Re: OT: Question about enzymes

[Guest guest]

Hi, hope you vacation goes well.

I have not used EnzymAid but this is what I have heard from others:

Maybe. LOL.

Several parents have said they saw no reaction with hidden or unknown

contaminants with EnzymAid. But because they didn't know if there

actually were any contaminants - they can't say for sure. But in

those " trace " amounts, it might be fine. As with everything, it will

depends on the individual and how sensitive they are to the food. It

seems to work well with GFCF food.

I would be very hesistant about a piece of bread, though, because it

is not recommended for this (by the manufacturer). I know about 5

stories from people who said EnzymAid was not effective on an out-

right gluten/casein food such as a piece of bread, crackers, or

cookie. Of course, it is up to you. You know your child's tolerances

best.

Just a caution: Since EnzymAid comes in veggie capsules, you will

have much better success if you mix the contents with food or liquid

before eating. If your daughter swallows capsules, allow about 30

minutes before eating so the capsule can dissolve in the stomach

releasing the enzymes.

.

> Now for my question... When I purchased the Nu-Thera, I also

bought a

> trial size of Enzyme-Aid. As we are traveling for a week in July, I

> thought it might be nice to have to counteract any infractions. I

don't

> intend to use it as a supplement, only when I know he's eaten

something

> that may be contaminated. Will it be effective for this? And what

if

> he eats a piece of regular bread, will giving him this help stop the

> reaction and diarrhea that gluten gives him?

>

> Looking forward to some answers...

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for answering my post )

Can I ask you another question? I've noticed that some people have said that

giving Pepsid AC after a gluten infraction is

supposed to help prevent a reaction? Can I do this instead if he gets into some

bread? As I said before, my son doesn't have

severe behaviour issues but I know that when he gets gluten into his system that

he is more in his own little world and he has

problems with controlling his bowel movements and I would rather avoid this

while on vacation.

Looking forward to your reply,

> Hi, hope you vacation goes well.

>

> I have not used EnzymAid but this is what I have heard from others:

> Maybe. LOL.

>

> Several parents have said they saw no reaction with hidden or unknown

> contaminants with EnzymAid. But because they didn't know if there

> actually were any contaminants - they can't say for sure. But in

> those " trace " amounts, it might be fine. As with everything, it will

> depends on the individual and how sensitive they are to the food. It

> seems to work well with GFCF food.

>

> I would be very hesistant about a piece of bread, though, because it

> is not recommended for this (by the manufacturer). I know about 5

> stories from people who said EnzymAid was not effective on an out-

> right gluten/casein food such as a piece of bread, crackers, or

> cookie. Of course, it is up to you. You know your child's tolerances

> best.

>

> Just a caution: Since EnzymAid comes in veggie capsules, you will

> have much better success if you mix the contents with food or liquid

> before eating. If your daughter swallows capsules, allow about 30

> minutes before eating so the capsule can dissolve in the stomach

> releasing the enzymes.

> .

>

> > Now for my question... When I purchased the Nu-Thera, I also

> bought a

> > trial size of Enzyme-Aid. As we are traveling for a week in July, I

> > thought it might be nice to have to counteract any infractions. I

> don't

> > intend to use it as a supplement, only when I know he's eaten

> something

> > that may be contaminated. Will it be effective for this? And what

> if

> > he eats a piece of regular bread, will giving him this help stop the

> > reaction and diarrhea that gluten gives him?

> >

> > Looking forward to some answers...

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

If you run through the archives and check in with some other autism

groups, you'll find a range of ways for dealing with infringements,

some seem to work with this child, others with that one. Some swear

by epsom salt baths or patches, extra doses of transdermal secretin,

creon, serenaid, enzymaid, pancreatin, the new one talks about

(I forget it's spelling - starts with pep), pepcidAC, and certain

antihistamines that cross the blood-brain barrier. (Popular topic on

some lists.) I don't know that anyone can guarantee you that one

method will halt, end or block a reaction for your child, but plenty

of people can offer you their experiences with their children.

N

> Thanks for answering my post )

>

> Can I ask you another question? I've noticed that some people have

said that giving Pepsid AC after a gluten infraction is

> supposed to help prevent a reaction....

[Guest guest]

What I have read is that an occassional infraction can be

successfully curved with Pepcid AC GOLD (only the Gold type) and only

for infrequent occassions. The label says not to use it continuously

for more than 2 weeks. I will try to find the specific site that

tells about this use in autism (it was on one of the major sites).

In the meantime, here is a reply from Devin Houston on how Pepcid AC

helps with gluten/casien ingestion. (from the enzymesandautism board)

In general it blocks digestion, so the casein/gluten is not broken

down to the intermediate offending peptides. Not something you want

to do regularly but once in awhile would be sounds fine. Digestive

enzymes go the opposite direction and break the peptide down

completely. If I were you and really wanted to give bread, I would

use both the EnzymAid and the Pepcid AC Gold. Hope this helps.

.

" I think Pepcid AC and other acid blockers work by decreasing the

amount of acid secreted into the stomach. What this does is prevent

the activation of pepsin (a stomach protease; acid converts inactive

pepsinogen into active pepsin) which then further delays activation

of pancreatic enzymes. Delaying the activation of pepsin prevents

the specific enzyme cleavage of casein that produces casomorphin.

While this helps with the peptide problem, taking Pepcid on a routine

basis really isn't helping digestion. You then have proteins not

being fully digested passing into the gut, which can then ferment and

provide an environment for bacteria to fluorish. " - Devin

> > Hi, hope you vacation goes well.

> >

> > I have not used EnzymAid but this is what I have heard from

others:

> > Maybe. LOL.

> >

> > Several parents have said they saw no reaction with hidden or

unknown

> > contaminants with EnzymAid. But because they didn't know if there

> > actually were any contaminants - they can't say for sure. But in

> > those " trace " amounts, it might be fine. As with everything, it

will

> > depends on the individual and how sensitive they are to the food.

It

> > seems to work well with GFCF food.

> >

> > I would be very hesistant about a piece of bread, though, because

it

> > is not recommended for this (by the manufacturer). I know about 5

> > stories from people who said EnzymAid was not effective on an out-

> > right gluten/casein food such as a piece of bread, crackers, or

> > cookie. Of course, it is up to you. You know your child's

tolerances

> > best.

> >

> > Just a caution: Since EnzymAid comes in veggie capsules, you will

> > have much better success if you mix the contents with food or

liquid

> > before eating. If your daughter swallows capsules, allow about 30

> > minutes before eating so the capsule can dissolve in the stomach

> > releasing the enzymes.

> > .

> >

> > > Now for my question... When I purchased the Nu-Thera, I also

> > bought a

> > > trial size of Enzyme-Aid. As we are traveling for a week in

July, I

> > > thought it might be nice to have to counteract any

infractions. I

> > don't

> > > intend to use it as a supplement, only when I know he's eaten

> > something

> > > that may be contaminated. Will it be effective for this? And

what

> > if

> > > he eats a piece of regular bread, will giving him this help

stop the

> > > reaction and diarrhea that gluten gives him?

> > >

> > > Looking forward to some answers...

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Ok, it is Pepcid AC (I was thinking of Alka-Seltzer Gold) that you

use, and I am still looking for the reference. You know how it is,

you see something a zillion times and then when you need it you can't

find it. Happy vacation.

.

> > > Hi, hope you vacation goes well.

> > >

> > > I have not used EnzymAid but this is what I have heard from

> others:

> > > Maybe. LOL.

> > >

> > > Several parents have said they saw no reaction with hidden or

> unknown

> > > contaminants with EnzymAid. But because they didn't know if

there

> > > actually were any contaminants - they can't say for sure. But

in

> > > those " trace " amounts, it might be fine. As with everything, it

> will

> > > depends on the individual and how sensitive they are to the

food.

> It

> > > seems to work well with GFCF food.

> > >

> > > I would be very hesistant about a piece of bread, though,

because

> it

> > > is not recommended for this (by the manufacturer). I know about

5

> > > stories from people who said EnzymAid was not effective on an

out-

> > > right gluten/casein food such as a piece of bread, crackers, or

> > > cookie. Of course, it is up to you. You know your child's

> tolerances

> > > best.

> > >

> > > Just a caution: Since EnzymAid comes in veggie capsules, you

will

> > > have much better success if you mix the contents with food or

> liquid

> > > before eating. If your daughter swallows capsules, allow about

30

> > > minutes before eating so the capsule can dissolve in the

stomach

> > > releasing the enzymes.

> > > .

> > >

> > > > Now for my question... When I purchased the Nu-Thera, I also

> > > bought a

> > > > trial size of Enzyme-Aid. As we are traveling for a week in

> July, I

> > > > thought it might be nice to have to counteract any

> infractions. I

> > > don't

> > > > intend to use it as a supplement, only when I know he's eaten

> > > something

> > > > that may be contaminated. Will it be effective for this?

And

> what

> > > if

> > > > he eats a piece of regular bread, will giving him this help

> stop the

> > > > reaction and diarrhea that gluten gives him?

> > > >

> > > > Looking forward to some answers...

> > > >

> > > >