Re: Diet Infringement and Help

[Guest guest]

Jeneane -

Check out the Kirkman's lab site www.kirkmanlabs.com they have

articles about their product Enzyme Aide - we are actually using that

with every meal now - even though our son is GFCF - our doctor Dr.

Jerry Kartzinel of the Good News Doctor Foundation - recommended it.

The Enzyme aide helps with infractions - we give it to him as soon as

he gets his hands on forbidden foods and it seems to shorten the

reaction pattern. Our reaction patern without enzymes is about 3

weeks in lenght and goes like this - eats forbidden food - goes into

his own world - gets eczema, tantrums, looses language - starts to

show signs of withdrawal, night waking and general bad mood - then

gets sick with fever and then he is back with us. This pattern

without enzymes takes three weeks - with enzymes it takes about a

week...

Hope that helps.

Moira

mom to Vico (4 ASD) and Culzean (14 months)

[Guest guest]

If your child is GFCF and gets something he isn't supposed to have,

the best things I know of are 1) give him an appropriate enzyme as

soon as you know, although I don't know if this would be affective

after 90 minutes because the food would be out of the stomach by

then, 2) some people have successfully lessened the effects or nulled

them by giving Pepcid AC from a local store. You wouldn't want to use

this regularly, but you can keep a bottle of that in the house for

emergencies. This has been shown to work with autists as well as

others. I searched for an hour looking for reference I saw that said

Pepcid AC was used successfull, but haven't found it yet. sorry.

I just posted a question to Devin Houston who makes Peptizyde and

formulated SerenAid, and received this answer. Enzymes are probably

good for the 90 minutes to 2 hours in the stomach, but not much after

that. If you use an enzyme for inplanned infractions after the fact,

mix it in liquid and drink for maximum absorption, instead of

swallowing the capsule. Pepcid AC is probably good only at the time

of infraction as it takes about 40 minutes to have the effect it is

going to have of increasing the stomach pH and thereby suppressing

the activation of pepsin; and the pepsin in the stomach will have

already begun and done the breakdown work.

The idea of these is to stop the opiate peptides from forming, and

thereby lessen symptoms as much as possible. If the infraction is

planned, then you can go ahead and give Pepcid AC or enzymes to

prevent the effect altogether - or lessen the effect. One mom said

she gave Peptizyde in liquid 40 minutes after she found out and there

was no reaction, whereas she usually sees a very pronounced one.

Someone else mentioned epsom salts and something else. Could that

person explain how these work? I haven't heard about them.

Hope this helps and thanks,

.

[Guest guest]

Re PepicdAC, it can be used successfully long after the initial

infringement.

I posted the research probably over a year ago, and there's been

further discussion on a medical list. Apparently, Pepcid doesn't

work in the stomach (regrading gfcf accidents), but blocks the

reaction in the brain. So the opiates (or allergens or whatever,

depending upon one's theory) form, but pepcid blocks the receptors.

When it wears off, another tablet can be given. The last time we had

a major reaction, I found that Ian needed a tablet daily for three

days before the reaction stopped resurfacing.

So you can try it to stop a reaction even days after the original

infringement.

As I recall, there was a paper posted about some people using

PepcidAC on a daily basis because it also seems to increase

secretin. The paper commented on possible problems with prolonged,

daily usage.

On the Epsom salt baths, that relates to the inability of our kids to

detox well (the PST issue) and (I think) low magnesium, but I must

leave the explanation to the PST experts on the list.

....Pepcid AC is probably good only at the time

> of infraction as it takes about 40 minutes to have the effect it is

> going to have of increasing the stomach pH and thereby suppressing

> the activation of pepsin; and the pepsin in the stomach will have

> already begun and done the breakdown work.

>

> The idea of these is to stop the opiate peptides from forming, and

> thereby lessen symptoms as much as possible. If the infraction is

> planned, then you can go ahead and give Pepcid AC or enzymes to

> prevent the effect altogether - or lessen the effect. One mom said

> she gave Peptizyde in liquid 40 minutes after she found out and

there

> was no reaction, whereas she usually sees a very pronounced one.

>

> Someone else mentioned epsom salts and something else. Could that

> person explain how these work? I haven't heard about them.

[Guest guest]

,

Thank you so much for posting! That clears up an inconsistency I had.

Dr. Houston's comments on Pepcid AC changing the stomach acid would

be correct as far as the stomach is concerned, however I was pretty

sure the research I read (and couldn't find) was saying ASD kids were

taking it far past the 90 minute time the food would be in the

stomach. You are saying that the Pepcid AC works to prevent the

opiates in the brain. My impression was that it was pretty effective.

Now it all makes sense. I was having a hard time seeing how enzymes

would be of much help if the peptides were already in the blood

stream.

Under these conditions, it seems like Pepcid AC would be a much

better choice than enzymes for unintentional infractions. Thanks for

the other info too.

.

> ...Pepcid AC is probably good only at the time

> > of infraction as it takes about 40 minutes to have the effect it

is

> > going to have of increasing the stomach pH and thereby

suppressing

> > the activation of pepsin; and the pepsin in the stomach will have

> > already begun and done the breakdown work.

> >

> > The idea of these is to stop the opiate peptides from forming,

and

> > thereby lessen symptoms as much as possible. If the infraction is

> > planned, then you can go ahead and give Pepcid AC or enzymes to

> > prevent the effect altogether - or lessen the effect. One mom

said

> > she gave Peptizyde in liquid 40 minutes after she found out and

> there

> > was no reaction, whereas she usually sees a very pronounced one.

> >

> > Someone else mentioned epsom salts and something else. Could that

> > person explain how these work? I haven't heard about them.