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Sharon-

I know this post was directed at but I want to stick in my .02.

I had my gall bladder out after losing about 70 lbs while living in

Europe. My feel9ings are that the gall bladder is pretty unnecessary

and many people who have perfectly healthy gall bladders end up with

stones after a rapid and dramatic weight loss like one that comes

with WLS. This is not to say *everyone* will have problems. Now

that I have had the DS surgery I know that I am glad my gall bladder

is gone. Basically, one less thing to have something go wrong with.

I never missed it after I had it out, either. And boy, if you are a

person who ends up having gallstones, man those things hurt like the

devil! I think I would rather have someone pull all my fingernails

out than go through that kind of pain again. It was worse than 12

hours of hard labor. :)

Also consider some surgeons will not do the surgery without taking

out the gall bladder as well.

Anyhow, my most opinionated and unprofessional opinion is that gall

bladders only serve to cause pain and suffering, get rid of the darn

thing!

Amy

> > There is a fundamental anatomical and physiological

> > error here. The

> > stomach has nothing to do with bile. Bile is

> > produced in the liver

> > and stored in the gall bladder and exceted into the

> > intestine.

> >

>

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> Thanks for responding Amy. Did your body react in a

> noticable way after you had it out ? I agree that I

> DONT want to undergo sugery again after my switch so

> I'm sure it's best to do it all at once. Thanks for

> the .02

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I'm not Amy but I can tell you a little about gallbladder stuff. I

had mine out a little over a year ago and have had terrible bowel

problems since. Some days it would take 5 Imodium to stop me from

going. I know a few other people that have had this same thing

happen. It was so negatively impacting my life and I was scared of

what would happen after I had the DS. Well so far (it's only been two

weeks) while the smell is certainly worse, the frequency and cramping

is much better than before!

Just my .02

Open DS with Dr. Anthone 7/6/01 - 261

7/23/01 - 243

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> Thanks for responding Amy. Did your body react in a

> noticable way after you had it out ? I agree that I

> DONT want to undergo sugery again after my switch so

> I'm sure it's best to do it all at once. Thanks for

> the .02

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I'm not Amy but I can tell you a little about gallbladder stuff. I

had mine out a little over a year ago and have had terrible bowel

problems since. Some days it would take 5 Imodium to stop me from

going. I know a few other people that have had this same thing

happen. It was so negatively impacting my life and I was scared of

what would happen after I had the DS. Well so far (it's only been two

weeks) while the smell is certainly worse, the frequency and cramping

is much better than before!

Just my .02

Open DS with Dr. Anthone 7/6/01 - 261

7/23/01 - 243

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Sharon-

A little more on the gall bladder: Bile is a substance produced in

the liver that emulsifies fat(sort of like dissolving for sugar but

since fat doesn't dissolve in water it must be emulsified in bile).

After it is emulsified then the digestive enzymes can break the fats

down and they can be absorbed. Normally the function of the gall

bladder is to store bile and when the liver's normal bile production

isn't sufficient(i.e. you eat Mcs and Movie theater popcorn

with extra butter :) ) the gall bladder gives an extra squirt of

bile. Well, if you can't get that extra squirt then the fat doesn't

all get emulsified, is not completely absorbed and then ends up

coming out the other end.

I did have some problems with diarrhea when I ate super greasy food

but that mostly went away and was very much controlled by limiting my

fat intake to 'normal' levels. Before my DS surgery the only thing

that would really set me off was a cheeseburger meal from Mcs

w/ supersized fries. :) Bad, bad, bad!! I have to say that the

other thing the doc said is sometimes people have problems who don't

get enough fiber as fiber will often absorb alot of that excess fat

that your body doesn't absorb in the digestive tract. This helps

keep the runs to a minimum. Fiber was never much of an issue for me

as I loved to eat oatmeal(everyday for breakfast and sometimes lunch).

Well, theres my second .02. :)

Amy

> > Thanks for responding Amy. Did your body react in a

> > noticable way after you had it out ? I agree that I

> > DONT want to undergo sugery again after my switch so

> > I'm sure it's best to do it all at once. Thanks for

> > the .02

> -----------------------------------

>

> I'm not Amy but I can tell you a little about gallbladder stuff. I

> had mine out a little over a year ago and have had terrible bowel

> problems since. Some days it would take 5 Imodium to stop me from

> going. I know a few other people that have had this same thing

> happen. It was so negatively impacting my life and I was scared of

> what would happen after I had the DS. Well so far (it's only been

two

> weeks) while the smell is certainly worse, the frequency and

cramping

> is much better than before!

>

> Just my .02

>

>

> Open DS with Dr. Anthone 7/6/01 - 261

> 7/23/01 - 243

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Sharon-

A little more on the gall bladder: Bile is a substance produced in

the liver that emulsifies fat(sort of like dissolving for sugar but

since fat doesn't dissolve in water it must be emulsified in bile).

After it is emulsified then the digestive enzymes can break the fats

down and they can be absorbed. Normally the function of the gall

bladder is to store bile and when the liver's normal bile production

isn't sufficient(i.e. you eat Mcs and Movie theater popcorn

with extra butter :) ) the gall bladder gives an extra squirt of

bile. Well, if you can't get that extra squirt then the fat doesn't

all get emulsified, is not completely absorbed and then ends up

coming out the other end.

I did have some problems with diarrhea when I ate super greasy food

but that mostly went away and was very much controlled by limiting my

fat intake to 'normal' levels. Before my DS surgery the only thing

that would really set me off was a cheeseburger meal from Mcs

w/ supersized fries. :) Bad, bad, bad!! I have to say that the

other thing the doc said is sometimes people have problems who don't

get enough fiber as fiber will often absorb alot of that excess fat

that your body doesn't absorb in the digestive tract. This helps

keep the runs to a minimum. Fiber was never much of an issue for me

as I loved to eat oatmeal(everyday for breakfast and sometimes lunch).

Well, theres my second .02. :)

Amy

> > Thanks for responding Amy. Did your body react in a

> > noticable way after you had it out ? I agree that I

> > DONT want to undergo sugery again after my switch so

> > I'm sure it's best to do it all at once. Thanks for

> > the .02

> -----------------------------------

>

> I'm not Amy but I can tell you a little about gallbladder stuff. I

> had mine out a little over a year ago and have had terrible bowel

> problems since. Some days it would take 5 Imodium to stop me from

> going. I know a few other people that have had this same thing

> happen. It was so negatively impacting my life and I was scared of

> what would happen after I had the DS. Well so far (it's only been

two

> weeks) while the smell is certainly worse, the frequency and

cramping

> is much better than before!

>

> Just my .02

>

>

> Open DS with Dr. Anthone 7/6/01 - 261

> 7/23/01 - 243

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The bile is produced in the liver and will be secreted into the

intestines. The gallbaldder is a remnent organ probably there from

the days in which meals were totally meat-- when our species lived

off the land. It's a pretty useless organ really. If your doc is

willing to remove it, excellent.

This is my opinion only

in Seattle

> Hi - > should I ask about leaving my gall bladder in ? Will

> I excrete an excess of bile and have excessive nausea

> or worse ? I know you aren't a doctor and I will ask

> the pros, but if anyone can shed some light on the

> differences in keeping or removing the gall bladder I

> would greatly appreciate it. Thank you.

>

> Sharon in NY

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Hey Amy-- great response!

in Seattle

> Sharon-

>

> I know this post was directed at but I want to stick in

my .02.

> I had my gall bladder out after losing about 70 lbs while living in

> Europe. My feel9ings are that the gall bladder is pretty

unnecessary

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I had my gallbladder removed in Oct 1988. It cured my constipation

but I never had any problems with liquid stools or diarrhea.

I'm 6+ months out on my D and have no such problems now.

in Seattle

> I'm not Amy but I can tell you a little about gallbladder stuff. I

> had mine out a little over a year ago and have had terrible bowel

> problems since. Some days it would take 5 Imodium to stop me from

> going. I know a few other people that have had this same thing

> happen. It was so negatively impacting my life and I was scared of

> what would happen after I had the DS. Well so far (it's only been

two

> weeks) while the smell is certainly worse, the frequency and

cramping

> is much better than before!

>

> Just my .02

>

>

>

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