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Hi Liz.

> I have had GD for 5 years. Am treated with antithyroid drugs at max

> level for 2 weeks and slowly reduce my med and end up on half a

> tablet every second day for about a year. I am very sensitive to

> this drug.

A few questions: Do you go on the same ATD each time? Also, at what point

do you go off the meds? Do you have a TSI first? If the meds aren't

making you hypo, you may want to stay on a quarter tablet daily for even

longer than a year, or indefinitely.

> I don't really feel confident with radiation and the eye problems

> I've heard about.

I don't blame you. Have you considerd surgery, or possibly staying on

ATDs even longer term, or, in your case, true block and replace therapy

as practiced in countries other than North America?

Take care, Fay

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Hi Fay

I thought there was only one ATD - Methomercazole. Are there many others.

I am very sensitive to methomercazole i.e. meaning that it works quickly. The

trouble is that I am left on it for 2 weeks and feel very hypo - really sad and

weepy, dizzy when I bend over.

I usually go off it at the end of 2 weeks (having test tomorrow) and then start

on a lower dose and eventually end up on half every second day. I have never

had a problem with half every second day and wonder why I cannot stay on this

regime for ever. The endo may be really wrong for me in that case, because he

is not offering any option except RAI.

1.What is the TSI?? Is this the antibody test? If so, I have never had one!

Should I? What will it tell me.

2.What is the block and replace therapy?

Glad to hear that I am not the only one in the world who has had Graves for 5

years.

Liz

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Hi Liz.

> I have had GD for 5 years. Am treated with antithyroid drugs at max

> level for 2 weeks and slowly reduce my med and end up on half a

> tablet every second day for about a year. I am very sensitive to

> this drug.

A few questions: Do you go on the same ATD each time? Also, at what point

do you go off the meds? Do you have a TSI first? If the meds aren't

making you hypo, you may want to stay on a quarter tablet daily for even

longer than a year, or indefinitely.

> I don't really feel confident with radiation and the eye problems

> I've heard about.

I don't blame you. Have you considerd surgery, or possibly staying on

ATDs even longer term, or, in your case, true block and replace therapy

as practiced in countries other than North America?

Take care, Fay

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At 07:56 PM 8/5/2003, you wrote:

>Hi Fay

>

>I thought there was only one ATD - Methomercazole. Are there many others.

There is PTU (propylthiuracil). I believe Tapazole is very similar to

Methomercazole.

If you go hypO on a low dose but still have TSI (thyroid stimulating

immunoglobulins, also known as the antibodies that mimic TSH and stimulate

the thyroid to release excess thyroxin), then you can be on an ATD with

synthroid to boost your FT4 and FT3, and keep you comfortable. If you have

TSI above 2%, then you are at high risk for relapse of Graves'. Only the

ATDs help with the antibodies, and you don't want to be off them until you

are in remission (TSI <2%). It is also good to get tested for TPO

antibodies, as these are also often found with Graves', but more suggestive

(and common) with Hashimoto's Thyroiditis.

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I am in detective mode.

I have been taking HRT/DHEA by way of a troche from a compounding pharmacist.

Recently my estrogen levels went astronomical. However they were probably like

that for about 4 months. When I found out I took a lower dose of the HRT and

the levels came down.

I was also told by Alternative doctor to take DHEA when I am stressd out to

build up my stamin (i.e. immunity).

Do you think that the estrogen and dhea caused my hyerthyroidism to blow up

again????

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Hi Liz.

> I have had GD for 5 years. Am treated with antithyroid drugs at max

> level for 2 weeks and slowly reduce my med and end up on half a

> tablet every second day for about a year. I am very sensitive to

> this drug.

A few questions: Do you go on the same ATD each time? Also, at what point

do you go off the meds? Do you have a TSI first? If the meds aren't

making you hypo, you may want to stay on a quarter tablet daily for even

longer than a year, or indefinitely.

> I don't really feel confident with radiation and the eye problems

> I've heard about.

I don't blame you. Have you considerd surgery, or possibly staying on

ATDs even longer term, or, in your case, true block and replace therapy

as practiced in countries other than North America?

Take care, Fay

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>

> Hi Liz.

>

> > I have had GD for 5 years. Am treated with antithyroid drugs at max

> > level for 2 weeks and slowly reduce my med and end up on half a

> > tablet every second day for about a year. I am very sensitive to

> > this drug.

>

> A few questions: Do you go on the same ATD each time? Also, at what

point

> do you go off the meds? Do you have a TSI first? If the meds aren't

> making you hypo, you may want to stay on a quarter tablet daily for even

> longer than a year, or indefinitely.

>

> > I don't really feel confident with radiation and the eye problems

> > I've heard about.

>

> I don't blame you. Have you considerd surgery, or possibly staying on

> ATDs even longer term, or, in your case, true block and replace therapy

> as practiced in countries other than North America?

>

> Take care, Fay

>

>

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Hi there again

I need help with my ATD meds. My endo is going to phone me back this afternoon

to tell me what to do with my meds.

After 5 years of being messed around I don't trust the endo, but I have to sort

out my levels until I can get an appointment with a new endo.

First visit this year: Very hyper!

T4 32 (Range 10-20)

T3 9 (Range 3.5-6.5)

TSH .017 (rANGE .35-5.0)

After these tests I started taking 30mg. neomercazole and was retested after 2

weeks

T4 37

T3 11.21

TSH .007

T4 and T3 are rising and TSH is dropping - so I was put on 45mg neomercazole.

for 1 week.

Today I was retested again and rang my endo to ask what to do next. I haven't

heard yet. This is where I need some help from someone?

Today:

T4 26

T3 8.78

TSH .006

My WBC was at the very lowest reading of normal.

Should I presume that is because I am overmedicated?

I would love to hear from somebody. I am constantly told by my GP that surgery

would be great for me. H E L P!!!

Liz

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Elaine

Blood tests came back and methomercazole hasn't brought down T3 and T4 and TSH

is even more suppressed. Have been put on higher dose of Methomer.

Previously 30 mg per day for 2 weeks

Now been put on 45mg for the next week to see what happens. All blood counts

were fine. Antibodies still to come.

July blood test

T4 32 (range 10-20)

T3 9 (Range 3.5-6.5

TSH 0.017 (RANGE .35-5.0

August blood test on 30mg Methomerc.(today)

T4 37 (range 10-20)

T3 11.21 (range 3.5-6.5)

TSH 0.007 (range .35-5.0)

Now starting on 45 mg per day

I feel all jumbled up now.

I have been dragging myself around for 2 weeks on 30mg thinking I was more

hyper, only to find the blood tests say I'm more hyper and need more drugs.

I felt so bad last night that I halved my dose for the evening and felt great

today.

Whats going on? Help!!!! I'm going nuts!

Liz

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You are simply not getting enough info with those outmoded tests. You need a

FREE t4 and t3, not total. Or at least the T4. Also the span of time given

with each dose is too short to be meaningful. If neomercazole corresponds to

Tapazole dosage (I think it does) 45 mg. is awfully high--especially after

only 2 weeks on 30 mg. Your body has to use up stored hormone, and that

takes 6 weeks. So these tests are meaningless.

I guess you need to look at how you feel, as an alternative to trusting this

doctor. What are your current symptoms?

Terry

>

> Reply-To: graves_support

> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2003 16:21:22 +1000

> To: <graves_support >

> Subject: Re: Sittin on the fence

>

> Hi there again

>

> I need help with my ATD meds. My endo is going to phone me back this

> afternoon to tell me what to do with my meds.

>

> After 5 years of being messed around I don't trust the endo, but I have to

> sort out my levels until I can get an appointment with a new endo.

>

> First visit this year: Very hyper!

>

> T4 32 (Range 10-20)

> T3 9 (Range 3.5-6.5)

> TSH .017 (rANGE .35-5.0)

>

> After these tests I started taking 30mg. neomercazole and was retested after 2

> weeks

> T4 37

> T3 11.21

> TSH .007

>

> T4 and T3 are rising and TSH is dropping - so I was put on 45mg neomercazole.

> for 1 week.

>

> Today I was retested again and rang my endo to ask what to do next. I haven't

> heard yet. This is where I need some help from someone?

>

> Today:

>

> T4 26

> T3 8.78

> TSH .006

>

> My WBC was at the very lowest reading of normal.

> Should I presume that is because I am overmedicated?

>

> I would love to hear from somebody. I am constantly told by my GP that

> surgery would be great for me. H E L P!!!

>

> Liz

>

>

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> liz.jameson@...

> Sittin on the fence is PANICKING

>

>

> Elaine

>

> Blood tests came back and methomercazole hasn't brought down T3 and T4 and TSH

> is even more suppressed. Have been put on higher dose of Methomer.

> Previously 30 mg per day for 2 weeks

> Now been put on 45mg for the next week to see what happens. All blood counts

> were fine. Antibodies still to come.

>

> July blood test

>

> T4 32 (range 10-20)

> T3 9 (Range 3.5-6.5

> TSH 0.017 (RANGE .35-5.0

>

> August blood test on 30mg Methomerc.(today)

>

> T4 37 (range 10-20)

> T3 11.21 (range 3.5-6.5)

> TSH 0.007 (range .35-5.0)

>

> Now starting on 45 mg per day

>

> I feel all jumbled up now.

> I have been dragging myself around for 2 weeks on 30mg thinking I was more

> hyper, only to find the blood tests say I'm more hyper and need more drugs.

>

> I felt so bad last night that I halved my dose for the evening and felt great

> today.

>

> Whats going on? Help!!!! I'm going nuts!

>

> Liz

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Terry

I have dumped by old endo - hooray!!!. I organised an new 'Thyroidologist'

appointment in 24 hours.

He is a top thyroidologist at a hospital near to me. At the appointment I told

him that I was not interested in RAI and surgery and wanted a proper run on

ATD's. I told him I wanted antibody tests run all the time, whereas previously

I had only had one initial antibody test 5 years ago. He agreed that it was

stupid to go off ATDs if I hadnt had antibody tests - a recipe for failure.

He is very happy to work out a plan for medication for ever. Ah - there is a

light at the end of the tunnel!!

Re: Fts and Ts: I haven't been able to get to the bottom of the testing here

in Oz. Sometimes my tests come back saying T4, othertimes is FT4 - there has

never been a consistency is the naming. I will ask the ladies at the place

where I get blood tests as to why there is an inconistency. Its crazy. I

remember my GP requesting FT4 and it comes back saying T4 - my nex t project.

The new Thyroid doctor said to stay on the 45mg for another 2 weeks. He said

that I should be alright on this dose. He also said that if I feel a bit hypo

it is because my heart has a deficiency because it has been overworked with the

hyperthyroid symptoms. He also said I am tired after these hypo events because

my heart has been overworking. What do you think???? He also said that 45 mg

shouldn't affect me for the next 2 weeks. He has asked me to have another blood

test in 10 days just to check. What do you think??? Do you think he might send

me hypo?

Sorry my emails have been a bit all over the place, but it has taken awhile to

get around knowing the right sort of questions to ask and digesting the

information that comes back.

Liz

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Sittin on the fence is PANICKING

>

>

> Elaine

>

> Blood tests came back and methomercazole hasn't brought down T3 and T4 and

TSH

> is even more suppressed. Have been put on higher dose of Methomer.

> Previously 30 mg per day for 2 weeks

> Now been put on 45mg for the next week to see what happens. All blood

counts

> were fine. Antibodies still to come.

>

> July blood test

>

> T4 32 (range 10-20)

> T3 9 (Range 3.5-6.5

> TSH 0.017 (RANGE .35-5.0

>

> August blood test on 30mg Methomerc.(today)

>

> T4 37 (range 10-20)

> T3 11.21 (range 3.5-6.5)

> TSH 0.007 (range .35-5.0)

>

> Now starting on 45 mg per day

>

> I feel all jumbled up now.

> I have been dragging myself around for 2 weeks on 30mg thinking I was more

> hyper, only to find the blood tests say I'm more hyper and need more drugs.

>

> I felt so bad last night that I halved my dose for the evening and felt

great

> today.

>

> Whats going on? Help!!!! I'm going nuts!

>

> Liz

>

>

>

>

>

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First of all Liz, congratulations on finding a 'thyroidologist'. What a

great term! Does he call himself that? I suspect that given his willingness

to have you take ATD's, and his statement about antibodies, you should start

out trusting him cautiously, go with his program and see what happens. In 2

weeks you can't become too hypo! I've never heard of his heart/hyper logic,

perhaps Elaine or someone else will chime in on that. It's an interesting

idea.

Bottom line is, you should be able to fairly quickly move down in dosage

and with regular care and testing and an active, self-aware mindset you

should be able to participate more in your own care and have the doctor as

an ally, not an enemy.

If you look at the lab slips, they generally specify " ft4' as the test.

Mine, if the doc wants a Ft3, he has to write it in. But the lab should be

responsible for running the tests that are on the slip, not others! Again,

Elaine might want to comment on this as she works in a lab environment. You

might want to put a post up with her name in the subject line and ask.

Terry

>

> Reply-To: graves_support

> Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2003 22:21:21 +1000

> To: <graves_support >

> Subject: Re: Sittin on the fence

>

> Terry

>

> I have dumped by old endo - hooray!!!. I organised an new 'Thyroidologist'

> appointment in 24 hours.

>

> He is a top thyroidologist at a hospital near to me. At the appointment I

> told him that I was not interested in RAI and surgery and wanted a proper run

> on ATD's. I told him I wanted antibody tests run all the time, whereas

> previously I had only had one initial antibody test 5 years ago. He agreed

> that it was stupid to go off ATDs if I hadnt had antibody tests - a recipe for

> failure.

>

> He is very happy to work out a plan for medication for ever. Ah - there is a

> light at the end of the tunnel!!

>

> Re: Fts and Ts: I haven't been able to get to the bottom of the testing here

> in Oz. Sometimes my tests come back saying T4, othertimes is FT4 - there has

> never been a consistency is the naming. I will ask the ladies at the place

> where I get blood tests as to why there is an inconistency. Its crazy. I

> remember my GP requesting FT4 and it comes back saying T4 - my nex t project.

>

> The new Thyroid doctor said to stay on the 45mg for another 2 weeks. He said

> that I should be alright on this dose. He also said that if I feel a bit

> hypo it is because my heart has a deficiency because it has been overworked

> with the hyperthyroid symptoms. He also said I am tired after these hypo

> events because my heart has been overworking. What do you think???? He also

> said that 45 mg shouldn't affect me for the next 2 weeks. He has asked me to

> have another blood test in 10 days just to check. What do you think??? Do you

> think he might send me hypo?

>

> Sorry my emails have been a bit all over the place, but it has taken awhile to

> get around knowing the right sort of questions to ask and digesting the

> information that comes back.

>

> Liz

>

>

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> Sittin on the fence is PANICKING

>>

>>

>> Elaine

>>

>> Blood tests came back and methomercazole hasn't brought down T3 and T4 and

>> TSH

>> is even more suppressed. Have been put on higher dose of Methomer.

>> Previously 30 mg per day for 2 weeks

>> Now been put on 45mg for the next week to see what happens. All blood

>> counts

>> were fine. Antibodies still to come.

>>

>> July blood test

>>

>> T4 32 (range 10-20)

>> T3 9 (Range 3.5-6.5

>> TSH 0.017 (RANGE .35-5.0

>>

>> August blood test on 30mg Methomerc.(today)

>>

>> T4 37 (range 10-20)

>> T3 11.21 (range 3.5-6.5)

>> TSH 0.007 (range .35-5.0)

>>

>> Now starting on 45 mg per day

>>

>> I feel all jumbled up now.

>> I have been dragging myself around for 2 weeks on 30mg thinking I was more

>> hyper, only to find the blood tests say I'm more hyper and need more drugs.

>>

>> I felt so bad last night that I halved my dose for the evening and felt great

>> today.

>>

>> Whats going on? Help!!!! I'm going nuts!

>>

>> Liz

>>

>>

>>

>>

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Hi

Have been on 45mg Methomerc. for 17 days and have just got back the blood test

results over the phone. Again - only Total Ts.

T4 15 (10-20)

T3 5.7 (3.5-6.5)

TSH .005 (.35-5.0)

This result was taking 45mg Methomercazole.

BIG PROBLEM!!!!! My blood count has dropped from 4.3 (not on ATDS and had the

flu for 3 weeks) to 3.5 today (on 45mg methomerc). Should I be jumping???

My new Endo rang and told me to stop all Methomercazole for 24 hours. I have an

appointment tomorrow and he plans to change meds to PTU. I know very little

about PTU.

Can you please give me some guidance as to what the equivalent dosage might be

on PTu to maintain my thyroid.

You told me to be cautious about the new endo and I am. Luckily I noticed that

he left out the WBC on the blood form otherwise nobody would have known

that my WBC had droppted.

I rang the new endo and told the secretary to ring the old endo and compare my

old notes with the latest figures. I am forcing them to confer on my health.

I am not going to be jerked around anymore.

Your views would be extremely valuable.

Liz

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>

>

> Elaine

>

> Blood tests came back and methomercazole hasn't brought down T3 and T4 and

TSH

> is even more suppressed. Have been put on higher dose of Methomer.

> Previously 30 mg per day for 2 weeks

> Now been put on 45mg for the next week to see what happens. All blood

counts

> were fine. Antibodies still to come.

>

> July blood test

>

> T4 32 (range 10-20)

> T3 9 (Range 3.5-6.5

> TSH 0.017 (RANGE .35-5.0

>

> August blood test on 30mg Methomerc.(today)

>

> T4 37 (range 10-20)

> T3 11.21 (range 3.5-6.5)

> TSH 0.007 (range .35-5.0)

>

> Now starting on 45 mg per day

>

> I feel all jumbled up now.

> I have been dragging myself around for 2 weeks on 30mg thinking I was more

> hyper, only to find the blood tests say I'm more hyper and need more

drugs.

>

> I felt so bad last night that I halved my dose for the evening and felt

great

> today.

>

> Whats going on? Help!!!! I'm going nuts!

>

> Liz

>

>

>

>

>

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Sorry..

I keep thinking of more.

Those are Total T numbers which can be falsely elevated. So it is possible

you are all the way to hypo in that 17 days.

Graves' itself causes bad readings on WBC and liver tests.

So a huge overdose of this ATD combined with you already bad numbers would

be the expected result.

-Pam L-

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Hi there

It was 4.3

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What was the baseline reading on your blood count BEFORE the drug ?

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It dropped to Free T4 15 Free T3 5.7 TSH .005

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How far did yor thyroid numbers drop in 17 days ?

They are normal right now.

A MUCH lower dose is in order.

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The numbers are Free Ts because the ranges have been changed to they are not

total.

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Sorry..

I keep thinking of more.

Those are Total T numbers which can be falsely elevated. So it is possible

you are all the way to hypo in that 17 days.

Graves' itself causes bad readings on WBC and liver tests.

So a huge overdose of this ATD combined with you already bad numbers would

be the expected result.

-Pam L-

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These results are free Ts

FT4 15 (10-25)

FT3 5.7 (3.4-6.5)

TSH .005 (.35-5.0)

Ive looked at the blood forms at it says Free T3,4

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>

>

> Elaine

>

> Blood tests came back and methomercazole hasn't brought down T3 and T4

and TSH

> is even more suppressed. Have been put on higher dose of Methomer.

> Previously 30 mg per day for 2 weeks

> Now been put on 45mg for the next week to see what happens. All blood

counts

> were fine. Antibodies still to come.

>

> July blood test

>

> T4 32 (range 10-20)

> T3 9 (Range 3.5-6.5

> TSH 0.017 (RANGE .35-5.0

>

> August blood test on 30mg Methomerc.(today)

>

> T4 37 (range 10-20)

> T3 11.21 (range 3.5-6.5)

> TSH 0.007 (range .35-5.0)

>

> Now starting on 45 mg per day

>

> I feel all jumbled up now.

> I have been dragging myself around for 2 weeks on 30mg thinking I was

more

> hyper, only to find the blood tests say I'm more hyper and need more

drugs.

>

> I felt so bad last night that I halved my dose for the evening and felt

great

> today.

>

> Whats going on? Help!!!! I'm going nuts!

>

> Liz

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi again

My new endo wants to take me of Methomercazole tomorrow because he thinks that

it is affecting my WBC.

Do you think the PTu will change the labs on WBC?

Or do all the ATDs affect WBC?

Liz

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And...

How far did yor thyroid numbers drop in 17 days ?

They are normal right now.

A MUCH lower dose is in order.

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Liz asked:

Or do all the ATDs affect WBC?

Only if they are overdosed in most all cases.

I am still searching for your original labs to compare to todays. ~sigh~

The thing we see often is gals being switched to the 'other' drug and doing

fine.... but they are also put on a lower dose... duh ! So even though they

believe they were allergic to the first drug... the case is never proven

because the LOWER dose was needed on EITHER one of them.

Switching is fine... but do not believe for FACT that if the next one is

given in too high a dose also, you are out of options.

What drug were you able to take before and no problems ?

-Pam L-

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Firstly thanks for being there for me!

history:

July 21: Free T4 32 Free T3 9.35 TSH 0.017 White cells 4.3

2 WEEks on Methomerco. @ 30mg

August 8 Free T4 37 Free T3 11.21 TSH 0.007

1 WEEK ON Methmerc @ 45mg

August 14 Free T4 26 Free T3 8.78 TSH .006

Saw new endo and he said another 10 days on 45mg (won't heart you)

August 26 Free T4 15 Free T3 5.7 TSH 0.005 White cells 3.5

Taken off methomerc. for 29 hours until my appointment today (27th) at 2.30

I have been worried sick all night because you said that I was going hypo. Will

this overdose of ATDS send me hypo permanently???? I'm really scared of that.

I was stupid to stay on the high dose for so long, but yet again, I thought the

new endo new what he was doing, even though I already told him my WBC was

heading down when I saw him. I MUST LISTEN to my body. It told me 5 days later

that something wasnt right! I will have blood tests every week until the

thyroid is stabilised. Just tell me I'm not going hypo permanently.????? What

to look out for!

Liz

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Liz asked:

Or do all the ATDs affect WBC?

Only if they are overdosed in most all cases.

I am still searching for your original labs to compare to todays. ~sigh~

The thing we see often is gals being switched to the 'other' drug and doing

fine.... but they are also put on a lower dose... duh ! So even though they

believe they were allergic to the first drug... the case is never proven

because the LOWER dose was needed on EITHER one of them.

Switching is fine... but do not believe for FACT that if the next one is

given in too high a dose also, you are out of options.

What drug were you able to take before and no problems ?

-Pam L-

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Hi again

Today I visit the new endo. I have been off methomerc. for 27 hours by then.

He wants to switch me to PTU because of he bad WBC.

Q. 1. If I was on 45mg methomeerc. with the below results, what should be the

best drop in tthe new PTU.

ptu 50mg = metho 5mg

Q2. For how long should I stay on the dose if my levels are witthin the

boundaries, except TSH?

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Re: Sittin on the fence

Liz asked:

Or do all the ATDs affect WBC?

Only if they are overdosed in most all cases.

I am still searching for your original labs to compare to todays. ~sigh~

The thing we see often is gals being switched to the 'other' drug and doing

fine.... but they are also put on a lower dose... duh ! So even though they

believe they were allergic to the first drug... the case is never proven

because the LOWER dose was needed on EITHER one of them.

Switching is fine... but do not believe for FACT that if the next one is

given in too high a dose also, you are out of options.

What drug were you able to take before and no problems ?

-Pam L-

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