Guest guest Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 Hi Cheryl- I think he does have the " RSS " look. My son will be 8 mos old on Sunday and he eats like a machine also. He is well below the 3% line for weight but head size is in the " normal " range. If you want to compare pics look in the file under Isaac. Good Luck and give us updates! Take Care- Mimi mom to Isaac (RSS, Hypothyroid, 8 mos 11# 6 oz) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 Cherly, First of all Landen is absolutely too cute for words! ) Secondly, I think he has the RSS look as well. Especially in that first picture. My son is and he is 2 years and almost 4 months old. He is on the more severe side of the RSS spectrum. He has a feeding tube and struggles to gain weight even on that. We have also finally just confirmed he has reflux and is aspirating! UGH. What is the deal with Landen as far as a diagnosis? I mean, has one of his docotrs mentioned this to you, or are you coming up with this on your own based on research? We would love to hear a little more about him if you are wiling to share. is trying to help me type, so I guess I am done! ) Take care and welcome to the group, Jodi R. , 18 lbs. 14 oz., j tube, prilosec > I've posted some pictures of our little guy, Landen who is now 13 > months old. We are in the beginning stages of a possible RSS > diagnoses. I know your input is subjective, but very valuable!!! If > anyone has time, please check out the pics posted under " Landen " and > give me your thots? What do you think? Does he have the " RSS > Look? " He is in the 3rd% for weight and 95% for head size. He has > been wearing the same clothes (6-9mo) since March! And he eats like a > machine! His most significant issue right now is low muscle tone. > We will have some testing done (through our geneticist) in October- > bone scan, ultrasound on stomach/liver, bloodwork-and hope to have > some more answers then. Thanks for all your initial feedback when I > posted about a month ago. You all are so encouraging! > Cheryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 Cheryl - I am sorry to be the " bad apple " among the people who have posted so far, but I would say your son does not have the typical RSS look. However, he has some of the looks -- he definitely has the larger head, and he has the bossed forehead. But he does not appear to have a triangular shaped face at all, it is hard to tell but it doesn't look like his ears are posteriorly rotated or low-set. However, that being said, he may be matUPD7 RSS, and those 10% kids have a different facial look, usually more squarish and boxy like his. What was his birth weight and birth length, as well as his gestational age? Why is the doctor going to do a ultrasound of his stomach and liver? Is he having any other symptoms which would cause the doctor to order these ultrasounds? Has his weight and length pretty much followed along the same curve as it was when he was born, or has he fallen off either or both curves? If you give me some more info, I can try and help you. I absolutely feel for you. Although some parents are lucky enough to get a diagnosis (whatever the diagnosis is) pretty quickly, most of us go through a painful ordeal in the search for " why our child isn't growing. " Let me know the answers to the questions, and I will do everything I can to help. Salem (mom to , co-division consultant for MAGIC's RSS/SGA division) > I've posted some pictures of our little guy, Landen who is now 13 > months old. We are in the beginning stages of a possible RSS > diagnoses. I know your input is subjective, but very valuable!!! If > anyone has time, please check out the pics posted under " Landen " and > give me your thots? What do you think? Does he have the " RSS > Look? " He is in the 3rd% for weight and 95% for head size. He has > been wearing the same clothes (6-9mo) since March! And he eats like a > machine! His most significant issue right now is low muscle tone. > We will have some testing done (through our geneticist) in October- > bone scan, ultrasound on stomach/liver, bloodwork-and hope to have > some more answers then. Thanks for all your initial feedback when I > posted about a month ago. You all are so encouraging! > Cheryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2004 Report Share Posted September 17, 2004 and all, Here is Landen's " long " story . . . Landen was born at 38wks gestation and weighed 7lb4oz. Prenatally, there were no concerns in his growth and the only problem experienced was a car accident when I was 7 months pregnant. We were rear-ended by a semi in Chicago on the freeway. I had one huge contraction and then continued to have labor type (but not labor inducing) contractions until he was born which was about 10 weeks later. His birth was a normal vaginal non- medicated delivery with no incidence. At about 2 weeks of age, we noticed a significant lump on the top right front of his skull. Within 1 month, it seemed to get bigger and bigger and the opposite side on the back of his skull completely flattened out. After seeing several doctors, he was diagnosed with torticollis (short neck muscle) that was supposedly not allowing his head to turn to the right and therefore cause the flattening of the skull as well as the lump on the front. He wore a cranial moulding helmet for about 3 months which did a beautiful job of correcting the skull shape. The neurosurgeon did comment that his ears were rotated and that there was some assymetry with his ears and cheekbones. He said that this was caused by the " occipital plagiocephaly " (flattened skull) and would never be corrected. At that time, we also really began observing that he did not use his right side much at all and rarely looked to his right. We had a Physical Therapy evaluation done and found out that he was 2-3 months behind in his gross motor skills and the therapist encouraged us to seek a diagnosis for his obvious low muscle tone. We then went to a neurologist who diagnosed him with hypotonia and ordered a slew of tests to look for any neurological damage that may have been caused pre or postnatally. His MRI came back normal as did all of the muscular dystrophy bloodwork and tests for other neurologically based disorders. We will have another MRI done next month b/c the neurologist says that the water content on the brain changes dramatically after 1 yr of age and neurological damage can sometimes be noted more clearly then. She, along with his OT and PT, recommended that we see a geneticist. So in August, we met with a geneticist who was very thorough with her interview with us as well as the examination of Landen. She said that RSS is a possible diagnosis. She based this on his head size and shape, his low muscle tone, his 4-5 cafe au lait spots on his body, and his small body. She also felt that his liver was somewhat enlarged and positioned a little " high " . She wants to do an abdominal hepatomegaly ultrasound to see if that is the case. She mentioned that may have to do with RSS, but I have not found any info that states enlarged or high positioned liver as a characteristic. She is also going to do a bone scan and the uniparental disomy. She also ordered a neurofibromatosis, subtelomere fish, peroxisomal screen, ALT, and AST. I am in the process of researching what each of these tests look for. This is the one my husband and I have done, too. So in Ocotber, we will meet with both the geneticist and neurologist to go over test results. As far as Landen's height/weight/head circ . . . He has been in the 10-25th% since he was born, but at about 10 mo, he has not grown much and I think if I understand the growth curve correctly, I could say that he has fallen off the chart for his weight. At this time he is still on the 50% for his height. His head size has always been 90-95%. So this is why we feel we are at the beginning stages of a diagnosis. We are also not ruling out a prenatal trauma due to the car accident that may have caused lack of oxygen, which would explain the low muscle tone. Thankfully, cognitively and behaviorally, Landen is in the normal range. Presently, Landen receives 2 hrs of PT/week and 2 hrs OT/month. He is wearing prism-lensed glasses for low muscle tone in his eyes which was prescribed by a developmental optometrist. He just got fitted this week for SMO's(ankle braces) to support his ankle and foot muscle to encourage weight bearing and hopefully walking. Our big concerns are his low muscle tone and his recent lack of growth. If I understand correctly from reading some of the RSS posts, it seems that it can be typical for growth to stop at about this age. I guess I don't want to be " borrowing trouble " by thinking that he has RSS when he doesn't, but I also don't want to miss an intervention that we could be doing. As you can see, this has been a long road and I'm sorry for the length of this post. I hesitated after my initial post about 1 month ago to expand, because it seemed like such a long story to share. Thanks for taking the time to read this and any input you may have! Cheryl > > I've posted some pictures of our little guy, Landen who is now 13 > > months old. We are in the beginning stages of a possible RSS > > diagnoses. I know your input is subjective, but very valuable!!! > If > > anyone has time, please check out the pics posted under " Landen " > and > > give me your thots? What do you think? Does he have the " RSS > > Look? " He is in the 3rd% for weight and 95% for head size. He > has > > been wearing the same clothes (6-9mo) since March! And he eats > like a > > machine! His most significant issue right now is low muscle > tone. > > We will have some testing done (through our geneticist) in October- > > bone scan, ultrasound on stomach/liver, bloodwork-and hope to have > > some more answers then. Thanks for all your initial feedback when > I > > posted about a month ago. You all are so encouraging! > > Cheryl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2004 Report Share Posted September 18, 2004 Hi Cheryl Wow you have been through a lot! I am not sure how old your son is, but I'm guessing less than a year. You can correct me if I'm wrong. I wanted to tell you about a friend of mine. Her granddaughter had all of what you described in the beginning of your email. She had all the head issues, not using the right side etc. etc. She wore the helmut and had all the tests. She has not had any growth issues though, and no hypotonia has been a concern. But I wanted to tell you (her mom by the way, did not have any accidents)........that this little girl is 4 years old now and just started kindergarten. She is as bright as a button, in fact she is reading.....she is delightful and very bright and you would never know that she had the issues with her head at such a tender age. If I can provide a little bit of comfort in your long journey, I hope I can. Debby Re: Does he have the RSS look? > and all, > Here is Landen's " long " story . . . Landen was born at 38wks > gestation and weighed 7lb4oz. Prenatally, there were no concerns in > his growth and the only problem experienced was a car accident when I > was 7 months pregnant. We were rear-ended by a semi in Chicago on > the freeway. I had one huge contraction and then continued to have > labor type (but not labor inducing) contractions until he was born > which was about 10 weeks later. His birth was a normal vaginal non- > medicated delivery with no incidence. At about 2 weeks of age, we > noticed a significant lump on the top right front of his skull. > Within 1 month, it seemed to get bigger and bigger and the opposite > side on the back of his skull completely flattened out. After seeing > several doctors, he was diagnosed with torticollis (short neck > muscle) that was supposedly not allowing his head to turn to the > right and therefore cause the flattening of the skull as well as the > lump on the front. He wore a cranial moulding helmet for about 3 > months which did a beautiful job of correcting the skull shape. The > neurosurgeon did comment that his ears were rotated and that there > was some assymetry with his ears and cheekbones. He said that this > was caused by the " occipital plagiocephaly " (flattened skull) and > would never be corrected. At that time, we also really began > observing that he did not use his right side much at all and rarely > looked to his right. We had a Physical Therapy evaluation done and > found out that he was 2-3 months behind in his gross motor skills and > the therapist encouraged us to seek a diagnosis for his obvious low > muscle tone. We then went to a neurologist who diagnosed him with > hypotonia and ordered a slew of tests to look for any neurological > damage that may have been caused pre or postnatally. His MRI came > back normal as did all of the muscular dystrophy bloodwork and tests > for other neurologically based disorders. We will have another MRI > done next month b/c the neurologist says that the water content on > the brain changes dramatically after 1 yr of age and neurological > damage can sometimes be noted more clearly then. She, along with his > OT and PT, recommended that we see a geneticist. So in August, we > met with a geneticist who was very thorough with her interview with > us as well as the examination of Landen. She said that RSS is a > possible diagnosis. She based this on his head size and shape, his > low muscle tone, his 4-5 cafe au lait spots on his body, and his > small body. She also felt that his liver was somewhat enlarged and > positioned a little " high " . She wants to do an abdominal > hepatomegaly ultrasound to see if that is the case. She mentioned > that may have to do with RSS, but I have not found any info that > states enlarged or high positioned liver as a characteristic. She is > also going to do a bone scan and the uniparental disomy. She also > ordered a neurofibromatosis, subtelomere fish, peroxisomal screen, > ALT, and AST. I am in the process of researching what each of these > tests look for. This is the one my husband and I have done, too. So > in Ocotber, we will meet with both the geneticist and neurologist to > go over test results. As far as Landen's height/weight/head > circ . . . He has been in the 10-25th% since he was born, but at > about 10 mo, he has not grown much and I think if I understand the > growth curve correctly, I could say that he has fallen off the chart > for his weight. At this time he is still on the 50% for his height. > His head size has always been 90-95%. So this is why we feel we are > at the beginning stages of a diagnosis. We are also not ruling out a > prenatal trauma due to the car accident that may have caused lack of > oxygen, which would explain the low muscle tone. Thankfully, > cognitively and behaviorally, Landen is in the normal range. > Presently, Landen receives 2 hrs of PT/week and 2 hrs OT/month. He > is wearing prism-lensed glasses for low muscle tone in his eyes which > was prescribed by a developmental optometrist. He just got fitted > this week for SMO's(ankle braces) to support his ankle and foot > muscle to encourage weight bearing and hopefully walking. Our big > concerns are his low muscle tone and his recent lack of growth. If I > understand correctly from reading some of the RSS posts, it seems > that it can be typical for growth to stop at about this age. I guess > I don't want to be " borrowing trouble " by thinking that he has RSS > when he doesn't, but I also don't want to miss an intervention that > we could be doing. > As you can see, this has been a long road and I'm sorry for the > length of this post. I hesitated after my initial post about 1 month > ago to expand, because it seemed like such a long story to share. > Thanks for taking the time to read this and any input you may have! > Cheryl > > > > > > > I've posted some pictures of our little guy, Landen who is now 13 > > > months old. We are in the beginning stages of a possible RSS > > > diagnoses. I know your input is subjective, but very > valuable!!! > > If > > > anyone has time, please check out the pics posted under " Landen " > > and > > > give me your thots? What do you think? Does he have the " RSS > > > Look? " He is in the 3rd% for weight and 95% for head size. He > > has > > > been wearing the same clothes (6-9mo) since March! And he eats > > like a > > > machine! His most significant issue right now is low muscle > > tone. > > > We will have some testing done (through our geneticist) in > October- > > > bone scan, ultrasound on stomach/liver, bloodwork-and hope to > have > > > some more answers then. Thanks for all your initial feedback > when > > I > > > posted about a month ago. You all are so encouraging! > > > Cheryl > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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