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Hi all!

I have some questions about ECI & development. I have met with them

twice this week and I am really confused. So far my son is

developing " normally " and reaching milestones..he can hold his head

up steady, push up when on belly etc. They told me that even though

everything was OK now it would still be good to be in the program

just in case he has any delays in the future. I have read alot of

the posts and many of you have mentioned that your kids didn't reach

milestones on time (walking, talking, soft spot closure). Does

anyone have a kid with RSS that didn't have delays? Also, anyone who

would like to share expierences with ECI...that would be great.

The nurse that came out and did the eval said that his pediatrician

put " failure to thrive " on the referral. No one has mentioned this

to me before so I really don't know what that means..his doc has

been telling me that he is gaining ok, just slowly. Most RSS/SGA

babies are below the 5th percentile right? When the nurse plotted

his growth on her chart he is below 5th on height and below 5th on

weight but his height to weight ratio is 75th percentile!! Can that

be right?

At our 4 month check up his pedi mentioned that Isaac would be a

candidate for GHT..how old are the kids when they start this?

I apologize for the long post..thanks in advance for any

advice/feedback.

Mimi (mom to Isaac 4 mos..RSS?, hypothyroidism)

P.S.- We are going to convention and I am debating on taking the car

seat/ carrier. I hate to have to lug it around..can you use those on

shuttles and buses? Seems like a silly question but in Texas we have

public transportation but it is really not used often. (I have never

been on a bus!) ;)

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I am not sure about most of what you posted but I can comment on the ECI.

I am guessing it is some sort of Early Intervention program in your area? My

son Keigan was enrolled in this when he was about 5 months old. Actually, he

still is :) He was never behind on his milestones but I think they helped a

lot. We had an OT and a " home teacher " come out every few weeks and work with

him. They had a lot of good ideas on how to encourage and assist him in meeting

milestones. I have no idea if it made a difference in when he did anything but

it was nice to have more input on how we could help him. If they say you

qualify, I would highly reccomend it.

Mommy to Keigan (RSS) 4-15-03 and Tristian 9-26-01

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Mimi

Though am an unsure what ECI stands for I can address you question about

delays. My daughter Alyssa is now nearly 31 months. She reached all of her

milestones within the limits of normal. Many were the late end of normal.

For example though she was nearly 8 months before she sat alone and most

mark 6 months as average, 8 monhts is within the " normal " range. I should

point out that Alyssa's head is not, nor has it been since she was 4-5

months old, large for her body. From what I understand this is unusual for

RSS and I think it contributes largely to her being able to reach those

milestones. Her muscle tone is and has been weak, and we did use our

state's infant toddler program for OT from about 14 months until just this

month when she was released! If the ECI is anything like our infant toddler

program I would definately reccomend taking part. I truly believe one of

the reasons Alyssa continued to reach her milestones was due to the

bi-monthly therapy sessions. Our OT simply brought toys and activites to

encourage her development, I will miss the advice and suggestions for

activities for each month. It was wonderful to have her support and

suggestions even just for a short time. AND the best part is the program

will assist us thru the transition to the public school system to ensure all

of Alyssa's needs are met. This alone is worth it to me!!

Sorry this ended up so long, and I'm sure others will respond. Make the

best decision for you and yours and it will be the right one!

Dayna, Mom to Alyssa, 2 1/2 23lbs 34inc.

ECI/Development questions (sorry so long )

> Hi all!

>

> I have some questions about ECI & development. I have met with them

> twice this week and I am really confused. So far my son is

> developing " normally " and reaching milestones..he can hold his head

> up steady, push up when on belly etc. They told me that even though

> everything was OK now it would still be good to be in the program

> just in case he has any delays in the future. I have read alot of

> the posts and many of you have mentioned that your kids didn't reach

> milestones on time (walking, talking, soft spot closure). Does

> anyone have a kid with RSS that didn't have delays? Also, anyone who

> would like to share expierences with ECI...that would be great.

>

> The nurse that came out and did the eval said that his pediatrician

> put " failure to thrive " on the referral. No one has mentioned this

> to me before so I really don't know what that means..his doc has

> been telling me that he is gaining ok, just slowly. Most RSS/SGA

> babies are below the 5th percentile right? When the nurse plotted

> his growth on her chart he is below 5th on height and below 5th on

> weight but his height to weight ratio is 75th percentile!! Can that

> be right?

> At our 4 month check up his pedi mentioned that Isaac would be a

> candidate for GHT..how old are the kids when they start this?

>

> I apologize for the long post..thanks in advance for any

> advice/feedback.

> Mimi (mom to Isaac 4 mos..RSS?, hypothyroidism)

>

> P.S.- We are going to convention and I am debating on taking the car

> seat/ carrier. I hate to have to lug it around..can you use those on

> shuttles and buses? Seems like a silly question but in Texas we have

> public transportation but it is really not used often. (I have never

> been on a bus!) ;)

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi Mimi

I, as well, don't have the answers to some of your questions about

programming since I am in Canada.

Adam, my 11 1/2 year old RSS son, reached his milestones on the low end of

normal as well. Most of the milestones were pretty normal, according to the

doctors, but I thought they were slightly slower than my 14 year old

daughters.........but girls usually develop faster so that was the doctor's

reason for being pleased.

We never did any OT speech or PT. My son's speech, again according to me,

was delayed in speaking terms. He was a much clearer talker than my daughter

but I thought he should be speaking in sentences by 2 and he wasn't. In fact

it was that issue that lead us to even discovering he had RSS. I was sent to

a neurologist who dismissed the speech concerns immediately but zeroed in on

the growth.

His head incidentially was in the 95th percentile. But that was dismissed

early on because my head size, Adam's father's and my daughter's is all in

the 95th percentile. He seemed to just " go " right from the start and has

never stopped!!

He never had a feeding tube either. He might have, I suppose, if people had

picked up on the RSS when he was a baby. I use to just feed him around the

clock almost and often had to wake him up for those feedings in the very

beginning.

Does Adam have a mild form of RSS? It's quite possible. I know he does not

have the chromosome marker for it but then again his bone age is 5-6 years

delayed despite being on GHT for 3 years. That seems to indicate a bigger

problem.........most kids are not that far delayed.

We have just reached.........for the first time since he was 3........the

3rd percentile for height. He's at the 12th percentile for weight.

We started GHT when Adam was 8. From everyone on here, I realize that was

quite late however we were not offered the option until he was 7 (a long

story was it was delayed an additional year).

Hope that helps.

Debby

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Hi,

My 4.5 year old son who we do not think has RSS had hypotonia and Early

Intervention (EI) in MA. Emerence still is not diagnosed but she is SGA and

possibly RSS - we'll maybe find out after we see Dr. Harbison at the convention.

Anyway, EI did great things for my kids - she has gotten 2 PT 2x a week since 3

months old and OT 2x month since 11 months old. She is almost walking and had

hit most of her other milestones late but normal. We are concerned about her

speech but her review is next week and she will phase out we are pretty sure.

However, if the speech doesn't get better she can be reviewed again later.

mom to 4.5, and Emerence 15.5 mo. 16 lb 11 oz, 23 " (SGA)

ECI/Development questions (sorry so long )

> Hi all!

>

> I have some questions about ECI & development. I have met with them

> twice this week and I am really confused. So far my son is

> developing " normally " and reaching milestones..he can hold his head

> up steady, push up when on belly etc. They told me that even though

> everything was OK now it would still be good to be in the program

> just in case he has any delays in the future. I have read alot of

> the posts and many of you have mentioned that your kids didn't reach

> milestones on time (walking, talking, soft spot closure). Does

> anyone have a kid with RSS that didn't have delays? Also, anyone who

> would like to share expierences with ECI...that would be great.

>

> The nurse that came out and did the eval said that his pediatrician

> put " failure to thrive " on the referral. No one has mentioned this

> to me before so I really don't know what that means..his doc has

> been telling me that he is gaining ok, just slowly. Most RSS/SGA

> babies are below the 5th percentile right? When the nurse plotted

> his growth on her chart he is below 5th on height and below 5th on

> weight but his height to weight ratio is 75th percentile!! Can that

> be right?

> At our 4 month check up his pedi mentioned that Isaac would be a

> candidate for GHT..how old are the kids when they start this?

>

> I apologize for the long post..thanks in advance for any

> advice/feedback.

> Mimi (mom to Isaac 4 mos..RSS?, hypothyroidism)

>

> P.S.- We are going to convention and I am debating on taking the car

> seat/ carrier. I hate to have to lug it around..can you use those on

> shuttles and buses? Seems like a silly question but in Texas we have

> public transportation but it is really not used often. (I have never

> been on a bus!) ;)

>

>

>

>

>

>

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hi mimi!!

my son christopher met all of his milestones on time or ahead of

time. he walked at 11months. good luck!!

jodie

(nicholas-6 nonrss, christopher-3 rss 23lbs 8.5oz periacyin, ght

genotropin(on hold unitl july), ADHD (possible), assmentry (left

side), johnathon-11m nonrss)

> Hi all!

>

> I have some questions about ECI & development. I have met with

them

> twice this week and I am really confused. So far my son is

> developing " normally " and reaching milestones..he can hold his

head

> up steady, push up when on belly etc. They told me that even

though

> everything was OK now it would still be good to be in the program

> just in case he has any delays in the future. I have read alot of

> the posts and many of you have mentioned that your kids didn't

reach

> milestones on time (walking, talking, soft spot closure). Does

> anyone have a kid with RSS that didn't have delays? Also, anyone

who

> would like to share expierences with ECI...that would be great.

>

> The nurse that came out and did the eval said that his

pediatrician

> put " failure to thrive " on the referral. No one has mentioned this

> to me before so I really don't know what that means..his doc has

> been telling me that he is gaining ok, just slowly. Most RSS/SGA

> babies are below the 5th percentile right? When the nurse plotted

> his growth on her chart he is below 5th on height and below 5th on

> weight but his height to weight ratio is 75th percentile!! Can

that

> be right?

> At our 4 month check up his pedi mentioned that Isaac would be a

> candidate for GHT..how old are the kids when they start this?

>

> I apologize for the long post..thanks in advance for any

> advice/feedback.

> Mimi (mom to Isaac 4 mos..RSS?, hypothyroidism)

>

> P.S.- We are going to convention and I am debating on taking the

car

> seat/ carrier. I hate to have to lug it around..can you use those

on

> shuttles and buses? Seems like a silly question but in Texas we

have

> public transportation but it is really not used often. (I have

never

> been on a bus!) ;)

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Hi Mimi,

My son, who is not yet diagnosed Rss, was on late side of normal also. He

recieves PT and OT weekly, and is getting ready to start speech weekly. The

early intervention program is great to work with. If you start to question that

he is getting behind, you could get him reevaluated. I would definately

reccomend staying involved with them. Also, about the " failure to thrive " the

same thing happened to me, noone told me, I just saw it written on a paper. I

believe that it means that they are not growing the way that they should

be.Also, how much does your son weigh?

Good Luck!

le- mom to Datreon 11lb 10oz, probable RSS

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Thank you so much for your responses! I can't tell you how great all

of you are..it sure feels good to know that I am not alone. I get

frustrated with all of the doctors differing opinons but I just keep

telling myself to think positive.

le- Isaac will be 5 mos on June 19th and he weighs 9 lbs 11

oz and he is 21 inches long. When he was born he weighed 4 lbs 12oz

and 15 inches (he was 39 weeks)!

We are so excited about getting to go to convention..I can't wait to

meet all of you!

Take Care!

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Mimi,

I have one more response to your questions. It will not do any harm for your

son to have some early intervention even if he is reaching his milestones.

My son reached many of his late, but I've known many kids (not RSS) who reached

milestones on time but could have benefitted from some PT or OT (you can tell

these things after a while by watching the way a child walks, throws,

climbs). The OT can help with oral issues if your son has some oral issues when

it

comes to eating. I know my son had a lot of problems with different textures.

The only thing I will say is if you are ever not happy with a therapist, ask

for a new one. I know too many people who were not happy and continued to

receive services from a therapist they did not like.

To answer your questions about failure to thrive - it is a term used loosely

to describe a child who is not growing as expected - usually below the 5th

percentile. It was not assigned to my daughter who dropped from the 90th

percentile to the 10th percentile because she was in a normal range. I read

once

that the term " failure to grow appropriately " should be used. I wish they would

change it because it failure to thrive does not really describe RSS children.

To answer you last question about the growth chart. Yes, it is possible to

be in the 75th percentile on that chart. The first two charts look at his

height and weight compared to other children his age. The last chart compares

his

weight to his height (it does not look at age). But it is a good chart to

look at when you have a RSS child because it shows that even though he is small

for his age, his weight is good for his height.

Hope this helps.

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