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I just decided to pop into the list and see what is happening. I

apologize for all spelling errors ahead of time. No spell check on

the web.

I am a little over 6 months post-op. My BMI has gone from 38 to

25. So far I have never plataued (sp) and I consider my weight loss

of about 75 pounds excellent (considering my lower starting BMI).

My alimentary limb was made 300cm and my common channel is

100cm. I am extremely happy about this. I do eat more protein now

than pre-op, probably around 6 ounces a day (pre-op was about 4

ounces every other day.) My protein level is higher than it was pre-

op. I do eat a decent amount of carbs and sweets--especially lately

chocolate chip cookies and 100,000 bars. Nothing seemed to make a

difference in the speed of my weight loss. Honestly, if I lost

faster I would be nervous about getting to thin. I weigh between 153-

155 at six months out.

I think the speed and amount of weight loss is very

individual. I always lost weight quickly when I lowered my caloric

intake and I gained weight quickly when I got too hungry to eat at

this lower caloric level. So for me, caloric restriction was enough

to lose weight. Hopefully, the malabsorption and quicker satiation

will keep it off. I know a lot of other people eat very little

calorically and still do not lose weight. For them the malabsorption

component is more important for weight loss.

So what I am saying is that there is no set rule on how fast

you will or should lose. Being on the other side--I think the less

malabsorption that you can have the better. I know it becomes a

numbers game--alimentary limb, common channel, weight, etc... But

remember nutrient deficiency is not a game. This operation effects

the way your body is nurished(sp) and the more nurishment you can get

the better--hopefully with less calorie absorption. I am saying this

from someone who does not have any nutrition problems so far (knock

wood) and I am not saying that people who have this surgery have

problems with malnutrition--I think few do because they are so

careful about there nutrition and understand the seriousness of there

post-op care. I am just saying the more you are able to absorb the

less you have to worry and that is good. And if you ask anyone who

is having problems after surgery--suddenly the need to be thin loses

a lot of its importants--being healthy is the most important thing.

So, I am very happy I have a 300cm alimentary limb--now that I

have lost so well--I think I would have been happy to have an even

bigger one. I am sure that I do absorb a bit more calories from

carbs, but that is okay because I am thrilled to absorb more protein.

Oh, one thing Chris--if you read down to this part. Dr.

Scopinaro study is based on patients who do have a different stomach

and intestine connection than us. That does not make it invalid, but

it should be remembered that we are not exactly comparing oranges to

oranges more like a brand of orange to another type of orange. That

being said Dr. Ren did chose to make my alimentary limb longer based

on the information in Dr. Scopinaro study.

Dbbr (Deborah)

NYU, Dr. Ren, Jan12

LAP DS BMI 38, Now 25

Bluecross Healthchoice (Yeh they finally paid)

70+ pounds

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I just decided to pop into the list and see what is happening. I

apologize for all spelling errors ahead of time. No spell check on

the web.

I am a little over 6 months post-op. My BMI has gone from 38 to

25. So far I have never plataued (sp) and I consider my weight loss

of about 75 pounds excellent (considering my lower starting BMI).

My alimentary limb was made 300cm and my common channel is

100cm. I am extremely happy about this. I do eat more protein now

than pre-op, probably around 6 ounces a day (pre-op was about 4

ounces every other day.) My protein level is higher than it was pre-

op. I do eat a decent amount of carbs and sweets--especially lately

chocolate chip cookies and 100,000 bars. Nothing seemed to make a

difference in the speed of my weight loss. Honestly, if I lost

faster I would be nervous about getting to thin. I weigh between 153-

155 at six months out.

I think the speed and amount of weight loss is very

individual. I always lost weight quickly when I lowered my caloric

intake and I gained weight quickly when I got too hungry to eat at

this lower caloric level. So for me, caloric restriction was enough

to lose weight. Hopefully, the malabsorption and quicker satiation

will keep it off. I know a lot of other people eat very little

calorically and still do not lose weight. For them the malabsorption

component is more important for weight loss.

So what I am saying is that there is no set rule on how fast

you will or should lose. Being on the other side--I think the less

malabsorption that you can have the better. I know it becomes a

numbers game--alimentary limb, common channel, weight, etc... But

remember nutrient deficiency is not a game. This operation effects

the way your body is nurished(sp) and the more nurishment you can get

the better--hopefully with less calorie absorption. I am saying this

from someone who does not have any nutrition problems so far (knock

wood) and I am not saying that people who have this surgery have

problems with malnutrition--I think few do because they are so

careful about there nutrition and understand the seriousness of there

post-op care. I am just saying the more you are able to absorb the

less you have to worry and that is good. And if you ask anyone who

is having problems after surgery--suddenly the need to be thin loses

a lot of its importants--being healthy is the most important thing.

So, I am very happy I have a 300cm alimentary limb--now that I

have lost so well--I think I would have been happy to have an even

bigger one. I am sure that I do absorb a bit more calories from

carbs, but that is okay because I am thrilled to absorb more protein.

Oh, one thing Chris--if you read down to this part. Dr.

Scopinaro study is based on patients who do have a different stomach

and intestine connection than us. That does not make it invalid, but

it should be remembered that we are not exactly comparing oranges to

oranges more like a brand of orange to another type of orange. That

being said Dr. Ren did chose to make my alimentary limb longer based

on the information in Dr. Scopinaro study.

Dbbr (Deborah)

NYU, Dr. Ren, Jan12

LAP DS BMI 38, Now 25

Bluecross Healthchoice (Yeh they finally paid)

70+ pounds

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Deborah,

You are correct that the DS portion of the procedure could make the

BPD results from Scopinaro invalid. However, the reported excess

weight loss with BPD/DS is so similar to BPD that it appears that the

DS portion has little effect on caloric absorption. That is why I

think that the Scopinaro results are applicaable.

Congratulations on your excellent weight loss. With your low starting

BMI the conservative approach made sense, and it sure worked for you.

I agree the health is the most important thing. I think some of the

SMO's are affraid that they will wind up still being morbidly obease

in the end. Others are just obsessed with being " thin " . But indeed

health is the way to go.

Hull

> I just decided to pop into the list and see what is happening.

I

> apologize for all spelling errors ahead of time. No spell check on

> the web.

> I am a little over 6 months post-op. My BMI has gone from 38

to

> 25. So far I have never plataued (sp) and I consider my weight loss

> of about 75 pounds excellent (considering my lower starting BMI).

> My alimentary limb was made 300cm and my common channel is

> 100cm. I am extremely happy about this. I do eat more protein now

> than pre-op, probably around 6 ounces a day (pre-op was about 4

> ounces every other day.) My protein level is higher than it was

pre-

> op. I do eat a decent amount of carbs and sweets--especially lately

> chocolate chip cookies and 100,000 bars. Nothing seemed to make a

> difference in the speed of my weight loss. Honestly, if I lost

> faster I would be nervous about getting to thin. I weigh between

153-

> 155 at six months out.

> I think the speed and amount of weight loss is very

> individual. I always lost weight quickly when I lowered my caloric

> intake and I gained weight quickly when I got too hungry to eat at

> this lower caloric level. So for me, caloric restriction was enough

> to lose weight. Hopefully, the malabsorption and quicker satiation

> will keep it off. I know a lot of other people eat very little

> calorically and still do not lose weight. For them the

malabsorption

> component is more important for weight loss.

> So what I am saying is that there is no set rule on how fast

> you will or should lose. Being on the other side--I think the less

> malabsorption that you can have the better. I know it becomes a

> numbers game--alimentary limb, common channel, weight, etc... But

> remember nutrient deficiency is not a game. This operation effects

> the way your body is nurished(sp) and the more nurishment you can

get

> the better--hopefully with less calorie absorption. I am saying

this

> from someone who does not have any nutrition problems so far (knock

> wood) and I am not saying that people who have this surgery have

> problems with malnutrition--I think few do because they are so

> careful about there nutrition and understand the seriousness of

there

> post-op care. I am just saying the more you are able to absorb the

> less you have to worry and that is good. And if you ask anyone who

> is having problems after surgery--suddenly the need to be thin

loses

> a lot of its importants--being healthy is the most important thing.

> So, I am very happy I have a 300cm alimentary limb--now that

I

> have lost so well--I think I would have been happy to have an even

> bigger one. I am sure that I do absorb a bit more calories from

> carbs, but that is okay because I am thrilled to absorb more

protein.

>

> Oh, one thing Chris--if you read down to this part. Dr.

> Scopinaro study is based on patients who do have a different

stomach

> and intestine connection than us. That does not make it invalid,

but

> it should be remembered that we are not exactly comparing oranges

to

> oranges more like a brand of orange to another type of orange.

That

> being said Dr. Ren did chose to make my alimentary limb longer

based

> on the information in Dr. Scopinaro study.

>

>

> Dbbr (Deborah)

> NYU, Dr. Ren, Jan12

> LAP DS BMI 38, Now 25

> Bluecross Healthchoice (Yeh they finally paid)

> 70+ pounds

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