Re: Fatalities ..........YES,......BUT..................................

[Guest guest]

Yes, I have looked at that page many times, and read those poor souls

web pages and comments...very, very sobbering. But LIFE is not to be

lived by the scared, good things come to those who are able to seek

them out, then take them for

themselves.

Those people who died during or after WLS surely leave behind very

sad and grieving families. To be MORBIDLY OBESE and not reach out for

the strongest help and then die is for me....sadder still.

I assume most on this list realize the risks. Most on this list

balance that with staying MORBIDLY OBESE....a state in which a

shorter life span is all but assured, and then make their

choice.

Yes, it is wise and normal to be apprehensive, but weigh the small

risks with the huge pluses WLS can bring.

Choose your surgeon very, very carefully, be informed, stay positive,

do not run scarred!

Will see YOU on the other side.

DAN BERMAN

> Wow.

>

> I've been rather gung ho lately about the idea of WLS...couldn't

wait

> to get going. But today I was cruising one of the sites,

ObesityHelp

> perhaps? Anyhow, they had a list of all of the WLS fatalities.

> Admittedly, it's difficult sometimes to know how many died as a

> direct result of the surgery, but for sure, some did.

>

> I just kept putting myself in their situations, reading their posts

> before they died....they sounded just like I do now. And suddenly,

> I'm doubting the wisdom of this idea. Am I being drawn in by the

> promise of a (relatively) quick fix? Maybe I should try just ONE

> MORE TIME to do it the old fashioned way? I'm coming to the

> conclusion that in order to feel well, many of the DS'ers are

eating

> a diet virtually identical to Atkins. So is the only real

advantage

> to the WLS that you HAVE to eat a certain way? If I HAD to stick

to

> Atkins for 12-18 months, I'd lose mucho weight too.....

>

> Sorry if this is rambling, I guess I'm just going through a natural

> phase of doubt. Anyone else feel this way?

>

> Joe in Vermont

> Doing the research...

> Consult w/ Gagner in October

> BMI 56

[Guest guest]

Yes, I have looked at that page many times, and read those poor souls

web pages and comments...very, very sobbering. But LIFE is not to be

lived by the scared, good things come to those who are able to seek

them out, then take them for

themselves.

Those people who died during or after WLS surely leave behind very

sad and grieving families. To be MORBIDLY OBESE and not reach out for

the strongest help and then die is for me....sadder still.

I assume most on this list realize the risks. Most on this list

balance that with staying MORBIDLY OBESE....a state in which a

shorter life span is all but assured, and then make their

choice.

Yes, it is wise and normal to be apprehensive, but weigh the small

risks with the huge pluses WLS can bring.

Choose your surgeon very, very carefully, be informed, stay positive,

do not run scarred!

Will see YOU on the other side.

DAN BERMAN

> Wow.

>

> I've been rather gung ho lately about the idea of WLS...couldn't

wait

> to get going. But today I was cruising one of the sites,

ObesityHelp

> perhaps? Anyhow, they had a list of all of the WLS fatalities.

> Admittedly, it's difficult sometimes to know how many died as a

> direct result of the surgery, but for sure, some did.

>

> I just kept putting myself in their situations, reading their posts

> before they died....they sounded just like I do now. And suddenly,

> I'm doubting the wisdom of this idea. Am I being drawn in by the

> promise of a (relatively) quick fix? Maybe I should try just ONE

> MORE TIME to do it the old fashioned way? I'm coming to the

> conclusion that in order to feel well, many of the DS'ers are

eating

> a diet virtually identical to Atkins. So is the only real

advantage

> to the WLS that you HAVE to eat a certain way? If I HAD to stick

to

> Atkins for 12-18 months, I'd lose mucho weight too.....

>

> Sorry if this is rambling, I guess I'm just going through a natural

> phase of doubt. Anyone else feel this way?

>

> Joe in Vermont

> Doing the research...

> Consult w/ Gagner in October

> BMI 56

[Guest guest]

Dan,

Do you think that it is foolish to choose a surgeon who has yet to do

the BPD-DS? My surgeon has done plenty of RNY but has yet to the BPD-DS. I

will be among his first. What would you do?

Re: Fatalities

...........YES,......BUT..................................

> Yes, I have looked at that page many times, and read those poor souls

> web pages and comments...very, very sobbering. But LIFE is not to be

> lived by the scared, good things come to those who are able to seek

> them out, then take them for

> themselves.

>

> Those people who died during or after WLS surely leave behind very

> sad and grieving families. To be MORBIDLY OBESE and not reach out for

> the strongest help and then die is for me....sadder still.

> I assume most on this list realize the risks. Most on this list

> balance that with staying MORBIDLY OBESE....a state in which a

> shorter life span is all but assured, and then make their

> choice.

>

> Yes, it is wise and normal to be apprehensive, but weigh the small

> risks with the huge pluses WLS can bring.

>

> Choose your surgeon very, very carefully, be informed, stay positive,

> do not run scarred!

>

> Will see YOU on the other side.

>

>

> DAN BERMAN

>

> > Wow.

> >

> > I've been rather gung ho lately about the idea of WLS...couldn't

> wait

> > to get going. But today I was cruising one of the sites,

> ObesityHelp

> > perhaps? Anyhow, they had a list of all of the WLS fatalities.

> > Admittedly, it's difficult sometimes to know how many died as a

> > direct result of the surgery, but for sure, some did.

> >

> > I just kept putting myself in their situations, reading their posts

> > before they died....they sounded just like I do now. And suddenly,

> > I'm doubting the wisdom of this idea. Am I being drawn in by the

> > promise of a (relatively) quick fix? Maybe I should try just ONE

> > MORE TIME to do it the old fashioned way? I'm coming to the

> > conclusion that in order to feel well, many of the DS'ers are

> eating

> > a diet virtually identical to Atkins. So is the only real

> advantage

> > to the WLS that you HAVE to eat a certain way? If I HAD to stick

> to

> > Atkins for 12-18 months, I'd lose mucho weight too.....

> >

> > Sorry if this is rambling, I guess I'm just going through a natural

> > phase of doubt. Anyone else feel this way?

> >

> > Joe in Vermont

> > Doing the research...

> > Consult w/ Gagner in October

> > BMI 56

>

>

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

Dan,

Do you think that it is foolish to choose a surgeon who has yet to do

the BPD-DS? My surgeon has done plenty of RNY but has yet to the BPD-DS. I

will be among his first. What would you do?

Re: Fatalities

...........YES,......BUT..................................

> Yes, I have looked at that page many times, and read those poor souls

> web pages and comments...very, very sobbering. But LIFE is not to be

> lived by the scared, good things come to those who are able to seek

> them out, then take them for

> themselves.

>

> Those people who died during or after WLS surely leave behind very

> sad and grieving families. To be MORBIDLY OBESE and not reach out for

> the strongest help and then die is for me....sadder still.

> I assume most on this list realize the risks. Most on this list

> balance that with staying MORBIDLY OBESE....a state in which a

> shorter life span is all but assured, and then make their

> choice.

>

> Yes, it is wise and normal to be apprehensive, but weigh the small

> risks with the huge pluses WLS can bring.

>

> Choose your surgeon very, very carefully, be informed, stay positive,

> do not run scarred!

>

> Will see YOU on the other side.

>

>

> DAN BERMAN

>

> > Wow.

> >

> > I've been rather gung ho lately about the idea of WLS...couldn't

> wait

> > to get going. But today I was cruising one of the sites,

> ObesityHelp

> > perhaps? Anyhow, they had a list of all of the WLS fatalities.

> > Admittedly, it's difficult sometimes to know how many died as a

> > direct result of the surgery, but for sure, some did.

> >

> > I just kept putting myself in their situations, reading their posts

> > before they died....they sounded just like I do now. And suddenly,

> > I'm doubting the wisdom of this idea. Am I being drawn in by the

> > promise of a (relatively) quick fix? Maybe I should try just ONE

> > MORE TIME to do it the old fashioned way? I'm coming to the

> > conclusion that in order to feel well, many of the DS'ers are

> eating

> > a diet virtually identical to Atkins. So is the only real

> advantage

> > to the WLS that you HAVE to eat a certain way? If I HAD to stick

> to

> > Atkins for 12-18 months, I'd lose mucho weight too.....

> >

> > Sorry if this is rambling, I guess I'm just going through a natural

> > phase of doubt. Anyone else feel this way?

> >

> > Joe in Vermont

> > Doing the research...

> > Consult w/ Gagner in October

> > BMI 56

>

>

> ----------------------------------------------------------------------

>

[Guest guest]

For me.....I would pick the most experienced, best results surgeon

who specializes in the specific procedure within my geographic and

monetary limits....for me.

Of course many excellent surgeons have to " start " on someone.... " I "

was just not going to be that person. Scarey enough as is, with the

best, let alone otherwise

JMHO

DAN

> Dan,

> Do you think that it is foolish to choose a surgeon who has yet

to do

> the BPD-DS? My surgeon has done plenty of RNY but has yet to the

BPD-DS. I

> will be among his first. What would you do?

> Re: Fatalities

> ..........YES,......BUT..................................

>

>

> > Yes, I have looked at that page many times, and read those poor

souls

> > web pages and comments...very, very sobbering. But LIFE is not to

be

> > lived by the scared, good things come to those who are able to

seek

> > them out, then take them for

> > themselves.

> >

> > Those people who died during or after WLS surely leave behind very

> > sad and grieving families. To be MORBIDLY OBESE and not reach out

for

> > the strongest help and then die is for me....sadder still.

> > I assume most on this list realize the risks. Most on this list

> > balance that with staying MORBIDLY OBESE....a state in which a

> > shorter life span is all but assured, and then make their

> > choice.

> >

> > Yes, it is wise and normal to be apprehensive, but weigh the

small

> > risks with the huge pluses WLS can bring.

> >

> > Choose your surgeon very, very carefully, be informed, stay

positive,

> > do not run scarred!

> >

> > Will see YOU on the other side.

> >

> >

> > DAN BERMAN

> >

> > > Wow.

> > >

> > > I've been rather gung ho lately about the idea of WLS...couldn't

> > wait

> > > to get going. But today I was cruising one of the sites,

> > ObesityHelp

> > > perhaps? Anyhow, they had a list of all of the WLS fatalities.

> > > Admittedly, it's difficult sometimes to know how many died as a

> > > direct result of the surgery, but for sure, some did.

> > >

> > > I just kept putting myself in their situations, reading their

posts

> > > before they died....they sounded just like I do now. And

suddenly,

> > > I'm doubting the wisdom of this idea. Am I being drawn in by

the

> > > promise of a (relatively) quick fix? Maybe I should try just

ONE

> > > MORE TIME to do it the old fashioned way? I'm coming to the

> > > conclusion that in order to feel well, many of the DS'ers are

> > eating

> > > a diet virtually identical to Atkins. So is the only real

> > advantage

> > > to the WLS that you HAVE to eat a certain way? If I HAD to

stick

> > to

> > > Atkins for 12-18 months, I'd lose mucho weight too.....

> > >

> > > Sorry if this is rambling, I guess I'm just going through a

natural

> > > phase of doubt. Anyone else feel this way?

> > >

> > > Joe in Vermont

> > > Doing the research...

> > > Consult w/ Gagner in October

> > > BMI 56

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------

----

> >

[Guest guest]

For me.....I would pick the most experienced, best results surgeon

who specializes in the specific procedure within my geographic and

monetary limits....for me.

Of course many excellent surgeons have to " start " on someone.... " I "

was just not going to be that person. Scarey enough as is, with the

best, let alone otherwise

JMHO

DAN

> Dan,

> Do you think that it is foolish to choose a surgeon who has yet

to do

> the BPD-DS? My surgeon has done plenty of RNY but has yet to the

BPD-DS. I

> will be among his first. What would you do?

> Re: Fatalities

> ..........YES,......BUT..................................

>

>

> > Yes, I have looked at that page many times, and read those poor

souls

> > web pages and comments...very, very sobbering. But LIFE is not to

be

> > lived by the scared, good things come to those who are able to

seek

> > them out, then take them for

> > themselves.

> >

> > Those people who died during or after WLS surely leave behind very

> > sad and grieving families. To be MORBIDLY OBESE and not reach out

for

> > the strongest help and then die is for me....sadder still.

> > I assume most on this list realize the risks. Most on this list

> > balance that with staying MORBIDLY OBESE....a state in which a

> > shorter life span is all but assured, and then make their

> > choice.

> >

> > Yes, it is wise and normal to be apprehensive, but weigh the

small

> > risks with the huge pluses WLS can bring.

> >

> > Choose your surgeon very, very carefully, be informed, stay

positive,

> > do not run scarred!

> >

> > Will see YOU on the other side.

> >

> >

> > DAN BERMAN

> >

> > > Wow.

> > >

> > > I've been rather gung ho lately about the idea of WLS...couldn't

> > wait

> > > to get going. But today I was cruising one of the sites,

> > ObesityHelp

> > > perhaps? Anyhow, they had a list of all of the WLS fatalities.

> > > Admittedly, it's difficult sometimes to know how many died as a

> > > direct result of the surgery, but for sure, some did.

> > >

> > > I just kept putting myself in their situations, reading their

posts

> > > before they died....they sounded just like I do now. And

suddenly,

> > > I'm doubting the wisdom of this idea. Am I being drawn in by

the

> > > promise of a (relatively) quick fix? Maybe I should try just

ONE

> > > MORE TIME to do it the old fashioned way? I'm coming to the

> > > conclusion that in order to feel well, many of the DS'ers are

> > eating

> > > a diet virtually identical to Atkins. So is the only real

> > advantage

> > > to the WLS that you HAVE to eat a certain way? If I HAD to

stick

> > to

> > > Atkins for 12-18 months, I'd lose mucho weight too.....

> > >

> > > Sorry if this is rambling, I guess I'm just going through a

natural

> > > phase of doubt. Anyone else feel this way?

> > >

> > > Joe in Vermont

> > > Doing the research...

> > > Consult w/ Gagner in October

> > > BMI 56

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------

----

> >