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Hi ,

I know that clubfoot and its treatment was described by Hippocrates.

If you do a search on clubfoot and his name you might come up with

some good links.

My dictionary says the term " clubfoot " originated in 1538 but doesn't

say anything further about its etymology.

here's a bit of other info I had on history/terms etc.

• Clubfoot has been a recognized condition since the time of

the ancient Egyptians, and the condition was independently described

by Hippocrates and the Aztecs.

• Despite knowing about the condition for many centuries, it is

still considered idiopathic, which means that its cause is unknown.

(The likely factors that contribute to its development are discussed

below in the section, `What causes clubfoot?')

here's a link to an article on history:

Prog Pediatr Surg. 1986;20:215-37. Related Articles, Links

Club-foot through the centuries.

Strach EH.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

cmd=Retrieve & db=PubMed & list_uids=3095875 & dopt=Abstract

" The Latin word talipes was compounded from talus (ankle) + pes

(foot) since, with a clubfoot, the foot is turned in sharply and the

person seems to be walking on their ankle. Equino- indicates the heel

is elevated (like a horse's) and -varus indicates it is turned

inward. "

" Background: Clubfoot, or talipes equinovarus, is a congenital

deformity consisting of hindfoot equinus, hindfoot varus, and

forefoot varus. The deformity was described as early as the time of

Hippocrates. The term talipes is derived from a contraction of the

Latin words for ankle, talus, and foot, pes. The term refers to the

gait of severely affected patients, who walked on their ankles. "

As far as other languages, off the top of my head I can think of

klumpfuss, the German term.

good luck! I'd be very interested to read what you end up with..

> I am researching the origin of the word clubfoot for something I'm

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> So far I haven't been able to find a reliable explanation of how it

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> originally named a clubfoot. It seems to have been around for a

long time

> though. Does anyone know?

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> And I'm looking for translations in other languages that also mean

> " clubfoot " , like " pied bot " in French, etc.

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> And finally, any anecdotes about the history of clubfoot, clubfoot

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> literature, etc also appreciated.

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I was told that the term " clubfoot " originated from the golf club.

The foot is turned in and looks like a golf club.

> I am researching the origin of the word clubfoot for something I'm

writing.

>

>

> So far I haven't been able to find a reliable explanation of how

it was

> originally named a clubfoot. It seems to have been around for a

long time

> though. Does anyone know?

>

> And I'm looking for translations in other languages that also mean

> " clubfoot " , like " pied bot " in French, etc.

>

> And finally, any anecdotes about the history of clubfoot, clubfoot

in

> literature, etc also appreciated.

>

> One French site has quite a bit on that, but my schoolgirl French

is taking

> strain - I must try a translation programme.

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I found this on a website about golf instruction:

" Various authorities have credited any number of peoples- Celts,

Romans, Huns or a band of leisure-loving Visigoths- with the

invention of golf in its earliest form. But the story of golf

instruction begins rightly in the medieval era (no later than 1353),

when golfers adopted the principle of allowing each team to hit a

second uninterrupted shot. "

> > I am researching the origin of the word clubfoot for something

I'm

> writing.

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> > So far I haven't been able to find a reliable explanation of how

> it was

> > originally named a clubfoot. It seems to have been around for a

> long time

> > though. Does anyone know?

> >

> > And I'm looking for translations in other languages that also

mean

> > " clubfoot " , like " pied bot " in French, etc.

> >

> > And finally, any anecdotes about the history of clubfoot,

clubfoot

> in

> > literature, etc also appreciated.

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> > One French site has quite a bit on that, but my schoolgirl

French

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> > strain - I must try a translation programme.

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Golf was invented early 1400s. So it is possible.

Here's the link:

http://www.golfing-scotland.com/history.asp#1

Kathleen

> > I am researching the origin of the word clubfoot for something

I'm

> writing.

> >

> >

> > So far I haven't been able to find a reliable explanation of how

> it was

> > originally named a clubfoot. It seems to have been around for a

> long time

> > though. Does anyone know?

> >

> > And I'm looking for translations in other languages that also

mean

> > " clubfoot " , like " pied bot " in French, etc.

> >

> > And finally, any anecdotes about the history of clubfoot,

clubfoot

> in

> > literature, etc also appreciated.

> >

> > One French site has quite a bit on that, but my schoolgirl

French

> is taking

> > strain - I must try a translation programme.

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Here's another bit of info I found off of the MSN Encarta search on

Golf...

Some historians believe that golf originated in The Netherlands (the

Dutch word kolf means " club " ), but the Romans had a game played with

a bent stick and a ball made of feathers that may have been the

original source of the game. It has been fairly well established,

however, that the game that is known today was actually devised by

the Scots in the 14th or 15th century. The game became so popular in

Scotland that in order to keep people from playing golf when they

should have been practicing archery, a military necessity, the

ish parliament passed a special law in 1457. The ish

people, however, largely ignored this and similar laws, and early in

the 16th century IV, king of Scotland, took up the game of

golf. His granddaughter , later , Queen of Scots, played the

game in France, where she was raised. The young men who attended her

on the golf links were known as cadets (pupils); the term was

adopted later in Scotland and England and became caddie or caddy.

(Caddies, once an integral feature of the game, have now been

replaced on many courses by motorized carts and pull carts.) In

England the game was made popular by the attention given it by

VI of Scotland, later I of England, and his son I.

In the 18th century the first golf associations were established.

They included the Honourable Company of Edinburgh Golfers (founded

1744) in Edinburgh, Scotland; the Saint s Society of Golfers

(1754) in Saint s, Scotland, which in 1834 took its present

name, the Royal and Ancient Golf Club of Saint s; and the

Royal Blackheath (1766), near London, England, where, according to

tradition, golf was introduced to England in 1608. The first clubs

established outside Britain were in India, at the Calcutta Golf Club

of East India (1829) and the Royal Bombay Club (1842). The first

golf club established in the Western Hemisphere was Canada's Royal

Montréal Golf Club, founded in 1873. It is believed by some that

golf was played in North America during the colonial period (17th

and 18th centuries), but no documented proof of this has been

advanced. In 1888 the Saint 's Golf Club of Yonkers, New York,

was established. Most authorities agree that this is the oldest

continuously existing golf club in the United States.

Before 1913, golf in the United States was played chiefly by people

of wealth. In 1913, however, after a former caddie from the United

States named Francis Ouimet won a victory over two outstanding

British professionals in the U.S. Open Championship tournament (open

to amateurs and professionals), golf came to the attention of the

broader American public. The popularity of the game in the United

States and Britain reached great heights by the 1920s and steadily

increased over the years, fostered by television coverage. In the

United States alone, more than 16,000 golf courses serve more than

26 million people who play golf at least once a year. Golf is also

growing in popularity in continental Europe, Canada, South Africa,

Australia, Japan, and many other parts of the world.

> > I am researching the origin of the word clubfoot for something

I'm

> writing.

> >

> >

> > So far I haven't been able to find a reliable explanation of how

> it was

> > originally named a clubfoot. It seems to have been around for a

> long time

> > though. Does anyone know?

> >

> > And I'm looking for translations in other languages that also

mean

> > " clubfoot " , like " pied bot " in French, etc.

> >

> > And finally, any anecdotes about the history of clubfoot,

clubfoot

> in

> > literature, etc also appreciated.

> >

> > One French site has quite a bit on that, but my schoolgirl

French

> is taking

> > strain - I must try a translation programme.

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> > www.clubfoot.co.za <http://www.clubfoot.co.za/>

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> > Moss

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> > STEPS CHARITY

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> > <http://www.steps.org.za> www.steps.org.za

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I always just figured that the name 'clubfoot' was a visually

descriptive term of what the condition made the leg look like in days

of old, or if untreated (a club).

Do you know offhand what pied bot, pie zambo, klumpfuss, etc.,

literally translate to?

Interesting how a euphemism hasn't taken hold, as it has for other

archaic medical descriptors. (I know there's 'talipes', but somehow

that seems too ... remote, Latin or ... something for me to get used

to.)

About that journal article.. I wonder if a library would be able to

get a copy for you. Or contact the journal directly and pay for a

copy.

Good luck,

> > > I am researching the origin of the word clubfoot for something

> I'm

> > writing.

> > >

> > >

> > > So far I haven't been able to find a reliable explanation of

how

> > it was

> > > originally named a clubfoot. It seems to have been around for

a

> > long time

> > > though. Does anyone know?

> > >

> > > And I'm looking for translations in other languages that also

> mean

> > > " clubfoot " , like " pied bot " in French, etc.

> > >

> > > And finally, any anecdotes about the history of clubfoot,

> clubfoot

> > in

> > > literature, etc also appreciated.

> > >

> > > One French site has quite a bit on that, but my schoolgirl

> French

> > is taking

> > > strain - I must try a translation programme.

> > >

> > >

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> > > www.clubfoot.co.za <http://www.clubfoot.co.za/>

> > >

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> > > Moss

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> > > STEPS CHARITY

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> > > <http://www.steps.org.za> www.steps.org.za

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I found the reference at PubMed, which you can use to search for any

medical article ever written.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=PubMed

It says the article was published in " Progress in Pediatric Surgery "

which we have here in our library at Wash U. I will walk over there

this afternoon and look for it, if I can find it I can at least make

you a photo copy. You may find the PubMed site helpful for your

research as well, a lot of the journals have links directly to an

article. I also have access to a lot of online journals just because

I work at Wash U. so if there is something that has a link but you

can't get to because you don't have a subscription let me know and I

can see if it is something I can get for you.

Hope this helps,

> > I am researching the origin of the word clubfoot for something I'm

> writing.

> >

> >

> > So far I haven't been able to find a reliable explanation of how it

> was

> > originally named a clubfoot. It seems to have been around for a

> long time

> > though. Does anyone know?

> >

> > And I'm looking for translations in other languages that also mean

> > " clubfoot " , like " pied bot " in French, etc.

> >

> > And finally, any anecdotes about the history of clubfoot, clubfoot

> in

> > literature, etc also appreciated.

> >

> > One French site has quite a bit on that, but my schoolgirl French

> is taking

> > strain - I must try a translation programme.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > www.clubfoot.co.za <http://www.clubfoot.co.za/>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Moss

> >

> > STEPS CHARITY

> >

> > <http://www.steps.org.za> www.steps.org.za

> >

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