not in THIS group, but I am in the other> one...).> > Help me please...> > Ron> > > > === message truncated ===__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Dawn, there's always someone's experiences here that can relate to your own. That's why I wanted to post about the trouble I've been having here. I knew someone would likely have felt similar and lend a helping hand to deal with it. Don't be afraid to post things here Dawn. I'm glad you enjoyed my post and I look forward to someday collecting on that hug. We can all use all of those we can get.

Ron

Re:> A couple> things...> Ron> > > Ron,> My name is , I have read many of your post> and your a sweet and> kind man. I know everyone has there own pace and> there own goals that are> set for them. I started learning about WLS in Jan> 2005. I had injured my> back at work and was out of work for 2 yrs. Since I> was out of work with a> hurt back and already overweight this didn't help. I> gained an extra 60 lbs> while off work. My back doctors thought that WLS> would help with my back> pain more then back surgery. I was all for it. I had> 3 different doctors> agree. I have had Kaiser my whole life and not once> was the WLS mentioned to> me, but then again I don't go to the doctors that> often. So anyways at first> I was going to have the WLS done outside of Kaiser,> the insurance company> that was handling my back claim approved the consult> and I started going to> support groups and getting ready for the surgery.> Then the next thing I know> the insurance company denied the claim. They told me> that they would pay for> a membership for a gym of my choice and also a 12> month program of Weight> Watcher or Craig or someone I picked but they> weren't going to approve> the surgery. So here comes October and my foot is> really bothering me so I> went to Kaiser to have it checked. I had a stress> fracture and not only did> I have a stress fracture but I had a Doctor that I> have never met but she> was very familiar with my Father because she was his> doctor. My father> struggled with his weight all of his life and passed> away in 1997 at the age> of 54. I died in his sleep. So here it was 7 yrs> later and this doctor> remembered my Father and his history. I was> impressed. She asked me what I> was doing with my life and etc and I explained to> her about trying to have> WLS then the next thing I know. She asked why not> just do it here at Kaiser.> So needless to say she approved me. Now I'm waiting> for my Lifesyle 4 class> and then I hope to have surgery. But from what I> understand it doesn't look> like I will be having it until sometime in March.> This is a hard time for so> many of us. Remember back to when we couldn't wait> to drive a car, or to be> old enough to get into a bar. This WLS is just> another step in our journey.> Though our lives we explore many journeys and not> all of them are good ones.> But we seem to continue to explore. I know its hard> but your doing such a> great job. Keep exploring and complete the journey> you started and then> venture out into your next new journey.> Best wishes to you> > > BBQ Man wrote:> Hello all!> > First off, let me share a happy moment with> you... I was finally able> to break through the plateau I've been on (what> seems like) forever. I just> couldn't get below 462 and this morning, I weighed> in at 458.8! I was both> shocked and amazed... but HAPPY. > > Now for the "other" news. I really need some> advice on a sensitive> issue I'm having. I am finding myself getting more> and more frustrated and> even jealous because it seems that everyone around> is getting their dates> and surgery and I'm being left in the proverbial> dust. Now, I know this> sounds a little petty, and I want everyone to know> up front that I'm very> happy and supportive of everyone getting their date> and surgery. It's just> that for me, I've had so much weight to lose because> I seem to be one of the> most heavy people both here and in my "face to face"> support group. Hence,> alot of people that started their journey long after> me, have had their> surgery and I'm still working on losing the> pre-surgery weight. For those> of you who don't know, I was told in July of '04 I'd> have to lose 100> pounds. That news put me off and I sort of went off> the deep end and over> the next year had a net gain of 24 pounds. So, when> I finally got me head> on straight about this, I had 124 pouds to lose. > With todays weight loss, I> have lost 75 pounds so far and still have 54 pounds> to go before I get a> date. I've lost the 75 since 7-24-05 and now it's> getting somewhat more> difficult. However, I've been getting a lot more> exercise (mostly walking)> and even tried getting in even more water, so with> any luck I'll continue to> lose. But, I do get a little discouraged sometimes.> I thought a while> about whether I should even bring up this subject> here, but decided it would> be okay.> > So what kind of suggestions do you all have to> help me get over this> frustration of being the only pre-op in the bunch> (so to speak... I know> I'm not in THIS group, but I am in the other> one...).> > Help me please...> > Ron> > > > === message truncated ===__________________________________________________

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Dawn, there's always someone's experiences here that can relate to your own. That's why I wanted to post about the trouble I've been having here. I knew someone would likely have felt similar and lend a helping hand to deal with it. Don't be afraid to post things here Dawn. I'm glad you enjoyed my post and I look forward to someday collecting on that hug. We can all use all of those we can get.

Ron

Re:> A couple> things...> Ron> > > Ron,> My name is , I have read many of your post> and your a sweet and> kind man. I know everyone has there own pace and> there own goals that are> set for them. I started learning about WLS in Jan> 2005. I had injured my> back at work and was out of work for 2 yrs. Since I> was out of work with a> hurt back and already overweight this didn't help. I> gained an extra 60 lbs> while off work. My back doctors thought that WLS> would help with my back> pain more then back surgery. I was all for it. I had> 3 different doctors> agree. I have had Kaiser my whole life and not once> was the WLS mentioned to> me, but then again I don't go to the doctors that> often. So anyways at first> I was going to have the WLS done outside of Kaiser,> the insurance company> that was handling my back claim approved the consult> and I started going to> support groups and getting ready for the surgery.> Then the next thing I know> the insurance company denied the claim. They told me> that they would pay for> a membership for a gym of my choice and also a 12> month program of Weight> Watcher or Craig or someone I picked but they> weren't going to approve> the surgery. So here comes October and my foot is> really bothering me so I> went to Kaiser to have it checked. I had a stress> fracture and not only did> I have a stress fracture but I had a Doctor that I> have never met but she> was very familiar with my Father because she was his> doctor. My father> struggled with his weight all of his life and passed> away in 1997 at the age> of 54. I died in his sleep. So here it was 7 yrs> later and this doctor> remembered my Father and his history. I was> impressed. She asked me what I> was doing with my life and etc and I explained to> her about trying to have> WLS then the next thing I know. She asked why not> just do it here at Kaiser.> So needless to say she approved me. Now I'm waiting> for my Lifesyle 4 class> and then I hope to have surgery. But from what I> understand it doesn't look> like I will be having it until sometime in March.> This is a hard time for so> many of us. Remember back to when we couldn't wait> to drive a car, or to be> old enough to get into a bar. This WLS is just> another step in our journey.> Though our lives we explore many journeys and not> all of them are good ones.> But we seem to continue to explore. I know its hard> but your doing such a> great job. Keep exploring and complete the journey> you started and then> venture out into your next new journey.> Best wishes to you> > > BBQ Man wrote:> Hello all!> > First off, let me share a happy moment with> you... I was finally able> to break through the plateau I've been on (what> seems like) forever. I just> couldn't get below 462 and this morning, I weighed> in at 458.8! I was both> shocked and amazed... but HAPPY. > > Now for the "other" news. I really need some> advice on a sensitive> issue I'm having. I am finding myself getting more> and more frustrated and> even jealous because it seems that everyone around> is getting their dates> and surgery and I'm being left in the proverbial> dust. Now, I know this> sounds a little petty, and I want everyone to know> up front that I'm very> happy and supportive of everyone getting their date> and surgery. It's just> that for me, I've had so much weight to lose because> I seem to be one of the> most heavy people both here and in my "face to face"> support group. Hence,> alot of people that started their journey long after> me, have had their> surgery and I'm still working on losing the> pre-surgery weight. For those> of you who don't know, I was told in July of '04 I'd> have to lose 100> pounds. That news put me off and I sort of went off> the deep end and over> the next year had a net gain of 24 pounds. So, when> I finally got me head> on straight about this, I had 124 pouds to lose. > With todays weight loss, I> have lost 75 pounds so far and still have 54 pounds> to go before I get a> date. I've lost the 75 since 7-24-05 and now it's> getting somewhat more> difficult. However, I've been getting a lot more> exercise (mostly walking)> and even tried getting in even more water, so with> any luck I'll continue to> lose. But, I do get a little discouraged sometimes.> I thought a while> about whether I should even bring up this subject> here, but decided it would> be okay.> > So what kind of suggestions do you all have to> help me get over this> frustration of being the only pre-op in the bunch> (so to speak... I know> I'm not in THIS group, but I am in the other> one...).> > Help me please...> > Ron> > > > === message truncated ===__________________________________________________

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Well I'll find a place and give it a go. Who knows? It might be the best thing I've ever done for myself.

Ron

Re: A couple things... Ron

Ron,

You might want to buddy up with someone from the group that already goes to the gym and go to check it out. You can also get a guess pass for 24 hour fitness to check that out. That is where I go. Water aerobic is one of the best exercises for people like us. In the water our bodies weigh 1/3 of our normal weight. I was reading some where that jogging in water for a half hour burns 300 calories. You don't even have to go to classes just walk in the water. I support water aerobic so much because of the sciatica that I have on my right side and arthritis in both of my knees. When I first started I was self conscious because I weighed 357 but then I noticed everyone was so nice. I have since made so very good friends there. So now I will get off of my soap box. That was enough exercise for today.

Ramona

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Well I'll find a place and give it a go. Who knows? It might be the best thing I've ever done for myself.

Ron

Re: A couple things... Ron

Ron,

You might want to buddy up with someone from the group that already goes to the gym and go to check it out. You can also get a guess pass for 24 hour fitness to check that out. That is where I go. Water aerobic is one of the best exercises for people like us. In the water our bodies weigh 1/3 of our normal weight. I was reading some where that jogging in water for a half hour burns 300 calories. You don't even have to go to classes just walk in the water. I support water aerobic so much because of the sciatica that I have on my right side and arthritis in both of my knees. When I first started I was self conscious because I weighed 357 but then I noticed everyone was so nice. I have since made so very good friends there. So now I will get off of my soap box. That was enough exercise for today.

Ramona

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Ron--I pray that you don't loose your focus. It sounds like you've come a long way already, you're starting to loose that excess weight.Reading posts like yours make me want to share a sad part of my life, in hopes that my sadness will help bring goodness and encourgement.Nearly 2 years ago I lost my older sister because she lost her battle with fat. She was trying to loose weight, had been approved for WLS through Richmond, but because she was unable to loose her 10% (I think it was because of an underactive thyroid) she apparently gave up trying. After nearly 3 months in hospitals, she finally went in her sleep with a BMI of about 59 (4'9" and 280 lbs).The tragedy of my dear sister actually inspired me to keep loosing weight and get my own surgery in June 2004. I lost around 60 pounds while her health was declining, had my surgery about a month after she went and I've lost an additional 70 pounds since surgery.I'm cheering you on when I hear about you walking to work and keeping on track. I wish you only the best.--Sandi H.> Hello all!> > First off, let me share a happy moment with you... I was finally able to break through the plateau I've been on (what seems like) forever. I just couldn't get below 462 and this morning, I weighed in at 458.8! I was both shocked and amazed... but HAPPY. > > Now for the "other" news. I really need some advice on a sensitive issue I'm having. I am finding myself getting more and more frustrated and even jealous because it seems that everyone around is getting their dates and surgery and I'm being left in the proverbial dust. Now, I know this sounds a little petty, and I want everyone to know up front that I'm very happy and supportive of everyone getting their date and surgery. It's just that for me, I've had so much weight to lose because I seem to be one of the most heavy people both here and in my "face to face" support group. Hence, alot of people that started their journey long after me, have had their surgery and I'm still working on losing the pre-surgery weight. For those of you who don't know, I was told in July of '04 I'd have to lose 100 pounds. That news put me off and I sort of went off the deep end and over the next year had a net gain of 24 pounds. So, when I finally got me head on straight about this, I had 124 pouds to lose. With todays weight loss, I have lost 75 pounds so far and still have 54 pounds to go before I get a date. I've lost the 75 since 7-24-05 and now it's getting somewhat more difficult. However, I've been getting a lot more exercise (mostly walking) and even tried getting in even more water, so with any luck I'll continue to lose. But, I do get a little discouraged sometimes. I thought a while about whether I should even bring up this subject here, but decided it would be okay.> > So what kind of suggestions do you all have to help me get over this frustration of being the only pre-op in the bunch (so to speak... I know I'm not in THIS group, but I am in the other one...).> > Help me please...> > Ron

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Ron--I pray that you don't loose your focus. It sounds like you've come a long way already, you're starting to loose that excess weight.Reading posts like yours make me want to share a sad part of my life, in hopes that my sadness will help bring goodness and encourgement.Nearly 2 years ago I lost my older sister because she lost her battle with fat. She was trying to loose weight, had been approved for WLS through Richmond, but because she was unable to loose her 10% (I think it was because of an underactive thyroid) she apparently gave up trying. After nearly 3 months in hospitals, she finally went in her sleep with a BMI of about 59 (4'9" and 280 lbs).The tragedy of my dear sister actually inspired me to keep loosing weight and get my own surgery in June 2004. I lost around 60 pounds while her health was declining, had my surgery about a month after she went and I've lost an additional 70 pounds since surgery.I'm cheering you on when I hear about you walking to work and keeping on track. I wish you only the best.--Sandi H.> Hello all!> > First off, let me share a happy moment with you... I was finally able to break through the plateau I've been on (what seems like) forever. I just couldn't get below 462 and this morning, I weighed in at 458.8! I was both shocked and amazed... but HAPPY. > > Now for the "other" news. I really need some advice on a sensitive issue I'm having. I am finding myself getting more and more frustrated and even jealous because it seems that everyone around is getting their dates and surgery and I'm being left in the proverbial dust. Now, I know this sounds a little petty, and I want everyone to know up front that I'm very happy and supportive of everyone getting their date and surgery. It's just that for me, I've had so much weight to lose because I seem to be one of the most heavy people both here and in my "face to face" support group. Hence, alot of people that started their journey long after me, have had their surgery and I'm still working on losing the pre-surgery weight. For those of you who don't know, I was told in July of '04 I'd have to lose 100 pounds. That news put me off and I sort of went off the deep end and over the next year had a net gain of 24 pounds. So, when I finally got me head on straight about this, I had 124 pouds to lose. With todays weight loss, I have lost 75 pounds so far and still have 54 pounds to go before I get a date. I've lost the 75 since 7-24-05 and now it's getting somewhat more difficult. However, I've been getting a lot more exercise (mostly walking) and even tried getting in even more water, so with any luck I'll continue to lose. But, I do get a little discouraged sometimes. I thought a while about whether I should even bring up this subject here, but decided it would be okay.> > So what kind of suggestions do you all have to help me get over this frustration of being the only pre-op in the bunch (so to speak... I know I'm not in THIS group, but I am in the other one...).> > Help me please...> > Ron

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Sandi, I'm so sorry to hear of your sister's passing. It's nice to know you were able to stay on track through that though and have your surgery. So many others may have crashed and burned after such a tragedy. But don't worry about me losing focus. Yes, I may stumble once in a while, but I will remain focused on my goal. Thanks for your encouragement!

Ron

Re: A couple things... Ron

Ron--I pray that you don't loose your focus. It sounds like you've come a long way already, you're starting to loose that excess weight.

Reading posts like yours make me want to share a sad part of my life, in hopes that my sadness will help bring goodness and encourgement.

Nearly 2 years ago I lost my older sister because she lost her battle with fat. She was trying to loose weight, had been approved for WLS through Richmond, but because she was unable to loose her 10% (I think it was because of an underactive thyroid) she apparently gave up trying. After nearly 3 months in hospitals, she finally went in her sleep with a BMI of about 59 (4'9" and 280 lbs).

The tragedy of my dear sister actually inspired me to keep loosing weight and get my own surgery in June 2004. I lost around 60 pounds while her health was declining, had my surgery about a month after she went and I've lost an additional 70 pounds since surgery.

I'm cheering you on when I hear about you walking to work and keeping on track. I wish you only the best.

--Sandi H.

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Sandi, I'm so sorry to hear of your sister's passing. It's nice to know you were able to stay on track through that though and have your surgery. So many others may have crashed and burned after such a tragedy. But don't worry about me losing focus. Yes, I may stumble once in a while, but I will remain focused on my goal. Thanks for your encouragement!

Ron

Re: A couple things... Ron

Ron--I pray that you don't loose your focus. It sounds like you've come a long way already, you're starting to loose that excess weight.

Reading posts like yours make me want to share a sad part of my life, in hopes that my sadness will help bring goodness and encourgement.

Nearly 2 years ago I lost my older sister because she lost her battle with fat. She was trying to loose weight, had been approved for WLS through Richmond, but because she was unable to loose her 10% (I think it was because of an underactive thyroid) she apparently gave up trying. After nearly 3 months in hospitals, she finally went in her sleep with a BMI of about 59 (4'9" and 280 lbs).

The tragedy of my dear sister actually inspired me to keep loosing weight and get my own surgery in June 2004. I lost around 60 pounds while her health was declining, had my surgery about a month after she went and I've lost an additional 70 pounds since surgery.

I'm cheering you on when I hear about you walking to work and keeping on track. I wish you only the best.

--Sandi H.

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I hope you can, Ron. I started a water aerobics class at the local Y

about 2 weeks ago now, and it's been GREAT. Friday's class actually had

my upper-body muscles aching, because we had a different teacher than

normal, but I looked at that as a good thing - usually I can't " feel

the burn " because I can't move hard enough to get to that point.

Cathy C.

>

> Well I'll find a place and give it a go. Who knows? It might be the

best thing I've ever done for myself.

>

> Ron

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I hope you can, Ron. I started a water aerobics class at the local Y

about 2 weeks ago now, and it's been GREAT. Friday's class actually had

my upper-body muscles aching, because we had a different teacher than

normal, but I looked at that as a good thing - usually I can't " feel

the burn " because I can't move hard enough to get to that point.

Cathy C.

>

> Well I'll find a place and give it a go. Who knows? It might be the

best thing I've ever done for myself.

>

> Ron