Orientation and hunger pains

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well after that orientation I was reeling on do I really want to do

this, it is so drastic. But I finally decided, Yes, I do want this,

I need to have this tool to help me, I have tried to lose weight and

had not had much success. Well, going to start all my journaling

today, and measuring and weighing all my food. I already have 2

scales to weight things from previous diets. I do need to go buy a

bathroom scale, since I used to weigh at work and now that I am out

of disability, I don't have access.

I also decide I have to change How I look at food, it isn't my best

friend anymore it is also just another tool to keep my body going.

I do have a question, I have this hunger pain, a feeling of

something nawing at my stomach, and the pain goes away when I eat.

Will this nawing pain go away after the bypass? I have heard that

afterwards you will not have any hunger pains is that true?

Thanks,

Esther

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It depends on what the hunger " pains " mean, and where they come

from. I've spent 2.5 years on " The Other Side, " and have never felt

actual physical hunger, because my body needed fuel. I sometimes

feel tired, listless, or cranky, if I go too long between protein

pitstops though.

I'm sorry to say however, that my " Head Hunger " hasn't gone away.

The urge to eat inappropriatly because of stress, anxiety, worry,

happiness, elation, boredom, etc. is as strong for me today as it

ever was, but since I've been at a " normal " wight for just 4.2% of

my life, maybe I just need more practice. I have to practice

mindfulness every day, to help me identify those times when I want

to fill " Tank Two " (a concept of Dr. Stiles': Tank One is for your

body's physical need for fuel. Tank Two is for all the other

reasons we eat).

Part of the pain you're feeling now what you've decided on this path

may be a very natural mourning process, grieving for all the things

you think you'll be losing, if you continue. Believe me, what you

gain on this journey is far more important than what you lose.

Tim -240

Half the weight, twice the person

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> > Well today is my official 1st weigh in, got the orientation

> class today, so here we go!

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> > Esther

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> young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving

> and tolerant of the weak and the strong. Because someday in life

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Congrats on deciding to go ahead with surgery Esther. I hemmed and

hauled for almost 1 1/2 years and now the way I feel I wish I had

jumped on the bandwagon immediately. I used to have diabetes so I

would get hungry alot and the pain that went with it was sometimes

overwhelming. I would double over in pain sometimes it was that bad.

Since surgery, I have NEVER felt that same kind of hunger. I will get

hungry ,started about 10 weeks post op, and once I eat I am satisfied

and I seem to stay full longer than presurgery too.

Some people though never do really get that hungry feeling again post

surgery. I am glad I still get hungry because it makes the food I eat

a more enjoyable experience. It wasn't fun to eat when not hungry and

that is something I know you can't think possible, as I didn't

either, but you will when recovering! This is a wild ride and a

blessing for us to get our lives back!

Take care,

Kay

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6/28/05- surgery Dr Baggs- First day of the rest of my life!

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> > Way to go !

> >

> > Well today is my official 1st weigh in, got the orientation

> class today, so here we go!

> >

> > Esther

> >

> >

> > " How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the

> young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving

> and tolerant of the weak and the strong. Because someday in life

you

> will have been all of these. " -- Washington Carver

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Esther, some people do not have hunger for a long time

after surgery. Others are hungry every two to four

hours from fairly early on. Everyone is different. I

hope you are the never hungry type after your surgery!

Laurie

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Hello All,

I have been rather quiet on the list of late since surgery. I wanted to address this topic because it is something that hits home with me.

When I went to all my orientation meetings and support groups, before surgery, I was told by surgeons and WLS patients that I would have a "honeymoon" period for the first year after surgery. During this "honeymoon" I would have to force myself to eat because I wouldn't feel hungry... at all!

Well.... I got ripped off. I have had hunger pains since 3 days after surgery. I thought something was wrong with me. People were trying to tell me it was "head hunger" or that I needed more water. So I would drink and drink and drink till I wanted to cry and nothing helped. I was convinced that it was all in my head and I shouldnt give in to the gut wrenching pains of hunger and eat. I was so afraid I would eat the wrong thing or eat when I wasnt supposed to and screw up everything I worked so hard to achieve. What I found out is... not everyone gets this "honeymoon"... we just dont admit it cause we want to be like everyone else. We want our success to be just as great as the rest of the pack. Since I have come forward and spoke loudly about my feelings of being cheated and hungry, I have found many others that feel hungry all the time too. I have now learned to feed my body when it is hungry. To listen to it. It knows what it needs. I dont crave sweets. I dont crave foods I am not supposed to eat. I just want a protein shake or some kind of protein. I have to have something in my pouch ever couple of hours. So I have 3 protein shakes a day now and have 3 meals that are usually between 2-4 oz.. depending on how dense it is.

I can hear some of you saying "she is going to gain weight". Well... it's been 11 weeks and I have lost 70 lbs. I didnt lose much in the beginning. I was starving myself. When I started feeding my hunger I started losing more.

I say to go for it Esther!! But be aware that you MAY feel hunger. You just need to learn what kind of hunger it is and then make the right choices of what you put in your mouth.

Food is not for comfort anymore. Its not to keep you from being bored. And it doesn't have to represent a celebration anymore. You will learn to eat to feed your body instead of feeding your emotions.

Trust me when I say.... You well learn more about yourself during this journey then you can ever imagine!

Just my 2 cents worth

Hugs,

Kym

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Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:16:48 -0000

Subject: Orientation and hunger pains

well after that orientation I was reeling on do I really want to do

this, it is so drastic. But I finally decided, Yes, I do want this,

I need to have this tool to help me, I have tried to lose weight and

had not had much success. Well, going to start all my journaling

today, and measuring and weighing all my food. I already have 2

scales to weight things from previous diets. I do need to go buy a

bathroom scale, since I used to weigh at work and now that I am out

of disability, I don't have access.

I also decide I have to change How I look at food, it isn't my best

friend anymore it is also just another tool to keep my body going.

I do have a question, I have this hunger pain, a feeling of

something nawing at my stomach, and the pain goes away when I eat.

Will this nawing pain go away after the bypass? I have heard that

afterwards you will not have any hunger pains is that true?

Thanks,

Esther

328

[Guest guest]

Kym I agree we are all different and we must learn what our body needs to make this WLS a success. We are all given a general plan on what to do, but modification for each and every one has to be made, whether it's the timing of eating, the protein drinks, how many vitamins you take (I take a lot more than most), but making the right food choices and doing the exercise, water and vitamins are a must. Adjusting to your body needs that work for your body you do learn in this journey if you are willing to listen to your body. Take care. DonnaKym wrote:

Hello All, I have been rather quiet on the list of late since surgery. I wanted to address this topic because it is something that hits home with me. When I went to all my orientation meetings and support groups, before surgery, I was told by surgeons and WLS patients that I would have a "honeymoon" period for the first year after surgery. During this "honeymoon" I would have to force myself to eat because I wouldn't feel hungry... at all! Well.... I got ripped off. I have had hunger pains since 3 days after surgery. I thought something was wrong with me. People were trying to tell me it was "head hunger" or that I needed more water. So I would drink and drink and drink till I wanted to cry and nothing helped. I was convinced that it was all in my head and I shouldnt give in to the gut wrenching pains of hunger and eat. I was so afraid I would eat the wrong thing or eat when I wasnt supposed to and

screw up everything I worked so hard to achieve. What I found out is... not everyone gets this "honeymoon"... we just dont admit it cause we want to be like everyone else. We want our success to be just as great as the rest of the pack. Since I have come forward and spoke loudly about my feelings of being cheated and hungry, I have found many others that feel hungry all the time too. I have now learned to feed my body when it is hungry. To listen to it. It knows what it needs. I dont crave sweets. I dont crave foods I am not supposed to eat. I just want a protein shake or some kind of protein. I have to have something in my pouch ever couple of hours. So I have 3 protein shakes a day now and have 3 meals that are usually between 2-4 oz.. depending on how dense it is. I can hear some of you saying "she is going to gain weight". Well... it's been 11 weeks and I have lost 70 lbs. I didnt lose much in the beginning. I was starving myself. When I started

feeding my hunger I started losing more. I say to go for it Esther!! But be aware that you MAY feel hunger. You just need to learn what kind of hunger it is and then make the right choices of what you put in your mouth. Food is not for comfort anymore. Its not to keep you from being bored. And it doesn't have to represent a celebration anymore. You will learn to eat to feed your body instead of feeding your emotions. Trust me when I say.... You well learn more about yourself during this journey then you can ever imagine! Just my 2 cents worth Hugs, Kym Message: 1 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:16:48 -0000 Subject: Orientation and hunger pains well after that orientation I was reeling on do I really want to do this, it is so drastic. But I finally decided, Yes, I do want this, I need to have this tool to help me, I have tried to lose weight and had not had much success. Well, going to start all my journaling today, and measuring and weighing all my food. I already have 2 scales to weight things from previous diets. I do need to go buy a bathroom scale, since I used to weigh at work and now that I am out of disability, I don't have access. I also decide I have to change How I look at food, it isn't my best friend anymore it is also just another tool to keep my body going. I do

have a question, I have this hunger pain, a feeling of something nawing at my stomach, and the pain goes away when I eat. Will this nawing pain go away after the bypass? I have heard that afterwards you will not have any hunger pains is that true? Thanks, Esther 328 Donna JordonDSJordon@...

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