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I joined this group shortly after being diagnosed just last Monday

(already seems like ages ago!) and have been reading all the e-

mails. You all are so great and informative, I'm really glad I found

this place. I'm pregnant with my fifth child (due Nov. 30) and have

had a difficult pregnancy already~ far worse than any of my others.

I've had a very difficult time since the birth of my FIRST child with

heart palpitations, excessive weight loss, sensitivity to heat,

etc...but the doctor's always diagnosed me with postpartum anxiety.

I now believe I've had this for years, but since I've been on

propranolol (with the exception of during pregnancy) since after my

first was born, I've just masked some of the symptoms. I went to my

regular OB appt. last Monday, and since my blood pressure was high,

my pulse was 110, and due to the fact that I've been hospitalized

three times for excessive vomiting~ my OB finally checked my

thyroid. Four days later I finally started medication. I'm relieved

but also so scared of what this will do to my baby. I'm on

propranolol (10 mgs/3 x's a day~ but my heart is still racing!) and

PTU (2-50 mgs tablets/3 x's a day). I haven't been able to gain any

weight yet, and I started out underweight. This has been so hard on

me and my family as I have 4 children ages 6 and under already...and

I've always been extremely active with them. My husband has been

having to take on a lot more responsibility as well as I've been

bedridden for a couple of weeks (been feeling a tiny bit better these

past 2 days).

If anyone has experience with Grave's during pregnancy, I would love

to hear your story! I also have Crohn's disease (I'm a mess, aren't

I?!) but have been in remission for 9 yrs~ although the past few

weeks I've had some gastrointestinal problems (could it be from the

Grave's?).

I'm sure I'll be asking LOTS of questions in the weeks to come, hope

you all don't mind! ;)

Take care,

Christi

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Hi Christi. You'll be hearing from other members who've been through this

successfully.. IIRC there's I who also has 5. (I remember those

days with 4 under 6 but I only developed GD after the birth of my last

child.) The good news is that as your pregnancy progresses the GD should

abate so you'll be able to reduce your dose.

It used to be that women who had GD while pregnant would have

thyroidectomies. That, in fact, was in the book my ex-endo #2 gave me, so

of course I thought that was standard operating procedure. It's not and

there's good reason to want to save your thyroid and be on ATDs.

Take care, Fay

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Hi Christi,

PTU is safe during pregnancy,there have been many people that have had

healthy babies while on it. Sometimes your thyroid levels get better

starting the second trimester...mine have. I am due Nov.12 with my 7th. I

was able to stop the ptu when only a few weeks pregnant,I was on 50mg 2x a

day,but there are others in this group that were on much higher doses than

you. Have you tried the chemo drug for nausea, " Zofran " ? Works really well

for many people with severe preg. sickness. I tried it this time and it

worked well during the day, at night I still threw up. One problem

though,,,they are $26 a pill!! luckily our insurance paid for 1/2,but some

don't. Perhaps you have already had several IV's of this:-). Anyway,wanted

to let you know you are not alone,I for one am with you. Keep in touch,Jen

New here~ pregnant and just diagnosed..

> I joined this group shortly after being diagnosed just last Monday

> (already seems like ages ago!) and have been reading all the e-

> mails. You all are so great and informative, I'm really glad I found

> this place. I'm pregnant with my fifth child (due Nov. 30) and have

> had a difficult pregnancy already~ far worse than any of my others.

> I've had a very difficult time since the birth of my FIRST child with

> heart palpitations, excessive weight loss, sensitivity to heat,

> etc...but the doctor's always diagnosed me with postpartum anxiety.

> I now believe I've had this for years, but since I've been on

> propranolol (with the exception of during pregnancy) since after my

> first was born, I've just masked some of the symptoms. I went to my

> regular OB appt. last Monday, and since my blood pressure was high,

> my pulse was 110, and due to the fact that I've been hospitalized

> three times for excessive vomiting~ my OB finally checked my

> thyroid. Four days later I finally started medication. I'm relieved

> but also so scared of what this will do to my baby. I'm on

> propranolol (10 mgs/3 x's a day~ but my heart is still racing!) and

> PTU (2-50 mgs tablets/3 x's a day). I haven't been able to gain any

> weight yet, and I started out underweight. This has been so hard on

> me and my family as I have 4 children ages 6 and under already...and

> I've always been extremely active with them. My husband has been

> having to take on a lot more responsibility as well as I've been

> bedridden for a couple of weeks (been feeling a tiny bit better these

> past 2 days).

>

> If anyone has experience with Grave's during pregnancy, I would love

> to hear your story! I also have Crohn's disease (I'm a mess, aren't

> I?!) but have been in remission for 9 yrs~ although the past few

> weeks I've had some gastrointestinal problems (could it be from the

> Grave's?).

>

> I'm sure I'll be asking LOTS of questions in the weeks to come, hope

> you all don't mind! ;)

>

> Take care,

>

> Christi

>

>

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Hi Christi,

Welcome to the group. I'm beginning my eighth month of pregnancy with my

first child. Before the pregnancy, I was on a massive dose of PTU. My

thyroid quickly improved in the first trimester and I was able to drop my PTU

considerably. Unlike some of the other moms in this group, I haven't been

able to get off PTU completely. I'm down to 50 mg twice/day and my thyroid

levels are just above the normal range. My heart was also racing, even while

using beta blockers, so my doctor told me I could gradually increase the

dosage until my heart rate went down, making sure I allowed 2 weeks between

increases to give the body a chance to adjust. I don't recommend that you do

this on your own without discussing it with your doctor first. Once my

thyroid cooled down, I was able to cut back on the beta blocker as well.

I had heard that Graves' generally improves in pregnancy, but I wasn't

prepared for how quickly my thyroid levels dropped. It was as though my

thyroid slammed on the brakes the moment of conception! Be sure that your

doctor monitors you frequently (every 4 weeks or so), especially in the first

trimester. Otherwise, you risk going hypo and that could be dangerous to the

baby.

Also, I had a tough time finding an iodine-free prenatal vitamin. Precare is

the only one my doctor & pharmacist were able find.

The digestive problems can definitely be caused by Graves.

Take care,

Tori

In a message dated 5/13/2003 10:51:39 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

christieid@... writes:

> I joined this group shortly after being diagnosed just last Monday

> (already seems like ages ago!) and have been reading all the e-

> mails. You all are so great and informative, I'm really glad I found

> this place. I'm pregnant with my fifth child (due Nov. 30) and have

> had a difficult pregnancy already~ far worse than any of my others.

> I've had a very difficult time since the birth of my FIRST child with

> heart palpitations, excessive weight loss, sensitivity to heat,

> etc...but the doctor's always diagnosed me with postpartum anxiety.

> I now believe I've had this for years, but since I've been on

> propranolol (with the exception of during pregnancy) since after my

> first was born, I've just masked some of the symptoms. I went to my

> regular OB appt. last Monday, and since my blood pressure was high,

> my pulse was 110, and due to the fact that I've been hospitalized

> three times for excessive vomiting~ my OB finally checked my

> thyroid. Four days later I finally started medication. I'm relieved

> but also so scared of what this will do to my baby. I'm on

> propranolol (10 mgs/3 x's a day~ but my heart is still racing!) and

> PTU (2-50 mgs tablets/3 x's a day). I haven't been able to gain any

> weight yet, and I started out underweight. This has been so hard on

> me and my family as I have 4 children ages 6 and under already...and

> I've always been extremely active with them. My husband has been

> having to take on a lot more responsibility as well as I've been

> bedridden for a couple of weeks (been feeling a tiny bit better these

> past 2 days).

>

> If anyone has experience with Grave's during pregnancy, I would love

> to hear your story! I also have Crohn's disease (I'm a mess, aren't

> I?!) but have been in remission for 9 yrs~ although the past few

> weeks I've had some gastrointestinal problems (could it be from the

> Grave's?).

>

> I'm sure I'll be asking LOTS of questions in the weeks to come, hope

> you all don't mind! ;)

>

> Take care,

>

> Christi

>

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Cristi,

I had a third child after my Graves diagnosis. My situation is a little

different, because I have both Hashis (hypothyroidism) and Graves (hyper).

AFter weaning my second child, I went into remission from Graves, without

conventional tx, and within ayear because hypo. I took armour.

After becoming pregnant, I took armour throughout my pregnancy. My graves did

NOT return. Other posts that have mentioned your illness may indeed improve

throughout pg. are correct. I too would opt for medication during preganncy. As

Faye noted, there are many many reasons to keep one's thyroid!!!!

Now I'm three months post partum and had to decrease my armour to a fraction of

it's normal amount, which means my thyroid is revving up. I'm not hyper yet,

but if that should happen I would wean my baby and see if the end ot

lactation/pregnancy hormones helped my condition.

After this baby, think about giving your body a bit of a break from pregnancy

and childbirth and lactation for a couple of years -- purely for health reasons.

I waited three years between children and during that time, my health completely

restablized. I think perhaps the hormonal influx of preg/lactation takes an

impact on those of us who have children close together or lots of children.

Take care,

B

New here~ pregnant and just diagnosed..

I joined this group shortly after being diagnosed just last Monday

(already seems like ages ago!) and have been reading all the e-

mails. You all are so great and informative, I'm really glad I found

this place. I'm pregnant with my fifth child (due Nov. 30) and have

had a difficult pregnancy already~ far worse than any of my others.

I've had a very difficult time since the birth of my FIRST child with

heart palpitations, excessive weight loss, sensitivity to heat,

etc...but the doctor's always diagnosed me with postpartum anxiety.

I now believe I've had this for years, but since I've been on

propranolol (with the exception of during pregnancy) since after my

first was born, I've just masked some of the symptoms. I went to my

regular OB appt. last Monday, and since my blood pressure was high,

my pulse was 110, and due to the fact that I've been hospitalized

three times for excessive vomiting~ my OB finally checked my

thyroid. Four days later I finally started medication. I'm relieved

but also so scared of what this will do to my baby. I'm on

propranolol (10 mgs/3 x's a day~ but my heart is still racing!) and

PTU (2-50 mgs tablets/3 x's a day). I haven't been able to gain any

weight yet, and I started out underweight. This has been so hard on

me and my family as I have 4 children ages 6 and under already...and

I've always been extremely active with them. My husband has been

having to take on a lot more responsibility as well as I've been

bedridden for a couple of weeks (been feeling a tiny bit better these

past 2 days).

If anyone has experience with Grave's during pregnancy, I would love

to hear your story! I also have Crohn's disease (I'm a mess, aren't

I?!) but have been in remission for 9 yrs~ although the past few

weeks I've had some gastrointestinal problems (could it be from the

Grave's?).

I'm sure I'll be asking LOTS of questions in the weeks to come, hope

you all don't mind! ;)

Take care,

Christi

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On Wed, 14 May 2003 11:53:05 EDT L@... writes:

> Hi Christi,

>

> Welcome to the group. I'm beginning my eighth month of pregnancy

> with my

> first child. Before the pregnancy, I was on a massive dose of PTU.

> My

> thyroid quickly improved in the first trimester and I was able to

> drop my PTU

> considerably. Unlike some of the other moms in this group, I

> haven't been

> able to get off PTU completely. I'm down to 50 mg twice/day

Wonderful news! I didn't realize that things had settled down. Hope you

can stay comfortable for the duration and that everything goes smoothly,

Fay

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Thanks, Fay. Things are going so well that I may be able to have my baby at

a birth center rather than a hospital. I find out today if the midwives get

approval for me to birth there. This is something I've wanted so much and

thought it wasn't an option, so I'm very excited by the possibility. Keep

your fingers crossed for me!

Peace,

Tori

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> Wonderful news! I didn't realize that things had settled down. Hope you

> can stay comfortable for the duration and that everything goes smoothly,

> Fay

>

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Tori -

That's GREAT news! I know how much you want to do this! One of my good

friends has had a midwife for 3 or her 4 (the midwife didn't make it in time

for #4!) and it was a great experience. Hope it works out and wishing you

have an easy delivery! Can't wait to hear about the birth!

Re: New here~ pregnant and just diagnosed..

> Thanks, Fay. Things are going so well that I may be able to have my baby

at

> a birth center rather than a hospital. I find out today if the midwives

get

> approval for me to birth there. This is something I've wanted so much and

> thought it wasn't an option, so I'm very excited by the possibility. Keep

> your fingers crossed for me!

>

> Peace,

> Tori

>

> In a message dated 5/14/2003 11:57:26 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

> cfyoung2@... writes:

>

> > Wonderful news! I didn't realize that things had settled down. Hope you

> > can stay comfortable for the duration and that everything goes smoothly,

> > Fay

> >

>

>

>

>

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On Fri, 16 May 2003 11:47:12 EDT L@... writes:

> Thanks, Fay. Things are going so well that I may be able to have my

> baby at

> a birth center rather than a hospital. I find out today if the

> midwives get

> approval for me to birth there. This is something I've wanted so

> much

Me too, though I've never done it. I did have some positive moments with

standard hospital births. Of course the main thing is (cliche alert,

though like most cliche true) it doesn't matter how they get into our

lives, but that they're there.

take care, Fay

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In a message dated 5/16/2003 10:36:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

cfyoung2@... writes:

> Me too, though I've never done it. I did have some positive moments with

> standard hospital births. Of course the main thing is (cliche alert,

> though like most cliche true) it doesn't matter how they get into our

> lives, but that they're there.

>

> take care, Fay

The doctor hasn't gotten back to the midwives yet and the waiting is killing

me! I'm hoping to get an answer tomorrow. Otherwise, the anticipation could

make my blood pressure go up and I won't be able to birth out of hospital!

While I agree with you that the main thing is having a safe, healthy baby, I

really do think that it matters how they get into our lives. I think birth

can be a profoundly empowering experience that brings couples closer and

strengthens their confidence in their inherent ability to parent their child.

An unfullfilling birth experience can undermine that confidence. I think

women should be in control of the birth and not made to feel like helpless

bystanders, whether they choose to birth in a hospital, birth center, or at

home.

Peace,

Tori

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> > Me too, though I've never done it. I did have some positive

> moments with

> > standard hospital births.

Let me amend this: no matter the circumstances from the pushing on was

definitely sublime.

(Tori)

> While I agree with you that the main thing is having a safe, healthy

> baby, I

> really do think that it matters how they get into our lives. I

> think birth

> can be a profoundly empowering experience that brings couples closer

> and

> strengthens their confidence in their inherent ability to parent

> their child.

> An unfullfilling birth experience can undermine that confidence.

> I think

> women should be in control of the birth and not made to feel like

> helpless

> bystanders, whether they choose to birth in a hospital, birth

> center, or at

> home.

I agree that a positive experience is empowering but don't get caught up

in negative thoughts about a less than positive experience.

OK. hope this isn't getting too OT, we can move this elsewhere, but the

day I had my last baby was the funeral of a close relative of the head of

the practice. All the drs. were there but one, and you can imagine how

frazzled he was. I had the presence of mind to be understanding (not to

mention the confidence of having done this and raised other kids before

;-) and really didn't let it get to me. I would like to think that had

this been my first or second I would still have had the same

understanding perspective.

Take care, fay

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Tori,

I am thrilled to hear you may get to have the birth you are hoping for

with your baby! I started out at a birth center with midwives for mine

(several years ago, before Graves) and they suggested a home birth.

After looking into it, I went with that option, and labored at home.

The midwives are very conservative, and at the first sign there might be

a problem, they trasfer. I ended up having to transfer, and in the

end had a C-section. Having both extremes of low-tech,

low-interference, and high-tech, high-interference, I can't begin to

express how wonderful midwives are!

I'm so happy for you!

== in Fla.

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