Guest guest Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 Hi, I've generally been a lurker here for the last year. My son Conor who will be 9 in October was diagnosed with RSS about 15 months ago and started GH a year ago. He was born 16 weeks prematurely and has/had a number of medical/developmental problems due to that as well. Conor has ADHD and is on medication and is doing well with that. He also has mild Cerebral Palsey from 2 brain hemorrages he had at birth -- he can run just not fast and not well. Anyway, Conor's had a tough summer and I've been wanting to write here to see if I can get some advice. I had to pull Conor out of his camp this summer due to teasing and bullying. He was in an expensive/highly respected camp that I chose because it focused on art and academics and there would be kids with similar interests to his. Obviously he's small for his grade (he's going into 3rd grade -- we held him back a year before Kindy) and his social and physical skills are not great. After a week at the camp Conor finally broke down one night and told us he didn't want to go back. Apparently a group of boys his age were teasing him and told him he looked like a freak and was weird -- then they would shove him in a locker and lock him in there every single day. I was devastated. Conor is doing okay now, but he's terrified to go back to school in two weeks. (He also has anxiety issues). He's been teased since he was 5 years old for his size, looks and social skill problems. His " different " head has become more prominent as he gets older. He has a very small mouth and large front teeth, big ears and a triangular shaped head. He's been teased alot about this and I just don't know how to help him with the teasing. Conor tends to be lured into his teasing as he can never just let something go -- he always goes back for more. I've tried to teach him to walk away/ignore the teasing and to always build his confidence at home, but its not helping. He so desperately wants EVERYONE to like him. What do you tell your children? Do they know they look different because of RSS? I've never told Conor that -- I don't want him to become more self conscious. Do your kids experience teasing. Any tricks for that? Any advice would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 - Oh how my heart aches for Conor (and you too.) Doesn't it just makes you want to go up to the bully and put him in a headlock and torture him a little? ) I guess I don't have any brilliant ideas and am amazed at Conors strength of character to try and befriend the bully. What an amazing little guy with a huge heart! I think if it were me in the same situation I would work really hard on trying to help him develop a few solid friends with similar interests. I would probably focus on arranging some fun casual get togethers where another child can get to know Conor better. I think that I would also call a therapist (we have two that work with the foster children that we care for). They always seem to have some really good practical ideas and sometimes can be very creative with their solutions. I will pray that God gives you wisdom and strength on how to best handle this situation! Blessings (Hannah's Mom 3 yo) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 I have no advice for you on this one. We too are going through some of the same issues. Thankfully there seems to be small reprieves during this past school year. One thing I could never understand was Adam seeking out one of the worst bullies to be his friend. I guess it's a coping mechanism......some days he'd come home and tell me all about the funny things this kid had done (all inappropriate, within a classroom........calling out and such) and how much Adam had laughed in class over this idiot. But then this nut could just as easily decide to spit in Adam's snack container as he walked by (had to re stock his stash twice this year for that stupid trick). Anyway, my heart just melts for you, as another mom sitting here dreading the return to school.........sigh.........I so understand how much you hurt too! I hope someone has some good answers. The only one I tried that had any hope of success was therapy. Of course Adam refused to speak during it (well he'd talk about things on this lady's wall or her carpet or her computer but not the bullying) that she finally told us not to come back. Ugh! Debby Re: Teasing > Hi, I've generally been a lurker here for the last year. My son Conor who > will be 9 in October was diagnosed with RSS about 15 months ago and started GH a > year ago. He was born 16 weeks prematurely and has/had a number of > medical/developmental problems due to that as well. Conor has ADHD and is on > medication and is doing well with that. He also has mild Cerebral Palsey from 2 brain > hemorrages he had at birth -- he can run just not fast and not well. > > Anyway, Conor's had a tough summer and I've been wanting to write here to see > if I can get some advice. I had to pull Conor out of his camp this summer > due to teasing and bullying. He was in an expensive/highly respected camp that > I chose because it focused on art and academics and there would be kids with > similar interests to his. Obviously he's small for his grade (he's going into > 3rd grade -- we held him back a year before Kindy) and his social and physical > skills are not great. After a week at the camp Conor finally broke down one > night and told us he didn't want to go back. Apparently a group of boys his > age were teasing him and told him he looked like a freak and was weird -- then > they would shove him in a locker and lock him in there every single day. I > was devastated. Conor is doing okay now, but he's terrified to go back to > school in two weeks. (He also has anxiety issues). > > He's been teased since he was 5 years old for his size, looks and social > skill problems. His " different " head has become more prominent as he gets older. > He has a very small mouth and large front teeth, big ears and a triangular > shaped head. He's been teased alot about this and I just don't know how to help > him with the teasing. Conor tends to be lured into his teasing as he can > never just let something go -- he always goes back for more. I've tried to teach > him to walk away/ignore the teasing and to always build his confidence at > home, but its not helping. He so desperately wants EVERYONE to like him. > > What do you tell your children? Do they know they look different because of > RSS? I've never told Conor that -- I don't want him to become more self > conscious. Do your kids experience teasing. Any tricks for that? Any advice > would be appreciated. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 Hi , I'm so sorry this is happening to your son! First, I want to say that kids DO know they are different. I was aware of the fact that I wasn't physically homogenous with my peers far, far before the age of 9 (I think I was three or four when I first had the realization that I didn't look like everyone else). I think sometimes kids pick up on a lot more than adults sometimes give them credit for (and I'm just as guilty of this as everyone else now that I'm an adult). I, too, would suggest therapy. I saw a psychologist on and off through my middle and high school years. This REALLY helped me out a lot with some of the issues I had about not physically fitting in. In fact, I know high school would have been a lot harder for me if I hadn't had a " safe " place to go outside of my house and school to discuss whatever was bothering me. Also, I would suggest finding an activity that he is good at and really likes and encouraging him to pursue that. I did a lot of things growing up (I was a serial " joiner " for quite some time ), but the activities that I was good at really helped bolster my confidence. In addition to that, doing those activities also helped my social skills because it gave me a refrence point to use when bonding with other kids. All that said, I do think that it is harder for boys at that age than it is girls. I'm also sorry that I only have my experience to offer and not a magic wand. But, here's to hoping that things get better for you son and every other kid on the list who is being picked on!!! ~Hillary 22, RSS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2004 Report Share Posted August 25, 2004 I'm a lurker most of the time too. My daughter has also experienced some teasing for her size.She is 5 and very aware of Silver and her differences. I have four kids (well, two of them are grown) four grandkids and have worked with preschool and schoolage kids most of my adult life. What I have to say may not be very PC, but it's what I have observed. Kids DO NOT get teased because they are outwardly different. That is only what the teaser focuses on, the hot button issue if you will. Kids get teased because they do not know how to interact well with their peers according to the kid social rules.While ignoring and walking away are good techniques they only work if you can carry them off with an air of bored unconcern. When I taught my daughter that she could say " Whatever " or " yeah, right " in a voice dripping with sarcasm, the teasing came quickly to a near standstill. We practiced, complete with body posture and the proper rolling of the eyes. Social skills can be taught, the earlier the better. How to enter a game already being played by a group of children, how to negotiate for roles and rules, etc. Children have their own social subgroup with it's own unique culture. As much as we want children to behave nicely and as much as we want to intervene when our children are treated badly by their peers sometimes our rescuing (going to the teacher etc) can make the situation worse. Of course if our child is in actual danger or severly frightened or becoming seriously depressed it is what we must do. I believe it is our job to teach our children respect care and concern for others, unfortunatly we live in a world where intentionally or neglectfully fewer and fewer children are being taught the values of brotherhood or are held accountable for their actions. I think our children need to know how to handle ugly social situations on their own in a way that is effective in the social world they must perforce move in. I think when they can manage for themselves they are empowered. I try as much as possible to be a coach rather than a gaurdian angel. Just my two cents. Re: Teasing Hi, I've generally been a lurker here for the last year. My son Conor who will be 9 in October was diagnosed with RSS about 15 months ago and started GH a year ago. He was born 16 weeks prematurely and has/had a number of medical/developmental problems due to that as well. Conor has ADHD and is on medication and is doing well with that. He also has mild Cerebral Palsey from 2 brain hemorrages he had at birth -- he can run just not fast and not well. Anyway, Conor's had a tough summer and I've been wanting to write here to see if I can get some advice. I had to pull Conor out of his camp this summer due to teasing and bullying. He was in an expensive/highly respected camp that I chose because it focused on art and academics and there would be kids with similar interests to his. Obviously he's small for his grade (he's going into 3rd grade -- we held him back a year before Kindy) and his social and physical skills are not great. After a week at the camp Conor finally broke down one night and told us he didn't want to go back. Apparently a group of boys his age were teasing him and told him he looked like a freak and was weird -- then they would shove him in a locker and lock him in there every single day. I was devastated. Conor is doing okay now, but he's terrified to go back to school in two weeks. (He also has anxiety issues). He's been teased since he was 5 years old for his size, looks and social skill problems. His " different " head has become more prominent as he gets older. He has a very small mouth and large front teeth, big ears and a triangular shaped head. He's been teased alot about this and I just don't know how to help him with the teasing. Conor tends to be lured into his teasing as he can never just let something go -- he always goes back for more. I've tried to teach him to walk away/ignore the teasing and to always build his confidence at home, but its not helping. He so desperately wants EVERYONE to like him. What do you tell your children? Do they know they look different because of RSS? I've never told Conor that -- I don't want him to become more self conscious. Do your kids experience teasing. Any tricks for that? Any advice would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2004 Report Share Posted August 26, 2004 Thanks to everyone for their outpouring of support about Conor's teasing. It really helps. Conor was actually declassified this year since they said he was well above or at grade level in academics. His social skills group leader also released him since he said Conor always seemed to have great answers for his own problems -- the problem is he can't translate them into the real world. We sent him to a private social skills group as well and found that he had a hard time translating what he'd learned there too. We continue to work with him on this. As soon as the camp incident occurred I went straight to the school district and they agreed immediately to continue his social work services. Instead of group he's going to have one-on-one consultation with the social worker to talk about any bullying issues. I'm the Vice President of his school's PTA this year, so I'll have good contact with the teacher and administration. I'll definately be keeping my eye on things. Conor's been participating in drama and cartooning classes -- which really gives him an outlet for his creativity and interests, but still no friends from there yet. He made some good friends in school this year, but one of them turned on him and started to get the whole class and his group of friends to tease him -- which mostly occurred on the playground. This kid was basically very jealous that Conor had made other friends. The teacher was very instrumental in helping out with this. Despite that, Conor still seeks this kid out on a regular basis. Another blow -- his best friend got left back last year, so they won't even be in the same school next year, let alone the same class. I do try to arrange play dates for him as much as possible. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that he'll have some good classmates this year. Thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2004 Report Share Posted August 26, 2004 , I couldn't believe the similarities in our kids when I read your post, except for one thing - my son doesn't get teased or bullied. My son will be 11 in October, was 12 weeks premature (with a number of medical problems), was just diagnosed with RSS 13 months ago, has been on GH for 3 years, has ADHD, a lot of anxiety, on medication, & can not run as fast as kids his age. also has the same features you described about Conor that make him get teased. You said Conor was small for his grade, but you didn't say how small. is in 5th grade (school started 2 weeks ago here in Florida) and is 50.25 " and 48 lbs. He has always been the smallest kid in his class. In school when his class plays a sport in which teams need to be picked, he is often picked last because he is not a fast runner. This doesn't seem to bother him too much though. also has difficulties with social skills at times, but he seems to be better with them in certain situations. Although is immature for his age, after reading your post, I called him over to the computer & asked him if he was ever teased or bullied. He said no at first, but then after I told him about your son, he said he had a boy at Cub Scout Camp this summer tease him. I asked him what he did & he said he ignored him. Then I asked him if he had any advice for Conor, and he absolutely shocked me with his adult response! He asked if Conor had a guidance counselor at his school. He said he should go talk to the counselor, because he/ she could help him with his anxiety & maybe stop the teasing. Then he said, " Or he should talk to a therapist. " This was without seeing the responses that other people have made to you. Almost made me cry, because I realize my little kid is growing up! knows he looks different and has more medical problems due to his preamturity & RSS, and although he sometimes asks why he has to be so different, I think he is generally ok with it. I forgot to mention that for the past month, he has also been wearing a back brace for kyphosis/scoliosis (something you think he would be teased for & not want to wear). He is a trooper with this. He hasn't once said anything about feeling self- conscous about wearing it (much better than I would handle this if I had to wear one). I think it is important for Conor to learn coping skills when he is teased & bullied (ignoring, maybe having a few comeback comments ready, etc.) Obviously a therapist/ counselor could help with this, but so could you. Practice role playing teasing/bullying situations, buy a book that you can sit down & read to him, etc. I wish you & Conor luck for the coming school year. If you'd like to email me privately, feel free to do so at capuano_k@.... Maybe your son would like to email my son as kind of a penpal. Kim C. > Hi, I've generally been a lurker here for the last year. My son Conor who > will be 9 in October was diagnosed with RSS about 15 months ago and started GH a > year ago. He was born 16 weeks prematurely and has/had a number of > medical/developmental problems due to that as well. Conor has ADHD and is on > medication and is doing well with that. He also has mild Cerebral Palsey from 2 brain > hemorrages he had at birth -- he can run just not fast and not well. > > Anyway, Conor's had a tough summer and I've been wanting to write here to see > if I can get some advice. I had to pull Conor out of his camp this summer > due to teasing and bullying. He was in an expensive/highly respected camp that > I chose because it focused on art and academics and there would be kids with > similar interests to his. Obviously he's small for his grade (he's going into > 3rd grade -- we held him back a year before Kindy) and his social and physical > skills are not great. After a week at the camp Conor finally broke down one > night and told us he didn't want to go back. Apparently a group of boys his > age were teasing him and told him he looked like a freak and was weird -- then > they would shove him in a locker and lock him in there every single day. I > was devastated. Conor is doing okay now, but he's terrified to go back to > school in two weeks. (He also has anxiety issues). > > He's been teased since he was 5 years old for his size, looks and social > skill problems. His " different " head has become more prominent as he gets older. > He has a very small mouth and large front teeth, big ears and a triangular > shaped head. He's been teased alot about this and I just don't know how to help > him with the teasing. Conor tends to be lured into his teasing as he can > never just let something go -- he always goes back for more. I've tried to teach > him to walk away/ignore the teasing and to always build his confidence at > home, but its not helping. He so desperately wants EVERYONE to like him. > > What do you tell your children? Do they know they look different because of > RSS? I've never told Conor that -- I don't want him to become more self > conscious. Do your kids experience teasing. Any tricks for that? Any advice > would be appreciated. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2004 Report Share Posted August 26, 2004 Hi all, I just wanted to suggest a book for parents of girls. It is called Odd Girl Out by . I really feel for Connor as my son will be three in October and I worry a lot. If anyone knows of a similar book relating to boys I would love to know about it. , Jonah's mom Re: Teasing > Hi , > I'm so sorry this is happening to your son! First, I want to say that > kids DO know they are different. I was aware of the fact that I > wasn't physically homogenous with my peers far, far before the age of > 9 (I think I was three or four when I first had the realization that I > didn't look like everyone else). I think sometimes kids pick up on a > lot more than adults sometimes give them credit for (and I'm just as > guilty of this as everyone else now that I'm an adult). I, too, would > suggest therapy. I saw a psychologist on and off through my middle > and high school years. This REALLY helped me out a lot with some of > the issues I had about not physically fitting in. In fact, I know > high school would have been a lot harder for me if I hadn't had a > " safe " place to go outside of my house and school to discuss whatever > was bothering me. Also, I would suggest finding an activity that he > is good at and really likes and encouraging him to pursue that. I did > a lot of things growing up (I was a serial " joiner " for quite some > time ), but the activities that I was good at really helped bolster > my confidence. In addition to that, doing those activities also > helped my social skills because it gave me a refrence point to use > when bonding with other kids. All that said, I do think that it is > harder for boys at that age than it is girls. I'm also sorry that I > only have my experience to offer and not a magic wand. But, here's to > hoping that things get better for you son and every other kid on the > list who is being picked on!!! > > ~Hillary > 22, RSS > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2004 Report Share Posted August 27, 2004 I have used that approach of talking to the bully myself as well. It has worked to a degree -- with the kids I know. If the parents of the bully won't step up, then you need to do it yourself sometimes. I have a funny story about one bully in our neighborhood who is much older than Conor. This kid is 4 years older than him and also has ADD. He's been bullied a lot himself and now bullies all the little kids in the neighborhood. However I noticed a big change in the kid's approach to Conor when he was in 1st grade. The bully was in 4th grade and he saw that Conor had lost a tooth -- then Conor told him he'd already lost 8. Suddenly this kid's eyes grew wide with amazement -- apparently he hadn't lost any yet. All taunts of " baby " and " twerp " from him stopped after that. It never ceases to surprise me the things that kids hold in high esteem -- like loosing teeth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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