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Belinda

posted some information a few days ago that some think some

kids have difficulty with bifidus. Ultra Flora Plus has bifidus.

You could drop it for a few days and see if he gets better. It could

be that he is experiencing yeast die-off, though. I don't know how

long that could last, maybe someone else can help with that

question.

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From: " jornmatt <kjorn@...> " <kjorn@...>

Date: Mon Jan 20, 2003 10:42 pm

Subject: OT: Probiotic tip from SCD on bifidus

On the groups for Specific Carbohydrate Diet which is designed to

heal a severly injured gut, heal colon problems, and bacteria...they

strongly advise AGAINST using the probiotic bifidus. I asked why

because bifidus is commonly in many probiotics as a key bacteria for

the colon. However, the SCD researchers say that although bifidus

can be a 'good' bacteria, it is capable of overrunning the

neighborhood and becoming a problem itself. They say it is common

for those with colon problems and celiac to have extra high

populations of bifidus...and when they are brought under control,

the person gets better. The SCD advises sticking to acidophilus,

thermophilus, and bulgaris as key players.

A couple of people using the SCD also chimmed in saying that when

they finally took out the extra bifidus, they felt much much better.

Something to keep in mind if you are wrestling with colon or

bacteria problems.

.

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Nicky's been taking bifidus longum, infantis, breve w/o trouble, but in a mix

that has no FOS in it. Could it be the FOS not the bifidus? V. important

to know how your child does on FOS.

I went and bought some other products, too, w/o bifidus, but haven't tried

them yet for comparison.

Is bifidus the same as bifidobacterium? sometimes there's more than one

word for same bacteria, but v. similar words usually.

Marti

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Black Walnut will take out parasites if given over a long enough period. Die

off from that can be worse than yeast die off. I think your dosing is fine,

keep going, plenty of fluids :)

Mandi in UK

We started my son on black walnut hull to treat him for yeast. He

has been taking 1/4 cap for 2 days. He is having more frequent BM's

and his last one shortly after the black walnut hull was very large

and very loose. He also has the typical symptoms of yeast. Large

circles under his eyes, red spot on cheek, and a large ring around

his bottom. Very tired. Going to bed early and sleeping OK. Only

up once last night. Had a little rice milk and then back to sleep.

His moods seem OK. Are the typical symptoms of yeast also a part of

the die off? Also, we are giving his enzymes at the beginning of

his meals and the black walnut hull at the end of his meal (only at

lunch). Is this OK? Thanks so much for your input!

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If you mean for yeast, IMHO, enzymes and probiotics although some may need

an active killer to get things nder control like GSE (OTC and widely available)

which unfoirtunately tastes awful. Enzymes by HNI with meals, HNI pep and NO

Fenol between, Candex at night, probiotics somewhere in between.

This is a many pronged attack, improved digestion, greater up take of

nutrients, gut healing, yeast wall dissoving, repopulation with good stuff kinda

protocol. Its the sort of thing you can do long term, adjusting back on dosing

as things improve, which will maintain the gains etc. This works for us even

through chelation with ALA/DMSa which many abandon due to gut bug issues.

Good luck

Mand in Uk

what if you don't have black walnut for parasites...what is the next best

thing to give to an adult? and a child?

thanks...

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Hi,

It is sometimes hard to tell die-off from other illnesses. However,

there are several supplements you can try to alleviate die-off

symptoms: protease (like HNI Peptizide), vitamin C, AlkaSeltzer Gold

(only gold) and activated charcoal. My daughter also finds epsom

salts baths very helpful for making her feel better when she has die-off.

In general it is best to go slow and try to avoid die-off both because

it overwhelms your child's immune system and liver trying to clean out

all those endotoxins and because it is just a physically horrible

experience for them.

I believe you are giving GSE for the 1st time. It is possible this is

some kind of intolerance reaction to GSE itself, too. However, my

experience is that die-off is often like flu.

Good luck,

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---Whenever I get yeast dieoff, I mostly get rashes. I had one on my

chest about 3 inches across that stayed for about a week.

In , " weinert56 " <weinert@l...>

wrote:

> Hi,

>

> It is sometimes hard to tell die-off from other illnesses. However,

> there are several supplements you can try to alleviate die-off

> symptoms: protease (like HNI Peptizide), vitamin C, AlkaSeltzer

Gold

> (only gold) and activated charcoal. My daughter also finds epsom

> salts baths very helpful for making her feel better when she has

die-off.

>

> In general it is best to go slow and try to avoid die-off both

because

> it overwhelms your child's immune system and liver trying to clean

out

> all those endotoxins and because it is just a physically horrible

> experience for them.

>

> I believe you are giving GSE for the 1st time. It is possible this

is

> some kind of intolerance reaction to GSE itself, too. However, my

> experience is that die-off is often like flu.

>

> Good luck,

>

>

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> My question is this. If I am seeing some die off now, how long do I

continue giving the GSE?

You can give activated charcoal about 30-45 minutes after the GSE,

that will help absorb die off toxins.

Give GSE for about a week, until the symptoms disappear. Then give

probiotics.

Dana

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andrea,

this sounds like a typical happy kid i think.

my girl has started acting this way a lot in the past 5 months since

beginning probiotics,etc.

enjoy it! :-)

we have a cat here often...dogs...but mostly we have a character from my

little pony " minty " or " pinky pie " crawling aroun don our floor, yard,

and sidewalk!! hehe

-angi

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> Does this sound like yeast die off to you?

> silly, giggly, huggy, and kissy

> crawling on the driveway pretending to be a cat

> standing in the yard laughing out loud at the horse next door -

who is at least 600 ft away

Giggly and laughing were signs of yeast overgrowth at my house.

Dana

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Has anyone used activated charcoal to help relieve the die off

symptoms of yeast? My DAN! Dr. suggested it to help with Jack's

sensitivities (crying, clinging, hyperactivity). Also, Jack has had

such a poor appetite since starting the Diflucan. Just looking for

some feedback with this journey!

in NJ

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One thing about activated charcoal is it strips everything (hubby the

science guy tells me), even the good stuff. Stan Kurtz has sort of a

protocol listed on how one would do it if changing to his caveman diet.

In his case it is, I think, to reduce ammonia build up, etc. Did the

DAN say to take anything after to avoid dehydration, etc.? We had

ridiculous detox stuff happen on the zince charcoal soap that we no

longer have. I hope that is a sign of healing the gut.

>

> a,

>

> We had some tantrumie (sp) strange stuff w/ yeast die off and MB12.

> Definetley try the activated charcol. I have used charcol zinc soap

which

> really does help, too. But your idea sounds legitimate. Let me know

how it

> goes.

>

> Thanks,

> Colleen

>

> Mother of CHarlie 2.5 years

>

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One thing about diflucan. It has been prescribed for me in the past for

yeast infections and wound up healing gut stuff. Perhaps he has more to

heal???? I have heard that with other yeast remedies that they can

cause or appear to cause gut stuff. Systemic yeast treatment is very

tricky stuff. Best wishes!

>

> Has anyone used activated charcoal to help relieve the die off

> symptoms of yeast? My DAN! Dr. suggested it to help with Jack's

> sensitivities (crying, clinging, hyperactivity). Also, Jack has had

> such a poor appetite since starting the Diflucan. Just looking for

> some feedback with this journey!

> in NJ

>

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Why don't you try Silver colloidal?This is not only a gift from God but it is sooo excellent.. it kills yeast as well.. that i can tell youcheck anything on DR. Bob Beck... do a search and if you do not believe it.. then try something else

But I just want to help you.On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 10:01 AM, lauriejenki <lauriejenki@...> wrote:

 

Can yeast die off cause anxieties ?

We are doing a yeast cleanse with our 10 yr. old Son and into wk. 2 he starts to exhibit severe anxiety issues. He has been making himself throw up anytime we leave the house.

Another thing we've just added during the flu season is vitamin C. Not sure if this could be the cause either.

-- Regards,Dann

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Why don't you try Silver colloidal?This is not only a gift from God but it is sooo excellent.. it kills yeast as well.. that i can tell youcheck anything on DR. Bob Beck... do a search and if you do not believe it.. then try something else

But I just want to help you.On Mon, Oct 12, 2009 at 10:01 AM, lauriejenki <lauriejenki@...> wrote:

 

Can yeast die off cause anxieties ?

We are doing a yeast cleanse with our 10 yr. old Son and into wk. 2 he starts to exhibit severe anxiety issues. He has been making himself throw up anytime we leave the house.

Another thing we've just added during the flu season is vitamin C. Not sure if this could be the cause either.

-- Regards,Dann

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Very common, tons of yeast die off during mercury (metal) detox... consider joining Cutler's autism treatment . I don't agree with everything on that group, but there are many parents with damaged children going through detox issues in that group. Too much email for me now.

From: "Oropallo@..." <Oropallo@...>no-forced-vaccination Sent: Mon, October 12, 2009 1:23:22 PMSubject: Re: Re: Yeast die off

WHere do you get this....

Rose [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Re: Yeast die off

>> Can yeast die off cause anxieties ? > We are doing a yeast cleanse with our 10 yr. old Son and into wk. 2 he starts to exhibit severe anxiety issues. He has been making himself throw up anytime we leave the house. > Another thing we've just added during the flu season is vitamin C. Not sure if this could be the cause either.>Absolutely yeast dying off can cause anxiety and uncomfortable feelings in body and the mind (since they are connected, right?) Get a book on candida....

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Very common, tons of yeast die off during mercury (metal) detox... consider joining Cutler's autism treatment . I don't agree with everything on that group, but there are many parents with damaged children going through detox issues in that group. Too much email for me now.

From: "Oropallo@..." <Oropallo@...>no-forced-vaccination Sent: Mon, October 12, 2009 1:23:22 PMSubject: Re: Re: Yeast die off

WHere do you get this....

Rose [no-forced-vaccinat ion] Re: Yeast die off

>> Can yeast die off cause anxieties ? > We are doing a yeast cleanse with our 10 yr. old Son and into wk. 2 he starts to exhibit severe anxiety issues. He has been making himself throw up anytime we leave the house. > Another thing we've just added during the flu season is vitamin C. Not sure if this could be the cause either.>Absolutely yeast dying off can cause anxiety and uncomfortable feelings in body and the mind (since they are connected, right?) Get a book on candida....

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Yes, yeast die-off can be hard on the body. I am not a doctor.......our family

has suffered through many serious infections. If this was my child I may slow

down the treatment, it may be too much for him--it is better to be slow and

steady than overwhelm. Also, make sure there are no ingredients in the cleanse

that could be a stimulant (but that would surprise me). It is one step at a

time. Finding detox methods are important when you are killing off an

infection. One naturopath recommended Zeolite to me but I don't know if it is

appropriate for children. A Naturopath (fully licensed) might be a good idea.

Don't let people freak you out. You know when your child is ok and not

ok----same syndrome where a mom watches her child get sick after a vaccine and

they think the kid just has emotional problems! Take care!.

>

> Can yeast die off cause anxieties ?

> We are doing a yeast cleanse with our 10 yr. old Son and into wk. 2 he starts

to exhibit severe anxiety issues. He has been making himself throw up anytime

we leave the house.

> Another thing we've just added during the flu season is vitamin C. Not sure

if this could be the cause either.

>

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Yes, yeast die-off can be hard on the body. I am not a doctor.......our family

has suffered through many serious infections. If this was my child I may slow

down the treatment, it may be too much for him--it is better to be slow and

steady than overwhelm. Also, make sure there are no ingredients in the cleanse

that could be a stimulant (but that would surprise me). It is one step at a

time. Finding detox methods are important when you are killing off an

infection. One naturopath recommended Zeolite to me but I don't know if it is

appropriate for children. A Naturopath (fully licensed) might be a good idea.

Don't let people freak you out. You know when your child is ok and not

ok----same syndrome where a mom watches her child get sick after a vaccine and

they think the kid just has emotional problems! Take care!.

>

> Can yeast die off cause anxieties ?

> We are doing a yeast cleanse with our 10 yr. old Son and into wk. 2 he starts

to exhibit severe anxiety issues. He has been making himself throw up anytime

we leave the house.

> Another thing we've just added during the flu season is vitamin C. Not sure

if this could be the cause either.

>

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