Re: Re: Walking in Mercell vs shoes

[Guest guest]

The PM's are bent too, just at the ends of the bar itself and the bar

fits into the small sole at the heel flat so they end up pretty

flat. I do like them. But I never worried about Darbi walking in

her Markells either. We had both the gold and the red bar while she

wore them and both of them acted much the same as far as

tippyness. But she stood and walked around behind furniture and on

the furniture and on a whole lot of other things in them just

fine! I prefer the PM's for this reason but she was perfectly steady

in the others too. In fact, her balance is pretty darn good for her

age! She stands on so many things (including us!) and holds her

hands out to the side balancing... she thinks it's all a big game.

Kori

At 07:41 PM 10/4/2005, you wrote:

>We were seeing a doctor for the first 10 months of Brenden's life.

>He used the casting method (not very well) but we didn't know

>better. He had surgery when he was 6 months old with this doctor and

>was casted after that. But the casts would not stay on. He was then

>put into an AFO, and his foot seemed to get worse. So I started to

>look into other doctors and other methods to treat him. That is when

>I came upon this site and found out about Ponseti.

>We switched to our current doctor at that point. He is not an

>official Ponseti approved doctor, however he follows the methods to

>a T.

>

>This doctor started over basically with the castings. He was put

>under each time there was a cast change to get a good correction. I

>believe this made a huge difference. His foot looks incredible. We

>were thrilled when the final cast came off 3 weeks ago.

>

>The trouble I am having with the Mercells is the medal and the bar.

>His bar is red and is bent in the middle. He walks with them behind

>push toys on his tip toes basically, but because the bar is bent, he

>is like a weeble woble. It seems dangerous. I hate it when he tries

>to walk. The shoe just seems more practical and less

>dangerous. Plus more comfortable.

>

>We are seeing his doctor again tomorrow. I will talk to him about

>the various shoes.

>

>We are also going to the Shriners hospital in Chicago to get their

>opinion on his treatment thus far.

>

>

>

>

> > > My son is 16 months old and is currently in the Mercell shoes

>(yuck).

> > > I am hoping to get the s soon.

> > >

> > > My question is, are there any other little ones out there that

>can

> > > walk in these crazy shoes? Will the shoes be any easier

>for

> > > him to walk in???

> > >

> > > He started walking when he was 10 months old and wants to

>continue to

> > > walk desperately. But it is near impossible with the Mercell

>shoes. I

> > > am hoping the s will be easier. Am I all wet?? Or do

>these

> > > little guys figure it out after a while?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

The PM's are bent too, just at the ends of the bar itself and the bar

fits into the small sole at the heel flat so they end up pretty

flat. I do like them. But I never worried about Darbi walking in

her Markells either. We had both the gold and the red bar while she

wore them and both of them acted much the same as far as

tippyness. But she stood and walked around behind furniture and on

the furniture and on a whole lot of other things in them just

fine! I prefer the PM's for this reason but she was perfectly steady

in the others too. In fact, her balance is pretty darn good for her

age! She stands on so many things (including us!) and holds her

hands out to the side balancing... she thinks it's all a big game.

Kori

At 07:41 PM 10/4/2005, you wrote:

>We were seeing a doctor for the first 10 months of Brenden's life.

>He used the casting method (not very well) but we didn't know

>better. He had surgery when he was 6 months old with this doctor and

>was casted after that. But the casts would not stay on. He was then

>put into an AFO, and his foot seemed to get worse. So I started to

>look into other doctors and other methods to treat him. That is when

>I came upon this site and found out about Ponseti.

>We switched to our current doctor at that point. He is not an

>official Ponseti approved doctor, however he follows the methods to

>a T.

>

>This doctor started over basically with the castings. He was put

>under each time there was a cast change to get a good correction. I

>believe this made a huge difference. His foot looks incredible. We

>were thrilled when the final cast came off 3 weeks ago.

>

>The trouble I am having with the Mercells is the medal and the bar.

>His bar is red and is bent in the middle. He walks with them behind

>push toys on his tip toes basically, but because the bar is bent, he

>is like a weeble woble. It seems dangerous. I hate it when he tries

>to walk. The shoe just seems more practical and less

>dangerous. Plus more comfortable.

>

>We are seeing his doctor again tomorrow. I will talk to him about

>the various shoes.

>

>We are also going to the Shriners hospital in Chicago to get their

>opinion on his treatment thus far.

>

>

>

>

> > > My son is 16 months old and is currently in the Mercell shoes

>(yuck).

> > > I am hoping to get the s soon.

> > >

> > > My question is, are there any other little ones out there that

>can

> > > walk in these crazy shoes? Will the shoes be any easier

>for

> > > him to walk in???

> > >

> > > He started walking when he was 10 months old and wants to

>continue to

> > > walk desperately. But it is near impossible with the Mercell

>shoes. I

> > > am hoping the s will be easier. Am I all wet?? Or do

>these

> > > little guys figure it out after a while?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

She's 2.5yo and has been wearing her brace 12-14hr/d since she was

about 13 mo's old. She walked at 10 mo's while wearing the brace

16-18hr/d even! I plan on her going till at least 3yo and most

likely 3.5 just to be safe. Many children are wearing it till 4 or

perhaps even older now because there have been some relapses seen

that made Dr. Ponseti change the brace wear requirements a

bit. 3-1/2 - 4yo is the standard right now with 4 being the minimim

for most babes with feet that were more severe than mild. Since he's

so old and pretty much just getting started back on track now I would

think he'd be in the longer wear range. It'd certainly want to go to

that age if it were my child. It depends on severity and how he's

responded to treatment over the whole duration of the

bracing. They'll decide how long he stays in it probably at a later

date but I'd hazard a guess you're in for the 4y range. It sounds

like a long time but it really does go fast and it's so worth

it! You've seen first hand what a wonderful thing this method is as

compared to other treatments... just stick with it and you'll do

fine. It'll be over before you know it!

Oh, you may not have realized this but today was the very first time

she ever did that (although I have been encouraging it recently

because the older boy's school has carpet and we can practice a bit

in the am). So that means that she's been mostly crawling around in

her brace up till today. She crawls everywhere. Sometimes I don't

get how she gets into some spots! She's perfectly happy doing

so. Sure she's happy when I let her out of the shoes, but she's

totally fine crawling about the house and doesn't complain. I think

this is due in part (much due to actually...) to her being braced the

long hours for so long already. That sure helps when you

reduce... they view it as a little freedom rather than not enough

freedom if you know what I mean. She's so used to it that she has

nothing else to judge her experiences by and accepts that she must

wear her shoes till mama says she can have them off. I know it

helped when she was younger, 1yo's can be testy at times with sleep

and all. She never once complained at that age. She asks for them

off now, but when I tell her no she understands. Very unlike when I

tell her no for other things! hahaha!

Kori

Kori

At 07:49 PM 10/4/2005, you wrote:

>That is awesome! And very encouraging! Brenden wants to walk so bad.

>he walked in the last 3 casts. It was amazing. I'm just afraid for

>him to walk in these Mercells.

>

>I know what you mean about protecting yourself and the house from

>these shoes too. You have to watch your ankles when he crawls by.

>I've been wacked a ton of times and it has only been 3 weeks. My

>walls are getting hacked. After a week, we took down his crib and

>put a twin matress on the floor and put foam things all the way

>around 2 sides to protect the walls when he rolls at night. It

>doesn't look very nice in his room, but atleast he doesn't wake

>himself anymore and my walls won't have gouges!!

>

>How long has your child been in the shoes?? My doctor really hasn't

>said how long this whole process is going to take.

>

>

>

> > >My son is 16 months old and is currently in the Mercell shoes

>(yuck).

> > >I am hoping to get the s soon.

> > >

> > >My question is, are there any other little ones out there that can

> > >walk in these crazy shoes? Will the shoes be any easier

>for

> > >him to walk in???

> > >

> > >He started walking when he was 10 months old and wants to

>continue to

> > >walk desperately. But it is near impossible with the Mercell

>shoes. I

> > >am hoping the s will be easier. Am I all wet?? Or do these

> > >little guys figure it out after a while?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

She's 2.5yo and has been wearing her brace 12-14hr/d since she was

about 13 mo's old. She walked at 10 mo's while wearing the brace

16-18hr/d even! I plan on her going till at least 3yo and most

likely 3.5 just to be safe. Many children are wearing it till 4 or

perhaps even older now because there have been some relapses seen

that made Dr. Ponseti change the brace wear requirements a

bit. 3-1/2 - 4yo is the standard right now with 4 being the minimim

for most babes with feet that were more severe than mild. Since he's

so old and pretty much just getting started back on track now I would

think he'd be in the longer wear range. It'd certainly want to go to

that age if it were my child. It depends on severity and how he's

responded to treatment over the whole duration of the

bracing. They'll decide how long he stays in it probably at a later

date but I'd hazard a guess you're in for the 4y range. It sounds

like a long time but it really does go fast and it's so worth

it! You've seen first hand what a wonderful thing this method is as

compared to other treatments... just stick with it and you'll do

fine. It'll be over before you know it!

Oh, you may not have realized this but today was the very first time

she ever did that (although I have been encouraging it recently

because the older boy's school has carpet and we can practice a bit

in the am). So that means that she's been mostly crawling around in

her brace up till today. She crawls everywhere. Sometimes I don't

get how she gets into some spots! She's perfectly happy doing

so. Sure she's happy when I let her out of the shoes, but she's

totally fine crawling about the house and doesn't complain. I think

this is due in part (much due to actually...) to her being braced the

long hours for so long already. That sure helps when you

reduce... they view it as a little freedom rather than not enough

freedom if you know what I mean. She's so used to it that she has

nothing else to judge her experiences by and accepts that she must

wear her shoes till mama says she can have them off. I know it

helped when she was younger, 1yo's can be testy at times with sleep

and all. She never once complained at that age. She asks for them

off now, but when I tell her no she understands. Very unlike when I

tell her no for other things! hahaha!

Kori

Kori

At 07:49 PM 10/4/2005, you wrote:

>That is awesome! And very encouraging! Brenden wants to walk so bad.

>he walked in the last 3 casts. It was amazing. I'm just afraid for

>him to walk in these Mercells.

>

>I know what you mean about protecting yourself and the house from

>these shoes too. You have to watch your ankles when he crawls by.

>I've been wacked a ton of times and it has only been 3 weeks. My

>walls are getting hacked. After a week, we took down his crib and

>put a twin matress on the floor and put foam things all the way

>around 2 sides to protect the walls when he rolls at night. It

>doesn't look very nice in his room, but atleast he doesn't wake

>himself anymore and my walls won't have gouges!!

>

>How long has your child been in the shoes?? My doctor really hasn't

>said how long this whole process is going to take.

>

>

>

> > >My son is 16 months old and is currently in the Mercell shoes

>(yuck).

> > >I am hoping to get the s soon.

> > >

> > >My question is, are there any other little ones out there that can

> > >walk in these crazy shoes? Will the shoes be any easier

>for

> > >him to walk in???

> > >

> > >He started walking when he was 10 months old and wants to

>continue to

> > >walk desperately. But it is near impossible with the Mercell

>shoes. I

> > >am hoping the s will be easier. Am I all wet?? Or do these

> > >little guys figure it out after a while?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

i think all these bars are straight initially and the orthotist bends

them when you get them fitted. So theoretically they all could be

bent at each end only. Ours always were but they still could have

been put the bend further out. I've seen some of the bars actually

rounded to achieve the dorsiflexion or bent at the center like a V

even. Quite honestly, what they're thinking doing that over making a

nice flat area for the child to stand in is beyond my

comprehension. Sometimes I wonder what some of these orthotists are

thinking when they come up with some of these wacky ways to set up

the FAB. I am positive that the standard gold bars come straight,

and from the pics from Markell's website of the adjustable gold bar

they too are straight and need bending. Although I could be wrong

having not actually seen one personally. If you want the bends to be

closer to the shoes you should ask the orthotists to do it that way

for you, hopefully they don't throw fits lol~!

Kori

10/5/2005, you wrote:

>Glad to hear that Brenden is now on the right track!! Not sure if

>someone has mentioned this already but there is a gold adjustable bar

>available that is just bent on the ends for dorsiflexion. We use it

>and it is totally flat along the length. There is a pic of it in the

>photo's section under the file grace. We are really happy with it.

>They have also now come out with a thicker one which we will get for

>Grace with her next shoes. You may want to look at getting this bar

>instead, it also allows you to unscrew the shoes by hand and move

>them very easily.

>

> & Grace

>

>

> > > > My son is 16 months old and is currently in the Mercell shoes

> > (yuck).

> > > > I am hoping to get the s soon.

> > > >

> > > > My question is, are there any other little ones out there that

> > can

> > > > walk in these crazy shoes? Will the shoes be any

>easier

> > for

> > > > him to walk in???

> > > >

> > > > He started walking when he was 10 months old and wants to

> > continue to

> > > > walk desperately. But it is near impossible with the Mercell

> > shoes. I

> > > > am hoping the s will be easier. Am I all wet?? Or do

> > these

> > > > little guys figure it out after a while?

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

The bar is bent at 10 degrees at each tip, to tip the toes up

correctly, but otherwise the bar is flat.

s.

Re: Re: Walking in Mercell vs shoes

So I don't think the P/M's come bent either (unless there's something

I'm missing). Our orthotics folks won't bend the bar. I asked, they refused,

and then I just tried to stopped worrying about it since Lily's dorsiflexion

is still so fantastic (better than on her non-cf). But this email discussion

has me worried again. Why doesn't bend them?

How handy do you have to be to do it yourself?

Kim

Naomi wrote:

The gold bars (both the adjustable and the non-adjustable) most

certainly do come from the manufacturer/distributor perfectly flat.

We've wound up having to bend 2 of Jonah's bars ourselves (one time

as the result of the orthotist throwing a real fit about us insisting

on having a longer bar than *he* thought Jonah needed. Like he's the

one who has to listen to the kid cry and tell us his legs are

hurting. Anyway.). Good thing my DH is so handy.

Jonah's first bar--gold, non-adjustable--had a curving bend in the

middle which was very unstable for standing on. Since then, we have

made sure that we get the bends at each end so that he has a flat

surface to stand on.

I've recently seen several pictures of children in bars that were not

bent at all. Oops. Including one where the parents were worried

about their son loosing dorsiflexion. You mean there's a reason

these things are set up the way they are???

OK, OK. Enough from me.

Naomi

The Family

Naomi Hannah(02/21/01) Jonah(06/20/03, corrected bilateral

clubfoot, FAB 14/7)

> i think all these bars are straight initially and the orthotist

bends

> them when you get them fitted. So theoretically they all could be

> bent at each end only. Ours always were but they still could have

> been put the bend further out. I've seen some of the bars actually

> rounded to achieve the dorsiflexion or bent at the center like a V

> even. Quite honestly, what they're thinking doing that over making

a

> nice flat area for the child to stand in is beyond my

> comprehension. Sometimes I wonder what some of these orthotists

are

> thinking when they come up with some of these wacky ways to set up

> the FAB. I am positive that the standard gold bars come straight,

> and from the pics from Markell's website of the adjustable gold bar

> they too are straight and need bending. Although I could be wrong

> having not actually seen one personally. If you want the bends to

be

> closer to the shoes you should ask the orthotists to do it that way

> for you, hopefully they don't throw fits lol~!

>

> Kori

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

You're welcome - it's not that I'm a know it all, I just remember long ago when

I got my first shoes/bar there was this whole discussion. I thought

the bar was flat too and someone pointed it out to me and then I noticed. I

don't know about the hole in the tongue, is it to slip the middle strap through?

s.

Thanks for correcting me, ee! Looking at Lily's

bar, I don't even notice this. But 10 degrees isn't

that much, so I suppose it's there.

[Guest guest]

I wonder if other baby birth defect support sites are like ours - where we know

as much or more than a lot of the doctors. Just remember I came to

this site an ignorant mother with a messed up kid as did we all. After five

years I still continue to learn here all the time.

s.

Re: Re: Walking in Mercell vs shoes

I was hoping I was wrong about the P/M bar not being bent

& that someone would correct me! So I was happy to see your

email, ee!! (sorry if my response sounded otherwise)

The hole in the tongue is about the same size as the holes

in the straps for the buckle. Not sure if it's supposed to

be a center marker, or there to help us line up the tongue

with the strap, or something .... When I first saw it I

thought that or Todd must have inadvertently punched

through it when punching the straps. But then I noticed

it was that way on both shoes & figured out that it was

intentional.

Anyway, I'm constantly reminded how blessed Lily is that

her mama has all of you veteran cf moms to run to with

questions. Thanks to all of you who take time out to help us!!

Don't know where we'd be without out you. Funny, our doc

is always asking me questions re. the correct Ponseti protocol

because he knows all of you keep me up to speed. He's

on Ponseti's list & still all of you seem to be his most up-to-date

source of info.

Kim

number23 wrote:

You're welcome - it's not that I'm a know it all, I just remember long ago when

I got my first shoes/bar there was this whole discussion. I thought

the bar was flat too and someone pointed it out to me and then I noticed. I

don't know about the hole in the tongue, is it to slip the middle strap through?

s.

Thanks for correcting me, ee! Looking at Lily's

bar, I don't even notice this. But 10 degrees isn't

that much, so I suppose it's there.

[Guest guest]

I wonder if other baby birth defect support sites are like ours - where we know

as much or more than a lot of the doctors. Just remember I came to

this site an ignorant mother with a messed up kid as did we all. After five

years I still continue to learn here all the time.

s.

Re: Re: Walking in Mercell vs shoes

I was hoping I was wrong about the P/M bar not being bent

& that someone would correct me! So I was happy to see your

email, ee!! (sorry if my response sounded otherwise)

The hole in the tongue is about the same size as the holes

in the straps for the buckle. Not sure if it's supposed to

be a center marker, or there to help us line up the tongue

with the strap, or something .... When I first saw it I

thought that or Todd must have inadvertently punched

through it when punching the straps. But then I noticed

it was that way on both shoes & figured out that it was

intentional.

Anyway, I'm constantly reminded how blessed Lily is that

her mama has all of you veteran cf moms to run to with

questions. Thanks to all of you who take time out to help us!!

Don't know where we'd be without out you. Funny, our doc

is always asking me questions re. the correct Ponseti protocol

because he knows all of you keep me up to speed. He's

on Ponseti's list & still all of you seem to be his most up-to-date

source of info.

Kim

number23 wrote:

You're welcome - it's not that I'm a know it all, I just remember long ago when

I got my first shoes/bar there was this whole discussion. I thought

the bar was flat too and someone pointed it out to me and then I noticed. I

don't know about the hole in the tongue, is it to slip the middle strap through?

s.

Thanks for correcting me, ee! Looking at Lily's

bar, I don't even notice this. But 10 degrees isn't

that much, so I suppose it's there.

[Guest guest]

So I don't think the P/M's come bent either (unless there's something

I'm missing). Our orthotics folks won't bend the bar. I asked, they refused,

and then I just tried to stopped worrying about it since Lily's dorsiflexion

is still so fantastic (better than on her non-cf). But this email discussion

has me worried again. Why doesn't bend them?

How handy do you have to be to do it yourself?

Kim

Naomi wrote:

The gold bars (both the adjustable and the non-adjustable) most

certainly do come from the manufacturer/distributor perfectly flat.

We've wound up having to bend 2 of Jonah's bars ourselves (one time

as the result of the orthotist throwing a real fit about us insisting

on having a longer bar than *he* thought Jonah needed. Like he's the

one who has to listen to the kid cry and tell us his legs are

hurting. Anyway.). Good thing my DH is so handy.

Jonah's first bar--gold, non-adjustable--had a curving bend in the

middle which was very unstable for standing on. Since then, we have

made sure that we get the bends at each end so that he has a flat

surface to stand on.

I've recently seen several pictures of children in bars that were not

bent at all. Oops. Including one where the parents were worried

about their son loosing dorsiflexion. You mean there's a reason

these things are set up the way they are???

OK, OK. Enough from me.

Naomi

The Family

Naomi Hannah(02/21/01) Jonah(06/20/03, corrected bilateral

clubfoot, FAB 14/7)

> i think all these bars are straight initially and the orthotist

bends

> them when you get them fitted. So theoretically they all could be

> bent at each end only. Ours always were but they still could have

> been put the bend further out. I've seen some of the bars actually

> rounded to achieve the dorsiflexion or bent at the center like a V

> even. Quite honestly, what they're thinking doing that over making

a

> nice flat area for the child to stand in is beyond my

> comprehension. Sometimes I wonder what some of these orthotists

are

> thinking when they come up with some of these wacky ways to set up

> the FAB. I am positive that the standard gold bars come straight,

> and from the pics from Markell's website of the adjustable gold bar

> they too are straight and need bending. Although I could be wrong

> having not actually seen one personally. If you want the bends to

be

> closer to the shoes you should ask the orthotists to do it that way

> for you, hopefully they don't throw fits lol~!

>

> Kori

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I was hoping I was wrong about the P/M bar not being bent

& that someone would correct me! So I was happy to see your

email, ee!! (sorry if my response sounded otherwise)

The hole in the tongue is about the same size as the holes

in the straps for the buckle. Not sure if it's supposed to

be a center marker, or there to help us line up the tongue

with the strap, or something .... When I first saw it I

thought that or Todd must have inadvertently punched

through it when punching the straps. But then I noticed

it was that way on both shoes & figured out that it was

intentional.

Anyway, I'm constantly reminded how blessed Lily is that

her mama has all of you veteran cf moms to run to with

questions. Thanks to all of you who take time out to help us!!

Don't know where we'd be without out you. Funny, our doc

is always asking me questions re. the correct Ponseti protocol

because he knows all of you keep me up to speed. He's

on Ponseti's list & still all of you seem to be his most up-to-date

source of info.

Kim

number23 wrote:

You're welcome - it's not that I'm a know it all, I just remember long ago when

I got my first shoes/bar there was this whole discussion. I thought

the bar was flat too and someone pointed it out to me and then I noticed. I

don't know about the hole in the tongue, is it to slip the middle strap through?

s.

Thanks for correcting me, ee! Looking at Lily's

bar, I don't even notice this. But 10 degrees isn't

that much, so I suppose it's there.

[Guest guest]

I was hoping I was wrong about the P/M bar not being bent

& that someone would correct me! So I was happy to see your

email, ee!! (sorry if my response sounded otherwise)

The hole in the tongue is about the same size as the holes

in the straps for the buckle. Not sure if it's supposed to

be a center marker, or there to help us line up the tongue

with the strap, or something .... When I first saw it I

thought that or Todd must have inadvertently punched

through it when punching the straps. But then I noticed

it was that way on both shoes & figured out that it was

intentional.

Anyway, I'm constantly reminded how blessed Lily is that

her mama has all of you veteran cf moms to run to with

questions. Thanks to all of you who take time out to help us!!

Don't know where we'd be without out you. Funny, our doc

is always asking me questions re. the correct Ponseti protocol

because he knows all of you keep me up to speed. He's

on Ponseti's list & still all of you seem to be his most up-to-date

source of info.

Kim

number23 wrote:

You're welcome - it's not that I'm a know it all, I just remember long ago when

I got my first shoes/bar there was this whole discussion. I thought

the bar was flat too and someone pointed it out to me and then I noticed. I

don't know about the hole in the tongue, is it to slip the middle strap through?

s.

Thanks for correcting me, ee! Looking at Lily's

bar, I don't even notice this. But 10 degrees isn't

that much, so I suppose it's there.

[Guest guest]

told me last night that he puts the glue on these new shoes with

the rivets to hold it in place while they put the rivets in. I

wonder if the hole is for positioning during assembly as well?

More about my talk with later. Was a good one.

Kori

At 02:07 PM 10/6/2005, you wrote:

>I was hoping I was wrong about the P/M bar not being bent

> & that someone would correct me! So I was happy to see your

>email, ee!! (sorry if my response sounded otherwise)

>

>The hole in the tongue is about the same size as the holes

>in the straps for the buckle. Not sure if it's supposed to

>be a center marker, or there to help us line up the tongue

>with the strap, or something .... When I first saw it I

>thought that or Todd must have inadvertently punched

>through it when punching the straps. But then I noticed

>it was that way on both shoes & figured out that it was

>intentional.

>

>Anyway, I'm constantly reminded how blessed Lily is that

>her mama has all of you veteran cf moms to run to with

>questions. Thanks to all of you who take time out to help us!!

>Don't know where we'd be without out you. Funny, our doc

>is always asking me questions re. the correct Ponseti protocol

>because he knows all of you keep me up to speed. He's

>on Ponseti's list & still all of you seem to be his most up-to-date

>source of info.

>

>Kim

>

>number23 wrote:

>You're welcome - it's not that I'm a know it all, I just remember

>long ago when I got my first shoes/bar there was this whole

>discussion. I thought the bar was flat too and someone pointed it

>out to me and then I noticed. I don't know about the hole in the

>tongue, is it to slip the middle strap through?

>s.

>

>Thanks for correcting me, ee! Looking at Lily's

>bar, I don't even notice this. But 10 degrees isn't

>that much, so I suppose it's there.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

told me last night that he puts the glue on these new shoes with

the rivets to hold it in place while they put the rivets in. I

wonder if the hole is for positioning during assembly as well?

More about my talk with later. Was a good one.

Kori

At 02:07 PM 10/6/2005, you wrote:

>I was hoping I was wrong about the P/M bar not being bent

> & that someone would correct me! So I was happy to see your

>email, ee!! (sorry if my response sounded otherwise)

>

>The hole in the tongue is about the same size as the holes

>in the straps for the buckle. Not sure if it's supposed to

>be a center marker, or there to help us line up the tongue

>with the strap, or something .... When I first saw it I

>thought that or Todd must have inadvertently punched

>through it when punching the straps. But then I noticed

>it was that way on both shoes & figured out that it was

>intentional.

>

>Anyway, I'm constantly reminded how blessed Lily is that

>her mama has all of you veteran cf moms to run to with

>questions. Thanks to all of you who take time out to help us!!

>Don't know where we'd be without out you. Funny, our doc

>is always asking me questions re. the correct Ponseti protocol

>because he knows all of you keep me up to speed. He's

>on Ponseti's list & still all of you seem to be his most up-to-date

>source of info.

>

>Kim

>

>number23 wrote:

>You're welcome - it's not that I'm a know it all, I just remember

>long ago when I got my first shoes/bar there was this whole

>discussion. I thought the bar was flat too and someone pointed it

>out to me and then I noticed. I don't know about the hole in the

>tongue, is it to slip the middle strap through?

>s.

>

>Thanks for correcting me, ee! Looking at Lily's

>bar, I don't even notice this. But 10 degrees isn't

>that much, so I suppose it's there.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

At 09:02 PM 10/6/2005, you wrote:

>I figure that they must not have kids because they just don't sound

>like they get it! We lucked out with our Orthotist, she has right

>unilateral and is just wonderful! I didn't even know that the

>Markell's didn't come with a hole cut in them (now they do) until

>recently, she cuts a hole in all the shoes so you can see if the heel

>is down, gotta love her!

LOL, well you know, I now love this woman! Hole Choppers Unite! My

kinda gal :-*

> & Grace

>

>

> > > > > > > > My son is 16 months old and is currently in the Mercell

> > > shoes

> > > > > > (yuck).

> > > > > > > > I am hoping to get the s soon.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > My question is, are there any other little ones out

> > there

> > > that

> > > > > > can

> > > > > > > > walk in these crazy shoes? Will the shoes be

>any

> > > > >easier

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > him to walk in???

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > He started walking when he was 10 months old and wants

>to

> > > > > > continue to

> > > > > > > > walk desperately. But it is near impossible with the

> > Mercell

> > > > > > shoes. I

> > > > > > > > am hoping the s will be easier. Am I all wet??

> > Or do

> > > > > > these

> > > > > > > > little guys figure it out after a while?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

At 09:02 PM 10/6/2005, you wrote:

>I figure that they must not have kids because they just don't sound

>like they get it! We lucked out with our Orthotist, she has right

>unilateral and is just wonderful! I didn't even know that the

>Markell's didn't come with a hole cut in them (now they do) until

>recently, she cuts a hole in all the shoes so you can see if the heel

>is down, gotta love her!

LOL, well you know, I now love this woman! Hole Choppers Unite! My

kinda gal :-*

> & Grace

>

>

> > > > > > > > My son is 16 months old and is currently in the Mercell

> > > shoes

> > > > > > (yuck).

> > > > > > > > I am hoping to get the s soon.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > My question is, are there any other little ones out

> > there

> > > that

> > > > > > can

> > > > > > > > walk in these crazy shoes? Will the shoes be

>any

> > > > >easier

> > > > > > for

> > > > > > > > him to walk in???

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > He started walking when he was 10 months old and wants

>to

> > > > > > continue to

> > > > > > > > walk desperately. But it is near impossible with the

> > Mercell

> > > > > > shoes. I

> > > > > > > > am hoping the s will be easier. Am I all wet??

> > Or do

> > > > > > these

> > > > > > > > little guys figure it out after a while?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

[Guest guest]

And frighteningly kinky! LOL!

-----Hole Choppers Unite!

I don't know Kori....sounds kinda scary...

[Guest guest]

And frighteningly kinky! LOL!

-----Hole Choppers Unite!

I don't know Kori....sounds kinda scary...