Guest guest Posted August 7, 2001 Report Share Posted August 7, 2001 In a message dated 8/7/01 1:46:07 PM, duodenalswitch writes: << Dr. A now gives cards for us to cary with info for other health care providers. If anyone on this list has signs of a blockage get to the hospital and make sure they phone your surgeon! This can be serious stuff. >> Chris: Is there any way I could get ahold of one of these cards? I would really, really like to see it. We have a card at Mt. Sinai that lists blockage as a possible complication (along with other stuff) and has a diagram of the surgery, etc. Is this what you are referring to or is there something with instructions on how to handle a potential blockage situation? My curiosity is greatly piqued! I think blockages are some of the scariest post-op things because there really isn't anything one can do to predict them or preven them! all the best, lap ds with gallbladder removal January 25, 2001 six months post-op and still feelin' fabu! pre-op: 307 lbs/bmi 45 (5' 9 1/2 " ) now: 228 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2001 Report Share Posted August 7, 2001 <<<<< Yes, the blockage can happen even months after surgery. The bilo limb is the scary one, as it is not as easy to pick up. If you alimentary limb is blocked you will throw up and stop pooping. But if the bilo limb is blocked you will get some abdominal pain and get very sick, but it won't be nearly as obvious what is wrong.>>>> Hi, Chris: I almost always forget you are a pre-op because you are so informative, man! I mean, people dubbed me 'encyclopedia brittanica' on this list but you top the cake! I'm not being ironic, either. I mean it. The cards are probably similar. Yes, the Mt. Sinai cards have contact information. They are invaluable. The bilio limb blockage is really scary --- every time I get an ache or pain I'm thinking 'oh, God- this is it'.... because I know it is always a possibility. I'm only six months out, after all! I recall reading about someone having a bilio-blockage but I can't remember if it was on this list or somewhere else... All the best, lap Ds with gallbladder removal January 25, 2001 Six months post-op and still feelin' fabu! pre-op: 307 lbs/bmi 45 (5' 9 1/2 " ) now: 228 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2001 Report Share Posted August 7, 2001 > What causes intestinal blockages after surgery? Is it not chewing good > enough, Too much fiber, too much meat?????? > -- > Shelia Ellis > Premiere Shetland Sheepdogs and Parrots > Champion Shelties,all colors,testing done > http://www.geocities.com/premierepets > White Shetland Sheepdog Association > http://www.geocities.com/colorheadedwhite Shelia, I believe that the answer is D) None of the above. Blockages are caused by adhesions that form in the intestine. They are a direct (though often delayed) result of the surgery. I have seen no scientific that suggest that the patients eating habits have anything to do with it. Fortunately blockages are rare, but they can be potentially fatal - particularly if they occur in the bilo limb. They may require surgery to correct. One of Dr. Anthone's patients died at a hospital more than 24 hours from admission. They didn't understand the seriousness of a bilo limb blockage and took a wait and see attitude. This approach works for most people, but not post-ops. The hospitals ignorance killed an otherwise health person. Dr. A now gives cards for us to cary with info for other health care providers. If anyone on this list has signs of a blockage get to the hospital and make sure they phone your suregon! This can be serious stuff. Hull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2001 Report Share Posted August 7, 2001 Hi Shelia - Long time, no see. How's thingz? I believe that the majority, at least, of the blockages occur from adhesions formed from scar tissue. I had to have an emergency bowel obstruction surgery at 8 months post-op. And, while the blockages are rare, they do happen. He had to take down several adhesions when he did the surgery. He also did a hernia repair at the same time. Kris G Cincinnati, Ohio 5'7 " , 40 years old 8/22 - 283 - BMI 44.3 7/22 - 141 - BMI 22.1 Reached goal set by Dr. of 147 at 9 months/3 wks. ciao to 142 lbs. & 149.75 inches in 11 months Open BPD/DS 08/22/00 Bowel obstruction surgery 4/21/01 Dr. Maguire, Kettering OH HumanaFreedom Plus Plan iwillbefit@... http://www.newlifeteams.org blockages | What causes intestinal blockages after surgery? Is it not chewing good | enough, Too much fiber, too much meat?????? | -- | Shelia Ellis | Premiere Shetland Sheepdogs and Parrots | Champion Shelties,all colors,testing done | http://www.geocities.com/premierepets | White Shetland Sheepdog Association | http://www.geocities.com/colorheadedwhite | | ---------------------------------------------------------------------- | Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2001 Report Share Posted August 7, 2001 Chris/Sheila, Hi .. this is Donna. I am just beginning the WLS journey myself, and I must say that talk of obstructions really really scares me. I had some abdominal surgery last year (ovary removal) and a week post-op, I was taken to the emergency room with a bowel obstruction .... and *ouch* .... do they hurt !! With an obstruction (bilo track or otherwise), would the symptoms be the same so that there would be adequate warning ?? If you have any info that would put my mind at ease, I'd really appreciate it. I want a normal life ... but that includes staying alive :-) Bye, Donna Donna C. Joostema (T/L) 444-7949 WES Build Support email: joostema@... chull1@.... com To: duodenalswitch cc: 08/07/01 01:42 Subject: Re: blockages PM Please respond to duodenalswitch > What causes intestinal blockages after surgery? Is it not chewing good > enough, Too much fiber, too much meat?????? > -- > Shelia Ellis > Premiere Shetland Sheepdogs and Parrots > Champion Shelties,all colors,testing done > http://www.geocities.com/premierepets > White Shetland Sheepdog Association > http://www.geocities.com/colorheadedwhite Shelia, I believe that the answer is D) None of the above. Blockages are caused by adhesions that form in the intestine. They are a direct (though often delayed) result of the surgery. I have seen no scientific that suggest that the patients eating habits have anything to do with it. Fortunately blockages are rare, but they can be potentially fatal - particularly if they occur in the bilo limb. They may require surgery to correct. One of Dr. Anthone's patients died at a hospital more than 24 hours from admission. They didn't understand the seriousness of a bilo limb blockage and took a wait and see attitude. This approach works for most people, but not post-ops. The hospitals ignorance killed an otherwise health person. Dr. A now gives cards for us to cary with info for other health care providers. If anyone on this list has signs of a blockage get to the hospital and make sure they phone your suregon! This can be serious stuff. Hull ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2001 Report Share Posted August 7, 2001 > > Chris: Is there any way I could get ahold of one of these cards? I would > really, really like to see it. We have a card at Mt. Sinai that lists > blockage as a possible complication (along with other stuff) and has a > diagram of the surgery, etc. Is this what you are referring to or is there > something with instructions on how to handle a potential blockage situation? > My curiosity is greatly piqued! > > I think blockages are some of the scariest post-op things because there > really isn't anything one can do to predict them or preven them! > > all the best, , I am pre-op, so I don't have the card yet. I think that what you card has is similar. The most important thing is, does it have contact information for your suregon. As I understand it, Dr. A's cards give a diagram and information to contact him in case of a blockage or other emergency. Yes, the blockage can happen even months after surgery. The bilo limb is the scary one, as it is not as easy to pick up. If you alimentary limb is blocked you will throw up and stop pooping. But if the bilo limb is blocked you will get some abdominal pain and get very sick, but it won't be nearly as obvious what is wrong. Is there anyone on the list that has experienced a blockage in the bilo limb? I would be interested in hearing what the experinece is like. Hull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2001 Report Share Posted August 7, 2001 Donna, I just posted about the problems with the bilo limb obstruction. On the other hand an obstuction in the alimentary (food) limb will be rather similar to what you experienced. I have no doubt that it is not fun. Keep in mind that this happens in only about 1% of the cases. Talk to you surgeon regarding you past experinece. I don't know if this makes you more likely or not to have a problem. Hull Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2001 Report Share Posted August 7, 2001 what are the signs and/or symptoms of blockage?? Judie ----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2001 Report Share Posted August 7, 2001 is there a way for those of us who dont have these little cards to get them?? Judie Re: Re: blockages > > In a message dated 8/7/01 1:46:07 PM, duodenalswitch writes: > > << Dr. A now gives cards > > for us to cary with info for other health care providers. > > > If anyone on this list has signs of a blockage get to the hospital > > and make sure they phone your surgeon! This can be serious stuff. > > >> > > Chris: Is there any way I could get ahold of one of these cards? I would > really, really like to see it. We have a card at Mt. Sinai that lists > blockage as a possible complication (along with other stuff) and has a > diagram of the surgery, etc. Is this what you are referring to or is there > something with instructions on how to handle a potential blockage situation? > My curiosity is greatly piqued! > > I think blockages are some of the scariest post-op things because there > really isn't anything one can do to predict them or preven them! > > all the best, > > lap ds with gallbladder removal > January 25, 2001 > > six months post-op and still feelin' fabu! > > pre-op: 307 lbs/bmi 45 (5' 9 1/2 " ) > now: 228 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2001 Report Share Posted August 8, 2001 Dr Rabkin has a wallet card at: http://www.pacificsurgery.com/For_Patients/walletcafor_patients.html Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2001 Report Share Posted August 8, 2001 Dr Rabkin has a wallet card at: http://www.pacificsurgery.com/For_Patients/walletcafor_patients.html Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2001 Report Share Posted August 9, 2001 In a message dated 8/9/01 6:25:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, nurseru@... writes: > I will be trained in the O.R. for C-sec. I am worried that I will have to > literally " run " out of the O.R if I get a case of gas,(can you imagine how > well *that* would go over in the O.R.???? there is no-where to hide!!!) or > worse, diarrhea. Thats not gonna sit too well with anyone involved. > > I am worried that I won't be able to work/stand right after surgery as well > as I will need to, for the O.R. > > Hi Ru, I had surgery in June and I work in SICU. I was out for 6 weeks. When I returned I have had some episodes of urgency and " gas. " When my body wants to have a bm I can only suppress it for so long then I literally have to fly out of the unit. I use a bathroom outside of our unit. There is one in our unit but it is like a closet. I carry my matches and spray with me. I have had to expel some gas in the unit but try to go to a corner....lol. You can't always supress it. I have been using beano without success and am ordering devrom. I would hate to be stuck in an OR. You will have to plan carefully...maybe someone who has been postop longer can offer both of us some good advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2001 Report Share Posted August 9, 2001 I must chime in on this subject, although not post-op or pre-op. I just had an intestinal blockage, so says the ER.....I was in severe...and I do mean some big time pain!! Just incase anyone would like to know what it feels like, they even said that I have Diverticulitis. The pain is similar to apendix trouble. Just a heads up! blockages > What causes intestinal blockages after surgery? Is it not chewing good > enough, Too much fiber, too much meat?????? > -- > Shelia Ellis > Premiere Shetland Sheepdogs and Parrots > Champion Shelties,all colors,testing done > http://www.geocities.com/premierepets > White Shetland Sheepdog Association > http://www.geocities.com/colorheadedwhite > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2001 Report Share Posted August 9, 2001 I have a question for the nurses in the group. I am an RN, and have the opportunity to transfer to L & D. This has been my dream job (ok, except that it will be 7p-7a--I hate nights,but I work 'em now as it is) since nursing school. My question is this: Do you think that the surgery will inhibit my job performance???? I know that after the surgery I will be out for about 4 weeks.(eek,or more!) The L & D training lasts 4 months, but I can pick up what I miss during the February training. I will be trained in the O.R. for C-sec. I am worried that I will have to literally " run " out of the O.R if I get a case of gas,(can you imagine how well *that* would go over in the O.R.???? there is no-where to hide!!!) or worse, diarrhea. Thats not gonna sit too well with anyone involved. I am worried that I won't be able to work/stand right after surgery as well as I will need to, for the O.R. The floor nursing, delivery and triage I think I will be ok with, but being trapped in O.R with a bad case of gut rumbles is worrying me. In your opinion, should I take the transfer, knowing I will *probably* be having surgery this Nov or Dec----the slow season in L & D, and try to avoid embarrassing moments? Or should I wait until next Feb, or possible next August? (these are the dates for L & D training), and endure the job I have now (can you tell I am not overly fond of it?) I am so enmeshed in the middle of this , I need an outside , informed view. Thanks! (º·.¸(¨*·.¸ ¸.·*¨)¸.·º) «.·°· * Ru *.·°·.» (¸.·º(¸.·¨ * *¨·.¸)º·.¸) Web page: http://home.earthlink.net/~nurseru/index.html Web page: http://profiles.yahoo.com/rumerybast ~~ Walking in the PawPrints of Bast, Listening to the Wisdom in Her Purr~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2001 Report Share Posted August 9, 2001 > In a message dated 8/9/01 6:25:58 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > nurseru@e... writes: > > > > I will be trained in the O.R. for C-sec. I am worried that I will have to > > literally " run " out of the O.R if I get a case of gas,(can you imagine how > > well *that* would go over in the O.R.???? there is no-where to hide!!!) or > > worse, diarrhea. Thats not gonna sit too well with anyone involved. > > > > I am worried that I won't be able to work/stand right after surgery as well > > as I will need to, for the O.R. > > > > > Thanks girls I am 4 weeks post op and have been wondering the same things myself , as I work In a NICU, neonatal intensive care unit LOL Does anyone have any suggestions for a good air freshner to use ? Thanks Dr Anthone DS 7/11/01 > Hi Ru, > I had surgery in June and I work in SICU. I was out for 6 weeks. When I > returned I have had some episodes of urgency and " gas. " When my body wants to > have a bm I can only suppress it for so long then I literally have to fly out > of the unit. I use a bathroom outside of our unit. There is one in our unit > but it is like a closet. I carry my matches and spray with me. I have had to > expel some gas in the unit but try to go to a corner....lol. You can't always > supress it. I have been using beano without success and am ordering devrom. I > would hate to be stuck in an OR. You will have to plan carefully...maybe > someone who has been postop longer can offer both of us some good advice. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2001 Report Share Posted August 10, 2001 RU, I'm an ER nurse, and also have situations where I cant leave. My suggestion to you is that four weeks is NOT nearly enough time off. I'm seven weeks out, and finally getting the hang of working with new digestive plumbing. You will need the time to figure out food intloerances, etc. Then, you will be better adjusted and have more of an idea how this surgery will affect you. Also, dont put off your life or your goals anymore. Thats what MO people do, waiting till theyre thin or whatever. Take the job and run with it. Best of luck, Meli -- In duodenalswitch@y..., " Ru " <nurseru@e...> wrote: > I have a question for the nurses in the group. I am an RN, and have the > opportunity to transfer to L & D. This has been my dream job (ok, except that > it will be 7p-7a--I hate nights,but I work 'em now as it is) since nursing > school. > > My question is this: Do you think that the surgery will inhibit my job > performance???? > > I know that after the surgery I will be out for about 4 weeks. (eek,or more!) > The L & D training lasts 4 months, but I can pick up what I miss during the > February training. > > I will be trained in the O.R. for C-sec. I am worried that I will have to > literally " run " out of the O.R if I get a case of gas,(can you imagine how > well *that* would go over in the O.R.???? there is no-where to hide!!!) or > worse, diarrhea. Thats not gonna sit too well with anyone involved. > > I am worried that I won't be able to work/stand right after surgery as well > as I will need to, for the O.R. > > The floor nursing, delivery and triage I think I will be ok with, but being > trapped in O.R with a bad case of gut rumbles is worrying me. > > In your opinion, should I take the transfer, knowing I will *probably* be > having surgery this Nov or Dec----the slow season in L & D, and try to avoid > embarrassing moments? > > Or should I wait until next Feb, or possible next August? (these are the > dates for L & D training), and endure the job I have now (can you tell I am > not overly fond of it?) > > I am so enmeshed in the middle of this , I need an outside , informed view. > > Thanks! > > (º·.¸(¨*·.¸ ¸.·*¨)¸.·º) > «.·°· * Ru *.·°·.» > (¸.·º(¸.·¨ * *¨·.¸)º·.¸) > > Web page: http://home.earthlink.net/~nurseru/index.html > Web page: http://profiles.yahoo.com/rumerybast > > ~~ Walking in the PawPrints of Bast, Listening to the Wisdom in Her Purr~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2001 Report Share Posted August 10, 2001 At 5:38 AM +0000 8/10/01, HONEYB4@... wrote: >... Thanks girls I am 4 weeks post op and have been wondering the same >things myself , as I work In a NICU, neonatal intensive care unit LOL >Does anyone have any suggestions for a good air freshner to use ? You're already covered. Just blame the neonates! Seriously, I would question the safety for the little ones of introducing anything more that they might breathe into their fragile lungs. " L'aire du DS " is bad enough; I wouldn't embellish it. --Steve -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2001 Report Share Posted August 10, 2001 At 5:38 AM +0000 8/10/01, HONEYB4@... wrote: >... Thanks girls I am 4 weeks post op and have been wondering the same >things myself , as I work In a NICU, neonatal intensive care unit LOL >Does anyone have any suggestions for a good air freshner to use ? You're already covered. Just blame the neonates! Seriously, I would question the safety for the little ones of introducing anything more that they might breathe into their fragile lungs. " L'aire du DS " is bad enough; I wouldn't embellish it. --Steve -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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