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Hi ,

It takes about 6-8 weeks to see the maximum effects of meds. So your labs

wouldn't have changed much in a few weeks. However, the usual starting dose for

methimazole is 30 mg daily. In some cases doctors start their patients on lower

doses to see how they tolerate the meds and then they slowly increase the

meds.

After 6-8 weeks on meds, though, you need a lower dose since the thyroid

hormone in your gland should have been used up. At this time most people are on

a

maintenance dose of 2.5-10.0 mg methimazole daily. You should be monitored

with FT4 and FT3 levels since TSH can take a very long time to rise. Take care,

elaine

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Hi ,

Welcome. Glad you are getting treatment. How are you feeling?

TSH stays suppressed in active GD, so not to worry if it is still low; that

would just mean that antibodies are present; it is the FT3 and FT4 that

determine if you are in range, or " euthyroid, " and everyone has their own

set point, which is the level at which they feel best.

If you haven't had a TSI test, you may want to request it, as that is the

only way to confirm the diagnosis of Graves'. It is also good to get Free

T3 as well as Free T4, as these are the thyroid levels that most accurately

reflect the available hormone in your system. Free T3 and TSI tests are

expensive, so if you don't have insurance, you will need to decide how

often they fit within your budget. TSI tests should not be repeated sooner

than every 3 months, as it takes that long for the proteins that comprise

the antibodies to degrade (so they will hang around for that long).

If you haven't already, I would suggest that you see Pam B's open letter to

the newly diagnosed in the Files section

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/graves_support/files/ , and also read Thyroid

Awareness 101 at mediboard.com

http://www.mediboard.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=004549

Let us know if you have any questions, and how you're doing.

At 03:48 PM 9/15/2003, you wrote:

>Hi,

>I had my annual physical in August and the blood work came back with

>the TSH at 0.01. Then I had another blood test and they showed Free

>T4 at 2.5 and TSH at 0.01. Then I had a TNC – Thyroid UPT and

>scan

>multiple which was on two days. Then I started to take 2 Methimazole

>5 Mg pill. Then I had another blood test and the nurse called and

>said to go to three pills. The Free T4 was down to 2.3 & the TSH

>stayed the same. My next blood work will be next Monday.

>Regards,

>

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Then I started to take 2 Methimazole

>

> 5 Mg pill.

Is this for a total of 10 mg. a day? Also, are you taking it all at once

or in at least 2 doses a day?

Then I had another blood test and the nurse called and

> said to go to three pills. The Free T4 was down to 2.3 & the TSH

> stayed the same.

One more question: do you keep copies of all your records?

Wait, this is the last question: do you have any symptoms?

I did quite well on Methimazole (the brand name Tapazole and the generic)

with fairly active Graves Disease. I wonder why you were told to increase

the methimazole if it seemed to be working. There are 2 possibilities:

- that your dr. felt 10 mg. isn't potent enough and there should have

been a more dramatic decrease in the FT4

- that your dr. wanted to start you off at a low dose to see if you can

tolerate the meds and plans to gradually raise it.

The second is a common MO but not a good one. Ideally the dr. should

start you on what he thinks is a maximum dose, which with mild

hyperthyroidism is likely to be between 10 and 20 and then gradually

decrease it. If that was his plan, but he erred in starting you at 10,

nothing to worry about and 15 makes it easier to take the meds in 3 even

doses (the ideal, though I took mine twice a day not being aware of

this). If you corner your dr. and he admits to the second being his game

plan, I wouldn't be surprised if your dr. is one of those characters who

goes by TSH primarily and planned to keep you at 20 till you showed signs

of hypothyroidism.

Please don't think I'm paranoid or neurotic but I've seen this happen too

often.

I have a friend who is on Tap, also with no or little symptoms but based

on bloodwork alone. It's weird to be on something so potent when you're

feeling normal but it's a good option, definitely the best the drs. will

offer for hyperthyroidism.

Take care, Fay

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Hey Everyone!

My name is Janet, and I am 49 yrs old, live in Los Angelesl area. I've

been lurking here for about 10 mos, on and off, and I am having my

surgery Wed, March 1st! I'm very excited and scared. I start my bowel

prep on Monday, and then off to UCLA (via Kaiser) on Wednesday.

I have rearranged my entire life for this. I have put my condo on the

market for sale and moved in with my fiance. This will allow me to not

work for 6 - 8 weeks, and then to only work about 30 hrs/week afterwards.

I plan to start walking as soon as I get home (just up and down the

block) and have made room in my life for 2hrs a day at the gym, so I

can reward myself with a nice steam room visit or jacuzzi afterwards.

I've sent away for sample packets from Vitalady so I can see which

ones I tolerate best after surgery. I've been using the Atkins

Advantage powders in my pre-op weight loss, and like the vanilla &

chocolate. I add frozen strawberries to vanilla and banana to the

chocolate. I hope I like them still afterwards. 15 grams protein each

scoop, low cal, low sugars.

Ok, that's enough from me. Just wanted to get my feet wet in this

group, so I'll feel able to post when I get back from surgery.

Have a great day!

Janet

268 Orientation/?

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Hey Everyone!

My name is Janet, and I am 49 yrs old, live in Los Angelesl area. I've

been lurking here for about 10 mos, on and off, and I am having my

surgery Wed, March 1st! I'm very excited and scared. I start my bowel

prep on Monday, and then off to UCLA (via Kaiser) on Wednesday.

I have rearranged my entire life for this. I have put my condo on the

market for sale and moved in with my fiance. This will allow me to not

work for 6 - 8 weeks, and then to only work about 30 hrs/week afterwards.

I plan to start walking as soon as I get home (just up and down the

block) and have made room in my life for 2hrs a day at the gym, so I

can reward myself with a nice steam room visit or jacuzzi afterwards.

I've sent away for sample packets from Vitalady so I can see which

ones I tolerate best after surgery. I've been using the Atkins

Advantage powders in my pre-op weight loss, and like the vanilla &

chocolate. I add frozen strawberries to vanilla and banana to the

chocolate. I hope I like them still afterwards. 15 grams protein each

scoop, low cal, low sugars.

Ok, that's enough from me. Just wanted to get my feet wet in this

group, so I'll feel able to post when I get back from surgery.

Have a great day!

Janet

268 Orientation/?

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Janet Welcome here to a great group of people. Your day will soon be here, and you seem so prepared and have a great attitude. Keep it up and you will do fine. You will be in my prayers and thoughts for your surgery. Please keep us posted. Take care. Donnabreila56 wrote: Hey Everyone!My name is Janet, and I am 49 yrs old, live in Los Angelesl area. I'vebeen lurking here for about 10 mos, on and off, and I am having mysurgery Wed, March 1st! I'm very excited and scared. I start my bowelprep on Monday, and then off to UCLA (via Kaiser) on Wednesday. I have rearranged my entire life for this. I have put my condo on themarket for sale and moved in with my fiance. This will allow me to notwork for 6 - 8 weeks, and then to only work about

30 hrs/week afterwards.I plan to start walking as soon as I get home (just up and down theblock) and have made room in my life for 2hrs a day at the gym, so Ican reward myself with a nice steam room visit or jacuzzi afterwards.I've sent away for sample packets from Vitalady so I can see whichones I tolerate best after surgery. I've been using the AtkinsAdvantage powders in my pre-op weight loss, and like the vanilla & chocolate. I add frozen strawberries to vanilla and banana to thechocolate. I hope I like them still afterwards. 15 grams protein eachscoop, low cal, low sugars.Ok, that's enough from me. Just wanted to get my feet wet in thisgroup, so I'll feel able to post when I get back from surgery.Have a great day!Janet268 Orientation/?Donna JordonDSJordon@...

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Janet Welcome here to a great group of people. Your day will soon be here, and you seem so prepared and have a great attitude. Keep it up and you will do fine. You will be in my prayers and thoughts for your surgery. Please keep us posted. Take care. Donnabreila56 wrote: Hey Everyone!My name is Janet, and I am 49 yrs old, live in Los Angelesl area. I'vebeen lurking here for about 10 mos, on and off, and I am having mysurgery Wed, March 1st! I'm very excited and scared. I start my bowelprep on Monday, and then off to UCLA (via Kaiser) on Wednesday. I have rearranged my entire life for this. I have put my condo on themarket for sale and moved in with my fiance. This will allow me to notwork for 6 - 8 weeks, and then to only work about

30 hrs/week afterwards.I plan to start walking as soon as I get home (just up and down theblock) and have made room in my life for 2hrs a day at the gym, so Ican reward myself with a nice steam room visit or jacuzzi afterwards.I've sent away for sample packets from Vitalady so I can see whichones I tolerate best after surgery. I've been using the AtkinsAdvantage powders in my pre-op weight loss, and like the vanilla & chocolate. I add frozen strawberries to vanilla and banana to thechocolate. I hope I like them still afterwards. 15 grams protein eachscoop, low cal, low sugars.Ok, that's enough from me. Just wanted to get my feet wet in thisgroup, so I'll feel able to post when I get back from surgery.Have a great day!Janet268 Orientation/?Donna JordonDSJordon@...

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Welcome Janet and I wish you well as you begin this

journey. Everything you have had to endure/rearrange

is worth it and you will see this shortly.

Pam Marsh

--- breila56 wrote:

> Hey Everyone!

>

> My name is Janet, and I am 49 yrs old, live in Los

> Angelesl area. I've

> been lurking here for about 10 mos, on and off, and

> I am having my

> surgery Wed, March 1st! I'm very excited and

> scared. I start my bowel

> prep on Monday, and then off to UCLA (via Kaiser) on

> Wednesday.

>

> I have rearranged my entire life for this. I have

> put my condo on the

> market for sale and moved in with my fiance. This

> will allow me to not

> work for 6 - 8 weeks, and then to only work about 30

> hrs/week afterwards.

>

> I plan to start walking as soon as I get home (just

> up and down the

> block) and have made room in my life for 2hrs a day

> at the gym, so I

> can reward myself with a nice steam room visit or

> jacuzzi afterwards.

>

> I've sent away for sample packets from Vitalady so I

> can see which

> ones I tolerate best after surgery. I've been using

> the Atkins

> Advantage powders in my pre-op weight loss, and like

> the vanilla &

> chocolate. I add frozen strawberries to vanilla and

> banana to the

> chocolate. I hope I like them still afterwards. 15

> grams protein each

> scoop, low cal, low sugars.

>

> Ok, that's enough from me. Just wanted to get my

> feet wet in this

> group, so I'll feel able to post when I get back

> from surgery.

>

> Have a great day!

>

> Janet

>

> 268 Orientation/?

>

>

>

>

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Welcome Janet and I wish you well as you begin this

journey. Everything you have had to endure/rearrange

is worth it and you will see this shortly.

Pam Marsh

--- breila56 wrote:

> Hey Everyone!

>

> My name is Janet, and I am 49 yrs old, live in Los

> Angelesl area. I've

> been lurking here for about 10 mos, on and off, and

> I am having my

> surgery Wed, March 1st! I'm very excited and

> scared. I start my bowel

> prep on Monday, and then off to UCLA (via Kaiser) on

> Wednesday.

>

> I have rearranged my entire life for this. I have

> put my condo on the

> market for sale and moved in with my fiance. This

> will allow me to not

> work for 6 - 8 weeks, and then to only work about 30

> hrs/week afterwards.

>

> I plan to start walking as soon as I get home (just

> up and down the

> block) and have made room in my life for 2hrs a day

> at the gym, so I

> can reward myself with a nice steam room visit or

> jacuzzi afterwards.

>

> I've sent away for sample packets from Vitalady so I

> can see which

> ones I tolerate best after surgery. I've been using

> the Atkins

> Advantage powders in my pre-op weight loss, and like

> the vanilla &

> chocolate. I add frozen strawberries to vanilla and

> banana to the

> chocolate. I hope I like them still afterwards. 15

> grams protein each

> scoop, low cal, low sugars.

>

> Ok, that's enough from me. Just wanted to get my

> feet wet in this

> group, so I'll feel able to post when I get back

> from surgery.

>

> Have a great day!

>

> Janet

>

> 268 Orientation/?

>

>

>

>

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Janet, good for you for preparing in the way you have for this surgery...and how lucky you are to be able to reduce your workload so that you can focus on you, your health, your recovery, and your new healthy habits. In the beginning, you may find that adding banana to your drink winds up being difficult to tolerate. Everybody is different, but I know a lot of people who have a hard time with bananas initially. It's kind of odd, because I don't think of them as being overly sweet...but maybe it's the fiber and not the sugar? You should follow what your surgeon has to say about nutrition. At Richmond, they really advocate eating "real food" as opposed to protein shakes, because they think it is a more sustainable long-term lifestyle. The protein shakes can seem to be too much "diet mentality" and you can become rebellious or reactionary to it. There are others, very successful post-ops,

who SWEAR by the shakes. It's an individual journey, I suppose. For me, I use shakes occasionally as meal replacements...and I occasionally rely upon protein bars, because they are more dense, and give you a sense of satisfaction. Drink your water, take your vitamins...be vigilent about not drinking while eating. Don't feel that you need to eat more than your tummy tells you to eat. Revel in the beginning at your little tiny tummy that can't handle much food. That will change with time, so take advantage of it while you can. Keep up the exercise. I got a bit derailed with my normal exercise routine because I became quite anemic for several months afterwards. I am back to doing Pilates 2 times a week (one on one training, so it's pretty intense), and I am trying to get more cardiovascular/weight training in again. It's important. As far as the changes in my life...they are huge. I went from your weight (261.5 when I started this thing, at 5'6"...wearing 18s and 20s) and now I'm 161.5, wearing 8s and 10s. I had my surgery on June 8th, and I haven't lost any weight since December (well, 2 lbs.). It's definitely slowing down. Technically, I need to lose 7.5 lbs. to not be "overweight" anymore, based upon BMI. But, frankly, I look pretty great at this weight. I'm toning up a bit more, and I would like to shed another 10 or 15, to give myself a little bit of wiggle room...and to get rid of the back fat and upper arm fat I still maintain. I'm lucky, in that my skin is just fine...and I'm nearly 42. At first, my stomach really bugged me, it was kind of droopy...and so did my inner thighs. But both are starting to look much better...and my breasts are fine. Ironically, although I lost a bit off of my breasts,

they actually look bigger, because all of the surrounding fat is gone, so they stand out more. I have absolutely no posterior, so I'm working on regaining my muscle there. I used scar cream and vitamin E oil and Aloe Vera pretty much every day (after the first couple of weeks, when the doctor told me it was ok.) Consequently, my scars are already barely noticeable. I can easily fit on airplanes. I can borrow my skinny friend's clothes. I can walk into a Parisian boutique without being sneered at by the skinny French women who work there. I can buy clothes that are on sale...and I buy things that look really good...as opposed to things that look ok, and well...hey, they fit. When I walk into a room, and people are looking at me, I no longer worry that they are looking at me because I'm fat. (now I just worry about whether I have spinach in my teeth...hee

hee.) I'm much smaller than my boyfriend. And even my ex, who is very very thin, has bigger thighs than I do now! I never get the "You'd be so pretty if only you'd just LOOSE weight..." speech anymore. When I look in the mirror, I never feel self-disgust. I can throw on a pair of old jeans and a tee-shirt, and look adorable, instead of like a slob. I was always athletic, and active...so my life wasn't all that impaired by my weight. However, it strikes me that as I dash up the four flights of stairs to my apartment, carrying my laptop and a bag of groceries...I am not even breathing hard. At all. When I went running the other day, the first time I've run at this weight...I expected to run about a block before I had to walk. Instead, I ran 3.5 miles around Lake Merritt...and my body

was no problem. It was more my mind I had to battle (you know,"I can't run this far...I need to walk..."), but my body was just fine. NO more, 'if only I were thin..." running through my head. When I eat something that isn't 100 percent great for me...I don't freak. I just make sure that the next thing I eat is lighter fare, and healthy. When my scale goes up a lb. at my period, I don't freak. I just watch what I eat for the next two or three days...and it balances out and goes back down. Get this: I can feel and SEE a difference in my body when I am only one or two lbs. heavier. This feeling and sight spurs me on to action. I don't let it turn into 3 or 5 or 10 lbs. I used to marvel at people like that. I mean, to gain a lb. or two was NOTHING in my former life. I didn't hit the panic button until it was a LOT more than that.

Now, I weigh once a day...and I balance my eating habits a bit. If my weight goes up a bit, and I'm sure I haven't eaten too much...I up my water, and I take a walk. I don't get depressed and say, "What's the use?" I feel more in control. I feel more in control. And THAT is worth my former weight, in gold. Good luck, RobynnPamela A Marsh wrote: Welcome Janet and I wish you well as you begin thisjourney. Everything you have had to endure/rearrangeis worth it and you will see this shortly.Pam Marsh--- breila56 wrote:> Hey Everyone!> > My name is Janet, and I am 49 yrs old, live in Los> Angelesl area. I've> been lurking here

for about 10 mos, on and off, and> I am having my> surgery Wed, March 1st! I'm very excited and> scared. I start my bowel> prep on Monday, and then off to UCLA (via Kaiser) on> Wednesday. > > I have rearranged my entire life for this. I have> put my condo on the> market for sale and moved in with my fiance. This> will allow me to not> work for 6 - 8 weeks, and then to only work about 30> hrs/week afterwards.> > I plan to start walking as soon as I get home (just> up and down the> block) and have made room in my life for 2hrs a day> at the gym, so I> can reward myself with a nice steam room visit or> jacuzzi afterwards.> > I've sent away for sample packets from Vitalady so I> can see which> ones I tolerate best after surgery. I've been using> the Atkins> Advantage powders in my pre-op weight

loss, and like> the vanilla & > chocolate. I add frozen strawberries to vanilla and> banana to the> chocolate. I hope I like them still afterwards. 15> grams protein each> scoop, low cal, low sugars.> > Ok, that's enough from me. Just wanted to get my> feet wet in this> group, so I'll feel able to post when I get back> from surgery.> > Have a great day!> > Janet> > 268 Orientation/?> > > > __________________________________________________

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Janet, good for you for preparing in the way you have for this surgery...and how lucky you are to be able to reduce your workload so that you can focus on you, your health, your recovery, and your new healthy habits. In the beginning, you may find that adding banana to your drink winds up being difficult to tolerate. Everybody is different, but I know a lot of people who have a hard time with bananas initially. It's kind of odd, because I don't think of them as being overly sweet...but maybe it's the fiber and not the sugar? You should follow what your surgeon has to say about nutrition. At Richmond, they really advocate eating "real food" as opposed to protein shakes, because they think it is a more sustainable long-term lifestyle. The protein shakes can seem to be too much "diet mentality" and you can become rebellious or reactionary to it. There are others, very successful post-ops,

who SWEAR by the shakes. It's an individual journey, I suppose. For me, I use shakes occasionally as meal replacements...and I occasionally rely upon protein bars, because they are more dense, and give you a sense of satisfaction. Drink your water, take your vitamins...be vigilent about not drinking while eating. Don't feel that you need to eat more than your tummy tells you to eat. Revel in the beginning at your little tiny tummy that can't handle much food. That will change with time, so take advantage of it while you can. Keep up the exercise. I got a bit derailed with my normal exercise routine because I became quite anemic for several months afterwards. I am back to doing Pilates 2 times a week (one on one training, so it's pretty intense), and I am trying to get more cardiovascular/weight training in again. It's important. As far as the changes in my life...they are huge. I went from your weight (261.5 when I started this thing, at 5'6"...wearing 18s and 20s) and now I'm 161.5, wearing 8s and 10s. I had my surgery on June 8th, and I haven't lost any weight since December (well, 2 lbs.). It's definitely slowing down. Technically, I need to lose 7.5 lbs. to not be "overweight" anymore, based upon BMI. But, frankly, I look pretty great at this weight. I'm toning up a bit more, and I would like to shed another 10 or 15, to give myself a little bit of wiggle room...and to get rid of the back fat and upper arm fat I still maintain. I'm lucky, in that my skin is just fine...and I'm nearly 42. At first, my stomach really bugged me, it was kind of droopy...and so did my inner thighs. But both are starting to look much better...and my breasts are fine. Ironically, although I lost a bit off of my breasts,

they actually look bigger, because all of the surrounding fat is gone, so they stand out more. I have absolutely no posterior, so I'm working on regaining my muscle there. I used scar cream and vitamin E oil and Aloe Vera pretty much every day (after the first couple of weeks, when the doctor told me it was ok.) Consequently, my scars are already barely noticeable. I can easily fit on airplanes. I can borrow my skinny friend's clothes. I can walk into a Parisian boutique without being sneered at by the skinny French women who work there. I can buy clothes that are on sale...and I buy things that look really good...as opposed to things that look ok, and well...hey, they fit. When I walk into a room, and people are looking at me, I no longer worry that they are looking at me because I'm fat. (now I just worry about whether I have spinach in my teeth...hee

hee.) I'm much smaller than my boyfriend. And even my ex, who is very very thin, has bigger thighs than I do now! I never get the "You'd be so pretty if only you'd just LOOSE weight..." speech anymore. When I look in the mirror, I never feel self-disgust. I can throw on a pair of old jeans and a tee-shirt, and look adorable, instead of like a slob. I was always athletic, and active...so my life wasn't all that impaired by my weight. However, it strikes me that as I dash up the four flights of stairs to my apartment, carrying my laptop and a bag of groceries...I am not even breathing hard. At all. When I went running the other day, the first time I've run at this weight...I expected to run about a block before I had to walk. Instead, I ran 3.5 miles around Lake Merritt...and my body

was no problem. It was more my mind I had to battle (you know,"I can't run this far...I need to walk..."), but my body was just fine. NO more, 'if only I were thin..." running through my head. When I eat something that isn't 100 percent great for me...I don't freak. I just make sure that the next thing I eat is lighter fare, and healthy. When my scale goes up a lb. at my period, I don't freak. I just watch what I eat for the next two or three days...and it balances out and goes back down. Get this: I can feel and SEE a difference in my body when I am only one or two lbs. heavier. This feeling and sight spurs me on to action. I don't let it turn into 3 or 5 or 10 lbs. I used to marvel at people like that. I mean, to gain a lb. or two was NOTHING in my former life. I didn't hit the panic button until it was a LOT more than that.

Now, I weigh once a day...and I balance my eating habits a bit. If my weight goes up a bit, and I'm sure I haven't eaten too much...I up my water, and I take a walk. I don't get depressed and say, "What's the use?" I feel more in control. I feel more in control. And THAT is worth my former weight, in gold. Good luck, RobynnPamela A Marsh wrote: Welcome Janet and I wish you well as you begin thisjourney. Everything you have had to endure/rearrangeis worth it and you will see this shortly.Pam Marsh--- breila56 wrote:> Hey Everyone!> > My name is Janet, and I am 49 yrs old, live in Los> Angelesl area. I've> been lurking here

for about 10 mos, on and off, and> I am having my> surgery Wed, March 1st! I'm very excited and> scared. I start my bowel> prep on Monday, and then off to UCLA (via Kaiser) on> Wednesday. > > I have rearranged my entire life for this. I have> put my condo on the> market for sale and moved in with my fiance. This> will allow me to not> work for 6 - 8 weeks, and then to only work about 30> hrs/week afterwards.> > I plan to start walking as soon as I get home (just> up and down the> block) and have made room in my life for 2hrs a day> at the gym, so I> can reward myself with a nice steam room visit or> jacuzzi afterwards.> > I've sent away for sample packets from Vitalady so I> can see which> ones I tolerate best after surgery. I've been using> the Atkins> Advantage powders in my pre-op weight

loss, and like> the vanilla & > chocolate. I add frozen strawberries to vanilla and> banana to the> chocolate. I hope I like them still afterwards. 15> grams protein each> scoop, low cal, low sugars.> > Ok, that's enough from me. Just wanted to get my> feet wet in this> group, so I'll feel able to post when I get back> from surgery.> > Have a great day!> > Janet> > 268 Orientation/?> > > > __________________________________________________

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Hi Janet- Good luck in your surgery, sounds like you are more than prepared and upbeat and thats good ! cant wait to hear how things went ! Colleenbreila56 wrote: Hey Everyone!My name is Janet, and I am 49 yrs old, live in Los Angelesl area. I'vebeen lurking here for about 10 mos, on and off, and I am having mysurgery Wed, March 1st! I'm very excited and scared. I start my bowelprep on Monday, and then off to UCLA (via Kaiser) on Wednesday. I have rearranged my entire life for this. I have put my condo on themarket for sale and moved in with my fiance. This will allow me to notwork for 6 - 8 weeks, and then to only work about 30 hrs/week afterwards.I plan to start walking as soon as I get home (just up and down theblock) and have made room

in my life for 2hrs a day at the gym, so Ican reward myself with a nice steam room visit or jacuzzi afterwards.I've sent away for sample packets from Vitalady so I can see whichones I tolerate best after surgery. I've been using the AtkinsAdvantage powders in my pre-op weight loss, and like the vanilla & chocolate. I add frozen strawberries to vanilla and banana to thechocolate. I hope I like them still afterwards. 15 grams protein eachscoop, low cal, low sugars.Ok, that's enough from me. Just wanted to get my feet wet in thisgroup, so I'll feel able to post when I get back from surgery.Have a great day!Janet268 Orientation/?

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Hi Janet- Good luck in your surgery, sounds like you are more than prepared and upbeat and thats good ! cant wait to hear how things went ! Colleenbreila56 wrote: Hey Everyone!My name is Janet, and I am 49 yrs old, live in Los Angelesl area. I'vebeen lurking here for about 10 mos, on and off, and I am having mysurgery Wed, March 1st! I'm very excited and scared. I start my bowelprep on Monday, and then off to UCLA (via Kaiser) on Wednesday. I have rearranged my entire life for this. I have put my condo on themarket for sale and moved in with my fiance. This will allow me to notwork for 6 - 8 weeks, and then to only work about 30 hrs/week afterwards.I plan to start walking as soon as I get home (just up and down theblock) and have made room

in my life for 2hrs a day at the gym, so Ican reward myself with a nice steam room visit or jacuzzi afterwards.I've sent away for sample packets from Vitalady so I can see whichones I tolerate best after surgery. I've been using the AtkinsAdvantage powders in my pre-op weight loss, and like the vanilla & chocolate. I add frozen strawberries to vanilla and banana to thechocolate. I hope I like them still afterwards. 15 grams protein eachscoop, low cal, low sugars.Ok, that's enough from me. Just wanted to get my feet wet in thisgroup, so I'll feel able to post when I get back from surgery.Have a great day!Janet268 Orientation/?

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Welcome, Janet!

You're going to love our group! What interesting timing when you

joined our group.

I just wanted to let everyone know that this Janet is NOT the Janet I

was just posting about.

Sorry, Janet. I had just posted about a woman named Janet who had

bothered me at work. I just didn't want anyone to confuse you with

her.

Again, welcome. Keep us updated on your progress.

Francisco

>

> Hey Everyone!

>

> My name is Janet, and I am 49 yrs old, live in Los Angelesl area.

I've

> been lurking here for about 10 mos, on and off, and I am having my

> surgery Wed, March 1st! I'm very excited and scared. I start my

bowel

> prep on Monday, and then off to UCLA (via Kaiser) on Wednesday.

>

> I have rearranged my entire life for this. I have put my condo on

the

> market for sale and moved in with my fiance. This will allow me to

not

> work for 6 - 8 weeks, and then to only work about 30 hrs/week

afterwards.

>

> I plan to start walking as soon as I get home (just up and down the

> block) and have made room in my life for 2hrs a day at the gym, so I

> can reward myself with a nice steam room visit or jacuzzi

afterwards.

>

> I've sent away for sample packets from Vitalady so I can see which

> ones I tolerate best after surgery. I've been using the Atkins

> Advantage powders in my pre-op weight loss, and like the vanilla &

> chocolate. I add frozen strawberries to vanilla and banana to the

> chocolate. I hope I like them still afterwards. 15 grams protein

each

> scoop, low cal, low sugars.

>

> Ok, that's enough from me. Just wanted to get my feet wet in this

> group, so I'll feel able to post when I get back from surgery.

>

> Have a great day!

>

> Janet

>

> 268 Orientation/?

>

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Welcome, Janet!

You're going to love our group! What interesting timing when you

joined our group.

I just wanted to let everyone know that this Janet is NOT the Janet I

was just posting about.

Sorry, Janet. I had just posted about a woman named Janet who had

bothered me at work. I just didn't want anyone to confuse you with

her.

Again, welcome. Keep us updated on your progress.

Francisco

>

> Hey Everyone!

>

> My name is Janet, and I am 49 yrs old, live in Los Angelesl area.

I've

> been lurking here for about 10 mos, on and off, and I am having my

> surgery Wed, March 1st! I'm very excited and scared. I start my

bowel

> prep on Monday, and then off to UCLA (via Kaiser) on Wednesday.

>

> I have rearranged my entire life for this. I have put my condo on

the

> market for sale and moved in with my fiance. This will allow me to

not

> work for 6 - 8 weeks, and then to only work about 30 hrs/week

afterwards.

>

> I plan to start walking as soon as I get home (just up and down the

> block) and have made room in my life for 2hrs a day at the gym, so I

> can reward myself with a nice steam room visit or jacuzzi

afterwards.

>

> I've sent away for sample packets from Vitalady so I can see which

> ones I tolerate best after surgery. I've been using the Atkins

> Advantage powders in my pre-op weight loss, and like the vanilla &

> chocolate. I add frozen strawberries to vanilla and banana to the

> chocolate. I hope I like them still afterwards. 15 grams protein

each

> scoop, low cal, low sugars.

>

> Ok, that's enough from me. Just wanted to get my feet wet in this

> group, so I'll feel able to post when I get back from surgery.

>

> Have a great day!

>

> Janet

>

> 268 Orientation/?

>

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Welcome to the group! It sounds like you have thiught of just about

everything and are ready to go. Keep us all posted as to the surgery.

PEGGY

>

> Hey Everyone!

>

> My name is Janet, and I am 49 yrs old, live in Los Angelesl area.

I've

> been lurking here for about 10 mos, on and off, and I am having my

> surgery Wed, March 1st! I'm very excited and scared. I start my

bowel

> prep on Monday, and then off to UCLA (via Kaiser) on Wednesday.

>

> I have rearranged my entire life for this. I have put my condo on

the

> market for sale and moved in with my fiance. This will allow me to

not

> work for 6 - 8 weeks, and then to only work about 30 hrs/week

afterwards.

>

> I plan to start walking as soon as I get home (just up and down the

> block) and have made room in my life for 2hrs a day at the gym, so I

> can reward myself with a nice steam room visit or jacuzzi

afterwards.

>

> I've sent away for sample packets from Vitalady so I can see which

> ones I tolerate best after surgery. I've been using the Atkins

> Advantage powders in my pre-op weight loss, and like the vanilla &

> chocolate. I add frozen strawberries to vanilla and banana to the

> chocolate. I hope I like them still afterwards. 15 grams protein

each

> scoop, low cal, low sugars.

>

> Ok, that's enough from me. Just wanted to get my feet wet in this

> group, so I'll feel able to post when I get back from surgery.

>

> Have a great day!

>

> Janet

>

> 268 Orientation/?

>

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Welcome to the group! It sounds like you have thiught of just about

everything and are ready to go. Keep us all posted as to the surgery.

PEGGY

>

> Hey Everyone!

>

> My name is Janet, and I am 49 yrs old, live in Los Angelesl area.

I've

> been lurking here for about 10 mos, on and off, and I am having my

> surgery Wed, March 1st! I'm very excited and scared. I start my

bowel

> prep on Monday, and then off to UCLA (via Kaiser) on Wednesday.

>

> I have rearranged my entire life for this. I have put my condo on

the

> market for sale and moved in with my fiance. This will allow me to

not

> work for 6 - 8 weeks, and then to only work about 30 hrs/week

afterwards.

>

> I plan to start walking as soon as I get home (just up and down the

> block) and have made room in my life for 2hrs a day at the gym, so I

> can reward myself with a nice steam room visit or jacuzzi

afterwards.

>

> I've sent away for sample packets from Vitalady so I can see which

> ones I tolerate best after surgery. I've been using the Atkins

> Advantage powders in my pre-op weight loss, and like the vanilla &

> chocolate. I add frozen strawberries to vanilla and banana to the

> chocolate. I hope I like them still afterwards. 15 grams protein

each

> scoop, low cal, low sugars.

>

> Ok, that's enough from me. Just wanted to get my feet wet in this

> group, so I'll feel able to post when I get back from surgery.

>

> Have a great day!

>

> Janet

>

> 268 Orientation/?

>

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Hi Everyone,

Thank you for such a warm welcome! , I went back and looked

at the thread - thanks for clarifying that I am NOT the Janet that

bugs you at work lol!

The member who posted that it was the tag line for the commercial may

have hit the nail right on the head. I find I am SOOOO defensive if

someone crosses my boundary, especially when I am emphatic with them

prior to the incident. So glad you have this group to bounce off

against so you can safely vent without jeopardizing work relationships.

I'm actually excited to have this group to bounce off of, even though

I have to work currently!

Those of you who posted specific info, is it ok to reply directly? I

own a very large list on yahoogroups and we ask members to post

directy replies on personal messages.

I am really looking forward to being a contributing and receiving

member of this group!

Janet Z

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Hi Everyone,

Thank you for such a warm welcome! , I went back and looked

at the thread - thanks for clarifying that I am NOT the Janet that

bugs you at work lol!

The member who posted that it was the tag line for the commercial may

have hit the nail right on the head. I find I am SOOOO defensive if

someone crosses my boundary, especially when I am emphatic with them

prior to the incident. So glad you have this group to bounce off

against so you can safely vent without jeopardizing work relationships.

I'm actually excited to have this group to bounce off of, even though

I have to work currently!

Those of you who posted specific info, is it ok to reply directly? I

own a very large list on yahoogroups and we ask members to post

directy replies on personal messages.

I am really looking forward to being a contributing and receiving

member of this group!

Janet Z

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Hi Robynn,

Habitez-vous a Paris? or something like that lol!

Thanks for the reply - I just want to clarify that I am using the

drinks as PRE-OP weight loss only. I will not even be able to have

full liquids for several weeks. As Sue in Palmdale was saying, UCLA is

very strict about the pre-op and even more about post-op and we just

don't move to anything like a protein shake for weeks.

I'm sure that by the time I get to have something like a Lactaid

protein drink it will seem like heaven!

Thanks for sharing your stats, you sound amazingly happy and

progressing very quickly. I remember dining at the little cafe right

inside the Arc de Triomphe on Champs Elysee at my highest weight

(~280) and as I got up to leave, the chair would not release my butt,

so it went waving in the air with me. Everyone in the restaurant

laughed and laughed along with them, but was dying inside. Can't

imaging the snooty French women in boutiques not staring at me.....at

least for today!

Janet Z

>

> > Hey Everyone!

> >

> > My name is Janet, and I am 49 yrs old, live in Los

> > Angelesl area. I've

> > been lurking here for about 10 mos, on and off, and

> > I am having my

> > surgery Wed, March 1st! I'm very excited and

> > scared. I start my bowel

> > prep on Monday, and then off to UCLA (via Kaiser) on

> > Wednesday.

> >

> > I have rearranged my entire life for this. I have

> > put my condo on the

> > market for sale and moved in with my fiance. This

> > will allow me to not

> > work for 6 - 8 weeks, and then to only work about 30

> > hrs/week afterwards.

> >

> > I plan to start walking as soon as I get home (just

> > up and down the

> > block) and have made room in my life for 2hrs a day

> > at the gym, so I

> > can reward myself with a nice steam room visit or

> > jacuzzi afterwards.

> >

> > I've sent away for sample packets from Vitalady so I

> > can see which

> > ones I tolerate best after surgery. I've been using

> > the Atkins

> > Advantage powders in my pre-op weight loss, and like

> > the vanilla &

> > chocolate. I add frozen strawberries to vanilla and

> > banana to the

> > chocolate. I hope I like them still afterwards. 15

> > grams protein each

> > scoop, low cal, low sugars.

> >

> > Ok, that's enough from me. Just wanted to get my

> > feet wet in this

> > group, so I'll feel able to post when I get back

> > from surgery.

> >

> > Have a great day!

> >

> > Janet

> >

> > 268 Orientation/?

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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Hi Robynn,

Habitez-vous a Paris? or something like that lol!

Thanks for the reply - I just want to clarify that I am using the

drinks as PRE-OP weight loss only. I will not even be able to have

full liquids for several weeks. As Sue in Palmdale was saying, UCLA is

very strict about the pre-op and even more about post-op and we just

don't move to anything like a protein shake for weeks.

I'm sure that by the time I get to have something like a Lactaid

protein drink it will seem like heaven!

Thanks for sharing your stats, you sound amazingly happy and

progressing very quickly. I remember dining at the little cafe right

inside the Arc de Triomphe on Champs Elysee at my highest weight

(~280) and as I got up to leave, the chair would not release my butt,

so it went waving in the air with me. Everyone in the restaurant

laughed and laughed along with them, but was dying inside. Can't

imaging the snooty French women in boutiques not staring at me.....at

least for today!

Janet Z

>

> > Hey Everyone!

> >

> > My name is Janet, and I am 49 yrs old, live in Los

> > Angelesl area. I've

> > been lurking here for about 10 mos, on and off, and

> > I am having my

> > surgery Wed, March 1st! I'm very excited and

> > scared. I start my bowel

> > prep on Monday, and then off to UCLA (via Kaiser) on

> > Wednesday.

> >

> > I have rearranged my entire life for this. I have

> > put my condo on the

> > market for sale and moved in with my fiance. This

> > will allow me to not

> > work for 6 - 8 weeks, and then to only work about 30

> > hrs/week afterwards.

> >

> > I plan to start walking as soon as I get home (just

> > up and down the

> > block) and have made room in my life for 2hrs a day

> > at the gym, so I

> > can reward myself with a nice steam room visit or

> > jacuzzi afterwards.

> >

> > I've sent away for sample packets from Vitalady so I

> > can see which

> > ones I tolerate best after surgery. I've been using

> > the Atkins

> > Advantage powders in my pre-op weight loss, and like

> > the vanilla &

> > chocolate. I add frozen strawberries to vanilla and

> > banana to the

> > chocolate. I hope I like them still afterwards. 15

> > grams protein each

> > scoop, low cal, low sugars.

> >

> > Ok, that's enough from me. Just wanted to get my

> > feet wet in this

> > group, so I'll feel able to post when I get back

> > from surgery.

> >

> > Have a great day!

> >

> > Janet

> >

> > 268 Orientation/?

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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I don't live in France, but I live with a guy from France. Does that count? I also go there very frequently. Yikes, the chair/butt thing must have been embarrassing! Good for you for laughing, though. The protein shake to lose weight helps, I did that route, too. ANd as I said, many many post ops have had great success using shakes afterwards, but I haven't used them very often because the surgeons at Richmond, like the ones at UCLA are against it. In the end, you will need to find what works best for you...because we are all different. I am very happy, life is good...and honestly, I feel natural, now. I don't feel like an imposter in a thin suit. I feel like a thin person. It's a great feeling, and I know I will never let myself get "there" again...it was just too painful for me. This is a wonderful gift...use it

wisely and it will serve you well. Deepest, richest blessings on you during this journey. It's a wonderful thing. Robynnbreila56 wrote: Hi Robynn,Habitez-vous a Paris? or something like that lol!Thanks for the reply - I just want to clarify that I am using thedrinks as PRE-OP weight loss only. I will not even be able to havefull liquids for several weeks. As Sue in Palmdale was saying, UCLA isvery strict about the pre-op and even more about post-op and we justdon't move to anything like a protein shake for weeks.I'm sure that by the time I get to have something like a Lactaidprotein drink it will seem like heaven!Thanks for sharing your stats, you sound amazingly happy andprogressing very quickly. I remember dining at

the little cafe rightinside the Arc de Triomphe on Champs Elysee at my highest weight(~280) and as I got up to leave, the chair would not release my butt,so it went waving in the air with me. Everyone in the restaurantlaughed and laughed along with them, but was dying inside. Can'timaging the snooty French women in boutiques not staring at me.....atleast for today!Janet Z> > > Hey Everyone!> > > > My name is Janet, and I am 49 yrs old, live in Los> > Angelesl area.

I've> > been lurking here for about 10 mos, on and off, and> > I am having my> > surgery Wed, March 1st! I'm very excited and> > scared. I start my bowel> > prep on Monday, and then off to UCLA (via Kaiser) on> > Wednesday. > > > > I have rearranged my entire life for this. I have> > put my condo on the> > market for sale and moved in with my fiance. This> > will allow me to not> > work for 6 - 8 weeks, and then to only work about 30> > hrs/week afterwards.> > > > I plan to start walking as soon as I get home (just> > up and down the> > block) and have made room in my life for 2hrs a day> > at the gym, so I> > can reward myself with a nice steam room visit or> > jacuzzi afterwards.> > > > I've sent away for sample packets from Vitalady so I> >

can see which> > ones I tolerate best after surgery. I've been using> > the Atkins> > Advantage powders in my pre-op weight loss, and like> > the vanilla & > > chocolate. I add frozen strawberries to vanilla and> > banana to the> > chocolate. I hope I like them still afterwards. 15> > grams protein each> > scoop, low cal, low sugars.> > > > Ok, that's enough from me. Just wanted to get my> > feet wet in this> > group, so I'll feel able to post when I get back> > from surgery.> > > > Have a great day!> > > > Janet> > > > 268 Orientation/?> > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________>

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I don't live in France, but I live with a guy from France. Does that count? I also go there very frequently. Yikes, the chair/butt thing must have been embarrassing! Good for you for laughing, though. The protein shake to lose weight helps, I did that route, too. ANd as I said, many many post ops have had great success using shakes afterwards, but I haven't used them very often because the surgeons at Richmond, like the ones at UCLA are against it. In the end, you will need to find what works best for you...because we are all different. I am very happy, life is good...and honestly, I feel natural, now. I don't feel like an imposter in a thin suit. I feel like a thin person. It's a great feeling, and I know I will never let myself get "there" again...it was just too painful for me. This is a wonderful gift...use it

wisely and it will serve you well. Deepest, richest blessings on you during this journey. It's a wonderful thing. Robynnbreila56 wrote: Hi Robynn,Habitez-vous a Paris? or something like that lol!Thanks for the reply - I just want to clarify that I am using thedrinks as PRE-OP weight loss only. I will not even be able to havefull liquids for several weeks. As Sue in Palmdale was saying, UCLA isvery strict about the pre-op and even more about post-op and we justdon't move to anything like a protein shake for weeks.I'm sure that by the time I get to have something like a Lactaidprotein drink it will seem like heaven!Thanks for sharing your stats, you sound amazingly happy andprogressing very quickly. I remember dining at

the little cafe rightinside the Arc de Triomphe on Champs Elysee at my highest weight(~280) and as I got up to leave, the chair would not release my butt,so it went waving in the air with me. Everyone in the restaurantlaughed and laughed along with them, but was dying inside. Can'timaging the snooty French women in boutiques not staring at me.....atleast for today!Janet Z> > > Hey Everyone!> > > > My name is Janet, and I am 49 yrs old, live in Los> > Angelesl area.

I've> > been lurking here for about 10 mos, on and off, and> > I am having my> > surgery Wed, March 1st! I'm very excited and> > scared. I start my bowel> > prep on Monday, and then off to UCLA (via Kaiser) on> > Wednesday. > > > > I have rearranged my entire life for this. I have> > put my condo on the> > market for sale and moved in with my fiance. This> > will allow me to not> > work for 6 - 8 weeks, and then to only work about 30> > hrs/week afterwards.> > > > I plan to start walking as soon as I get home (just> > up and down the> > block) and have made room in my life for 2hrs a day> > at the gym, so I> > can reward myself with a nice steam room visit or> > jacuzzi afterwards.> > > > I've sent away for sample packets from Vitalady so I> >

can see which> > ones I tolerate best after surgery. I've been using> > the Atkins> > Advantage powders in my pre-op weight loss, and like> > the vanilla & > > chocolate. I add frozen strawberries to vanilla and> > banana to the> > chocolate. I hope I like them still afterwards. 15> > grams protein each> > scoop, low cal, low sugars.> > > > Ok, that's enough from me. Just wanted to get my> > feet wet in this> > group, so I'll feel able to post when I get back> > from surgery.> > > > Have a great day!> > > > Janet> > > > 268 Orientation/?> > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________>

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As always I enjoy your comments Robynn, and this one just hit me to

the core. It is EXACTLY the way I am feeling now.

" I am very happy, life is good...and honestly, I feel natural, now.

I don't feel like an imposter in a thin suit. I feel like a thin

person. It's a great feeling, and I know I will never let myself

get " there " again...it was just too painful for me. "

I am so glad to hear as well that you are still doing well and the

new man is happyily settled into his new digs!

With summer coming up, are you dreading the swimsuit? My inner thighs

are still so scary that I am dreading it. You stated that your skin

is already bouncing back into shape? LUCKY! I think actually my arms

are getting a little better than they where for awhile. Everything

else though is sag city.

Keep up the great work and take one day at a time! Those last few lbs

will come off! Oh and I just wore my size 8 pants to Vegas the other

weekend! Single digit pants? Amazing! Woo-hoo!

Cheers,

Kay

336/290/168/? 18 bls to Dr Baggs goal!

> >

> > > Hey Everyone!

> > >

> > > My name is Janet, and I am 49 yrs old, live in Los

> > > Angelesl area. I've

> > > been lurking here for about 10 mos, on and off, and

> > > I am having my

> > > surgery Wed, March 1st! I'm very excited and

> > > scared. I start my bowel

> > > prep on Monday, and then off to UCLA (via Kaiser) on

> > > Wednesday.

> > >

> > > I have rearranged my entire life for this. I have

> > > put my condo on the

> > > market for sale and moved in with my fiance. This

> > > will allow me to not

> > > work for 6 - 8 weeks, and then to only work about 30

> > > hrs/week afterwards.

> > >

> > > I plan to start walking as soon as I get home (just

> > > up and down the

> > > block) and have made room in my life for 2hrs a day

> > > at the gym, so I

> > > can reward myself with a nice steam room visit or

> > > jacuzzi afterwards.

> > >

> > > I've sent away for sample packets from Vitalady so I

> > > can see which

> > > ones I tolerate best after surgery. I've been using

> > > the Atkins

> > > Advantage powders in my pre-op weight loss, and like

> > > the vanilla &

> > > chocolate. I add frozen strawberries to vanilla and

> > > banana to the

> > > chocolate. I hope I like them still afterwards. 15

> > > grams protein each

> > > scoop, low cal, low sugars.

> > >

> > > Ok, that's enough from me. Just wanted to get my

> > > feet wet in this

> > > group, so I'll feel able to post when I get back

> > > from surgery.

> > >

> > > Have a great day!

> > >

> > > Janet

> > >

> > > 268 Orientation/?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

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As always I enjoy your comments Robynn, and this one just hit me to

the core. It is EXACTLY the way I am feeling now.

" I am very happy, life is good...and honestly, I feel natural, now.

I don't feel like an imposter in a thin suit. I feel like a thin

person. It's a great feeling, and I know I will never let myself

get " there " again...it was just too painful for me. "

I am so glad to hear as well that you are still doing well and the

new man is happyily settled into his new digs!

With summer coming up, are you dreading the swimsuit? My inner thighs

are still so scary that I am dreading it. You stated that your skin

is already bouncing back into shape? LUCKY! I think actually my arms

are getting a little better than they where for awhile. Everything

else though is sag city.

Keep up the great work and take one day at a time! Those last few lbs

will come off! Oh and I just wore my size 8 pants to Vegas the other

weekend! Single digit pants? Amazing! Woo-hoo!

Cheers,

Kay

336/290/168/? 18 bls to Dr Baggs goal!

> >

> > > Hey Everyone!

> > >

> > > My name is Janet, and I am 49 yrs old, live in Los

> > > Angelesl area. I've

> > > been lurking here for about 10 mos, on and off, and

> > > I am having my

> > > surgery Wed, March 1st! I'm very excited and

> > > scared. I start my bowel

> > > prep on Monday, and then off to UCLA (via Kaiser) on

> > > Wednesday.

> > >

> > > I have rearranged my entire life for this. I have

> > > put my condo on the

> > > market for sale and moved in with my fiance. This

> > > will allow me to not

> > > work for 6 - 8 weeks, and then to only work about 30

> > > hrs/week afterwards.

> > >

> > > I plan to start walking as soon as I get home (just

> > > up and down the

> > > block) and have made room in my life for 2hrs a day

> > > at the gym, so I

> > > can reward myself with a nice steam room visit or

> > > jacuzzi afterwards.

> > >

> > > I've sent away for sample packets from Vitalady so I

> > > can see which

> > > ones I tolerate best after surgery. I've been using

> > > the Atkins

> > > Advantage powders in my pre-op weight loss, and like

> > > the vanilla &

> > > chocolate. I add frozen strawberries to vanilla and

> > > banana to the

> > > chocolate. I hope I like them still afterwards. 15

> > > grams protein each

> > > scoop, low cal, low sugars.

> > >

> > > Ok, that's enough from me. Just wanted to get my

> > > feet wet in this

> > > group, so I'll feel able to post when I get back

> > > from surgery.

> > >

> > > Have a great day!

> > >

> > > Janet

> > >

> > > 268 Orientation/?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

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