Guest guest Posted August 19, 2001 Report Share Posted August 19, 2001 In a message dated 8/19/01 7:58:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time, bristolgeo@... writes: > I, am 3 weeks 5 days postop from DS surgery and doing quite well. I > have a few questions for you seasoned veterans out there. I am having > a very hard time eating protein the only type that seems to agree for > the time being is scrambled eggs. Can anyone recommend a tasty > protein drink.....if there is such an animal? Also do the RUNS ever > go away? And to be honest I stumbled across this site.......after > being ignored and insulted over in Obesityhelp.com chat room for my > choice of surgery, can anyone explain this? I have no problems > tolerating carbohydrates, my doctor was not to happy with that he > thinks I am becoming malnourished I take my vitamins everyday but > have a problem repeating them. Can anyone suggest a multivitamin? > In closing I know in my heart the DS was the correct surgery for me. > Thank you all in advance for your help. > Hey ...we had our surgery on the same day!! I am also experiencing the runs...LOL At least it only happens a few times aday. I've heard many say after 4 to 6 weeks things seem to settle down. I believe its just our bodies trying to get accustomed to our new food flow. I am eating pretty much anything at this point. I did have a few days last week that I was really nauseous, but that seems to be better now. I just am starting to try protein drinks although I am using a bottle of Ensure plus at the moment to fill in. Its only 13grams of protein but if I drink 2 a day plus what I'm eating, I'm coming in about right. What types of things are you trying to eat? Have you tried chili and beans? That seems to be really good on my stomach...better than some other things. Its also 15grams of protein (I get the little microwave can) and soups are usually pretty good to settle on the stomach. If I get queasy now, I eat a saltine cracker and that seems to help. I hope you figure it out...I am sure its hard when you really want some new things to eat and nothing is working. Let me know how it goes.... ~~* AJ *~~ Age 37 5'8'' Post op 7/24/01 Open BPD/DS self pay - Dr Baltasar -Alcoy Spain 07/24/01 BMI 64 - 415.1 08/06/01 BMI 59 - 390.2 -24.9 lbs!!!!!!!!!!~~~~ 08/16/01 BMI 58 - 387.0 -27.9 lbs!!!!!!!!!!~~~~ Check out the Bellingham Support Group and my personal page at WWW.WLSBellingham.homestead.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2001 Report Share Posted August 19, 2001 In a message dated 8/19/01 7:58:41 AM Pacific Daylight Time, bristolgeo@... writes: > I, am 3 weeks 5 days postop from DS surgery and doing quite well. I > have a few questions for you seasoned veterans out there. I am having > a very hard time eating protein the only type that seems to agree for > the time being is scrambled eggs. Can anyone recommend a tasty > protein drink.....if there is such an animal? Also do the RUNS ever > go away? And to be honest I stumbled across this site.......after > being ignored and insulted over in Obesityhelp.com chat room for my > choice of surgery, can anyone explain this? I have no problems > tolerating carbohydrates, my doctor was not to happy with that he > thinks I am becoming malnourished I take my vitamins everyday but > have a problem repeating them. Can anyone suggest a multivitamin? > In closing I know in my heart the DS was the correct surgery for me. > Thank you all in advance for your help. > Hey ...we had our surgery on the same day!! I am also experiencing the runs...LOL At least it only happens a few times aday. I've heard many say after 4 to 6 weeks things seem to settle down. I believe its just our bodies trying to get accustomed to our new food flow. I am eating pretty much anything at this point. I did have a few days last week that I was really nauseous, but that seems to be better now. I just am starting to try protein drinks although I am using a bottle of Ensure plus at the moment to fill in. Its only 13grams of protein but if I drink 2 a day plus what I'm eating, I'm coming in about right. What types of things are you trying to eat? Have you tried chili and beans? That seems to be really good on my stomach...better than some other things. Its also 15grams of protein (I get the little microwave can) and soups are usually pretty good to settle on the stomach. If I get queasy now, I eat a saltine cracker and that seems to help. I hope you figure it out...I am sure its hard when you really want some new things to eat and nothing is working. Let me know how it goes.... ~~* AJ *~~ Age 37 5'8'' Post op 7/24/01 Open BPD/DS self pay - Dr Baltasar -Alcoy Spain 07/24/01 BMI 64 - 415.1 08/06/01 BMI 59 - 390.2 -24.9 lbs!!!!!!!!!!~~~~ 08/16/01 BMI 58 - 387.0 -27.9 lbs!!!!!!!!!!~~~~ Check out the Bellingham Support Group and my personal page at WWW.WLSBellingham.homestead.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2001 Report Share Posted August 19, 2001 In a message dated 8/19/01 8:11:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time, lookn2bthin@... writes: > And to be honest I stumbled across this site.......after > > being ignored and insulted over in Obesityhelp.com chat room for my > > choice of surgery, can anyone explain this? I've heard the board is extremely busy with RNY's...so that is why. People are very passionate about the type of surgery they get...although its no reason to be rude. I personally feel all the surgeries have things to offer and we all need to decide what is right for ourselves. Don't let it get to you...you're not the only one that we've heard this from... ~~* AJ *~~ Age 37 5'8'' Post op 7/24/01 Open BPD/DS self pay - Dr Baltasar -Alcoy Spain 07/24/01 BMI 64 - 415.1 08/06/01 BMI 59 - 390.2 -24.9 lbs!!!!!!!!!!~~~~ 08/16/01 BMI 58 - 387.0 -27.9 lbs!!!!!!!!!!~~~~ Check out the Bellingham Support Group and my personal page at WWW.WLSBellingham.homestead.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2001 Report Share Posted August 19, 2001 In a message dated 8/19/01 8:11:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time, lookn2bthin@... writes: > And to be honest I stumbled across this site.......after > > being ignored and insulted over in Obesityhelp.com chat room for my > > choice of surgery, can anyone explain this? I've heard the board is extremely busy with RNY's...so that is why. People are very passionate about the type of surgery they get...although its no reason to be rude. I personally feel all the surgeries have things to offer and we all need to decide what is right for ourselves. Don't let it get to you...you're not the only one that we've heard this from... ~~* AJ *~~ Age 37 5'8'' Post op 7/24/01 Open BPD/DS self pay - Dr Baltasar -Alcoy Spain 07/24/01 BMI 64 - 415.1 08/06/01 BMI 59 - 390.2 -24.9 lbs!!!!!!!!!!~~~~ 08/16/01 BMI 58 - 387.0 -27.9 lbs!!!!!!!!!!~~~~ Check out the Bellingham Support Group and my personal page at WWW.WLSBellingham.homestead.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2001 Report Share Posted August 19, 2001 says: ....I don't remember exactly how I found the DS, but for me personally I feel that moment was deeply spiritual for me with an intervention of my higher power as In have come to know her to be. Yes, for me it was like when you walk in that house that's for sale and things go BOING! and you instantly know that's the perfect house you've been looking for! Sheryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2001 Report Share Posted August 19, 2001 Welocme, - I am a little over 6 weeks out and the diarrhea is all gone. It went away between week 3-4. So hopefully it won't last too much longer for you, but everyone is different. As for protein, have you tried a veggie burger patty? Like Boca Burger or Gardenburgers? These went down pretty well for me. The other thing was I had a big bucket of protein powder and I would throw it in the blender with some ice and some chocolate silk (chocolate soy milk). That was pretty good for a protein shake. Also, I threw in some peaches, ice and protein powder. I didn't like any of the protein drinks out there. They all made me sick. You can experiment and try to make your own if you don't find something ready made that you like. I've been taking the vita4life vitamins which are specifically designed for people with wls surgery. You can check out the site at www.vita4life.com. I don't know what to say about obesityhelp, I think that there is this pervasive attitude that you have to suffer and be unhappy to lose weight and somehow we're cheating or something by having a surgery that allows us to enjoy eating and still lose weight. I say, tough potatoes! We're the smart ones. But anyhow, lets not open that can o worms. Take care, and congrats on your great weight loss!! Amy Fremont, CA DS July 6, 2001 Rabkin/Jossart BMI 47, now 41 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2001 Report Share Posted August 19, 2001 Welocme, - I am a little over 6 weeks out and the diarrhea is all gone. It went away between week 3-4. So hopefully it won't last too much longer for you, but everyone is different. As for protein, have you tried a veggie burger patty? Like Boca Burger or Gardenburgers? These went down pretty well for me. The other thing was I had a big bucket of protein powder and I would throw it in the blender with some ice and some chocolate silk (chocolate soy milk). That was pretty good for a protein shake. Also, I threw in some peaches, ice and protein powder. I didn't like any of the protein drinks out there. They all made me sick. You can experiment and try to make your own if you don't find something ready made that you like. I've been taking the vita4life vitamins which are specifically designed for people with wls surgery. You can check out the site at www.vita4life.com. I don't know what to say about obesityhelp, I think that there is this pervasive attitude that you have to suffer and be unhappy to lose weight and somehow we're cheating or something by having a surgery that allows us to enjoy eating and still lose weight. I say, tough potatoes! We're the smart ones. But anyhow, lets not open that can o worms. Take care, and congrats on your great weight loss!! Amy Fremont, CA DS July 6, 2001 Rabkin/Jossart BMI 47, now 41 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2001 Report Share Posted August 19, 2001 Re: New to this forum. > I've heard the board is extremely busy with RNY's...so that is why. People > are very passionate about the type of surgery they get...although its no > reason to be rude. I guess once you've made a life-changing decision, it'd be really hard to swallow that maybe you made the wrong choice...(not that I'd ever tell a RNY person that they chose wrong).. alyssa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2001 Report Share Posted August 19, 2001 Re: New to this forum. > I've heard the board is extremely busy with RNY's...so that is why. People > are very passionate about the type of surgery they get...although its no > reason to be rude. I guess once you've made a life-changing decision, it'd be really hard to swallow that maybe you made the wrong choice...(not that I'd ever tell a RNY person that they chose wrong).. alyssa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2001 Report Share Posted August 19, 2001 I find I must add to the discussion that I believe there is no overall right or wrong decision with both surgeries at this point. Only in the matter of the individual. One can make a wrong choice, but I think only in the perspective of their own life situation. I don't think RNY is a horrible detrimental decision overall. It's just not my cup of tea after doing research....and I was someone who was persuing the RNY but preferred the other surgery performed by the infamous surgeon in the Carolina's...I sent him my name SS# and everything...and was waiting for him to start seeing patients again. I don't remember exactly how I found the DS, but for me personally I feel that moment was deeply spiritual for me with an intervention of my higher power as In have come to know her to be. Nahodil Re: New to this forum. Re: New to this forum. > I've heard the board is extremely busy with RNY's...so that is why. People > are very passionate about the type of surgery they get...although its no > reason to be rude. I guess once you've made a life-changing decision, it'd be really hard to swallow that maybe you made the wrong choice...(not that I'd ever tell a RNY person that they chose wrong).. alyssa ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2001 Report Share Posted August 19, 2001 I find I must add to the discussion that I believe there is no overall right or wrong decision with both surgeries at this point. Only in the matter of the individual. One can make a wrong choice, but I think only in the perspective of their own life situation. I don't think RNY is a horrible detrimental decision overall. It's just not my cup of tea after doing research....and I was someone who was persuing the RNY but preferred the other surgery performed by the infamous surgeon in the Carolina's...I sent him my name SS# and everything...and was waiting for him to start seeing patients again. I don't remember exactly how I found the DS, but for me personally I feel that moment was deeply spiritual for me with an intervention of my higher power as In have come to know her to be. Nahodil Re: New to this forum. Re: New to this forum. > I've heard the board is extremely busy with RNY's...so that is why. People > are very passionate about the type of surgery they get...although its no > reason to be rude. I guess once you've made a life-changing decision, it'd be really hard to swallow that maybe you made the wrong choice...(not that I'd ever tell a RNY person that they chose wrong).. alyssa ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2001 Report Share Posted August 19, 2001 - try string cheese, cottage cheese, yogurt, tuna salad(without pickles & onions in it), liver pates, kippers, sardines (but not packed in tomato or hot sauce just yet), and water-packed tuna. Another thing to try is making chicken noodle or cream of chicken soup and adding ground babyfood chicken to that- or a beaten egg to make " egg drop soup " . I've also heard mashed potatos and gravy- try adding the babymeat to that, too. Another thing to try is refried beans and cheese (maybe try fat free until your BMs firm up a bit). I have yet to find a truly excellent protein drink, but so far Isopure seems to be more palatable to me.. stay away from the " milky " type proteins and try the " fruity " ones- Lindora, the Isopure premixed, extreme pure pro- all of those I have heard mentioned as more tolerable, & I drink the Isopure myself. Just experiment- and if you can get samples, try the samples before investing in a huge cannister of something you might not like. A final protein option might be the predigested liquid protein- its not too tasty, but its 15 grams of protein in 2 tablespoons, and its 100% absorbable. Also- the folks in the ObesityHelp chat room are just convinced that the DS is not as good as the RnY.. but you notice that very few 5 year plus postop RnY folk come in there? I think there may be a reason, myself. The diarrhea will end, eventually.. watch for changes around weeks 4-6. Don't give up.. you found the right place, ! Hugs, Liane 5-30 -58 lbs > I, am 3 weeks 5 days postop from DS surgery and doing quite well. I > have a few questions for you seasoned veterans out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2001 Report Share Posted August 19, 2001 > > Re: New to this forum. > > > > I've heard the board is extremely busy with RNY's...so that is why. > People > > are very passionate about the type of surgery they get...although its no > > reason to be rude. > > I guess once you've made a life-changing decision, it'd be really hard to > swallow that maybe you made the wrong choice...(not that I'd ever tell a RNY > person that they chose wrong).. Me either.. but when someone is whining about how they dump daily, or will need an endoscopy, or how they can't eat steak, etc.. I just type, " gosh, I'm so glad I got a DS.. We don't have that/those problems! " That either gets folks asking about the DS, or I get boo'd down.. but I support my facts with research, & they eventually have to back off. I think its petty- they don't attack " bandsters " or VBG postops, but its still OK to attack the DS. I also had someone tell me to hush about the dangers of the MGB because " might get sued. " I told him that you could only be sued for presenting slander as the truth, & I had research to back up my statements. Some of those folks are just.. differnt. My .02, Liane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2001 Report Share Posted August 19, 2001 > > > > Re: New to this forum. > > > > > > > I've heard the board is extremely busy with RNY's...so that is > why. > > People > > > are very passionate about the type of surgery they get...although > its no > > > reason to be rude. > > > > I guess once you've made a life-changing decision, it'd be really > hard to > > swallow that maybe you made the wrong choice...(not that I'd ever > tell a RNY > > person that they chose wrong).. > > Me either.. but when someone is whining about how they dump daily, or > will need an endoscopy, or how they can't eat steak, etc.. I just > type, " gosh, I'm so glad I got a DS.. We don't have that/those > problems! " That either gets folks asking about the DS, or I get boo'd > down.. but I support my facts with research, & they eventually have to > back off. I think its petty- they don't attack " bandsters " or VBG > postops, but its still OK to attack the DS. I also had someone tell > me to hush about the dangers of the MGB because " might get sued. " > I told him that you could only be sued for presenting slander as the > truth, & I had research to back up my statements. Some of those folks > are just.. differnt. > My .02, > Liane Hi Liane! Actually, when I was considering the VBG when I first had insurance problems with DS (still having 'em!), I was attacked on the RNY chat room. It seems to me that ANY surgery other than RNY is not acceptable to most of them. Though, I did make two VERY good friends from that chat room. One lovely lady who has had the DS surgery and another who is going to have the RNY. I don't go to that chat room anymore but I'm glad I went there the first time because of the freindships I made. Any DS'er who goes should just keep in mind that you are in the SERIOUS minority in that chat room. Tracey in San Diego Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2001 Report Share Posted August 19, 2001 > > > > Re: New to this forum. > > > > > > > I've heard the board is extremely busy with RNY's...so that is > why. > > People > > > are very passionate about the type of surgery they get...although > its no > > > reason to be rude. > > > > I guess once you've made a life-changing decision, it'd be really > hard to > > swallow that maybe you made the wrong choice...(not that I'd ever > tell a RNY > > person that they chose wrong).. > > Me either.. but when someone is whining about how they dump daily, or > will need an endoscopy, or how they can't eat steak, etc.. I just > type, " gosh, I'm so glad I got a DS.. We don't have that/those > problems! " That either gets folks asking about the DS, or I get boo'd > down.. but I support my facts with research, & they eventually have to > back off. I think its petty- they don't attack " bandsters " or VBG > postops, but its still OK to attack the DS. I also had someone tell > me to hush about the dangers of the MGB because " might get sued. " > I told him that you could only be sued for presenting slander as the > truth, & I had research to back up my statements. Some of those folks > are just.. differnt. > My .02, > Liane Hi Liane! Actually, when I was considering the VBG when I first had insurance problems with DS (still having 'em!), I was attacked on the RNY chat room. It seems to me that ANY surgery other than RNY is not acceptable to most of them. Though, I did make two VERY good friends from that chat room. One lovely lady who has had the DS surgery and another who is going to have the RNY. I don't go to that chat room anymore but I'm glad I went there the first time because of the freindships I made. Any DS'er who goes should just keep in mind that you are in the SERIOUS minority in that chat room. Tracey in San Diego Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2001 Report Share Posted August 19, 2001 , First... great choice in procedure, you will not regret it. I had the runs for 2-3 weeks, then settled down to one BM Am normal except for color. Try flinstone CHEWABLE multivitamins twice a day. They are complete and taste and go down like candy. Foods I tolerated well the first few weels. Dannon light and lively yogurt Cheese saltines peanutbutter eggs egg drop soup Isopure protein drink...let the bubbles disapate 2-3 weeks...you will feel a lot better, 5-7 weeks you won't even realize you had surgery except for the 50 pounds you will have lost best of luck Dan > I, am 3 weeks 5 days postop from DS surgery and doing quite well. I > have a few questions for you seasoned veterans out there. I am having > a very hard time eating protein the only type that seems to agree for > the time being is scrambled eggs. Can anyone recommend a tasty > protein drink.....if there is such an animal? Also do the RUNS ever > go away? And to be honest I stumbled across this site.......after > being ignored and insulted over in Obesityhelp.com chat room for my > choice of surgery, can anyone explain this? I have no problems > tolerating carbohydrates, my doctor was not to happy with that he > thinks I am becoming malnourished I take my vitamins everyday but > have a problem repeating them. Can anyone suggest a multivitamin? > In closing I know in my heart the DS was the correct surgery for me. > Thank you all in advance for your help. > > > 7/24/01 -41 pounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2001 Report Share Posted August 19, 2001 , First... great choice in procedure, you will not regret it. I had the runs for 2-3 weeks, then settled down to one BM Am normal except for color. Try flinstone CHEWABLE multivitamins twice a day. They are complete and taste and go down like candy. Foods I tolerated well the first few weels. Dannon light and lively yogurt Cheese saltines peanutbutter eggs egg drop soup Isopure protein drink...let the bubbles disapate 2-3 weeks...you will feel a lot better, 5-7 weeks you won't even realize you had surgery except for the 50 pounds you will have lost best of luck Dan > I, am 3 weeks 5 days postop from DS surgery and doing quite well. I > have a few questions for you seasoned veterans out there. I am having > a very hard time eating protein the only type that seems to agree for > the time being is scrambled eggs. Can anyone recommend a tasty > protein drink.....if there is such an animal? Also do the RUNS ever > go away? And to be honest I stumbled across this site.......after > being ignored and insulted over in Obesityhelp.com chat room for my > choice of surgery, can anyone explain this? I have no problems > tolerating carbohydrates, my doctor was not to happy with that he > thinks I am becoming malnourished I take my vitamins everyday but > have a problem repeating them. Can anyone suggest a multivitamin? > In closing I know in my heart the DS was the correct surgery for me. > Thank you all in advance for your help. > > > 7/24/01 -41 pounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2001 Report Share Posted August 19, 2001 Hi , Welcome to the group and congrats on your weight-loss to date. I'm pre-op, so I can't suggest anything that might help, but I wish you luck. I still use the Q & A database at obesityhelp.com just as reference and/or reality check. There are many non-food, non-surgery-specific issues that have to be dealt with after surgery, such as emotional issues, anti-wls attitudes, insurance companies, etc. I just check everyone's profiles to see which surgery they had to get a better idea of their reference point, but I agree with everyone in that it tends to be an " anti-DS " site only because there are a whole lot less DSers than RNYers over there. Take care, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2001 Report Share Posted August 19, 2001 Hi , Welcome to the group and congrats on your weight-loss to date. I'm pre-op, so I can't suggest anything that might help, but I wish you luck. I still use the Q & A database at obesityhelp.com just as reference and/or reality check. There are many non-food, non-surgery-specific issues that have to be dealt with after surgery, such as emotional issues, anti-wls attitudes, insurance companies, etc. I just check everyone's profiles to see which surgery they had to get a better idea of their reference point, but I agree with everyone in that it tends to be an " anti-DS " site only because there are a whole lot less DSers than RNYers over there. Take care, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2001 Report Share Posted August 19, 2001 Tracey, I so know how you feel in that chat room. But I hope everyone will take their turn and join in. It was because I met there that I learned about the DS. My first reaction to her information was " oh, I would never do that " ! (Look at me now!) If there is a DSer there often enough, giving accurate information, we can make a difference, and educate those who may really benefit from the DS. Meli June 21,01 Dr Hess -44lb > Hi Liane! > > Actually, when I was considering the VBG when I first had insurance > problems with DS (still having 'em!), I was attacked on the RNY chat > room. It seems to me that ANY surgery other than RNY is not > acceptable to most of them. Though, I did make two VERY good friends > from that chat room. One lovely lady who has had the DS surgery and > another who is going to have the RNY. I don't go to that chat room > anymore but I'm glad I went there the first time because of the > freindships I made. Any DS'er who goes should just keep in mind that > you are in the SERIOUS minority in that chat room. > > Tracey in San Diego Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2001 Report Share Posted August 19, 2001 Tracey, I so know how you feel in that chat room. But I hope everyone will take their turn and join in. It was because I met there that I learned about the DS. My first reaction to her information was " oh, I would never do that " ! (Look at me now!) If there is a DSer there often enough, giving accurate information, we can make a difference, and educate those who may really benefit from the DS. Meli June 21,01 Dr Hess -44lb > Hi Liane! > > Actually, when I was considering the VBG when I first had insurance > problems with DS (still having 'em!), I was attacked on the RNY chat > room. It seems to me that ANY surgery other than RNY is not > acceptable to most of them. Though, I did make two VERY good friends > from that chat room. One lovely lady who has had the DS surgery and > another who is going to have the RNY. I don't go to that chat room > anymore but I'm glad I went there the first time because of the > freindships I made. Any DS'er who goes should just keep in mind that > you are in the SERIOUS minority in that chat room. > > Tracey in San Diego Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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