Re: Digest Number 3132, kids with behaivor issues.

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Our 8 yr old get like this at times, now less than before as her meds were changed. With her we would put her in her room when she got out of control.At tiems she would trash the room adn make it a big mess.She had to clean it up herself and lost out on playing with her frends around the corner which are at this time about 4-5 years older than her.They play with her and make her feel good. Now does not trash her room. I have bean bags she can throw at her door when she is upset, theraputty, blow straw she chews than she falls asleep.

Our 5 ur old on the other hand if we put him on his bed, he throws things, he gets right back out of it, I have closed him in hisroom and he gets into things that are not safe as he is autitistic and dev delay etc.

So what works for one child does nto always work for hte other.For we spoke iwth a behavior therapist who siad ot write down what happend before his meltdown, how we dealt with it adn what happend after consequences.He than suggested to substitute bad behavior with something child can do. Example: You cannot jump on couch but you can jump on trampoline, you cannot hit mommy but you cqn punch on the punching bag, you can not bite sissy but you can bite this nice cold teething ring. Make sure you let the child know what they are doing is wrong adn substitute it with acceptable behavior .We do that plus rewards. If you do not behave you lose an hour of computer time.he loves the computer so he tires but we still have behavior issues.IT is nto all going to go away overnight. Some behavior issues are caused due to sensory.We increased sensory excercises to every three hours and sensory behavior issues have lessen.

Migdalia (DEE)

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I am generally more of a lurker here but this issue clearly hits home. I have 3 boys and all have some behavorial issues. Clay had a muscle biopsy 3 1/2 years ago and it shows it is maternally inherited (dna testing) but right now only 2 show medical issues. As for behavorial that is another issue.

Jake my oldest is severely add. He is also very small, 57 pounds and off height and weight charts, However, we just upped his concerta does to 74 mgs and we also added 2 ritalins at 5am (started today). Prior to today - I had spent the last several months going to work with a migrane as Jake (along with his brothers) was totally out of control, cursing, fighting etc. He also has anger management issues and clearly always wants to be in control. We saw the ped yesterday and added the ritalin in the AM and upped his concerta. We are also waiting to see a psych as Jakes also has clear mood swings and can get violent throwing things, etc. However, the ped wants us to see one here in Northern VA that is affiliated with NIH and also specilaizes in not just psych issues but also understands metabolic/mito issues and will work with the ped. Dr, Kelley and the other drugs jake takes. It is clearly a struggle. Also we can clearly tell when Jakes med wears off and starts, He does take clondine and melatonin at nite to help him sleep

Cole, is also add, and takes 18 mg in the am and melatonin at nite. With cole it is mainly attnetion issues for him, but he also can get very very angry and tantrums , especially at home.

Clay, has his own issues but for some reason concerta which works wonders for the other 2 boys actually made clay so tired, etc. He was like in a zombie state - scary. He has a hard time sitting still and constantly talking and so on. When we see Dr. Kelley in the next month or so we will work to see if there is something that can help him.

But with all 3 boys ams and evenings often are very difficult. The boys just did get off a month of punishment as they had gotten so out of control, no bikes, roller blades, video games, tv in rooms, etc. Basically they could read, play board games, color, homework, etc. If they were good they would get rewarded with being able to go outside, etc. This has helped alot, and I have still kept some clear limits, no TV at bedtime, and so on. But they boys like to fight and I can clearly understand your frustration. I n addition to taking Jake to see a psych (as we are worried about depression or bi=polar) I am waiting to see a behavorist who mainly works with parents.

hugsSharonI ran the Marine corps marathon on 10-31-04 and I am ran the Las Vegas Marathon half marathon in 2:30 on 1-30-05 - If you believe you can do it -- YOU CAN!!! and mom to 3 wonderful boys twins now 8 Cole (ADD) & Clay (mito, pdd, learning issues, crohns, etc) and Jake now 12 - OMG (mito, chrons, severe add, kidney stones, etc)

Re: Digest Number 3132, kids with behaivor issues.

Our 8 yr old get like this at times, now less than before as her meds were changed. With her we would put her in her room when she got out of control.At tiems she would trash the room adn make it a big mess.She had to clean it up herself and lost out on playing with her frends around the corner which are at this time about 4-5 years older than her.They play with her and make her feel good. Now does not trash her room. I have bean bags she can throw at her door when she is upset, theraputty, blow straw she chews than she falls asleep.

Our 5 ur old on the other hand if we put him on his bed, he throws things, he gets right back out of it, I have closed him in hisroom and he gets into things that are not safe as he is autitistic and dev delay etc.

So what works for one child does nto always work for hte other.For we spoke iwth a behavior therapist who siad ot write down what happend before his meltdown, how we dealt with it adn what happend after consequences.He than suggested to substitute bad behavior with something child can do. Example: You cannot jump on couch but you can jump on trampoline, you cannot hit mommy but you cqn punch on the punching bag, you can not bite sissy but you can bite this nice cold teething ring. Make sure you let the child know what they are doing is wrong adn substitute it with acceptable behavior .We do that plus rewards. If you do not behave you lose an hour of computer time.he loves the computer so he tires but we still have behavior issues.IT is nto all going to go away overnight. Some behavior issues are caused due to sensory.We increased sensory excercises to every three hours and sensory behavior issues have lessen.

Migdalia (DEE)Please contact mito-owner with any problems or questions.