Re: another question or ?????'s

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In a message dated 08/26/2001 1:53:21 PM Central Daylight Time,

jhensel@... writes:

> As far as the oder goes.....

Are you asking about bm odor or body odor???

bm odor is distinct and more lingering. No body odor problems.

Dawn----South suburban chicago area

Dr. Hess, Bowling Green, OH

BPD/DS

4/27/00

www.duodenalswitch.com

267 to 165 5' 4 "

size 22 to size 10

have made size goal

no more high blood pressure, sore feet, or dieting!

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In a message dated 8/26/01 3:04:08 PM, duodenalswitch writes:

<<

I am a 40/41 BMI depending on the days weight. Does this make getting the

DS harder?

>>

this *may* make it more difficult for many surgeons to suggest the DS.... or

agree to one. In general, I think the less conservative surgeons are more

comfortable in the bmi 45 and up range, but I have known QUITE A FEW people

with lower bmis (in the low 40's and even under 40) who have had the DS

performed here in NYC (with Dr. Gagner and Dr. Ren). So, it certainly isn't

impossible. I think they may adjust and make the common channel a little

longer than 100 cm or leave it at 100 cm.... nothing shorter.

I think the important factor is that you are educated about the surgery.

There are many experienced surgeons here in NYC (and I've heard of quite a

few in CA and also in between). I would write them first to see their 'take

on things' but certainly speak with a qualified and experienced DS surgeon

first. I'm so glad you walked out of the other surgeon's office!

all the best,

lap ds with gallbladder removal

January 25, 2001

Dr. Gagner/Mt. Sinai/NYC

seven months post-op and still feelin' fabu!

preop: 307 lbs/bmi 45

now: 224

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Franli

The oil spill affect, is for a few who after DS their bodies don't absorb

fats--so the stool has actual oil globules in it. FOr most this goes away

and the oil mixes with the stool.

But for poor Steve--he has to wear a maxi pad to catch erroneous leaks

otherwise his clothes are stained orange.

This isn't a side affect that is common--or as severe as Steve's.

Hope this explains it.

Pammi

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Franli

The oil spill affect, is for a few who after DS their bodies don't absorb

fats--so the stool has actual oil globules in it. FOr most this goes away

and the oil mixes with the stool.

But for poor Steve--he has to wear a maxi pad to catch erroneous leaks

otherwise his clothes are stained orange.

This isn't a side affect that is common--or as severe as Steve's.

Hope this explains it.

Pammi

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another question or ?????'s

> Thanks everyone for the sugar information. I can see that this research

> will take some time. But you all sure have my attention about the DS vs

> RNY.

>

> This one is sort of stupid I think but if your surgery is covered but you

> have to go out of state to get it are any of those expenses covered?

I didnt look into that but I do know if you are on medicaid they do pay your

expenses and that includes airfaire and motel and food etc!! Even for pre

opt testing or whatever before the surgery!

>

> There are no surgeons listed for Colorado so I might not even get to

> choose the DS.

No DS surgeons in the state of Idaho where Im from either.....we traveled to

Portland, Oregon to get it done. Would do that again to get the very best

there is to offer!

I have a friend in Fort and she settled for the RNY and regrets it

to this day.....

>

> I am a 40/41 BMI depending on the days weight. Does this make getting the

> DS harder?

My BMI was 42.......I had no problems!

>

> Ok, will someone bottom line me with the oil spill effect???? What are

you

> all really talking about even though you joke. Is the body odor really

> problem?

The oil spill effect is when you overload your system with fats and then you

let wind and an orange slick covers your underwear and sometimes you are not

even aware of it......just make sure you are not wearing white

lol......actually, the first time it happens to you, you learn to not do it

unless you are in the bathroom or you make sure you wear a maxi pad.......

It only happened to me once......happened to hubby.....ummmmm I think 3

times and hes still learning!

As far as the oder goes.....I dont have any problems but Mike does

occasionally. And he eats alot more carbs and sugar than I do so that is a

major reason why. The bacteria (bad) feeds off the carbs and sugar and

multiply like crazy creating the smell. But it can be controlled and Flagyl

can really be of help here. I would still do the surgery even if they

smelled so bad I would drive everyone away! To be thinner and healthy is a

great trade off.....

Judie

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another question or ?????'s

> Thanks everyone for the sugar information. I can see that this research

> will take some time. But you all sure have my attention about the DS vs

> RNY.

>

> This one is sort of stupid I think but if your surgery is covered but you

> have to go out of state to get it are any of those expenses covered?

I didnt look into that but I do know if you are on medicaid they do pay your

expenses and that includes airfaire and motel and food etc!! Even for pre

opt testing or whatever before the surgery!

>

> There are no surgeons listed for Colorado so I might not even get to

> choose the DS.

No DS surgeons in the state of Idaho where Im from either.....we traveled to

Portland, Oregon to get it done. Would do that again to get the very best

there is to offer!

I have a friend in Fort and she settled for the RNY and regrets it

to this day.....

>

> I am a 40/41 BMI depending on the days weight. Does this make getting the

> DS harder?

My BMI was 42.......I had no problems!

>

> Ok, will someone bottom line me with the oil spill effect???? What are

you

> all really talking about even though you joke. Is the body odor really

> problem?

The oil spill effect is when you overload your system with fats and then you

let wind and an orange slick covers your underwear and sometimes you are not

even aware of it......just make sure you are not wearing white

lol......actually, the first time it happens to you, you learn to not do it

unless you are in the bathroom or you make sure you wear a maxi pad.......

It only happened to me once......happened to hubby.....ummmmm I think 3

times and hes still learning!

As far as the oder goes.....I dont have any problems but Mike does

occasionally. And he eats alot more carbs and sugar than I do so that is a

major reason why. The bacteria (bad) feeds off the carbs and sugar and

multiply like crazy creating the smell. But it can be controlled and Flagyl

can really be of help here. I would still do the surgery even if they

smelled so bad I would drive everyone away! To be thinner and healthy is a

great trade off.....

Judie

[Guest guest]

But for poor Steve--he has to wear a maxi pad to catch erroneous leaks

otherwise his clothes are stained orange.

This isn't a side affect that is common--or as severe as Steve's.>>>>

Exactly!! Its not severe with everyone and Im sure there are many it hasnt

happened to. Steve is just the exception.....we all need a laugh now and

then and Steve provides that! LOL

Jude

[Guest guest]

But for poor Steve--he has to wear a maxi pad to catch erroneous leaks

otherwise his clothes are stained orange.

This isn't a side affect that is common--or as severe as Steve's.>>>>

Exactly!! Its not severe with everyone and Im sure there are many it hasnt

happened to. Steve is just the exception.....we all need a laugh now and

then and Steve provides that! LOL

Jude

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At 11:50 AM -0700 8/26/01, Judie Hensel wrote:

>But for poor Steve--he has to wear a maxi pad to catch erroneous leaks

>otherwise his clothes are stained orange.

>

>This isn't a side affect that is common--or as severe as Steve's.>>>>

>

It's become a minor annoyance in life. Looking back, I would have

the DS all over again, if this were the only bad side effect. I

expect that sooner or later, it will subside, too.

--Steve

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At 11:50 AM -0700 8/26/01, Judie Hensel wrote:

>But for poor Steve--he has to wear a maxi pad to catch erroneous leaks

>otherwise his clothes are stained orange.

>

>This isn't a side affect that is common--or as severe as Steve's.>>>>

>

It's become a minor annoyance in life. Looking back, I would have

the DS all over again, if this were the only bad side effect. I

expect that sooner or later, it will subside, too.

--Steve

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