Re: OT: testing

[Guest guest]

Good Luck! I will never forget my anxiety over collecting the first morning

urine from my 3 yr. old son. I paced the hall for an hour, not wanting to

wake him up, but needing to catch him immediately after waking. I finally

just woke him up and brought him straight to the bathroom. I had him sit on

the toilet while I held the collection cup under him. It was miserable, but

he did it, after much fighting. I tried to read to him, but he was so tired

and upset, that failed miserably (not to mention the fact he was afraid he'd

fall in the toilet, so I had to hold him too). It would've been nice to

have been able to give him some juice or something to drink while we waited

for him to go, to take his mind off of it, but he had to have an empty

stomach for the other tests they were doing that day. I did promise him a

treat on the way home from the Drs.

OT: testing

> Hi all. We are FINALLY going for testing for my son's

> ION profile (amino acids, EFAs,etc), IgG. Urine and

> Blood samples.

> Can you " veterans " give me some advice on HOW TO GET a

> first morning urine sample (BAG PROVIDED) on a STRONG

> willed 3 yr old.

>

> There is a 'restraining' system to get the blood work

> (which he will need), he goes balistic with just going

> to the doc much less blood work... I am trying not to

> get real worked up myself.

>

> Wonder how many vials they will have to take?

> What other testing should I have done WHILE I AM THERE

> and we are going through all of this???? Any

> suggestions? There have been NO TESTING at this point

> so far.

>

> Thanks to all.

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Caroline: We went through this a couple of weeks ago with our little

guy. For us, the urine collection went amazingly easily. We had the

collection bag (fm Great Plains Lab) and put it on him when we put

him down the night before. Totally expected him to rip it off, but

he didn't, and we had a good sample the next morning.

For the blood draw, friends suggested we get some EMLA cream. It's a

by-prescription topical anesthetic. We applied to both wrists, and

the inside of both elbows, abt an hour before the procedure. There's

not much pain anyway, but this helps them get past the needle stick.

For all the tests our doc ordered, it took abt eight vials. I sat

and held him (TIGHTLY) thoughout, but he was a trooper.

Hope this helps...

Joe Gallant

's dad (3.1, ASD)

> Hi all. We are FINALLY going for testing for my son's

> ION profile (amino acids, EFAs,etc), IgG. Urine and

> Blood samples.

> Can you " veterans " give me some advice on HOW TO GET a

> first morning urine sample (BAG PROVIDED) on a STRONG

> willed 3 yr old.

>

> There is a 'restraining' system to get the blood work

> (which he will need), he goes balistic with just going

> to the doc much less blood work... I am trying not to

> get real worked up myself.

>

> Wonder how many vials they will have to take?

> What other testing should I have done WHILE I AM THERE

> and we are going through all of this???? Any

> suggestions? There have been NO TESTING at this point

> so far.

>

> Thanks to all.

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

what is this testing and how do i get it done??

crystal

OT: testing

> Hi all. We are FINALLY going for testing for my son's

> ION profile (amino acids, EFAs,etc), IgG. Urine and

> Blood samples.

> Can you " veterans " give me some advice on HOW TO GET a

> first morning urine sample (BAG PROVIDED) on a STRONG

> willed 3 yr old.

>

> There is a 'restraining' system to get the blood work

> (which he will need), he goes balistic with just going

> to the doc much less blood work... I am trying not to

> get real worked up myself.

>

> Wonder how many vials they will have to take?

> What other testing should I have done WHILE I AM THERE

> and we are going through all of this???? Any

> suggestions? There have been NO TESTING at this point

> so far.

>

> Thanks to all.

>

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

>Can you " veterans " give me some advice on HOW TO GET a

> first morning urine sample (BAG PROVIDED) on a STRONG

> willed 3 yr old.

With great difficulty ;-) Mine will not pee anywhere else but in a

diaper if there is anybody in the room with him. If there isn't

anybody with him the carpet is in need of another shampoo. The first

time we had to get a sample (he has awoken dry for over 2 years) I

stripped him and followed him round with a pot. At about six in the

evening he finally cut loose and I caught some of it in the pot. But

was it then a first morning urine or a 20 hour collection? Tape on

bags - not this kid as his fine motor skills are more than adequate

to deal with that.

The bright side is that we are now using the keep him naked approach

to toilet training and are finally getting results. And I minimize

testing as much as possible which I also think is a good thing.

> There is a 'restraining' system to get the blood work

> (which he will need), he goes balistic with just going

> to the doc much less blood work... I am trying not to

> get real worked up myself.

When mine was 3 weeks old and still weighed less than 10 pounds he

caught a stomach bug that put him in a raging fever. He has to have a

lumbar puncture and my husband had to hold him through it. This

spring he had an undiagnosed sinus infection that suddenly spiked a

temp and sent him into febrile convulsions. We have decided that

anything not needed we will avoid and anything needed we will be

there and do whatever is needed. I live in a rural area, which has

pluses and minuses. One of the good things is that a little hospital

where I once did some work is great about blood draws. I call and

warn them and find out when their best blood techs are there and when

it is quiet. I go in on my own if possible in advance to fill out

paperwork if needed so I can minimize waits. I book appointments way

in advance so I can get the first appointment of the day and time my

arrival carefully. If he really reacts badly to an office (or they

keep me waiting long without valid reason) I change offices and at a

new place make sure I have several innocuous visits to get him used

to it all with a big treat afterwards regardless of his behavior.

Then I hold him, using westling holds as needed, and they have been

able to get up to 7 vials with one puncture. As soon as it is over I

wave his swimsuit (in summer) or a Mcs bag (in winter) in front

of him. No need to 'board' him with restraints yet even though he is

strong ang very strong willed. And at this point thanks to early

teaching in physical skills I have only had one black eye. Gradually

it gets easier.

Good luck.

jan

[Guest guest]

Caroline, when we did my son testing, the eldest twin, we first got a

prescription for emla creme to use as a numbing effect on his arm where the

blood would be drawn. We also took him 45 minutes away to the children's

hospital and found an oncologist (spelling?) nurse who is accustomed to

needles and children. They evidently work on children having chemo. It was

still an ordeal but worth the results. With the urine collection, we would

wake Triston up about an hour and a half before his normal wake up time, put

the bag on him and then keep him up, usually rocking in this glider and

vegging out on PBSkids. We usually got the sample within an hour and I would

check him every couple of minutes. We tried letting him go back to sleep

once, but the bag just leaked out in soaked into his diaper. If you kind of

tear a hole in the center of the diaper, you can kind of have more space for

the bag and it will not leak out as easy. When we send off both stool and

urine, we always get the stool first, then the urine the next morning. Donna

in Kingwood, TX