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Hi ,

First a long-distance hug, and my best hopes for the best possible outcome.

It seems providential that you had appendicitis when you did--otherwise, you

wouldn't have known about this little tumor and it might, from the sounds of

things, have spread. Let's hope getting the appendix out of the way took

care of all of it!

Doing surgery seems like an awfully invasive way to determine if you have

more of the same in your bowel--isn't there any other way to test?

I find it interesting about the bp, as well--I'm not exactly sure why you

were thinking of me, perhaps because I posted before trying to figure out

the relationship between bp and GD? Mine's always been low, except when I

get hypO it rises like a rocket. As does my cholesterol level, and I always

thought those two related but then there are all those people who are hyper

with high bp.

Finally, I strongly would suggest looking into some alternative meds for

this as well. I don't know if it applies, but anecdotally, my husband had a

prostate cancer patient, and elderly man, who with Chinese herbs had his (I

think it's PSA but don't quote me here) results reverse over time. He

ultimately did pass of heart failure, but after 10 years when the prostrate

cancer went from severe to much, much better. Anyway, it seems to me that

something in the bowel if it's there at all, would be responsive to some

herbal meds treatment. And if it's not there, the one blessing of Chinese

herbs is they don't tend to do any harm.

More hugs,

Terry

>

> Reply-To: graves_support

> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:10:12 -0600

> To: <graves_support >

> Subject: bad news from B

>

> Greetings all,

>

> Well.

>

> I had my appendix out on Oct. 29th and found out yesterday that I have a rare

> form of cancer. The pathology report found a pea size carcinoid tumor in the

> appendix. Happily (if there is such a thing) the size, shape, and type of

> tumor all indicate that the odds are overwhelmingly (like 98%) that the

> carcinoid tumor is limited to the appendix and now gone.

>

> The tumor is also known as a neuroendocrine tumor!!! It produces seratonin

> and sometimes can create havoc in the body as the seratonin and other hormonal

> imbalances begin to affect all body systems.

>

> I'm writing for a couple of reasons (in addition to the great support).

> First, does anyone know anything about these tumors? I'mtrying to get a

> handle on the carcinoid's relationship to the endocrine system.

>

> Second, and I'm thinking specifically of Terry here, one of the effects of

> these type of neuroendocrine tumors or carcinoids is high blood pressure.

> We've had soem discussions of how some of us have had high blood pressure

> post-thyroid problems. Mine is now back to 100/60 after the appendix (and

> thus, the carcinoid tumor) was removed. THree weeks ago my BP was 140/90.

>

> Anyway, what I have is extremely rare and not a death toll (hoepfully there's

> a collective internet sigh of relief, now). If it is isolated to the

> appendix, then the drama's done. If not, I'll have more surgery to remove

> anything else. THe oncologist will decide next week if I should have surgery

> to see if there's more in the small bowel or if we're just going to go wtih

> the odds and say I'm fine. THe worst case scenario is if the cancer moves

> into the liver, which is fatal. That said, I show no symptoms of that (my

> tumor was small enough that they're calling it incidental) and even if that

> happens, the illness is glacial in speed and people can live 10-20 years with

> the cancer. Still. I'm leaning toward the 'I'm fine " scenario, as 10 - 20

> years is a blip when you have a 9 month old baby who needs to be steered

> through his mid-30's, minimum, thank you!

>

> I'll soak up all the prayers and good wishes!!

>

> B

>

>

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Oh my gosh, ! You're so calm, I'd be freaking out big time!

I'm glad they found it and I'm praying that it was just in the appendix! How

very interesting about the neuroendocrine tumors. Hadn't heard of such a

thing. makes you wonder if it's somehow all connected, doesn't it? I hope

you get some more info on this from the doctors.

I'm glad that the outcome looks good! What a relief there! When do you find

out if it was isolated to the appendix?

Sending lots of prayers and good wishes! Take care of yourself and keep us

updated!

Hugs to you and all the kids!

bad news from B

> Greetings all,

>

> Well.

>

> I had my appendix out on Oct. 29th and found out yesterday that I have a

rare form of cancer. The pathology report found a pea size carcinoid tumor

in the appendix. Happily (if there is such a thing) the size, shape, and

type of tumor all indicate that the odds are overwhelmingly (like 98%) that

the carcinoid tumor is limited to the appendix and now gone.

>

> The tumor is also known as a neuroendocrine tumor!!! It produces

seratonin and sometimes can create havoc in the body as the seratonin and

other hormonal imbalances begin to affect all body systems.

>

> I'm writing for a couple of reasons (in addition to the great support).

First, does anyone know anything about these tumors? I'mtrying to get a

handle on the carcinoid's relationship to the endocrine system.

>

> Second, and I'm thinking specifically of Terry here, one of the effects of

these type of neuroendocrine tumors or carcinoids is high blood pressure.

We've had soem discussions of how some of us have had high blood pressure

post-thyroid problems. Mine is now back to 100/60 after the appendix (and

thus, the carcinoid tumor) was removed. THree weeks ago my BP was 140/90.

>

> Anyway, what I have is extremely rare and not a death toll (hoepfully

there's a collective internet sigh of relief, now). If it is isolated to

the appendix, then the drama's done. If not, I'll have more surgery to

remove anything else. THe oncologist will decide next week if I should have

surgery to see if there's more in the small bowel or if we're just going to

go wtih the odds and say I'm fine. THe worst case scenario is if the cancer

moves into the liver, which is fatal. That said, I show no symptoms of that

(my tumor was small enough that they're calling it incidental) and even if

that happens, the illness is glacial in speed and people can live 10-20

years with the cancer. Still. I'm leaning toward the 'I'm fine " scenario,

as 10 - 20 years is a blip when you have a 9 month old baby who needs to be

steered through his mid-30's, minimum, thank you!

>

> I'll soak up all the prayers and good wishes!!

>

> B

>

>

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I am so glad that they removed the cancer. Hopefully that is the end of it.

I am sending good wishes your way. Your calm optimism is the best attitude

you can have. Please let us know how you're doing.

Hugs,

At 11:10 AM 11/11/2003, you wrote:

>Greetings all,

>

>Well.

>

>I had my appendix out on Oct. 29th and found out yesterday that I have a

>rare form of cancer. The pathology report found a pea size carcinoid

>tumor in the appendix. Happily (if there is such a thing) the size,

>shape, and type of tumor all indicate that the odds are overwhelmingly

>(like 98%) that the carcinoid tumor is limited to the appendix and now gone.

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My thoughts and prayers will be with you and your family as your go forward in

this unanticipated situation. I guess in a way it's a blessing that your

appendix acted up, else you wouldn't have known about this tumor in it. Sounds

like your situation is heading in a positive direction, and I'll pray that that

is the course it keeps. Please keep us all posted my dear.

the other

wrote:

Greetings all,

Well.

I had my appendix out on Oct. 29th and found out yesterday that I have a rare

form of cancer. The pathology report found a pea size carcinoid tumor in the

appendix. Happily (if there is such a thing) the size, shape, and type of tumor

all indicate that the odds are overwhelmingly (like 98%) that the carcinoid

tumor is limited to the appendix and now gone.

" Grief can take care of itself, but to get the full value of a joy you must have

somebody to divide it with. "

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Hi B,

How wonderful that they found this in the biopsy from your appendix.

Incidental tumors are generally always confined. Your doctor can run a follow-up

serotonin level to see if you're secreting excess amounts. Often, the levels of

catecholamines, epinephrine and norepinephrine are high, and elevated levels

mimic symptoms of thyroid hormone excess. Hope you heard my big sigh of relief

when you mentioned it was an incdidentaloma. Sounds like your appendix acting up

was a providential occurrence. Best, Elaine

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Hi, ,

Just wanted to send my best wishes in dealing with this latest wrinkle.

What " luck " that, in addition to your immune system messing with your

endocrine system, you got a tumor that messes with it as well. Just what

the doctor ordered - not!! With that little bit of stealth mischeif

removed, hopefully life gets better from here.

Best,

Jill

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