Guest guest Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 Bizz - boy! do I know how you feel! I've worked like a dog these past couple of weeks to take off weight and I actually got down 7 pounds - then got my period and it all came back plus 2 more. I know it's just my silly body chemistry working, but how discouraging! I don't know how I'm going to manage 10%, BUT - I'm determined! I will keep swimming and watching what I eat and come hell or high water I'm going to do it. Don't be too discouraged. We can both hold hands and scream if you want... My heart goes out to you! in Cupertino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 I STRUGGLED WITH THE SAME PROBLEM BUT IM GETTING THE SURGERY ANYWAY WITHOUT THE 10%BEING LOST BUT WORK AT IT YOU CAN DO IT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 I'm having the hardest time losing the 10%! I can't figure out if it's because I'm scared of the surgery, or what's going on. I know I want the surgery so bad, and I lose 4 or 5 pounds then put it back on. Did anyone else struggle with the 10% weight loss? If so, can you offer me any advice? I'm so depressed about it!! I don't know why I'm punishing myself this way! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 First off..dont think of yourself as punishing yourself. There is no good or bad ok. Second: Start by giving up one thing at a time that you wont be able to have post op. The first thing I did was give up soda...completely..no diet. Then move on to something else when you got that beat. Also, really really journal everything you eat. Whether in a notebook or using an online source like fitday.com, it will really help you see patterns. Increase your water. Im not a big water person so this one was a struggle for me and still is. Then find something to begin exercising. If you have mobility issues, try things you can do sitting first. Lift a can of beans. Walk down your driveway and back, then two houses down, then a block. Gradually increase as you can. You can do this. You are worth this. And we will help all we can. Huggles > > I'm having the hardest time losing the 10%! I can't figure out if it's > because I'm scared of the surgery, or what's going on. I know I want > the surgery so bad, and I lose 4 or 5 pounds then put it back on. > > Did anyone else struggle with the 10% weight loss? If so, can you > offer me any advice? > > I'm so depressed about it!! I don't know why I'm punishing myself this > way! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 I think most of us have struggled with that first 10%. Keep drinking the water, excercising and stick to the 1200 calerie diet. Let me tell it will be worth the struggle you are going through. Don't give up now. PEGGY > > I'm having the hardest time losing the 10%! I can't figure out if it's > because I'm scared of the surgery, or what's going on. I know I want > the surgery so bad, and I lose 4 or 5 pounds then put it back on. > > Did anyone else struggle with the 10% weight loss? If so, can you > offer me any advice? > > I'm so depressed about it!! I don't know why I'm punishing myself this > way! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 What I did was eliminate almost all the carbs. Basically used an Atkins approach. At 14:53 03/10/2006, you wrote: >I'm having the hardest time losing the 10%! I can't figure out if it's >because I'm scared of the surgery, or what's going on. I know I want >the surgery so bad, and I lose 4 or 5 pounds then put it back on. > >Did anyone else struggle with the 10% weight loss? If so, can you >offer me any advice? > >I'm so depressed about it!! I don't know why I'm punishing myself this >way! Eleanor Oster eleanor@... (personal address) www.smallboxes.com/gastricbypass.htm San , CA Open RNY (100 cm bypassed) 07/15/2003 P. Fisher, M.D., Kaiser Richmond (CA) ~5'9 " tall 05/09/2003 319 Orientation 07/15/2003 ~290 Surgery Current 157±2 Goal until plastics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 Amen, Peggy! But I will add something: for most of us who have not exercised in a long time, you wil find that if you start and stick to it and add to it, you will lose whether you eat 1200 or 1500 calories. And I promise you, if you exercise and stick to it, you will feel better to the extent that you will get more satisfaction out of sticking to 1200 calories. Another tip - do one vegetarian day a week. Hot or cold cereal or yogurt and a small fruit for breakfast, the big salad with a nonfat vinaigrette for lunch, and your favorite veggie dish for dinner. That adds up, usually, to one day a week of 800 calories - and that's a big boost for most folks. Next suggestion: embrace your inner fish! Eat fish for at least seven meals a week - four dinners, two lunches, one breakfast - and you will lose more weight. Don't use butter - use olive or canola oil spray - and you can have a reasonable sauce if that makes fish more palatable. But eating the omega-3 fatty acid oils in fish instead of the kind of fats we usually eat gears your body to lose weight. You will also find that after surgery, fish is the most efficient and densest source of real-food protein you can eat. If you like, or can develop a liking, for breakfast-type canned fishes packed in water like sardines, you will find that two to three ounces of sardines will provide 30 grams of protein, nearly half your daily need. And when they tell you to eat your protein first, eating it first in the day, not just first in the meal, makes you feel more energetic. Last advice: if you stick to diets better by promising yourself a splurge once a week, then by all means do that - but NEVER exceed the once-a-week pace. Also, splurging on fried stuff is better than splurging on sugars or starchy complex-carb stuff like pizza. Randy > > > > I'm having the hardest time losing the 10%! I can't figure out if > it's > > because I'm scared of the surgery, or what's going on. I know I want > > the surgery so bad, and I lose 4 or 5 pounds then put it back on. > > > > Did anyone else struggle with the 10% weight loss? If so, can you > > offer me any advice? > > > > I'm so depressed about it!! I don't know why I'm punishing myself > this > > way! > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 Sounds like terrific advise, keep up the good work. Love to you all, Nadia from Singapore > >Reply-To: gastric-bypass-support-kaiser-patients >To: gastric-bypass-support-kaiser-patients >Subject: Re: Ten Percent >Date: Sat, 11 Mar 2006 05:12:26 -0000 > >Amen, Peggy! But I will add something: for most of us who have not >exercised in a long time, you wil find that if you start and stick >to it and add to it, you will lose whether you eat 1200 or 1500 >calories. And I promise you, if you exercise and stick to it, you >will feel better to the extent that you will get more satisfaction >out of sticking to 1200 calories. > >Another tip - do one vegetarian day a week. Hot or cold cereal or >yogurt and a small fruit for breakfast, the big salad with a nonfat >vinaigrette for lunch, and your favorite veggie dish for dinner. >That adds up, usually, to one day a week of 800 calories - and >that's a big boost for most folks. > >Next suggestion: embrace your inner fish! Eat fish for at least >seven meals a week - four dinners, two lunches, one breakfast - and >you will lose more weight. Don't use butter - use olive or canola >oil spray - and you can have a reasonable sauce if that makes fish >more palatable. But eating the omega-3 fatty acid oils in fish >instead of the kind of fats we usually eat gears your body to lose >weight. You will also find that after surgery, fish is the most >efficient and densest source of real-food protein you can eat. If >you like, or can develop a liking, for breakfast-type canned fishes >packed in water like sardines, you will find that two to three >ounces of sardines will provide 30 grams of protein, nearly half >your daily need. And when they tell you to eat your protein first, >eating it first in the day, not just first in the meal, makes you >feel more energetic. > >Last advice: if you stick to diets better by promising yourself a >splurge once a week, then by all means do that - but NEVER exceed >the once-a-week pace. Also, splurging on fried stuff is better than >splurging on sugars or starchy complex-carb stuff like pizza. > >Randy > > > > > > > > I'm having the hardest time losing the 10%! I can't figure out >if > > it's > > > because I'm scared of the surgery, or what's going on. I know I >want > > > the surgery so bad, and I lose 4 or 5 pounds then put it back on. > > > > > > Did anyone else struggle with the 10% weight loss? If so, can >you > > > offer me any advice? > > > > > > I'm so depressed about it!! I don't know why I'm punishing >myself > > this > > > way! > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2006 Report Share Posted March 11, 2006 How is this possible? Are you far away? We can only get the surgery when we have lost the 10% I don't think there are any exceptions around here. Lilka > > I STRUGGLED WITH THE SAME PROBLEM BUT IM GETTING THE SURGERY ANYWAY WITHOUT > THE 10%BEING LOST BUT WORK AT IT YOU CAN DO IT > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 11, 2006 Report Share Posted March 11, 2006 I too, am wondering how you are getting surgery without losing the 10%... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2006 Report Share Posted March 12, 2006 Lilka, There are sometimes exceptions to the 10% rule. At my initial meeting with Dr Stiles, she gave me a weight loss goal that was not 10% I've met that and beyond, but not quite 10%, which would have been 40 pounds. Bleu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 12, 2006 Report Share Posted March 12, 2006 Are you in SSF? I know they don't have the 10% rule. They are really opposed to it and they believe you are ready when you are ready. They also recommend shakes which richmond does not. I think the 10% rule is good because no one feels he is getting some special treatment but it is true, when you are ready you are ready. Good luck to you, Bleu. I am excited for you. Love, Lilka > > Lilka, > > There are sometimes exceptions to the 10% rule. At my initial meeting with > Dr Stiles, she gave me a weight loss goal that was not 10% I've met that and > beyond, but not quite 10%, which would have been 40 pounds. > > Bleu > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 I was done at SSF, and because of my heart condition, when I started the program at 313, they gave me a weight loss goal of only twelve pounds. I lost that in about three weeks and they were ready to schedule me for surgery in January of 2005, but I took myself off the list because my health was poor and I did not feel ready. When my health improved in March, they were not going to be able to schedule me in time for my busy time of the year at work, which lasted from May to October, so we agreed to postpone surgery until late October. My health continued to improve throughout the year (how else should I spend a five-month delay in surgery? Gain weight back?), I was able to exercise again, but starting in August, every appointment I had with any of the bariatric staff, they kept changing my new weight-loss goal. At a November appointment with Dr. Umbach, he gave me a weight loss goal of 280 by my next appointment, which was five weeks from then - an additional loss of 24 pounds at that time. I made it clear, both at that appointment and through my patient advocate, that if they refused to perform the surgery at that weight, I would have it done elsewhere and take legal action against Kaiser to recover the costs plus damages. At my next appointment with Dr. Umbach in December, I weighed 274 - and he finally kept his word, I was soon after scheduled for the surgery I had on Feb. 2. The more observant among you will realize that from my starting weight of 313 to the final goal of 280 is...10%! Believe me, if they had said straightforwardly from the start that 10% was the goal, I would have done things differently and been ready earlier. If I had undergone the surgery in October of last year instead of February of this year, my weight would have been way down by now, my exercise and strength way up, and my lifelong adjustment to post-bariatric life much more advanced and settled...and whether that means I would be in better shape to combat cancer is a question no one will ever be able to answer. All I know is that I suffered emotionally from all the times they moved the goalposts on me - even though I never questioned and still do not disagree with their motives in changing my goals. Nevertheless, for those of you who have been given a 10% target, I can say this: I know it ain't easy, but SHUT UP AND BE GRATEFUL!!!!!!! Certainty beats uncertainty every time. I may not live much longer, but I have lived long enough to KNOW that. Lilka is exactly right. We support each other, so anything that makes us feel that no one is entitled to special treatment is a good thing. Randy > > > > Lilka, > > > > There are sometimes exceptions to the 10% rule. At my initial > meeting with > > Dr Stiles, she gave me a weight loss goal that was not 10% I've met > that and > > beyond, but not quite 10%, which would have been 40 pounds. > > > > Bleu > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 How interesting, Randy. Good luck to you now. I have a friend who had a heart attack, then later had the surgery. She is absoultely healthy. No diabetes, no heart attack, full of energy. She recommended this to me strongly and here I am on the other side. With love and good wishes. Lilka > > > > > > Lilka, > > > > > > There are sometimes exceptions to the 10% rule. At my initial > > meeting with > > > Dr Stiles, she gave me a weight loss goal that was not 10% I've > met > > that and > > > beyond, but not quite 10%, which would have been 40 pounds. > > > > > > Bleu > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 I just had my first appt. with Dr. Stiles on Friday, and got my initial target goal - 30 lbs, which is slightly under ten percent. However, it came with the caveat that at that point I'd have a consult with one of the surgeons and the surgeon would make the final decision whether or not that was enough weight loss to let him work effectively, since I tend to carry a lot of my weight in the form of central obesity (fat in the midsection). However, since I'd more or less primed myself to have to lose up to 45 lbs, I'm still feeling as if I've been given a reprieve! Cathy C. > > Are you in SSF? I know they don't have the 10% rule. They are really > opposed to it and they believe you are ready when you are ready. They > also recommend shakes which richmond does not. I think the 10% rule is > good because no one feels he is getting some special treatment but it > is true, when you are ready you are ready. Good luck to you, Bleu. I > am excited for you. Love, Lilka Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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