Guest guest Posted April 26, 2005 Report Share Posted April 26, 2005 I want to thank you all for your prayers during what has been the most trying and exhausting week of my life. Maddie was released from the hospital on Sunday, after a 9 day stay. The child we brought home is so very different from the child who was with us before. She is very weak, seems disoriented, although can weakly answer questions with one word. She is unable to support herself, and can barely move her limbs (although it seems she gets a little more strength in that regard daily.) She is now on oxygen 24/7 because she can't keep her saturation level up. I am still confused about what happened to her, and haven't received any of the reports yet to try to put things together. The hospital experience itself was frustrating because nobody here seems to know what to do for Maddie, and she isn't a "typical" child. Maddie was sick with a chest cold (a very bad one) the week before she was hospitalized. She had been coughing day and night nonstop for at least 3 days. She had become very lethargic, and when I took her to her Ped. the Thurs. before she was hospitalized, her ped. just gave her Zithromax to prevent a bacterial infection, as Maddie had spiked a fever the night before. She didn't hear anything in her lungs. The next day I was giving her a drink of water and she just seemed to collapse- she turned gray and I called 911. By the time the paramedics had arrived she was somewhat more alert, and they gave her blow-by oxygen. Her pulse rate was 159, and the recommended taking her to the hospital. After observing her for an hour we took her in, and they started IV fluids and took a chest x-ray. The x-ray showed that her heart and lungs were enlarged, and her left lung was partially collapsed. Her C02 level at that time was 60. (Normal person is about 40 or so.) After doing an echo of her heart they discovered some thickening, but the cardiologist said it was not attributed to the virus. This was new information to us, and something we need to have looked at further once she is better. She was monitored and given blow-by o2 Friday night, but by Saturday she was on Bi-pap, and by Saturday night they put her on a ventilator because she just wasn't able to move the Co2 out of her sytem. She was given Fentanyl and Versed while intubated, and I'm not sure if those drugs can have any long-term effects on someone with mito. The removed the vent on Tuesday, and it took her several days to regulate her breathing. (She is still breathing somewhat rapidly) She was on large amounts of blow-by 02 the entire time. Her C02 levels remained very elevated, but she was somewhat alert and able to eat- she is still starving. They gave her nothing the first day she was there, although my husband and I adamantly asked them to give her something via her IV. After consulting with one of the mito docs here (who really knows nothing about Maddie) the finally began giving her lipids, then placed an NG tube while she was intubated and gave her kindercal. After she was extubated they gave her NOTHING but dextrose IV for 2 DAYS, despite our pleading that she needed to have SOMETHING. Once she began eating orally she hasn't stopped, and I thank God that she is still able to do that. Drinking is another story, and while she will drink some, I'm having to syringe her fluids again. We were apprehensive about bringing her home in this condition- we have gone from having an ambulatory, speaking (in her own way) child to one who is completely dependent on us, not the same neurologically, and is extremely fatigued. I'm hoping it is fatigue, after all that her little body has been through the past 2 weeks. I'm trying to mentally prepare myself for it not being fatigue, we have ordered a pediatric wheelchair- just something simple for now, and if we need something long-term, we'll cross that bridge when we get there I guess. It is just heartbreaking for me to see her like this, after she has worked so hard these past 6 years to acquire the skills she did have, just to have them wiped out in a matter of days. Have any of you had any similar experiences as this, whether the outcome was good or bad, I really need some input as to what we may need to expect. How long should I give her to try to get back to her normal baseline before beginning all of the testing that needs to be done (sleep study, swallow study, GI, etc.) I guess my biggest question (that will only be answered with time) is, is what we are seeing effects from illness and mito, the extremely high co2 levels, or possibly side effects from the medications she was given...? The pulmonologist has tentatively gone over many things with us that we may need to look into, including a trach. We will probably have a g-tube placed once she is well enough. Any info on the heart issues is appreciated. When she was discharged her x-ray looked good, but the thickening is probably due to the mito. Sorry this is so long, I just needed to let it out in order for what has happened to become a little more real to me. For the first time I realistically was able to see that this disease may very well take her from us- something I have been in denial about for 6 years. You all are the experts in my opinion, and any insight you may have is much appreciated. If I've missed anything please ask me questions- the more I can try to put together with your help the better. Once again, thank you for your prayers....please continue to pray for Maddie. Holly Rubio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2005 Report Share Posted April 26, 2005 Holly- You are all in my prayers. You must be exhausted. Try to get some rest. I know easier said then done, but maybe then things may seem a little clearer. Geri-Anne and Wyatt, Complex I caringbridge.org/mn/wyattc -- In Mito , " Holly Rubio " <hrubio6@m...> wrote: > I want to thank you all for your prayers during what has been the most trying and exhausting week of my life. Maddie was released from the hospital on Sunday, after a 9 day stay. The child we brought home is so very different from the child who was with us before. She is very weak, seems disoriented, although can weakly answer questions with one word. She is unable to support herself, and can barely move her limbs (although it seems she gets a little more strength in that regard daily.) She is now on oxygen 24/7 because she can't keep her saturation level up. I am still confused about what happened to her, and haven't received any of the reports yet to try to put things together. The hospital experience itself was frustrating because nobody here seems to know what to do for Maddie, and she isn't a " typical " child. > > Maddie was sick with a chest cold (a very bad one) the week before she was hospitalized. She had been coughing day and night nonstop for at least 3 days. She had become very lethargic, and when I took her to her Ped. the Thurs. before she was hospitalized, her ped. just gave her Zithromax to prevent a bacterial infection, as Maddie had spiked a fever the night before. She didn't hear anything in her lungs. The next day I was giving her a drink of water and she just seemed to collapse- she turned gray and I called 911. By the time the paramedics had arrived she was somewhat more alert, and they gave her blow-by oxygen. Her pulse rate was 159, and the recommended taking her to the hospital. After observing her for an hour we took her in, and they started IV fluids and took a chest x-ray. The x-ray showed that her heart and lungs were enlarged, and her left lung was partially collapsed. Her C02 level at that time was 60. (Normal person is about 40 or so.) After doing an echo of her heart they discovered some thickening, but the cardiologist said it was not attributed to the virus. This was new information to us, and something we need to have looked at further once she is better. She was monitored and given blow-by o2 Friday night, but by Saturday she was on Bi-pap, and by Saturday night they put her on a ventilator because she just wasn't able to move the Co2 out of her sytem. She was given Fentanyl and Versed while intubated, and I'm not sure if those drugs can have any long-term effects on someone with mito. The removed the vent on Tuesday, and it took her several days to regulate her breathing. (She is still breathing somewhat rapidly) She was on large amounts of blow-by 02 the entire time. Her C02 levels remained very elevated, but she was somewhat alert and able to eat- she is still starving. They gave her nothing the first day she was there, although my husband and I adamantly asked them to give her something via her IV. After consulting with one of the mito docs here (who really knows nothing about Maddie) the finally began giving her lipids, then placed an NG tube while she was intubated and gave her kindercal. After she was extubated they gave her NOTHING but dextrose IV for 2 DAYS, despite our pleading that she needed to have SOMETHING. Once she began eating orally she hasn't stopped, and I thank God that she is still able to do that. Drinking is another story, and while she will drink some, I'm having to syringe her fluids again. > > We were apprehensive about bringing her home in this condition- we have gone from having an ambulatory, speaking (in her own way) child to one who is completely dependent on us, not the same neurologically, and is extremely fatigued. I'm hoping it is fatigue, after all that her little body has been through the past 2 weeks. I'm trying to mentally prepare myself for it not being fatigue, we have ordered a pediatric wheelchair- just something simple for now, and if we need something long-term, we'll cross that bridge when we get there I guess. It is just heartbreaking for me to see her like this, after she has worked so hard these past 6 years to acquire the skills she did have, just to have them wiped out in a matter of days. Have any of you had any similar experiences as this, whether the outcome was good or bad, I really need some input as to what we may need to expect. How long should I give her to try to get back to her normal baseline before beginning all of the testing that needs to be done (sleep study, swallow study, GI, etc.) I guess my biggest question (that will only be answered with time) is, is what we are seeing effects from illness and mito, the extremely high co2 levels, or possibly side effects from the medications she was given...? The pulmonologist has tentatively gone over many things with us that we may need to look into, including a trach. We will probably have a g-tube placed once she is well enough. Any info on the heart issues is appreciated. When she was discharged her x-ray looked good, but the thickening is probably due to the mito. > > Sorry this is so long, I just needed to let it out in order for what has happened to become a little more real to me. For the first time I realistically was able to see that this disease may very well take her from us- something I have been in denial about for 6 years. You all are the experts in my opinion, and any insight you may have is much appreciated. If I've missed anything please ask me questions- the more I can try to put together with your help the better. Once again, thank you for your prayers....please continue to pray for Maddie. > > Holly Rubio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2005 Report Share Posted April 26, 2005 Oh Holly, what a nightmare youve all been through! Im so sorry she took such a dive, I hope the effects your seeing now are a result of the meds and CO2 levels and will continue to improve... I know after s biggest crash, it took him a while to bounce back, but after being home a few weeks and getting real rest (they cant really rest in hospital) he did slowly return to the boy i had before he got sick... i hope Maddie does too. I dont know much about the things you talked about, so I dont have much advice, but i wanted to offer (((hugs))) and let you know Maddie is in our prayers! Keely, mom to (complex 1) and Tyler (so far so good) > I want to thank you all for your prayers during what has been the most trying and exhausting week of my life. Maddie was released from the hospital on Sunday, after a 9 day stay. The child we brought home is so very different from the child who was with us before. She is very weak, seems disoriented, although can weakly answer questions with one word. She is unable to support herself, and can barely move her limbs (although it seems she gets a little more strength in that regard daily.) She is now on oxygen 24/7 because she can't keep her saturation level up. I am still confused about what happened to her, and haven't received any of the reports yet to try to put things together. The hospital experience itself was frustrating because nobody here seems to know what to do for Maddie, and she isn't a " typical " child. > > Maddie was sick with a chest cold (a very bad one) the week before she was hospitalized. She had been coughing day and night nonstop for at least 3 days. She had become very lethargic, and when I took her to her Ped. the Thurs. before she was hospitalized, her ped. just gave her Zithromax to prevent a bacterial infection, as Maddie had spiked a fever the night before. She didn't hear anything in her lungs. The next day I was giving her a drink of water and she just seemed to collapse- she turned gray and I called 911. By the time the paramedics had arrived she was somewhat more alert, and they gave her blow-by oxygen. Her pulse rate was 159, and the recommended taking her to the hospital. After observing her for an hour we took her in, and they started IV fluids and took a chest x- ray. The x-ray showed that her heart and lungs were enlarged, and her left lung was partially collapsed. Her C02 level at that time was 60. (Normal person is about 40 or so.) After doing an echo of her heart they discovered some thickening, but the cardiologist said it was not attributed to the virus. This was new information to us, and something we need to have looked at further once she is better. She was monitored and given blow-by o2 Friday night, but by Saturday she was on Bi-pap, and by Saturday night they put her on a ventilator because she just wasn't able to move the Co2 out of her sytem. She was given Fentanyl and Versed while intubated, and I'm not sure if those drugs can have any long-term effects on someone with mito. The removed the vent on Tuesday, and it took her several days to regulate her breathing. (She is still breathing somewhat rapidly) She was on large amounts of blow-by 02 the entire time. Her C02 levels remained very elevated, but she was somewhat alert and able to eat- she is still starving. They gave her nothing the first day she was there, although my husband and I adamantly asked them to give her something via her IV. After consulting with one of the mito docs here (who really knows nothing about Maddie) the finally began giving her lipids, then placed an NG tube while she was intubated and gave her kindercal. After she was extubated they gave her NOTHING but dextrose IV for 2 DAYS, despite our pleading that she needed to have SOMETHING. Once she began eating orally she hasn't stopped, and I thank God that she is still able to do that. Drinking is another story, and while she will drink some, I'm having to syringe her fluids again. > > We were apprehensive about bringing her home in this condition- we have gone from having an ambulatory, speaking (in her own way) child to one who is completely dependent on us, not the same neurologically, and is extremely fatigued. I'm hoping it is fatigue, after all that her little body has been through the past 2 weeks. I'm trying to mentally prepare myself for it not being fatigue, we have ordered a pediatric wheelchair- just something simple for now, and if we need something long-term, we'll cross that bridge when we get there I guess. It is just heartbreaking for me to see her like this, after she has worked so hard these past 6 years to acquire the skills she did have, just to have them wiped out in a matter of days. Have any of you had any similar experiences as this, whether the outcome was good or bad, I really need some input as to what we may need to expect. How long should I give her to try to get back to her normal baseline before beginning all of the testing that needs to be done (sleep study, swallow study, GI, etc.) I guess my biggest question (that will only be answered with time) is, is what we are seeing effects from illness and mito, the extremely high co2 levels, or possibly side effects from the medications she was given...? The pulmonologist has tentatively gone over many things with us that we may need to look into, including a trach. We will probably have a g-tube placed once she is well enough. Any info on the heart issues is appreciated. When she was discharged her x-ray looked good, but the thickening is probably due to the mito. > > Sorry this is so long, I just needed to let it out in order for what has happened to become a little more real to me. For the first time I realistically was able to see that this disease may very well take her from us- something I have been in denial about for 6 years. You all are the experts in my opinion, and any insight you may have is much appreciated. If I've missed anything please ask me questions- the more I can try to put together with your help the better. Once again, thank you for your prayers....please continue to pray for Maddie. > > Holly Rubio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2005 Report Share Posted April 26, 2005 Dear Hollie, I am so sorry and I will pray. I know how horrible it is to watch your child lose so much and become a different child completely. I went through it twice and never came home from the hospital when things got that bad. I am very glad Maddie was able to come home and I am praying that is is a matter of time for good recovery. I do not have any advice to offer except that I hate this evil disease so much and it breaks my heart so much to see what it does to our children.I just want to offer my support and prayers even though I have little energy to give these days because I have a double broken heart. May God grant you strength and healing. Suhad Haddad -- Mom to Samya (Died 12-10-02 of Leigh's Synd.) & Leanna (died 3-20-05) Samya's Memorial Site: www.samyahaddad.com/.org/.net Email: Suhad1970@... Alt Email: Suhad@... AiM Chat: Suhad1970 From: Mito [mailto:Mito ] On Behalf Of Holly Rubio Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2005 10:34 AM To: Mito; mito Subject: Maddie update (very long) I want to thank you all for your prayers during what has been the most trying and exhausting week of my life. Maddie was released from the hospital on Sunday, after a 9 day stay. The child we brought home is so very different from the child who was with us before. She is very weak, seems disoriented, although can weakly answer questions with one word. She is unable to support herself, and can barely move her limbs (although it seems she gets a little more strength in that regard daily.) She is now on oxygen 24/7 because she can't keep her saturation level up. I am still confused about what happened to her, and haven't received any of the reports yet to try to put things together. The hospital experience itself was frustrating because nobody here seems to know what to do for Maddie, and she isn't a " typical " child. Maddie was sick with a chest cold (a very bad one) the week before she was hospitalized. She had been coughing day and night nonstop for at least 3 days. She had become very lethargic, and when I took her to her Ped. the Thurs. before she was hospitalized, her ped. just gave her Zithromax to prevent a bacterial infection, as Maddie had spiked a fever the night before. She didn't hear anything in her lungs. The next day I was giving her a drink of water and she just seemed to collapse- she turned gray and I called 911. By the time the paramedics had arrived she was somewhat more alert, and they gave her blow-by oxygen. Her pulse rate was 159, and the recommended taking her to the hospital. After observing her for an hour we took her in, and they started IV fluids and took a chest x-ray. The x-ray showed that her heart and lungs were enlarged, and her left lung was partially collapsed. Her C02 level at that time was 60. (Normal person is about 40 or so.) After doing an echo of her heart they discovered some thickening, but the cardiologist said it was not attributed to the virus. This was new information to us, and something we need to have looked at further once she is better. She was monitored and given blow-by o2 Friday night, but by Saturday she was on Bi-pap, and by Saturday night they put her on a ventilator because she just wasn't able to move the Co2 out of her sytem. She was given Fentanyl and Versed while intubated, and I'm not sure if those drugs can have any long-term effects on someone with mito. The removed the vent on Tuesday, and it took her several days to regulate her breathing. (She is still breathing somewhat rapidly) She was on large amounts of blow-by 02 the entire time. Her C02 levels remained very elevated, but she was somewhat alert and able to eat- she is still starving. They gave her nothing the first day she was there, although my husband and I adamantly asked them to give her something via her IV. After consulting with one of the mito docs here (who really knows nothing about Maddie) the finally began giving her lipids, then placed an NG tube while she was intubated and gave her kindercal. After she was extubated they gave her NOTHING but dextrose IV for 2 DAYS, despite our pleading that she needed to have SOMETHING. Once she began eating orally she hasn't stopped, and I thank God that she is still able to do that. Drinking is another story, and while she will drink some, I'm having to syringe her fluids again. We were apprehensive about bringing her home in this condition- we have gone from having an ambulatory, speaking (in her own way) child to one who is completely dependent on us, not the same neurologically, and is extremely fatigued. I'm hoping it is fatigue, after all that her little body has been through the past 2 weeks. I'm trying to mentally prepare myself for it not being fatigue, we have ordered a pediatric wheelchair- just something simple for now, and if we need something long-term, we'll cross that bridge when we get there I guess. It is just heartbreaking for me to see her like this, after she has worked so hard these past 6 years to acquire the skills she did have, just to have them wiped out in a matter of days. Have any of you had any similar experiences as this, whether the outcome was good or bad, I really need some input as to what we may need to expect. How long should I give her to try to get back to her normal baseline before beginning all of the testing that needs to be done (sleep study, swallow study, GI, etc.) I guess my biggest question (that will only be answered with time) is, is what we are seeing effects from illness and mito, the extremely high co2 levels, or possibly side effects from the medications she was given...? The pulmonologist has tentatively gone over many things with us that we may need to look into, including a trach. We will probably have a g-tube placed once she is well enough. Any info on the heart issues is appreciated. When she was discharged her x-ray looked good, but the thickening is probably due to the mito. Sorry this is so long, I just needed to let it out in order for what has happened to become a little more real to me. For the first time I realistically was able to see that this disease may very well take her from us- something I have been in denial about for 6 years. You all are the experts in my opinion, and any insight you may have is much appreciated. If I've missed anything please ask me questions- the more I can try to put together with your help the better. Once again, thank you for your prayers....please continue to pray for Maddie. Holly Rubio Please contact mito-owner with any problems or questions. 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Guest guest Posted April 26, 2005 Report Share Posted April 26, 2005 I really don't have any good advice, sorry. Just wanted to let you know I am praying for a full recovery for Maddie. With MSN Hotmail, you get powerful spam filters and enhanced virus scanning cleaning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2005 Report Share Posted April 26, 2005 Holly I am glad to hear you and Maddie are home. Reading your note is like looking into a mirror. We went through this with Max last September. And yes, since last October she is the proud owner of a powerchair. We had to adjust to what we like to refer to as a new kind of normal. Max got a bi-pap and a pulse oximeter as well as an oxygen concentrator upon release from the hospital. Next month she will go on a vent. During the day we will try non-invasive IPPV (Dr. Bach's method). They talked about an trach and we are hoping we will have some time .... Her heart rate is all over the map, for lack of better term. she has brady as well as tachycardia. No one seems to know and understand why her body does the things it does and when. Currently we are also using a bi-pap mid day for about an hour. It does help. You may want to try that. Max has a 50 foot cord attached to the oxygen concentrator which allows her to move about the house freely. I hope Maddie will continue to improve. It will take time. She has been through a lot. Hang in there. Our best wishes for all of you rosy, mom to max , nearly 6 It truly took Max months to come back to nearly where she was prior to her illness. Her energy spurts are short lived. She tires soooo easily now. She looks a lot better. She does great compared to September/Ocotber last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 26, 2005 Report Share Posted April 26, 2005 I am sorry to hear how badly Maddie has been doing. I am sure it is nice to be coming home and yet it is hard having her not the same as before. I can understand what you are going through somewhat as we went through several experiences in the past similar to what is happening with Maddie. When Asenath had a stroke paralyzing her entire left side we wondered if she would ever be able to sit up alone again, speak normally again, walk, use her left arm/hand, etc. We were fortunate that with lots of hard work and time she was able to regain most of the use of her body. We also have went through the same experience with Zipporrah (to a lesser degree) a couple times and Asenath many times where she would have major set backs and each time we wondered if this would be the time she wouldn't regain things. She is cognitively delayed and has different issues from the strokes as does Zipporrah, but we have felt blessed that they are doing as well as they are concerning what they have been through and what we could be dealing with. My heart goes out to you and your daughter and I hope and pray that she too will regain what she has lost in time. Please keep us updated as to how she is doing. Thank you for sharing. See www.caringbridge.org/ia/mitomomof9 and www.heartbeatsformito.org (a photo look into Mito) Darla: mommy to Asenath (5) Probable Mito, CNS Vasculitis, strokes, migraines, seizures, G-tube, hypotonicity, disautonomia, SID, global delays, cyclic vomiting, bladder issues, some wheelchair use, eye issues, gastric emptying issues... Zipporrah (18 months) Probable Mito, strokes, neuro-motor planning, SID, GERD, dysphasia, G-tube fed, speech delays, extreme fatigue, aberrant subclavian artery, disautonomia, hypertonicity, migraines, possible seizures, dumping syndrome, iron deficiency... Luke (16) migraines, sensory issues, & some evidence of SLE's... Leah (14), Rachael (13), Isaac (11), Tirzah (8), Kezia (4), Marquis (3) Joey (16 months) with hydrocephalus, dysgenesis of the corpus callosum, encephalomalacia & leukomalacia, G-tube, GERD, immobile, severe dev. delays, left hemiplegia (arm)... (16 months) SID, dev. delays, right hemiparesis issues... Maddie update (very long) I want to thank you all for your prayers during what has been the most trying and exhausting week of my life. Maddie was released from the hospital on Sunday, after a 9 day stay. The child we brought home is so very different from the child who was with us before. She is very weak, seems disoriented, although can weakly answer questions with one word. She is unable to support herself, and can barely move her limbs (although it seems she gets a little more strength in that regard daily.) She is now on oxygen 24/7 because she can't keep her saturation level up. I am still confused about what happened to her, and haven't received any of the reports yet to try to put things together. The hospital experience itself was frustrating because nobody here seems to know what to do for Maddie, and she isn't a " typical " child. Maddie was sick with a chest cold (a very bad one) the week before she was hospitalized. She had been coughing day and night nonstop for at least 3 days. She had become very lethargic, and when I took her to her Ped. the Thurs. before she was hospitalized, her ped. just gave her Zithromax to prevent a bacterial infection, as Maddie had spiked a fever the night before. She didn't hear anything in her lungs. The next day I was giving her a drink of water and she just seemed to collapse- she turned gray and I called 911. By the time the paramedics had arrived she was somewhat more alert, and they gave her blow-by oxygen. Her pulse rate was 159, and the recommended taking her to the hospital. After observing her for an hour we took her in, and they started IV fluids and took a chest x-ray. The x-ray showed that her heart and lungs were enlarged, and her left lung was partially collapsed. Her C02 level at that time was 60. (Normal person is about 40 or so.) After doing an echo of her heart they discovered some thickening, but the cardiologist said it was not attributed to the virus. This was new information to us, and something we need to have looked at further once she is better. She was monitored and given blow-by o2 Friday night, but by Saturday she was on Bi-pap, and by Saturday night they put her on a ventilator because she just wasn't able to move the Co2 out of her sytem. She was given Fentanyl and Versed while intubated, and I'm not sure if those drugs can have any long-term effects on someone with mito. The removed the vent on Tuesday, and it took her several days to regulate her breathing. (She is still breathing somewhat rapidly) She was on large amounts of blow-by 02 the entire time. Her C02 levels remained very elevated, but she was somewhat alert and able to eat- she is still starving. They gave her nothing the first day she was there, although my husband and I adamantly asked them to give her something via her IV. After consulting with one of the mito docs here (who really knows nothing about Maddie) the finally began giving her lipids, then placed an NG tube while she was intubated and gave her kindercal. After she was extubated they gave her NOTHING but dextrose IV for 2 DAYS, despite our pleading that she needed to have SOMETHING. Once she began eating orally she hasn't stopped, and I thank God that she is still able to do that. Drinking is another story, and while she will drink some, I'm having to syringe her fluids again. We were apprehensive about bringing her home in this condition- we have gone from having an ambulatory, speaking (in her own way) child to one who is completely dependent on us, not the same neurologically, and is extremely fatigued. I'm hoping it is fatigue, after all that her little body has been through the past 2 weeks. I'm trying to mentally prepare myself for it not being fatigue, we have ordered a pediatric wheelchair- just something simple for now, and if we need something long-term, we'll cross that bridge when we get there I guess. It is just heartbreaking for me to see her like this, after she has worked so hard these past 6 years to acquire the skills she did have, just to have them wiped out in a matter of days. Have any of you had any similar experiences as this, whether the outcome was good or bad, I really need some input as to what we may need to expect. How long should I give her to try to get back to her normal baseline before beginning all of the testing that needs to be done (sleep study, swallow study, GI, etc.) I guess my biggest question (that will only be answered with time) is, is what we are seeing effects from illness and mito, the extremely high co2 levels, or possibly side effects from the medications she was given...? The pulmonologist has tentatively gone over many things with us that we may need to look into, including a trach. We will probably have a g-tube placed once she is well enough. Any info on the heart issues is appreciated. When she was discharged her x-ray looked good, but the thickening is probably due to the mito. Sorry this is so long, I just needed to let it out in order for what has happened to become a little more real to me. For the first time I realistically was able to see that this disease may very well take her from us- something I have been in denial about for 6 years. You all are the experts in my opinion, and any insight you may have is much appreciated. If I've missed anything please ask me questions- the more I can try to put together with your help the better. Once again, thank you for your prayers....please continue to pray for Maddie. Holly Rubio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2005 Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 Holly, I have no great words of wisdom. I just wanted to let you know that Maddie is in our prayers . I hope the fatigue is just that,,and nothing more. I am so sorry to hear about your long horrible ordeal. BTW,,how old is Maddie ?Kim mom to Meaghan 15 ~~Katelyn 12 Bipolar,and OCD ~~ Logan 7 Autism,congenital myopathy,possible mitochondrial disease,and JRA ~~ and Ethan 5 and 100 % BOY__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2005 Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 Dear Holly, My 10 yr. old daughter, Nichole, has NARP mito with the T8993G mutation. Your expereince with Maddy has also happened to Nichole before except without the oxygen. Sometimes it has taken as long aS 6 months for nichole to even sit up again after she has had a major regression. The eatting is always difficult to regain again as well especially the liquids. We just don't push Nichole when she has a regression. We just make sure we give her excercises that we administer ourselves. The rest will just take a long time and I know what you mean by her not seeming like the same person. Just remember she has been through so much mentally and physically. Best of luck with her recovery, Kim > I want to thank you all for your prayers during what has been the most trying and exhausting week of my life. Maddie was released from the hospital on Sunday, after a 9 day stay. The child we brought home is so very different from the child who was with us before. She is very weak, seems disoriented, although can weakly answer questions with one word. She is unable to support herself, and can barely move her limbs (although it seems she gets a little more strength in that regard daily.) She is now on oxygen 24/7 because she can't keep her saturation level up. I am still confused about what happened to her, and haven't received any of the reports yet to try to put things together. The hospital experience itself was frustrating because nobody here seems to know what to do for Maddie, and she isn't a " typical " child. > > Maddie was sick with a chest cold (a very bad one) the week before she was hospitalized. She had been coughing day and night nonstop for at least 3 days. She had become very lethargic, and when I took her to her Ped. the Thurs. before she was hospitalized, her ped. just gave her Zithromax to prevent a bacterial infection, as Maddie had spiked a fever the night before. She didn't hear anything in her lungs. The next day I was giving her a drink of water and she just seemed to collapse- she turned gray and I called 911. By the time the paramedics had arrived she was somewhat more alert, and they gave her blow-by oxygen. Her pulse rate was 159, and the recommended taking her to the hospital. After observing her for an hour we took her in, and they started IV fluids and took a chest x-ray. The x-ray showed that her heart and lungs were enlarged, and her left lung was partially collapsed. Her C02 level at that time was 60. (Normal person is about 40 or so.) After doing an echo of her heart they discovered some thickening, but the cardiologist said it was not attributed to the virus. This was new information to us, and something we need to have looked at further once she is better. She was monitored and given blow-by o2 Friday night, but by Saturday she was on Bi-pap, and by Saturday night they put her on a ventilator because she just wasn't able to move the Co2 out of her sytem. She was given Fentanyl and Versed while intubated, and I'm not sure if those drugs can have any long-term effects on someone with mito. The removed the vent on Tuesday, and it took her several days to regulate her breathing. (She is still breathing somewhat rapidly) She was on large amounts of blow-by 02 the entire time. Her C02 levels remained very elevated, but she was somewhat alert and able to eat- she is still starving. They gave her nothing the first day she was there, although my husband and I adamantly asked them to give her something via her IV. After consulting with one of the mito docs here (who really knows nothing about Maddie) the finally began giving her lipids, then placed an NG tube while she was intubated and gave her kindercal. After she was extubated they gave her NOTHING but dextrose IV for 2 DAYS, despite our pleading that she needed to have SOMETHING. Once she began eating orally she hasn't stopped, and I thank God that she is still able to do that. Drinking is another story, and while she will drink some, I'm having to syringe her fluids again. > > We were apprehensive about bringing her home in this condition- we have gone from having an ambulatory, speaking (in her own way) child to one who is completely dependent on us, not the same neurologically, and is extremely fatigued. I'm hoping it is fatigue, after all that her little body has been through the past 2 weeks. I'm trying to mentally prepare myself for it not being fatigue, we have ordered a pediatric wheelchair- just something simple for now, and if we need something long-term, we'll cross that bridge when we get there I guess. It is just heartbreaking for me to see her like this, after she has worked so hard these past 6 years to acquire the skills she did have, just to have them wiped out in a matter of days. Have any of you had any similar experiences as this, whether the outcome was good or bad, I really need some input as to what we may need to expect. How long should I give her to try to get back to her normal baseline before beginning all of the testing that needs to be done (sleep study, swallow study, GI, etc.) I guess my biggest question (that will only be answered with time) is, is what we are seeing effects from illness and mito, the extremely high co2 levels, or possibly side effects from the medications she was given...? The pulmonologist has tentatively gone over many things with us that we may need to look into, including a trach. We will probably have a g- tube placed once she is well enough. Any info on the heart issues is appreciated. When she was discharged her x-ray looked good, but the thickening is probably due to the mito. > > Sorry this is so long, I just needed to let it out in order for what has happened to become a little more real to me. For the first time I realistically was able to see that this disease may very well take her from us- something I have been in denial about for 6 years. You all are the experts in my opinion, and any insight you may have is much appreciated. If I've missed anything please ask me questions- the more I can try to put together with your help the better. Once again, thank you for your prayers....please continue to pray for Maddie. > > Holly Rubio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2005 Report Share Posted April 27, 2005 Holly, I am so happy to hear Maddie is home from the hospital, though she is weak and not as she was before she became so ill, she is still at home and that is so much better than the hospital. Hopefully, just being home will make the world of difference in her recovery. It is good tho hear her appetite is back and she is eating on her own. Please know that we continue to pray for Maddie and all of the others on the list that are having such problems lately. Kathy, grandma to Audrey, 3 yearsHolly Rubio wrote: I want to thank you all for your prayers during what has been the most trying and exhausting week of my life. Maddie was released from the hospital on Sunday, after a 9 day stay. The child we brought home is so very different from the child who was with us before. She is very weak, seems disoriented, although can weakly answer questions with one word. She is unable to support herself, and can barely move her limbs (although it seems she gets a little more strength in that regard daily.) She is now on oxygen 24/7 because she can't keep her saturation level up. I am still confused about what happened to her, and haven't received any of the reports yet to try to put things together. The hospital experience itself was frustrating because nobody here seems to know what to do for Maddie, and she isn't a "typical" child. Maddie was sick with a chest cold (a very bad one) the week before she was hospitalized. She had been coughing day and night nonstop for at least 3 days. She had become very lethargic, and when I took her to her Ped. the Thurs. before she was hospitalized, her ped. just gave her Zithromax to prevent a bacterial infection, as Maddie had spiked a fever the night before. She didn't hear anything in her lungs. The next day I was giving her a drink of water and she just seemed to collapse- she turned gray and I called 911. By the time the paramedics had arrived she was somewhat more alert, and they gave her blow-by oxygen. Her pulse rate was 159, and the recommended taking her to the hospital. After observing her for an hour we took her in, and they started IV fluids and took a chest x-ray. The x-ray showed that her heart and lungs were enlarged, and her left lung was partially collapsed. Her C02 level at that time was 60. (Normal person is about 40 or so.) After doing an echo of her heart they discovered some thickening, but the cardiologist said it was not attributed to the virus. This was new information to us, and something we need to have looked at further once she is better. She was monitored and given blow-by o2 Friday night, but by Saturday she was on Bi-pap, and by Saturday night they put her on a ventilator because she just wasn't able to move the Co2 out of her sytem. She was given Fentanyl and Versed while intubated, and I'm not sure if those drugs can have any long-term effects on someone with mito. The removed the vent on Tuesday, and it took her several days to regulate her breathing. (She is still breathing somewhat rapidly) She was on large amounts of blow-by 02 the entire time. Her C02 levels remained very elevated, but she was somewhat alert and able to eat- she is still starving. They gave her nothing the first day she was there, although my husband and I adamantly asked them to give her something via her IV. After consulting with one of the mito docs here (who really knows nothing about Maddie) the finally began giving her lipids, then placed an NG tube while she was intubated and gave her kindercal. After she was extubated they gave her NOTHING but dextrose IV for 2 DAYS, despite our pleading that she needed to have SOMETHING. Once she began eating orally she hasn't stopped, and I thank God that she is still able to do that. Drinking is another story, and while she will drink some, I'm having to syringe her fluids again. We were apprehensive about bringing her home in this condition- we have gone from having an ambulatory, speaking (in her own way) child to one who is completely dependent on us, not the same neurologically, and is extremely fatigued. I'm hoping it is fatigue, after all that her little body has been through the past 2 weeks. I'm trying to mentally prepare myself for it not being fatigue, we have ordered a pediatric wheelchair- just something simple for now, and if we need something long-term, we'll cross that bridge when we get there I guess. It is just heartbreaking for me to see her like this, after she has worked so hard these past 6 years to acquire the skills she did have, just to have them wiped out in a matter of days. Have any of you had any similar experiences as this, whether the outcome was good or bad, I really need some input as to what we may need to expect. How long should I give her to try to get back to her normal baseline before beginning all of the testing that needs to be done (sleep study, swallow study, GI, etc.) I guess my biggest question (that will only be answered with time) is, is what we are seeing effects from illness and mito, the extremely high co2 levels, or possibly side effects from the medications she was given...? The pulmonologist has tentatively gone over many things with us that we may need to look into, including a trach. We will probably have a g-tube placed once she is well enough. Any info on the heart issues is appreciated. When she was discharged her x-ray looked good, but the thickening is probably due to the mito. Sorry this is so long, I just needed to let it out in order for what has happened to become a little more real to me. For the first time I realistically was able to see that this disease may very well take her from us- something I have been in denial about for 6 years. You all are the experts in my opinion, and any insight you may have is much appreciated. If I've missed anything please ask me questions- the more I can try to put together with your help the better. Once again, thank you for your prayers....please continue to pray for Maddie. Holly RubioPlease contact mito-owner with any problems or questions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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