Guest guest Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 Hi Lilka, I'm glad you are feeling less pain. Pain will definately slow our recovery. I've been taking liquid vicodan for pain when I don't have to drive, and I think I may be back on Darvocet pills when/if my stomach can take it for arthritis pain. I spoke too soon about doing well. I spent Friday at Kaiser because 2 of my incisions were pink and infected-looking. So now I'm taking Keflex antibiotics that knock me on my -ss. I noticed cottage cheese was not on the list of Stage II foods, but it was listed in the meal plan for stage II on the same page. I choose to interpret that as an oversite on the part of the person who typed up the list and craved fresh protein, so I eat it, but reeeally chew it thoroughly. So far, so good. One of the post ops I met earlier told me that cottage cheese " Doubles " saved her on stage II. You probably don't want the sugar, so go easy if you try it. I just think back 20 years ago when my daughter was an infant and I tried a new food on her. Today I pureed cream of potato soup and had a few spoons of that. I love to cook, so I still cook for my family. There are some longing twinges here and there, but I didn't get to weigh almost 400 by denying myself so I figure I've tasted about everything in my 53 years and I can do without for a few years and then in very limited amounts after that. I've been following the South Beach diet for my hiusband's diabeties and the gourmet goodies are fun to prepare. I make him these gargantuan chocolate double-dipped strawberries, and know it may be a year or more, but one day I may be able to have one...very slowly. Can food be sexual? Love, Joyce ___________________________________________________ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 Hi Lilka, I'm glad you are feeling less pain. Pain will definately slow our recovery. I've been taking liquid vicodan for pain when I don't have to drive, and I think I may be back on Darvocet pills when/if my stomach can take it for arthritis pain. I spoke too soon about doing well. I spent Friday at Kaiser because 2 of my incisions were pink and infected-looking. So now I'm taking Keflex antibiotics that knock me on my -ss. I noticed cottage cheese was not on the list of Stage II foods, but it was listed in the meal plan for stage II on the same page. I choose to interpret that as an oversite on the part of the person who typed up the list and craved fresh protein, so I eat it, but reeeally chew it thoroughly. So far, so good. One of the post ops I met earlier told me that cottage cheese " Doubles " saved her on stage II. You probably don't want the sugar, so go easy if you try it. I just think back 20 years ago when my daughter was an infant and I tried a new food on her. Today I pureed cream of potato soup and had a few spoons of that. I love to cook, so I still cook for my family. There are some longing twinges here and there, but I didn't get to weigh almost 400 by denying myself so I figure I've tasted about everything in my 53 years and I can do without for a few years and then in very limited amounts after that. I've been following the South Beach diet for my hiusband's diabeties and the gourmet goodies are fun to prepare. I make him these gargantuan chocolate double-dipped strawberries, and know it may be a year or more, but one day I may be able to have one...very slowly. Can food be sexual? Love, Joyce ___________________________________________________ Try the New Netscape Mail Today! Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List http://mail.netscape.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 Joyce: I think there is something very sensual about food and eating, particularly when preparing and sharing food with others. Maybe it's had to believe, but I enjoy food now more that I did when I ate whatever I wanted. And here's why... In my pre-op support groups I learned about mindful eating. Now I don't inhale food (no only because I can't) but because I choose food that I love and I prepare it (or order it) to be its most delicious (to me). I take small bites and think about the flavor and texture and just enjoy the fact that I can eat. There is also nothing quite so delicious as the flavor of good food or drink on a partner's lips. I'm embarrassed to admit this, but while I don't like to drink alcoholic drinks, I LOVE a kiss flavored by a good glass of wine or a stiff drink. Even a beer flavored kiss is wonderful. I love the way all drinks smell, but I'm not tempted to drink any of it because I never have enjoyed the flavor. Regarding cottage cheese, it is one of my staples. It is so protein rich so the proportion of calories to protein is fantastic. A cup of cottage has 26 g of protein, and sometimes one cup is a whole meal for me (and I mix in spices to vary the flavors... so yummy). I'm wondering what Lilka has to say about food and sensuality... Francisco > > Hi Lilka, > I'm glad you are feeling less pain. Pain will definately slow our > recovery. I've been taking liquid vicodan for pain when I don't have > to drive, and I think I may be back on Darvocet pills when/if my > stomach can take it for arthritis pain. > I spoke too soon about doing well. I spent Friday at Kaiser because 2 > of my incisions were pink and infected-looking. So now I'm taking > Keflex antibiotics that knock me on my -ss. > I noticed cottage cheese was not on the list of Stage II foods, but it > was listed in the meal plan for stage II on the same page. I choose to > interpret that as an oversite on the part of the person who typed up > the list and craved fresh protein, so I eat it, but reeeally chew it > thoroughly. So far, so good. One of the post ops I met earlier told me > that cottage cheese " Doubles " saved her on stage II. You probably don't > want the sugar, so go easy if you try it. I just think back 20 years > ago when my daughter was an infant and I tried a new food on her. > Today I pureed cream of potato soup and had a few spoons of that. > I love to cook, so I still cook for my family. There are some longing > twinges here and there, but I didn't get to weigh almost 400 by denying > myself so I figure I've tasted about everything in my 53 years and I > can do without for a few years and then in very limited amounts after > that. I've been following the South Beach diet for my hiusband's > diabeties and the gourmet goodies are fun to prepare. I make him these > gargantuan chocolate double-dipped strawberries, and know it may be a > year or more, but one day I may be able to have one...very slowly. Can > food be sexual? > Love, Joyce > > ___________________________________________________ > Try the New Netscape Mail Today! > Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List > http://mail.netscape.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2006 Report Share Posted February 6, 2006 Joyce: I think there is something very sensual about food and eating, particularly when preparing and sharing food with others. Maybe it's had to believe, but I enjoy food now more that I did when I ate whatever I wanted. And here's why... In my pre-op support groups I learned about mindful eating. Now I don't inhale food (no only because I can't) but because I choose food that I love and I prepare it (or order it) to be its most delicious (to me). I take small bites and think about the flavor and texture and just enjoy the fact that I can eat. There is also nothing quite so delicious as the flavor of good food or drink on a partner's lips. I'm embarrassed to admit this, but while I don't like to drink alcoholic drinks, I LOVE a kiss flavored by a good glass of wine or a stiff drink. Even a beer flavored kiss is wonderful. I love the way all drinks smell, but I'm not tempted to drink any of it because I never have enjoyed the flavor. Regarding cottage cheese, it is one of my staples. It is so protein rich so the proportion of calories to protein is fantastic. A cup of cottage has 26 g of protein, and sometimes one cup is a whole meal for me (and I mix in spices to vary the flavors... so yummy). I'm wondering what Lilka has to say about food and sensuality... Francisco > > Hi Lilka, > I'm glad you are feeling less pain. Pain will definately slow our > recovery. I've been taking liquid vicodan for pain when I don't have > to drive, and I think I may be back on Darvocet pills when/if my > stomach can take it for arthritis pain. > I spoke too soon about doing well. I spent Friday at Kaiser because 2 > of my incisions were pink and infected-looking. So now I'm taking > Keflex antibiotics that knock me on my -ss. > I noticed cottage cheese was not on the list of Stage II foods, but it > was listed in the meal plan for stage II on the same page. I choose to > interpret that as an oversite on the part of the person who typed up > the list and craved fresh protein, so I eat it, but reeeally chew it > thoroughly. So far, so good. One of the post ops I met earlier told me > that cottage cheese " Doubles " saved her on stage II. You probably don't > want the sugar, so go easy if you try it. I just think back 20 years > ago when my daughter was an infant and I tried a new food on her. > Today I pureed cream of potato soup and had a few spoons of that. > I love to cook, so I still cook for my family. There are some longing > twinges here and there, but I didn't get to weigh almost 400 by denying > myself so I figure I've tasted about everything in my 53 years and I > can do without for a few years and then in very limited amounts after > that. I've been following the South Beach diet for my hiusband's > diabeties and the gourmet goodies are fun to prepare. I make him these > gargantuan chocolate double-dipped strawberries, and know it may be a > year or more, but one day I may be able to have one...very slowly. Can > food be sexual? > Love, Joyce > > ___________________________________________________ > Try the New Netscape Mail Today! > Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List > http://mail.netscape.com > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Well, I think there is definitely a correlation. I have always gained weight when I'm in relationships that are not sexual enough for me...and I have always lost weight when I'm getting sex on a regular and satisfying basis. I think I eat out of sexual frustration a lot of times. Also, food engages all of your senses. Taste, touch, sound, sight and smell. There aren't too many things that hit all of your senses at once in that way. Sex does. Food does. But what else, really? So, it's sensual overload. ANd always, when you take the time to really experience the senses in a real and present way...you get more connected to it...and it is more satisfying. So, yep. Eating is sexual for me. But, I'm trying to stick with just pure sex. Fewer calories consumed, and a lot more calories burned!!! ; ) Robynn manisodream wrote: Joyce:I think there is something very sensual about food and eating, particularly when preparing and sharing food with others.Maybe it's had to believe, but I enjoy food now more that I did when I ate whatever I wanted. And here's why...In my pre-op support groups I learned about mindful eating. Now I don't inhale food (no only because I can't) but because I choose food that I love and I prepare it (or order it) to be its most delicious (to me). I take small bites and think about the flavor and texture and just enjoy the fact that I can eat.There is also nothing quite so delicious as the flavor of good food or drink on a partner's lips. I'm embarrassed to admit this, but while I don't like to drink alcoholic drinks, I LOVE a kiss flavored by a good glass of wine or a stiff drink. Even a beer flavored kiss is wonderful. I love the way all drinks smell, but I'm not tempted to drink any of it because I never have enjoyed the flavor.Regarding cottage cheese, it is one of my staples. It is so protein rich so the proportion of calories to protein is fantastic. A cup of cottage has 26 g of protein, and sometimes one cup is a whole meal for me (and I mix in spices to vary the flavors... so yummy).I'm wondering what Lilka has to say about food and sensuality...Francisco>> Hi Lilka,> I'm glad you are feeling less pain. Pain will definately slow our > recovery. I've been taking liquid vicodan for pain when I don't have > to drive, and I think I may be back on Darvocet pills when/if my > stomach can take it for arthritis pain.> I spoke too soon about doing well. I spent Friday at Kaiser because 2 > of my incisions were pink and infected-looking. So now I'm taking > Keflex antibiotics that knock me on my -ss.> I noticed cottage cheese was not on the list of Stage II foods, but it > was listed in the meal plan for stage II on the same page. I choose to > interpret that as an oversite on the part of the person who typed up > the list and craved fresh protein, so I eat it, but reeeally chew it > thoroughly. So far, so good. One of the post ops I met earlier told me > that cottage cheese" Doubles" saved her on stage II. You probably don't > want the sugar, so go easy if you try it. I just think back 20 years > ago when my daughter was an infant and I tried a new food on her. > Today I pureed cream of potato soup and had a few spoons of that.> I love to cook, so I still cook for my family. There are some longing > twinges here and there, but I didn't get to weigh almost 400 by denying > myself so I figure I've tasted about everything in my 53 years and I > can do without for a few years and then in very limited amounts after > that. I've been following the South Beach diet for my hiusband's > diabeties and the gourmet goodies are fun to prepare. I make him these > gargantuan chocolate double-dipped strawberries, and know it may be a > year or more, but one day I may be able to have one...very slowly. Can > food be sexual?> Love, Joyce> > ___________________________________________________> Try the New Netscape Mail Today!> Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List> http://mail.netscape.com> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Well, I think there is definitely a correlation. I have always gained weight when I'm in relationships that are not sexual enough for me...and I have always lost weight when I'm getting sex on a regular and satisfying basis. I think I eat out of sexual frustration a lot of times. Also, food engages all of your senses. Taste, touch, sound, sight and smell. There aren't too many things that hit all of your senses at once in that way. Sex does. Food does. But what else, really? So, it's sensual overload. ANd always, when you take the time to really experience the senses in a real and present way...you get more connected to it...and it is more satisfying. So, yep. Eating is sexual for me. But, I'm trying to stick with just pure sex. Fewer calories consumed, and a lot more calories burned!!! ; ) Robynn manisodream wrote: Joyce:I think there is something very sensual about food and eating, particularly when preparing and sharing food with others.Maybe it's had to believe, but I enjoy food now more that I did when I ate whatever I wanted. And here's why...In my pre-op support groups I learned about mindful eating. Now I don't inhale food (no only because I can't) but because I choose food that I love and I prepare it (or order it) to be its most delicious (to me). I take small bites and think about the flavor and texture and just enjoy the fact that I can eat.There is also nothing quite so delicious as the flavor of good food or drink on a partner's lips. I'm embarrassed to admit this, but while I don't like to drink alcoholic drinks, I LOVE a kiss flavored by a good glass of wine or a stiff drink. Even a beer flavored kiss is wonderful. I love the way all drinks smell, but I'm not tempted to drink any of it because I never have enjoyed the flavor.Regarding cottage cheese, it is one of my staples. It is so protein rich so the proportion of calories to protein is fantastic. A cup of cottage has 26 g of protein, and sometimes one cup is a whole meal for me (and I mix in spices to vary the flavors... so yummy).I'm wondering what Lilka has to say about food and sensuality...Francisco>> Hi Lilka,> I'm glad you are feeling less pain. Pain will definately slow our > recovery. I've been taking liquid vicodan for pain when I don't have > to drive, and I think I may be back on Darvocet pills when/if my > stomach can take it for arthritis pain.> I spoke too soon about doing well. I spent Friday at Kaiser because 2 > of my incisions were pink and infected-looking. So now I'm taking > Keflex antibiotics that knock me on my -ss.> I noticed cottage cheese was not on the list of Stage II foods, but it > was listed in the meal plan for stage II on the same page. I choose to > interpret that as an oversite on the part of the person who typed up > the list and craved fresh protein, so I eat it, but reeeally chew it > thoroughly. So far, so good. One of the post ops I met earlier told me > that cottage cheese" Doubles" saved her on stage II. You probably don't > want the sugar, so go easy if you try it. I just think back 20 years > ago when my daughter was an infant and I tried a new food on her. > Today I pureed cream of potato soup and had a few spoons of that.> I love to cook, so I still cook for my family. There are some longing > twinges here and there, but I didn't get to weigh almost 400 by denying > myself so I figure I've tasted about everything in my 53 years and I > can do without for a few years and then in very limited amounts after > that. I've been following the South Beach diet for my hiusband's > diabeties and the gourmet goodies are fun to prepare. I make him these > gargantuan chocolate double-dipped strawberries, and know it may be a > year or more, but one day I may be able to have one...very slowly. Can > food be sexual?> Love, Joyce> > ___________________________________________________> Try the New Netscape Mail Today!> Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List> http://mail.netscape.com> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 lol, Robynn, you so crazy girl but I have to say I love you for it. Pam Marsh --- Robynn VanPatten wrote: > Well, I think there is definitely a correlation. I > have always gained weight when I'm in relationships > that are not sexual enough for me...and I have > always lost weight when I'm getting sex on a regular > and satisfying basis. I think I eat out of sexual > frustration a lot of times. > > Also, food engages all of your senses. Taste, > touch, sound, sight and smell. There aren't too > many things that hit all of your senses at once in > that way. Sex does. Food does. But what else, > really? So, it's sensual overload. ANd always, > when you take the time to really experience the > senses in a real and present way...you get more > connected to it...and it is more satisfying. > > So, yep. Eating is sexual for me. But, I'm > trying to stick with just pure sex. Fewer calories > consumed, and a lot more calories burned!!! ; ) > > Robynn > > manisodream wrote: > Joyce: > > I think there is something very sensual about food > and eating, > particularly when preparing and sharing food with > others. > > Maybe it's had to believe, but I enjoy food now more > that I did when > I ate whatever I wanted. And here's why... > > In my pre-op support groups I learned about mindful > eating. Now I > don't inhale food (no only because I can't) but > because I choose food > that I love and I prepare it (or order it) to be its > most delicious > (to me). I take small bites and think about the > flavor and texture > and just enjoy the fact that I can eat. > > There is also nothing quite so delicious as the > flavor of good food > or drink on a partner's lips. I'm embarrassed to > admit this, but > while I don't like to drink alcoholic drinks, I LOVE > a kiss flavored > by a good glass of wine or a stiff drink. Even a > beer flavored kiss > is wonderful. I love the way all drinks smell, but > I'm not tempted > to drink any of it because I never have enjoyed the > flavor. > > Regarding cottage cheese, it is one of my staples. > It is so protein > rich so the proportion of calories to protein is > fantastic. A cup of > cottage has 26 g of protein, and sometimes one cup > is a whole meal > for me (and I mix in spices to vary the flavors... > so yummy). > > I'm wondering what Lilka has to say about food and > sensuality... > > Francisco > > > > > > > > Hi Lilka, > > I'm glad you are feeling less pain. Pain will > definately slow our > > recovery. I've been taking liquid vicodan for > pain when I don't > have > > to drive, and I think I may be back on Darvocet > pills when/if my > > stomach can take it for arthritis pain. > > I spoke too soon about doing well. I spent Friday > at Kaiser > because 2 > > of my incisions were pink and infected-looking. > So now I'm taking > > Keflex antibiotics that knock me on my -ss. > > I noticed cottage cheese was not on the list of > Stage II foods, but > it > > was listed in the meal plan for stage II on the > same page. I > choose to > > interpret that as an oversite on the part of the > person who typed > up > > the list and craved fresh protein, so I eat it, > but reeeally chew > it > > thoroughly. So far, so good. One of the post ops > I met earlier > told me > > that cottage cheese " Doubles " saved her on stage > II. You probably > don't > > want the sugar, so go easy if you try it. I just > think back 20 > years > > ago when my daughter was an infant and I tried a > new food on her. > > Today I pureed cream of potato soup and had a few > spoons of that. > > I love to cook, so I still cook for my family. > There are some > longing > > twinges here and there, but I didn't get to weigh > almost 400 by > denying > > myself so I figure I've tasted about everything in > my 53 years and > I > > can do without for a few years and then in very > limited amounts > after > > that. I've been following the South Beach diet > for my hiusband's > > diabeties and the gourmet goodies are fun to > prepare. I make him > these > > gargantuan chocolate double-dipped strawberries, > and know it may be > a > > year or more, but one day I may be able to have > one...very slowly. > Can > > food be sexual? > > Love, Joyce > > > > > ___________________________________________________ > > Try the New Netscape Mail Today! > > Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your > Contact List > > http://mail.netscape.com > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 lol, Robynn, you so crazy girl but I have to say I love you for it. Pam Marsh --- Robynn VanPatten wrote: > Well, I think there is definitely a correlation. I > have always gained weight when I'm in relationships > that are not sexual enough for me...and I have > always lost weight when I'm getting sex on a regular > and satisfying basis. I think I eat out of sexual > frustration a lot of times. > > Also, food engages all of your senses. Taste, > touch, sound, sight and smell. There aren't too > many things that hit all of your senses at once in > that way. Sex does. Food does. But what else, > really? So, it's sensual overload. ANd always, > when you take the time to really experience the > senses in a real and present way...you get more > connected to it...and it is more satisfying. > > So, yep. Eating is sexual for me. But, I'm > trying to stick with just pure sex. Fewer calories > consumed, and a lot more calories burned!!! ; ) > > Robynn > > manisodream wrote: > Joyce: > > I think there is something very sensual about food > and eating, > particularly when preparing and sharing food with > others. > > Maybe it's had to believe, but I enjoy food now more > that I did when > I ate whatever I wanted. And here's why... > > In my pre-op support groups I learned about mindful > eating. Now I > don't inhale food (no only because I can't) but > because I choose food > that I love and I prepare it (or order it) to be its > most delicious > (to me). I take small bites and think about the > flavor and texture > and just enjoy the fact that I can eat. > > There is also nothing quite so delicious as the > flavor of good food > or drink on a partner's lips. I'm embarrassed to > admit this, but > while I don't like to drink alcoholic drinks, I LOVE > a kiss flavored > by a good glass of wine or a stiff drink. Even a > beer flavored kiss > is wonderful. I love the way all drinks smell, but > I'm not tempted > to drink any of it because I never have enjoyed the > flavor. > > Regarding cottage cheese, it is one of my staples. > It is so protein > rich so the proportion of calories to protein is > fantastic. A cup of > cottage has 26 g of protein, and sometimes one cup > is a whole meal > for me (and I mix in spices to vary the flavors... > so yummy). > > I'm wondering what Lilka has to say about food and > sensuality... > > Francisco > > > > > > > > Hi Lilka, > > I'm glad you are feeling less pain. Pain will > definately slow our > > recovery. I've been taking liquid vicodan for > pain when I don't > have > > to drive, and I think I may be back on Darvocet > pills when/if my > > stomach can take it for arthritis pain. > > I spoke too soon about doing well. I spent Friday > at Kaiser > because 2 > > of my incisions were pink and infected-looking. > So now I'm taking > > Keflex antibiotics that knock me on my -ss. > > I noticed cottage cheese was not on the list of > Stage II foods, but > it > > was listed in the meal plan for stage II on the > same page. I > choose to > > interpret that as an oversite on the part of the > person who typed > up > > the list and craved fresh protein, so I eat it, > but reeeally chew > it > > thoroughly. So far, so good. One of the post ops > I met earlier > told me > > that cottage cheese " Doubles " saved her on stage > II. You probably > don't > > want the sugar, so go easy if you try it. I just > think back 20 > years > > ago when my daughter was an infant and I tried a > new food on her. > > Today I pureed cream of potato soup and had a few > spoons of that. > > I love to cook, so I still cook for my family. > There are some > longing > > twinges here and there, but I didn't get to weigh > almost 400 by > denying > > myself so I figure I've tasted about everything in > my 53 years and > I > > can do without for a few years and then in very > limited amounts > after > > that. I've been following the South Beach diet > for my hiusband's > > diabeties and the gourmet goodies are fun to > prepare. I make him > these > > gargantuan chocolate double-dipped strawberries, > and know it may be > a > > year or more, but one day I may be able to have > one...very slowly. > Can > > food be sexual? > > Love, Joyce > > > > > ___________________________________________________ > > Try the New Netscape Mail Today! > > Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your > Contact List > > http://mail.netscape.com > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Well, Francisco, I can not believe that I met you.It was just too fantastic. I met Francisco at my therapy class in the S Bay by complete surprise. I also met Cathy . What fun. And we talked a lot about fun today. That was fun!!!! Having fun is not a problem for me. Other things are harder for me but I love fun and eating was certainly one of the ways I had fun. I still find my small portions fun and eating is indeed a sensual affair. My husband and I gained weight from the day we met by going out to eat. He loves food more than me. I just liked to eat whatever whenever. Well, things have changed. Today I reset my goal weight from 170 to 130. I realized that this might take me more than a year and a half of eating weighed and measured portions. O well, who cares? This is my path from now on in my life. Tonight I had 1/4 cup of salmon. The most delicious of my life. I was mindful of every bite. I sucked, chewed, played with the tiny piece in my mouth. This is my first day of eating proteins (Richmond doctors) and I seem to tolerate cottage cheese, low fat mozzerella, and salmon. I can so easily destroy that fun and sensuality by eating the wrong foods, the wrong way, at the wrong time. I am ever vigilant today. It was great to see you Francisco and Cathy. May we meet many more times and not just on the Internet. Lilka > > > > Hi Lilka, > > I'm glad you are feeling less pain. Pain will definately slow our > > recovery. I've been taking liquid vicodan for pain when I don't > have > > to drive, and I think I may be back on Darvocet pills when/if my > > stomach can take it for arthritis pain. > > I spoke too soon about doing well. I spent Friday at Kaiser > because 2 > > of my incisions were pink and infected-looking. So now I'm taking > > Keflex antibiotics that knock me on my -ss. > > I noticed cottage cheese was not on the list of Stage II foods, but > it > > was listed in the meal plan for stage II on the same page. I > choose to > > interpret that as an oversite on the part of the person who typed > up > > the list and craved fresh protein, so I eat it, but reeeally chew > it > > thoroughly. So far, so good. One of the post ops I met earlier > told me > > that cottage cheese " Doubles " saved her on stage II. You probably > don't > > want the sugar, so go easy if you try it. I just think back 20 > years > > ago when my daughter was an infant and I tried a new food on her. > > Today I pureed cream of potato soup and had a few spoons of that. > > I love to cook, so I still cook for my family. There are some > longing > > twinges here and there, but I didn't get to weigh almost 400 by > denying > > myself so I figure I've tasted about everything in my 53 years and > I > > can do without for a few years and then in very limited amounts > after > > that. I've been following the South Beach diet for my hiusband's > > diabeties and the gourmet goodies are fun to prepare. I make him > these > > gargantuan chocolate double-dipped strawberries, and know it may be > a > > year or more, but one day I may be able to have one...very slowly. > Can > > food be sexual? > > Love, Joyce > > > > ___________________________________________________ > > Try the New Netscape Mail Today! > > Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List > > http://mail.netscape.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2006 Report Share Posted February 7, 2006 Well, Francisco, I can not believe that I met you.It was just too fantastic. I met Francisco at my therapy class in the S Bay by complete surprise. I also met Cathy . What fun. And we talked a lot about fun today. That was fun!!!! Having fun is not a problem for me. Other things are harder for me but I love fun and eating was certainly one of the ways I had fun. I still find my small portions fun and eating is indeed a sensual affair. My husband and I gained weight from the day we met by going out to eat. He loves food more than me. I just liked to eat whatever whenever. Well, things have changed. Today I reset my goal weight from 170 to 130. I realized that this might take me more than a year and a half of eating weighed and measured portions. O well, who cares? This is my path from now on in my life. Tonight I had 1/4 cup of salmon. The most delicious of my life. I was mindful of every bite. I sucked, chewed, played with the tiny piece in my mouth. This is my first day of eating proteins (Richmond doctors) and I seem to tolerate cottage cheese, low fat mozzerella, and salmon. I can so easily destroy that fun and sensuality by eating the wrong foods, the wrong way, at the wrong time. I am ever vigilant today. It was great to see you Francisco and Cathy. May we meet many more times and not just on the Internet. Lilka > > > > Hi Lilka, > > I'm glad you are feeling less pain. Pain will definately slow our > > recovery. I've been taking liquid vicodan for pain when I don't > have > > to drive, and I think I may be back on Darvocet pills when/if my > > stomach can take it for arthritis pain. > > I spoke too soon about doing well. I spent Friday at Kaiser > because 2 > > of my incisions were pink and infected-looking. So now I'm taking > > Keflex antibiotics that knock me on my -ss. > > I noticed cottage cheese was not on the list of Stage II foods, but > it > > was listed in the meal plan for stage II on the same page. I > choose to > > interpret that as an oversite on the part of the person who typed > up > > the list and craved fresh protein, so I eat it, but reeeally chew > it > > thoroughly. So far, so good. One of the post ops I met earlier > told me > > that cottage cheese " Doubles " saved her on stage II. You probably > don't > > want the sugar, so go easy if you try it. I just think back 20 > years > > ago when my daughter was an infant and I tried a new food on her. > > Today I pureed cream of potato soup and had a few spoons of that. > > I love to cook, so I still cook for my family. There are some > longing > > twinges here and there, but I didn't get to weigh almost 400 by > denying > > myself so I figure I've tasted about everything in my 53 years and > I > > can do without for a few years and then in very limited amounts > after > > that. I've been following the South Beach diet for my hiusband's > > diabeties and the gourmet goodies are fun to prepare. I make him > these > > gargantuan chocolate double-dipped strawberries, and know it may be > a > > year or more, but one day I may be able to have one...very slowly. > Can > > food be sexual? > > Love, Joyce > > > > ___________________________________________________ > > Try the New Netscape Mail Today! > > Virtually Spam-Free | More Storage | Import Your Contact List > > http://mail.netscape.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 I'm sorry I didn't see this yesterday, but it was orientation day for me and that meant a looong day in SSF - wonderful, though! And even more wonderful to get a chance to meed Francisco and Lilka in person. Francisco, you looked JUST like your pictures (he's a real cutie!) Lilka, you looked absolutely wonderful, esp. considering that you're only two weeks post-op. As for the " food as sex " thread: I think that almost anything can " be sex " in the same way as food - it depends on how sensually aware we are of what's going on and what we're experiencing in the moment. If you're not mindful, if you're not sensually aware, then even sex isn't really sexual; it's just another physical activity. If you are, then you can experience some of the same almost orgiastic pleasure in the taste of a berry or the feel of a silk shirt as you do in sex. . . it's the heightened awareness that makes all the difference. Cathy C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2006 Report Share Posted February 8, 2006 I'm sorry I didn't see this yesterday, but it was orientation day for me and that meant a looong day in SSF - wonderful, though! And even more wonderful to get a chance to meed Francisco and Lilka in person. Francisco, you looked JUST like your pictures (he's a real cutie!) Lilka, you looked absolutely wonderful, esp. considering that you're only two weeks post-op. As for the " food as sex " thread: I think that almost anything can " be sex " in the same way as food - it depends on how sensually aware we are of what's going on and what we're experiencing in the moment. If you're not mindful, if you're not sensually aware, then even sex isn't really sexual; it's just another physical activity. If you are, then you can experience some of the same almost orgiastic pleasure in the taste of a berry or the feel of a silk shirt as you do in sex. . . it's the heightened awareness that makes all the difference. Cathy C. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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