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rofl! And you worded that so well! I myself wouldn't take RAI if they

told me I had to. I've seen hypoHELL from too much atd's and It ain't

happening again!

Sandy~Houston

On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 09:31:00 -0500

Jae wrote:

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Amen, Jae. However, I am not so trusting in the doctors to medicate me

properly (supported by my experience), and am not convinced that I will do

so well on thyroid hormone replacement. Since I don't want to suffer from

other health problems that can crop up after having RAI, I would opt for

surgery if things got bad enough for me, but I'm not eager to do that given

the risks involved. For these reasons, the medication (or herbal route)

seems the best option.

At 10:31 AM 10/10/2003, you wrote:

>...

>Now on ATDs, you at least have some control. You can reduce your dose

>of ATDs and at least have a life. But post-RAI, you are at the man's

>mercy.

>

>For me, I will be watching my doctor carefully during my first two

>years on ATDs and I am going to ask myself if I can trust him to keep

>me out of hypo post-RAI.

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AMEN!!!

Terry

>

> Reply-To: graves_support

> Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2003 09:31:00 -0500

> To: graves_support

> Subject: Is 'stupid' normal?

>

>

> On Thursday, October 9, 2003, at 10:02 PM, LISAREYNOLDS64@...

> wrote:

>>

>> The biggest problem may be finding a doctor who will properly treat

>> your

>> hypothyroidism and not leave you floundering in a hypothyroid state

>> for years to

>> come.

>

> This, to me, is one of the most compelling questions (and, mind you, I

> am not anti-RAI).

>

> What we are talking about here is some dude looking at a range of

> numbers and deciding -- utterly without regard to whether his patient

> has become slow, fat, and stupid -- what's best for the little woman

> (usually) planted in front of his desk.

>

> Hey, if she is slow and stupid, well then he'll say she is just getting

> old.

>

> If she is fat, well then he'll say she is just getting old. Or lazy.

>

> But my guess is that one thing he will never ever do is say that she

> needs more synthroid or that she needs to come up out of the low normal

> range.

>

> Now on ATDs, you at least have some control. You can reduce your dose

> of ATDs and at least have a life. But post-RAI, you are at the man's

> mercy.

>

> For me, I will be watching my doctor carefully during my first two

> years on ATDs and I am going to ask myself if I can trust him to keep

> me out of hypo post-RAI.

>

> I'm going to ask myself if he will do it for the rest of my life. I'm

> going to wonder if he won't -- or can't -- who will? Because one thing

> we know absolutely: After RAI everything from your basic emotional

> state to your waistline depends entirely on the dose in those little

> pills. And the dose depends on whether that man in the white coat

> thinks " stupid " is just your normal state.

> Jae

>

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Jae, You've brought up some very valid points from 's post, and i

didn't even realize that you weren't opposed to RAI till I saw you say

it. I would however tell you, don't let 2 yrs be a mark etched in

stone. I'm there, and I'm doing better on the drugs, than I think I'd

have done on RAI. I was never offered surgery, but don't think it's

an option for me either.

So far these little pills with a dr who isn't brain dead are working

good. I know that as long as it works and I can keep up with the dr,

no reason for me to put a time limit on anything.

You almost sound like us! lol. :-)

Sandy~Houston

On Fri, 10 Oct 2003 09:31:00 -0500

Jae wrote:

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> Jae, You've brought up some very valid points from 's post, and i

> didn't even realize that you weren't opposed to RAI till I saw you say

> it. I would however tell you, don't let 2 yrs be a mark etched in

> stone. 

See my next post about my labs. I seem to be in the mid-normal ft4

range after just 6 weeks or so. Now that did NOT seem so difficult to

achieve and I feel fine (although life DOES seem a tad slower -- maybe

I should say calmer -- now :-) I don't FEEL stupid... yet.

I'm keeping RAI as an option for a couple reasons: 1. goiter, mine is

not large but since the doc pointed it out I can't take my eyes off it.

I don't think it has grown but RAI does reduce goiter, and, 2. I still

don't know what the future will hold. Will I be able to find a

maintenance dose that easily keeps me euthyroid? If not, RAI will be a

consideration.

But I am also against RAI for me because I have trace lid lag AND

because I had Cushing's Syndrome which obviously " causes " Graves (in

people predisposed yadda yadda) but I have not yet been able to find

any study that tells whether ex-Cushing's patients who now have Graves

can become euthyroid after a course of ATDs. I think " why not " ? After

you pump your body up with enough steroids to cause Cushing's, why

isn't it obvious that there will be a hormone/antibody problem and why

shouldn't it go away after treatment? Probably wishful thinking.

Jae

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