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Just my 2 cents worth, but. . .

I had the VBG back in 1993. Afterwards I was not allowed to eat any solid

foods for the first 2 months. What I was allowed was 2 oz (they gave me a

nice glass cup with their logo on it that measured 1oz and 2 oz) of a protein

drink every 4 hours. I was also allowed to drink water at the 2oz level

every hour.

When I graduated to semi-solid foods I was allowed to " eat " 2 oz every 4

hours and add the protein drink for a total of 4 oz. Never got beyond the 2

oz mark. Gradually I was able to add scrambled hamburger, some salad greens,

etc.

Let me tell you, I was miserable. I was losing the weight, but I was being

punished because I could not go to lunch with anyone because I couldn't eat

the food. I couldn't eat regular food because if I did and I didn't chew it

into mush, it would make me puke. I puked a lot!!

Then I found out that ice cream went down really well. Then cake, then

cookies and candy. I ate candy. . .mostly hard candy all of the time. I was

allowed to drink more volumn of water, and added diet soda to my list of

liquids. I drank a 12 pack a day! I drank tons of coffee. I was a caffine

nut.

Why did I drink so much caffine? Because it dulled the hunger pains. I was

never really satisfied. I was always hungry, but if I ate, I puked.

Then one day I finally puked so much the band became lose. I felt it go.

Then I could eat again. Well, yes, I gained the weight back. I never

" learned " how to eat. I did keep off almost 30 lbs from the VBG weight loss.

I still puked a lot and did learn to eat slowly. . .well, I grazed all day.

Then I learned about the BPD/DS. The only other surgery I had heard about

was the RNY and when I went to UCLA, the doctor turned me down flat saying it

was not medically necessary. He was not the one regaining the weight, he was

not the one with the horrible stomach cramps, he was not the one hurling

constantly. He was not the one with the hiatial hernia.

I finally got insurance that would cover the BPD/DS. I found a surgeon who

would do the surgery and take the insurance I was carrying. I met with Dr.

Anthone at USC and told him UCLA turned me down flat and I was desperate.

That band was somewhere inside of me. . .I didn't know if it was floating

around or what. I knew that during the upper GI the barium did not fill the

upper left hand quadrant of my stomach no matter what position they laid me

in. . .and I was almost upside down on that table. That I had the VBG, and

it failed, and I was on my way back up to past 250! I needed help and could

he?

He did. Long story short, 8 1/2 hours of surgery and I was officially

switched.

Now, I lost the weight, I feel great, still have 20 lobs to go.

But, the main thing is. . .I feel totally satisfied when I eat. I know what

full is. I am not unhappy that I cannot eat more. My body tells me when I

have had enough. I never got that with the VBG. I'd personally be afraid to

have the RNY knowing that they were taking the functioning stomach away and

giving me a little pouch that drops food into the intestines.

My stomach may only be the size of a hot dog, but it works by filling and

emptying on it's own. The intestines have been moved around, but if I ever

got too skinny LOL, they can be rearranged. With RNY, your stomach can NEVER

be put back into working order. You may never be able to eat real food

again. I couldn't do that. I was punished all my life being fat. I was

punished when I ate when I had that VBG. Now, I'm just normal and don't get

punished for eating.

I read the post on the OSSG revision site, and those people are hurting, wt

gain, second and third surgeries, liquids all the time, no real food.

Enough said.

Blessed Be

Cat Woman

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Cat Woman, I love to see your posts and follow your story. I had

that damnable VGB in 1994, and had much the same experience as you

with what went down well. Chips and dip, ice cream, chocolate etc.

I never had an " event " where I felt the change in capacity, it just

gradually got easier and easier to eat more.

In doing my research, I contacted the University of Colorado looking

for WLS specialists. They sent me back information stating that they

no longer did the VGB because of its satistically bad outcomes (well

duh!) Also, they listed the average weight loss MAINTENANCE of RNY at

65% of excess weight lost and maintained at 5 years out. It just

wasnt good enough for me. The very last thing I wanted was another

failed WLS.

I had the DS on 6/21/01. Dr Hess said my stomach was abnormally

large, and that the staples were pretty much gone. My stomach had

stretched to a huge capacity to compensate for the stapling.

I'm down 42lbs and feeling good.Recovery from this is much easier

than the VGB. Arent we smart?

Meli

> Just my 2 cents worth, but. . .

>

> I had the VBG back in 1993. Afterwards I was not allowed to eat

any solid

> foods for the first 2 months. What I was allowed was 2 oz (they

gave me a

> nice glass cup with their logo on it that measured 1oz and 2 oz) of

a protein

> drink every 4 hours. I was also allowed to drink water at the 2oz

level

> every hour.

>

> When I graduated to semi-solid foods I was allowed to " eat " 2 oz

every 4

> hours and add the protein drink for a total of 4 oz. Never got

beyond the 2

> oz mark. Gradually I was able to add scrambled hamburger, some

salad greens,

> etc.

>

> Let me tell you, I was miserable. I was losing the weight, but I

was being

> punished because I could not go to lunch with anyone because I

couldn't eat

> the food. I couldn't eat regular food because if I did and I

didn't chew it

> into mush, it would make me puke. I puked a lot!!

>

> Then I found out that ice cream went down really well. Then cake,

then

> cookies and candy. I ate candy. . .mostly hard candy all of the

time. I was

> allowed to drink more volumn of water, and added diet soda to my

list of

> liquids. I drank a 12 pack a day! I drank tons of coffee. I was

a caffine

> nut.

>

> Why did I drink so much caffine? Because it dulled the hunger

pains. I was

> never really satisfied. I was always hungry, but if I ate, I puked.

>

> Then one day I finally puked so much the band became lose. I felt

it go.

>

> Then I could eat again. Well, yes, I gained the weight back. I

never

> " learned " how to eat. I did keep off almost 30 lbs from the VBG

weight loss.

> I still puked a lot and did learn to eat slowly. . .well, I grazed

all day.

>

> Then I learned about the BPD/DS. The only other surgery I had

heard about

> was the RNY and when I went to UCLA, the doctor turned me down flat

saying it

> was not medically necessary. He was not the one regaining the

weight, he was

> not the one with the horrible stomach cramps, he was not the one

hurling

> constantly. He was not the one with the hiatial hernia.

>

> I finally got insurance that would cover the BPD/DS. I found a

surgeon who

> would do the surgery and take the insurance I was carrying. I met

with Dr.

> Anthone at USC and told him UCLA turned me down flat and I was

desperate.

> That band was somewhere inside of me. . .I didn't know if it was

floating

> around or what. I knew that during the upper GI the barium did not

fill the

> upper left hand quadrant of my stomach no matter what position they

laid me

> in. . .and I was almost upside down on that table. That I had the

VBG, and

> it failed, and I was on my way back up to past 250! I needed help

and could

> he?

>

> He did. Long story short, 8 1/2 hours of surgery and I was

officially

> switched.

>

> Now, I lost the weight, I feel great, still have 20 lobs to go.

>

> But, the main thing is. . .I feel totally satisfied when I eat. I

know what

> full is. I am not unhappy that I cannot eat more. My body tells

me when I

> have had enough. I never got that with the VBG. I'd personally be

afraid to

> have the RNY knowing that they were taking the functioning stomach

away and

> giving me a little pouch that drops food into the intestines.

>

> My stomach may only be the size of a hot dog, but it works by

filling and

> emptying on it's own. The intestines have been moved around, but

if I ever

> got too skinny LOL, they can be rearranged. With RNY, your stomach

can NEVER

> be put back into working order. You may never be able to eat real

food

> again. I couldn't do that. I was punished all my life being fat.

I was

> punished when I ate when I had that VBG. Now, I'm just normal and

don't get

> punished for eating.

>

> I read the post on the OSSG revision site, and those people are

hurting, wt

> gain, second and third surgeries, liquids all the time, no real

food.

>

> Enough said.

>

> Blessed Be

>

> Cat Woman

>

>

>

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