Guest guest Posted July 20, 2001 Report Share Posted July 20, 2001 I just decided to pop into the list and see what is happening. I apologize for all spelling errors ahead of time. No spell check on the web. I am a little over 6 months post-op. My BMI has gone from 38 to 25. So far I have never plataued (sp) and I consider my weight loss of about 75 pounds excellent (considering my lower starting BMI). My alimentary limb was made 300cm and my common channel is 100cm. I am extremely happy about this. I do eat more protein now than pre-op, probably around 6 ounces a day (pre-op was about 4 ounces every other day.) My protein level is higher than it was pre- op. I do eat a decent amount of carbs and sweets--especially lately chocolate chip cookies and 100,000 bars. Nothing seemed to make a difference in the speed of my weight loss. Honestly, if I lost faster I would be nervous about getting to thin. I weigh between 153- 155 at six months out. I think the speed and amount of weight loss is very individual. I always lost weight quickly when I lowered my caloric intake and I gained weight quickly when I got too hungry to eat at this lower caloric level. So for me, caloric restriction was enough to lose weight. Hopefully, the malabsorption and quicker satiation will keep it off. I know a lot of other people eat very little calorically and still do not lose weight. For them the malabsorption component is more important for weight loss. So what I am saying is that there is no set rule on how fast you will or should lose. Being on the other side--I think the less malabsorption that you can have the better. I know it becomes a numbers game--alimentary limb, common channel, weight, etc... But remember nutrient deficiency is not a game. This operation effects the way your body is nurished(sp) and the more nurishment you can get the better--hopefully with less calorie absorption. I am saying this from someone who does not have any nutrition problems so far (knock wood) and I am not saying that people who have this surgery have problems with malnutrition--I think few do because they are so careful about there nutrition and understand the seriousness of there post-op care. I am just saying the more you are able to absorb the less you have to worry and that is good. And if you ask anyone who is having problems after surgery--suddenly the need to be thin loses a lot of its importants--being healthy is the most important thing. So, I am very happy I have a 300cm alimentary limb--now that I have lost so well--I think I would have been happy to have an even bigger one. I am sure that I do absorb a bit more calories from carbs, but that is okay because I am thrilled to absorb more protein. Oh, one thing Chris--if you read down to this part. Dr. Scopinaro study is based on patients who do have a different stomach and intestine connection than us. That does not make it invalid, but it should be remembered that we are not exactly comparing oranges to oranges more like a brand of orange to another type of orange. That being said Dr. Ren did chose to make my alimentary limb longer based on the information in Dr. Scopinaro study. Dbbr (Deborah) NYU, Dr. Ren, Jan12 LAP DS BMI 38, Now 25 Bluecross Healthchoice (Yeh they finally paid) 70+ pounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2001 Report Share Posted July 20, 2001 I just decided to pop into the list and see what is happening. I apologize for all spelling errors ahead of time. No spell check on the web. I am a little over 6 months post-op. My BMI has gone from 38 to 25. So far I have never plataued (sp) and I consider my weight loss of about 75 pounds excellent (considering my lower starting BMI). My alimentary limb was made 300cm and my common channel is 100cm. I am extremely happy about this. I do eat more protein now than pre-op, probably around 6 ounces a day (pre-op was about 4 ounces every other day.) My protein level is higher than it was pre- op. I do eat a decent amount of carbs and sweets--especially lately chocolate chip cookies and 100,000 bars. Nothing seemed to make a difference in the speed of my weight loss. Honestly, if I lost faster I would be nervous about getting to thin. I weigh between 153- 155 at six months out. I think the speed and amount of weight loss is very individual. I always lost weight quickly when I lowered my caloric intake and I gained weight quickly when I got too hungry to eat at this lower caloric level. So for me, caloric restriction was enough to lose weight. Hopefully, the malabsorption and quicker satiation will keep it off. I know a lot of other people eat very little calorically and still do not lose weight. For them the malabsorption component is more important for weight loss. So what I am saying is that there is no set rule on how fast you will or should lose. Being on the other side--I think the less malabsorption that you can have the better. I know it becomes a numbers game--alimentary limb, common channel, weight, etc... But remember nutrient deficiency is not a game. This operation effects the way your body is nurished(sp) and the more nurishment you can get the better--hopefully with less calorie absorption. I am saying this from someone who does not have any nutrition problems so far (knock wood) and I am not saying that people who have this surgery have problems with malnutrition--I think few do because they are so careful about there nutrition and understand the seriousness of there post-op care. I am just saying the more you are able to absorb the less you have to worry and that is good. And if you ask anyone who is having problems after surgery--suddenly the need to be thin loses a lot of its importants--being healthy is the most important thing. So, I am very happy I have a 300cm alimentary limb--now that I have lost so well--I think I would have been happy to have an even bigger one. I am sure that I do absorb a bit more calories from carbs, but that is okay because I am thrilled to absorb more protein. Oh, one thing Chris--if you read down to this part. Dr. Scopinaro study is based on patients who do have a different stomach and intestine connection than us. That does not make it invalid, but it should be remembered that we are not exactly comparing oranges to oranges more like a brand of orange to another type of orange. That being said Dr. Ren did chose to make my alimentary limb longer based on the information in Dr. Scopinaro study. Dbbr (Deborah) NYU, Dr. Ren, Jan12 LAP DS BMI 38, Now 25 Bluecross Healthchoice (Yeh they finally paid) 70+ pounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2001 Report Share Posted July 20, 2001 Deborah, You are correct that the DS portion of the procedure could make the BPD results from Scopinaro invalid. However, the reported excess weight loss with BPD/DS is so similar to BPD that it appears that the DS portion has little effect on caloric absorption. That is why I think that the Scopinaro results are applicaable. Congratulations on your excellent weight loss. With your low starting BMI the conservative approach made sense, and it sure worked for you. I agree the health is the most important thing. I think some of the SMO's are affraid that they will wind up still being morbidly obease in the end. Others are just obsessed with being " thin " . But indeed health is the way to go. Hull > I just decided to pop into the list and see what is happening. I > apologize for all spelling errors ahead of time. No spell check on > the web. > I am a little over 6 months post-op. My BMI has gone from 38 to > 25. So far I have never plataued (sp) and I consider my weight loss > of about 75 pounds excellent (considering my lower starting BMI). > My alimentary limb was made 300cm and my common channel is > 100cm. I am extremely happy about this. I do eat more protein now > than pre-op, probably around 6 ounces a day (pre-op was about 4 > ounces every other day.) My protein level is higher than it was pre- > op. I do eat a decent amount of carbs and sweets--especially lately > chocolate chip cookies and 100,000 bars. Nothing seemed to make a > difference in the speed of my weight loss. Honestly, if I lost > faster I would be nervous about getting to thin. I weigh between 153- > 155 at six months out. > I think the speed and amount of weight loss is very > individual. I always lost weight quickly when I lowered my caloric > intake and I gained weight quickly when I got too hungry to eat at > this lower caloric level. So for me, caloric restriction was enough > to lose weight. Hopefully, the malabsorption and quicker satiation > will keep it off. I know a lot of other people eat very little > calorically and still do not lose weight. For them the malabsorption > component is more important for weight loss. > So what I am saying is that there is no set rule on how fast > you will or should lose. Being on the other side--I think the less > malabsorption that you can have the better. I know it becomes a > numbers game--alimentary limb, common channel, weight, etc... But > remember nutrient deficiency is not a game. This operation effects > the way your body is nurished(sp) and the more nurishment you can get > the better--hopefully with less calorie absorption. I am saying this > from someone who does not have any nutrition problems so far (knock > wood) and I am not saying that people who have this surgery have > problems with malnutrition--I think few do because they are so > careful about there nutrition and understand the seriousness of there > post-op care. I am just saying the more you are able to absorb the > less you have to worry and that is good. And if you ask anyone who > is having problems after surgery--suddenly the need to be thin loses > a lot of its importants--being healthy is the most important thing. > So, I am very happy I have a 300cm alimentary limb--now that I > have lost so well--I think I would have been happy to have an even > bigger one. I am sure that I do absorb a bit more calories from > carbs, but that is okay because I am thrilled to absorb more protein. > > Oh, one thing Chris--if you read down to this part. Dr. > Scopinaro study is based on patients who do have a different stomach > and intestine connection than us. That does not make it invalid, but > it should be remembered that we are not exactly comparing oranges to > oranges more like a brand of orange to another type of orange. That > being said Dr. Ren did chose to make my alimentary limb longer based > on the information in Dr. Scopinaro study. > > > Dbbr (Deborah) > NYU, Dr. Ren, Jan12 > LAP DS BMI 38, Now 25 > Bluecross Healthchoice (Yeh they finally paid) > 70+ pounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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